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Title: Lager sales face lukewarm future
Post by: Barman on August 10, 2007, 10:49:32 AM
Quote from: BBC Web Site
Lager sales are falling as drinkers choose more sophisticated options, according to market researchers Mintel.
UK lager sales have fallen by 5% since 2005, according to Mintel, and the firm predicts that they will fall by another 8% by 2012.

Source (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/6939944.stm)

I heard this on the radio this morning.

What it doesn?t mention in the article is what the more sophisticated drinks are?

On the radio it said that lager drinkers are changing to more sophisticated drinks ?like cider and rose wine?.  point:
Title: Re: Lager sales face lukewarm future
Post by: TG on August 10, 2007, 10:51:54 AM
Whats wrong with cider?

Are you calling me a drunk?  rubschin:
Title: Re: Lager sales face lukewarm future
Post by: Barman on August 10, 2007, 10:54:56 AM
Whats wrong with cider?

Are you calling me a drunk?  rubschin:
How many have you had today?  rubschin:
Title: Re: Lager sales face lukewarm future
Post by: TG on August 10, 2007, 10:56:59 AM
None yet. Got a 3 litre bottle of white lightening in me desk drawer though.  cloud9:
Title: Re: Lager sales face lukewarm future
Post by: Barman on August 10, 2007, 11:00:16 AM
None yet. Got a 3 litre bottle of white lightening in me desk drawer though.  cloud9:
If they have remained firmly closed until now then no, you are not a drunk.  noooo:

I still don?t think cider and rose can be classed as ?sophisticated? tho?  whistle:
Title: Re: Lager sales face lukewarm future
Post by: Snoopy on August 10, 2007, 11:02:57 AM
Quote from: BBC Web Site
Lager sales are falling as drinkers choose more sophisticated options, according to market researchers Mintel.
UK lager sales have fallen by 5% since 2005, according to Mintel, and the firm predicts that they will fall by another 8% by 2012.

Source (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/6939944.stm)

I heard this on the radio this morning.

What it doesn?t mention in the article is what the more sophisticated drinks are?

On the radio it said that lager drinkers are changing to more sophisticated drinks ?like cider and rose wine?.  point:

It has more to do with people's reluctance to drink in pubs etc because of:
(i) Drink Drive Laws (no complaints about those)
(ii) Fewer and fewer pubs that actually are not over run with children
(iii) Fewer and fewer pubs over all
PLUS
Lager out of a bottle from the offy is no substitute for several pints in a good pub but as more people chose to drink at home then they will naturally gravitate toward "sophisticated" drinks such as wine, spirits etc. Perhaps we will even see the return of the Cocktail Hour.
What is for sure there are fewer pubs now than for many years and with the anti-smoking legislation now biting hard there will be even fewer next year.
Title: Re: Lager sales face lukewarm future
Post by: TG on August 10, 2007, 11:06:08 AM
Well, 'white lightning' is barely drinkable I must admit (despite several attempts).

However, as a long term cider boozer there are some great choices out there if you are prepared to look around and pay a bit more.

Mind you, this latest fashion of pouring cider over ice is an abomination before god and man and all practitioners of this idiocy should be thrown into the scorpion pit.
Title: Re: Lager sales face lukewarm future
Post by: Darwins Selection on August 10, 2007, 11:36:20 AM
. .  pouring cider over ice is an abomination before god and man and all practitioners of this idiocy should be thrown into the scorpion pit.
The pit is already filled with people I have thrown in for doing the same, or using mixers with, good malt whisky.  evil:
Title: Re: Lager sales face lukewarm future
Post by: tel on August 10, 2007, 11:42:05 AM
Where does perry fit in the scale of things?
Title: Re: Lager sales face lukewarm future
Post by: Snoopy on August 10, 2007, 11:46:07 AM
. .  pouring cider over ice is an abomination before god and man and all practitioners of this idiocy should be thrown into the scorpion pit.


The pit is already filled with people I have thrown in for doing the same, or using mixers with, good malt whisky.  evil:

The only things that should ever added to a good malt are a log fire and another measure of malt

As for where does Perry stand ~ Normally in front of Como or Mason.
Title: Re: Lager sales face lukewarm future
Post by: TG on August 10, 2007, 11:49:21 AM
Where does perry fit in the scale of things?

I tried some of that swedish perry they sell in Wetherspoons the other day. Very sweet.

The wife liked it.  eeek:

Title: Re: Lager sales face lukewarm future
Post by: tel on August 10, 2007, 11:52:23 AM
I will have close look at the cider available at the farmers market tomorrow. Haven't drunk any for a while.
Title: Re: Lager sales face lukewarm future
Post by: TG on August 10, 2007, 11:55:09 AM
I will have close look at the cider available at the farmers market tomorrow. Haven't drunk any for a while.

