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Come Inside... => The Snug => Topic started by: Miss Creant Commander of the picklement and baking BAb(Hons) on October 02, 2012, 07:20:21 AM
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2012/oct/01/girl-aged-five-missing-mid-wales?newsfeed=true (http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2012/oct/01/girl-aged-five-missing-mid-wales?newsfeed=true)
The abductor will no doubt be among the searchers.
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Ms Zjalic, who knows the missing girl's family, said people had been coming from far and wide to help with the search.
"It's unbelievable - you just don't think that something like that would happen in a small town like Machynlleth.
Why? Shrugs:
These vile crazed mentally deranged oxygen wasting predators are everywhere, and my guess is that it'll be either a relative or one of the neighbours/locals.
Bloody mind bogglingly dreadful what/whoever.
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Has anybody checked her Maths teacher yet?
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Has anybody checked her Maths teacher yet?
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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"I cannot imagine that anyone local is responsible for this," said shop owner Jacqueline Parsons, 53.
"I would be amazed if it turned out to be anyone local. Everyone knows everyone here. You walk down the street and even if you don't know someone's name you speak to them. Everyone is friendly."
Look. I've done many marshalling duties over the last 3 decades down in that neck of the woods, and I tell you, some of the local yokels that you see wandering around the forests in their hoardes do look quite scary and intimidating. scared2:
I'm not saying they're all interbred half formed witted and baked mongulations by any stretch, but they've certainly got more than their fair share in a part of the country where sheep shagging is actually a leisurely past time.
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My quip about the Maths teacher was only half in jest - they are saying she got into a car/van by her own volition. It stands to reason it was someone she knew...
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They've arrested a 46 year ol LOCAL twat on suspicion, just 2 miles outside the town.
No sign of his grey van or the poor little girl so far.
I sincerely hope this isn't going to end up badly and they find her alive and well, albeit traummatised, extremely pronto.
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Well at least we know it can't have been Jimmy Saville rubschin:
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My quip about the Maths teacher was only half in jest - they are saying she got into a car/van by her own volition. It stands to reason it was someone she knew...
Indeed...
No matter how much the meeja like to drum up images of Gary Glitter around every corner, the vast majority of these ghastly crimes are committed by family members or friends of the family... noooo:
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What were a group of toddlers doing out playing at dusk with no supervision anyway?
It makes it all too easy for roaming nutters.
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I am all for not wrapping kids in cotton wool but I agree Darwin it was almost if not dark when these children were out. noooo:
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The longer this goes on, the worse it gets.
I feel so sick and sad for those parents of April.
Unimaginable torture they must be going through.
That creature thay have in custody until tomorrow is more than likely the culprit, but he knows only too well that if he keeps his gob shut, denies everything, and nowt conclusive shows up on cctv footage, that unless they can find a body he'll be walking away scott free. eeek:
Why haven't they got the Army in helping? The terrain 'round there is murderous.
IMO they need sevaral lines of a five thousand to branch out in every all directions to cover every square inch of ground within a 50 mile radius.
Easier said than done, but without finding the poor girls body, they'll never get a conviction I'd have thought.
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I am a bit surprised at all the publicity and naming of the man in custody after all the trouble over the Dando woman suspect and that girl in Bristol who turned out to be murdered by the Dutch bloke not the "wierdo pervert looking" landlord.
If the Welsh suspect gets released then the lynch mob will string him up regardless.
I am not at all comfortable about this trial by media which seems to prevail these days.
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Wot he said
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I am a bit surprised at all the publicity and naming of the man in custody after all the trouble over the Dando woman suspect and that girl in Bristol who turned out to be murdered by the Dutch bloke not the "wierdo pervert looking" landlord.
If the Welsh suspect gets released then the lynch mob will string him up regardless.
I am not at all comfortable about this trial by media which seems to prevail these days.
Indeed, but the rozzers obviously have very and extremely deep suspicions to release the name.
The fact thet he has a lhd Disco. and the girl got in on the o/s is pretty compelling evidence, and who knows what dna tests are about to show up in said car?
Just hope if he is the culprit that they obtain absolute 100% cast iron evidence to nail him firmly.
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Seemed odd to me that they released the picture of the car and its reg number unless they haven't yet found it. rubschin:
I see on the local news they now have permission to hold him until Saturday evening.
The police are also saying that they are trying to establish all his movements from Monday when the child went missing and Tuesday afternoon when they arrested him.
Meanwhile the police are also getting pissed off with all the volunteers who may actually be trampling all over a crime scene that will make a conviction even more difficult. The rozzers must be pretty sure they have the right bloke but evidence may be destroyed in the searching which is neither professional nor systematic. Given the state of the rivers around here I'd have thought a net strung across the estuary might have been a prudent measure even though it is actually a huge marsh (Bird Sanctuary). That is where I would be looking. You could certainly hide a body there and for that matter a car.
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Thought they had the car...... rubschin:
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They have............
Chiefs also issued a picture of Bridger’s distinctive blue left-hand drive Land Rover Discovery — recovered from a Machynlleth repair garage on Tuesday afternoon.
Read more: http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4570670/Tears-clues-a-man-in-custodybut-still-no-April-as-fears-grow-for-the-sick-girl.html#ixzz28Ls4tHfK (http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4570670/Tears-clues-a-man-in-custodybut-still-no-April-as-fears-grow-for-the-sick-girl.html#ixzz28Ls4tHfK)
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They may have but the latest local news has a Top Rozzer saying "Have you seen this car ~ especially between Monday evening and Tuesday afternoon? ..... which is a change from Tuesday morning when they started out saying "Have you seen this car?"