Steer clear of that organic stuff Tel, it dissolves your teeth.
Title: Re: Lager sales face lukewarm future
Post by: tel on August 10, 2007, 12:01:19 PM
It's better than the scrumpy what dissolves the table!

That's the "why don't my legs work anymore stuff". Watched a mate of mine crawl on his hands and knees up a hill after a few pints of that.
Title: Re: Lager sales face lukewarm future
Post by: Darwins Selection on August 10, 2007, 12:19:40 PM
I will have close look at the cider available at the farmers market tomorrow. Haven't drunk any for a while.
In the morning a sore head will you have.
Title: Re: Lager sales face lukewarm future
Post by: tel on August 10, 2007, 12:37:49 PM
I will have close look at the cider available at the farmers market tomorrow. Haven't drunk any for a while.
In the morning a sore head will you have.
At the gym, I shall be.
Title: Re: Lager sales face lukewarm future
Post by: Darwins Selection on August 10, 2007, 01:15:17 PM
I will have close look at the cider available at the farmers market tomorrow. Haven't drunk any for a while.
In the morning a sore head will you have.
At the gym, I shall be.
Sore legs also shall you have.
Title: Re: Lager sales face lukewarm future
Post by: tel on August 10, 2007, 01:25:42 PM
I will have close look at the cider available at the farmers market tomorrow. Haven't drunk any for a while.
In the morning a sore head will you have.
At the gym, I shall be.
Sore legs also shall you have.
From last night, have those already.
Title: Re: Lager sales face lukewarm future
Post by: Bar Wench on August 10, 2007, 02:23:48 PM
I think I might have to put in a law that says only one Yoda thread a month.  ::)
Title: Re: Lager sales face lukewarm future
Post by: Grumpmeister on August 10, 2007, 02:26:02 PM
Overturned your law will be, the force we shall use, Barman help us he well  whistle:
Title: Re: Lager sales face lukewarm future
Post by: Bar Wench on August 10, 2007, 02:26:26 PM
Overturned your law will be, the force we shall use, Barman help us he well  whistle:

You reckon? BarMan does as he is told.  eveilgrin:
Title: Re: Lager sales face lukewarm future
Post by: Grumpmeister on August 10, 2007, 02:28:50 PM
Threads you are looking for these are not  whistle:
Title: Re: Lager sales face lukewarm future
Post by: Barman on August 10, 2007, 02:31:39 PM
Overturned your law will be, the force we shall use, Barman help us he well  whistle:
He bloody won't help!   point:
Title: Re: Lager sales face lukewarm future
Post by: Grumpmeister on August 10, 2007, 02:33:53 PM
Force was mistaken for a change, the trousers barman obviously wears not in this pub  whistle:

Yodaspeak an option to wind wench up no end I see, will remember for future use I will  eveilgrin:
Title: Re: Lager sales face lukewarm future
Post by: tel on August 10, 2007, 02:35:27 PM
I think I might have to put in a law that says only one Yoda thread a month.  ::)

A law? Seems like an invitation to switch to Clouseau-speak razz:
Title: Re: Lager sales face lukewarm future
Post by: Barman on August 10, 2007, 02:36:01 PM
I think I might have to put in a law that says only one Yoda thread a month.  ::)

A law? Seems like an invitation to switch to Clouseau-speak razz:
doh:
Title: Re: Lager sales face lukewarm future
Post by: Snoopy on August 10, 2007, 02:36:36 PM
Force was mistaken for a change, the trousers barman obviously wears not in this pub  whistle:

Yodaspeak an option to wind wench up no end I see, will remember for future use I will  eveilgrin:

Careful with it though GM ~ She has the power of Harry Potter don't forget.
 
Barrus Expelarious spells might be invoked.scared2:
Title: Re: Lager sales face lukewarm future
Post by: Grumpmeister on August 10, 2007, 02:40:59 PM
Smitage from Wenchy I risk but fictional character Harry Potter is.  eveilgrin:
Title: Re: Lager sales face lukewarm future
Post by: Bar Wench on August 10, 2007, 02:43:02 PM
Smitage from Wenchy I risk but fictional character Harry Potter is.  eveilgrin:

I'm not going through this with you again.  ::) Snoopy and I know the truth!
Title: Re: Lager sales face lukewarm future
Post by: Grumpmeister on August 10, 2007, 02:44:06 PM
Yes but believe tellytubbies are real also do you  point:
Title: Re: Lager sales face lukewarm future
Post by: tel on August 10, 2007, 03:51:28 PM
Off for a pint of Youngs, I am  razz:
Title: Re: Lager sales face lukewarm future
Post by: Barman on August 10, 2007, 03:53:20 PM
Off for a pint of Youngs, I am  razz:
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Title: Re: Lager sales face lukewarm future
Post by: Berek on August 10, 2007, 06:13:21 PM
I havent bothered to read any of this thread because as far as i'm concerned Lager is a poofs drink  whistle:
Title: Re: Lager sales face lukewarm future
Post by: Barman on August 11, 2007, 05:49:42 AM
I havent bothered to read any of this thread because as far as i'm concerned Lager is a poofs drink  whistle:
Ah, a schooner of sweet sherry man then?  rubschin:
Title: Re: Lager sales face lukewarm future
Post by: Snoopy on August 11, 2007, 08:54:36 AM
I havent bothered to read any of this thread because as far as i'm concerned Lager is a poofs drink  whistle:
Ah, a schooner of sweet sherry man then?  rubschin:

More likely to be a "small Harvey's Bristol Cream"  whistle:
Title: Re: Lager sales face lukewarm future
Post by: Misunderstood on August 11, 2007, 09:49:06 AM
If I am feeling normal (occasionally so) I take the Scottish malt devoid of contaminants.
If I am feeling sophisticated (been known) I will mix the Scottish malt with a dash of Drambuie.   

Definitely not the more peaty ones though.  confused:
Title: Re: Lager sales face lukewarm future
Post by: Marley's Ghost (Imbiber of Spirits) on August 11, 2007, 01:06:08 PM
If I am feeling normal (occasionally so) I take the Scottish malt devoid of contaminants.
If I am feeling sophisticated (been known) I will mix the Scottish malt with a dash of Drambuie.   

Definitely not the more peaty ones though.  confused:

You know, I never realised you could get different Drambuies! Which are the peaty ones? I'll look out for them and give them a try.
Title: Re: Lager sales face lukewarm future
Post by: Mr Happy on August 11, 2007, 01:51:05 PM
Sophisticated?

There has been an increase in Real Ale sales and the number of pubs partaking, I'm not sure I'd ever call beer sophisticated though (at least not til i grow a beard).

The rise in cider sales and rose are far from sophisticated.  Bulmers and the Irish Ones have convinced people to have a pint of ice with a drop of cider and the idiots have lapped it up.  If you want a drink at slightly above freezing point you may as well have diamond white and save some cash.

Fraid it's the Wetherspoons regulars dictating the trends again.  There has been a shift in the food types people have been eating aswell '2 for ?5.95' being a new favourite...
Title: Re: Lager sales face lukewarm future
Post by: TG on August 11, 2007, 02:20:25 PM
Well the oirish over ice crew are encountering problems.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/6896954.stm

They are fooling themselves by blaming the weather.

The fad for cider over ice has passed, as it should.



Title: Re: Lager sales face lukewarm future
Post by: Misunderstood on August 11, 2007, 03:36:36 PM
If I am feeling normal (occasionally so) I take the Scottish malt devoid of contaminants.
If I am feeling sophisticated (been known) I will mix the Scottish malt with a dash of Drambuie.   

Definitely not the more peaty ones though.  confused:

You know, I never realised you could get different Drambuies! Which are the peaty ones? I'll look out for them and give them a try.

 noooo:  I meant adding Drambuie to different malts  ::)   Same difference really   cloud9:
Title: Re: Lager sales face lukewarm future
Post by: Darwins Selection on August 11, 2007, 09:50:59 PM
If I am feeling sophisticated (been known) I will mix the Scottish malt with a dash of Drambuie.   
Banghead Banghead Banghead Banghead Banghead

A McFatwa have I issued. evil:
Title: Re: Lager sales face lukewarm future
Post by: Marley's Ghost (Imbiber of Spirits) on August 12, 2007, 12:25:44 PM
If I am feeling sophisticated (been known) I will mix the Scottish malt with a dash of Drambuie.   
Banghead Banghead Banghead Banghead Banghead

A McFatwa have I issued. evil:

Why the McFatwa DS? Is it anything to do with the Golden Arches by any chance?

If it's because of the unusual use of Drambuie, it would be well to remember the origins of this golden liqueur - available  here among other places (http://www.rampantscotland.com/know/bldev_knowdrambuie.htm)

Quote from: rampantscotland.com
Drambuie is a golden liqueur based on the finest Scotch malt whisky, sweetened with a hint of heather honey and flavoured with herbs, prepared from a legendary secret recipe.

So, I don't see that you can have an issue as you are adding a malt to a malt albeit with modification.
Title: Re: Lager sales face lukewarm future
Post by: Darwins Selection on August 12, 2007, 07:31:23 PM
If I am feeling sophisticated (been known) I will mix the Scottish malt with a dash of Drambuie.   
Banghead Banghead Banghead Banghead Banghead

A McFatwa have I issued. evil:

Why the McFatwa DS? Is it anything to do with the Golden Arches by any chance?

If it's because of the unusual use of Drambuie, it would be well to remember the origins of this golden liqueur - available  here among other places (http://www.rampantscotland.com/know/bldev_knowdrambuie.htm)

Quote from: rampantscotland.com
Drambuie is a golden liqueur based on the finest Scotch malt whisky, sweetened with a hint of heather honey and flavoured with herbs, prepared from a legendary secret recipe.

So, I don't see that you can have an issue as you are adding a malt to a malt albeit with modification.

Drambuie is an abomination (in my opinion). sick2:

The phrase "based on the finest. . ." tells it all, as in mouldy Cheddar is 'based on' the concept of Stilton.

Still, I am a broad-minded man, each to his own. ;D


Note to self, McFatwa for Marley tomorrow.

Title: Re: Lager sales face lukewarm future
Post by: tel on August 13, 2007, 08:22:46 AM
2 pints of Heart of Hampshire in the fridge. Stayed on the Youngs over the weekend and didn't want to mix it.
Title: Re: Lager sales face lukewarm future
Post by: Darwins Selection on August 13, 2007, 09:43:04 AM
2 pints of Heart of Hampshire in the fridge. Stayed on the Youngs over the weekend and didn't want to mix it.
Not as daft as you look you are. ;)
Title: Re: Lager sales face lukewarm future
Post by: Bar Wench on August 13, 2007, 12:14:02 PM
All alcohol is the devil's work. Especially stuff with bubbles.
Title: Re: Lager sales face lukewarm future
Post by: Snoopy on August 13, 2007, 12:16:34 PM
All alcohol is the devil's work. Especially stuff with bubbles.

That's a hangover talking that is. point:
Title: Re: Lager sales face lukewarm future
Post by: Bar Wench on August 13, 2007, 12:17:48 PM
All alcohol is the devil's work. Especially stuff with bubbles.

That's a hangover talking that is. point:

Two days later?  eeek:
Title: Re: Lager sales face lukewarm future
Post by: Snoopy on August 13, 2007, 12:19:02 PM
All alcohol is the devil's work. Especially stuff with bubbles.

That's a hangover talking that is. point:

Two days later?  eeek:

Good Lord yes ~ I've been known to be saying "Never again" up to a week later.
Title: Re: Lager sales face lukewarm future
Post by: Nick on August 13, 2007, 12:19:44 PM
Maybe it was the Sumo wrestling
Title: Re: Lager sales face lukewarm future
Post by: Bar Wench on August 13, 2007, 12:22:56 PM
Maybe it was the Sumo wrestling

I didn't wrestle, I was in charge of the camera and blowing the whistle.
Title: Re: Lager sales face lukewarm future
Post by: tel on August 13, 2007, 12:34:03 PM
Who's the whistle?  redface:

Exits left, at speed.
Title: Re: Lager sales face lukewarm future
Post by: Bar Wench on August 13, 2007, 12:40:16 PM
 cussing:
Title: Re: Lager sales face lukewarm future
Post by: tel on August 13, 2007, 12:56:50 PM
I've been smitten noooo:
Title: Re: Lager sales face lukewarm future
Post by: Bar Wench on August 13, 2007, 12:58:13 PM
I've been smitten noooo:

Indeed just waiting for another hour to pass.  eveilgrin:
Title: Re: Lager sales face lukewarm future
Post by: tel on August 13, 2007, 01:10:44 PM
I've been smitten noooo:

Indeed just waiting for another hour to pass.  eveilgrin:

Try a brandy and Babycham whilst waiting - very soothing.
Title: Re: Lager sales face lukewarm future
Post by: Grumpmeister on August 13, 2007, 01:12:41 PM
Who's the whistle?  redface:

Exits left, at speed.

Pet name for Mr Wench?  scared:

By the way Wenchy dear, what does a hangover feel like?
Title: Re: Lager sales face lukewarm future
Post by: Nick on August 13, 2007, 01:14:11 PM
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Title: Re: Lager sales face lukewarm future
Post by: Grumpmeister on August 13, 2007, 01:23:36 PM
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