Clearly I should read the Sun ::)
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They may have but the latest local news has a Top Rozzer saying "Have you seen this car ~ especially between Monday evening and Tuesday afternoon? ..... which is a change from Tuesday morning when they started out saying "Have you seen this car?"
Clearly I should read the Sun ::)
It was the 1st on google ........... redface:
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char048
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They have............
Chiefs also issued a picture of Bridger’s distinctive blue left-hand drive Land Rover Discovery — recovered from a Machynlleth repair garage on Tuesday afternoon.
Read more: http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4570670/Tears-clues-a-man-in-custodybut-still-no-April-as-fears-grow-for-the-sick-girl.html#ixzz28Ls4tHfK (http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4570670/Tears-clues-a-man-in-custodybut-still-no-April-as-fears-grow-for-the-sick-girl.html#ixzz28Ls4tHfK)
That worries me a little but, as the original alledged sighting of the vehicle that April got into seemingly willingly, was of a grey van.
The blue disco with it's distinctive side marking looks absolutely nowt like a grey van to me. confused:
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Seemed odd to me that they released the picture of the car and its reg number unless they haven't yet found it. rubschin:
I see on the local news they now have permission to hold him until Saturday evening.
The police are also saying that they are trying to establish all his movements from Monday when the child went missing and Tuesday afternoon when they arrested him.
Meanwhile the police are also getting pissed off with all the volunteers who may actually be trampling all over a crime scene that will make a conviction even more difficult. The rozzers must be pretty sure they have the right bloke but evidence may be destroyed in the searching which is neither professional nor systematic. Given the state of the rivers around here I'd have thought a net strung across the estuary might have been a prudent measure even though it is actually a huge marsh (Bird Sanctuary). That is where I would be looking. You could certainly hide a body there and for that matter a car.
That's a big worry, as they said on the telly that IF whoever commited this crime, killed her and threw her body in there, the state of the river especially at the mo., would have probably swept her body out into the Irish sea by now.
P'raps they thought of that and did it? rubschin:
God I hope they find the little mite, as I don't know about you lot, but I find all this quite harrowing tbqh.
Doesn't bode well after 5 days though.
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The police just charged the bloke with murder..........
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So they have! eeek:
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The police just charged the bloke with murder..........
Link? eeek:
They must have found her body then? eeek:
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On BBBC news they say he's been charged on SUSPICION of murder. confused:
How would this pan uut in court then, as 'suspicion' is surely not hard evidence, or am I missing the point here? Shrugs:
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It mainly means they can keep him in custody for longer.
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It mainly means they can keep him in custody for longer.
But to charge you surely HAVE to have evidence to back it up?
To charge on SUSPICION of MURDER, surely you have to have hard evidence that murder has been commited, but how can that be so without her dead body?
It sounds like a contradictory statement to me.
Obviously we're not privvy as to what the rozzers know, but I find this all very confuslicating tbh. confused:
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Maybe they have found summat in his car
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The police just charged the bloke with murder..........
No they haven't though, just suspicion. Can someone explain this to me before me'ed explodes please? Banghead
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Maybe they have found summat in his car
Like what, 'cus I'm absolutely bolloxed if I can fathom it out? confused:
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Good job PC Growler isn't on the case noooo:
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Good job PC Growler isn't on the case noooo:
True, 'cus I'd have just merdered the twat by now on heresay. evil:
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No. What we need is a nice friendly rozzer in here to explain what this actually means to us mere sheepy plebs. ::)
Have we got one that posts in here though? Shrugs:
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Well there is the ever changing name from the Forest of Dean ....... and Miss C used to be a copper.
I believe that an arrest on suspicion is good enough to go to court and hold onto him as they only have to prove "reasonable grounds to suspect that the accused has committed a murder". That would require that they are able to demonstrate that he was seen to drive off with the missing child or that they have found DNA to show she had been in his car and not seen since.
PACE (Police and Criminal Evidence Acts) does make provision for a person to be arrested and charged if the arresting officer has reason to believe that the accused has committed or may be about to commit a criminal offence .... Or at least it did when I attended the lectures on it, but that was 15 years ago and the law is constantly changing
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Far be it from me to be cynical, but the saturation coverage of this by the BBC may actually be due to the fact that at the Labour Party conference nothing - of any note - was said and it also deflects from the Jimmy Savile scandal they are embroiled in.
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Far be it from me to be cynical, but the saturation coverage of this by the BBC may actually be due to the fact that at the Labour Party conference nothing - of any note - was said and it also deflects from the Jimmy Savile scandal they are embroiled in.
And the widespread abuse of young girls by (mainly) Pakistani Muslim men.
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Far be it from me to be cynical, but the saturation coverage of this by the BBC may actually be due to the fact that at the Labour Party conference nothing - of any note - was said and it also deflects from the Jimmy Savile scandal they are embroiled in.
And the widespread abuse of young girls by (mainly) Pakistani Muslim men.
Jameel fix it?
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Far be it from me to be cynical, but the saturation coverage of this by the BBC may actually be due to the fact that at the Labour Party conference nothing - of any note - was said and it also deflects from the Jimmy Savile scandal they are embroiled in.
And the widespread abuse of young girls by (mainly) Pakistani Muslim men.
Jameel fix it?
drumroll: redface: redface: redface: redface:
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Far be it from me to be cynical, but the saturation coverage of this by the BBC may actually be due to the fact that at the Labour Party conference nothing - of any note - was said and it also deflects from the Jimmy Savile scandal they are embroiled in.
And the widespread abuse of young girls by (mainly) Pakistani Muslim men.
Jameel fix it?
happy001
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Now they have charged him.........
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Now they have charged him.........
Tazer? rubschin: