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Title: Wind farms vs wildlife
Post by: Barman on January 06, 2013, 08:19:04 AM
The shocking environmental cost of renewable energy

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Wind turbines only last for ‘half as long as previously thought’, according to a new study. But even in their short lifespans, those turbines can do a lot of damage. Wind farms are devastating populations of rare birds and bats across the world, driving some to the point of extinction. Most environmentalists just don’t want to know. Because they’re so desperate to believe in renewable energy, they’re in a state of denial. But the evidence suggests that, this century at least, renewables pose a far greater threat to wildlife than climate change.
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Every year in Spain alone — according to research by the conservation group SEO/Birdlife — between 6 and 18 million birds and bats are killed by wind farms. They kill roughly twice as many bats as birds. This breaks down as approximately 110–330 birds per turbine per year and 200–670 bats per year. And these figures may be conservative if you compare them to statistics published in December 2002 by the California Energy Commission: ‘In a summary of avian impacts at wind turbines by Benner et al (1993) bird deaths per turbine per year were as high as 309 in Germany and 895 in Sweden.’

Clicky...  (http://www.spectator.co.uk/features/8807761/wind-farms-vs-wildlife/)

 Shocked:
Title: Re: Wind farms vs wildlife
Post by: GROWLER on January 06, 2013, 11:01:44 AM
Can't say I've ever seen a berd crashing into a turbine tbh.
Are they blind or summat ffs. ::)

Not exactly difficult to see these great big f.off things is it ey? Shrugs:
Title: Re: Wind farms vs wildlife
Post by: Barman on January 06, 2013, 11:06:43 AM
Can't say I've ever seen a berd crashing into a turbine tbh.
Are they blind or summat ffs. ::)

Not exactly difficult to see these great big f.off things is it ey? Shrugs:

here you go...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwVz5hdAMGU

Watch it and weep...
Title: Re: Wind farms vs wildlife
Post by: GROWLER on January 06, 2013, 11:17:46 AM
Can't say I've ever seen a berd crashing into a turbine tbh.
Are they blind or summat ffs. ::)

Not exactly difficult to see these great big f.off things is it ey? Shrugs:

here you go...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwVz5hdAMGU

Watch it and weep...

Yup. Admit that is shit.  cry:
Why was it circling it anyway? rubschin:
Title: Re: Wind farms vs wildlife
Post by: Barman on January 06, 2013, 11:20:07 AM
Can't say I've ever seen a berd crashing into a turbine tbh.
Are they blind or summat ffs. ::)

Not exactly difficult to see these great big f.off things is it ey? Shrugs:

here you go...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwVz5hdAMGU

Watch it and weep...

Yup. Admit that is shit.  cry:
Why was it circling it anyway? rubschin:

Because they tend to be built on the top of ills where the birds find thermals or updraughts...
Title: Re: Wind farms vs wildlife
Post by: Grumpmeister on January 17, 2013, 09:10:39 PM
I know I've probably said this before somewhere but as we are an island nation why the hell hasn't more money been put into tidal power. If we have to have renewable energy surely that makes a hell of a lot more sense.


If I was the cynical sort I'd wonder if the experts were 'friends' with the manufacturers.
Title: Re: Wind farms vs wildlife
Post by: Barman on January 20, 2013, 03:47:28 PM
I know I've probably said this before

AFFS! happy001
Title: Re: Wind farms vs wildlife
Post by: Grumpmeister on September 21, 2014, 04:14:08 PM
From the looks of things thanks to cost cutting and half measures after a couple of years they could be just as dangerous to anyone in the area as they are to the local wildlife.  eeek:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2754679/The-scandal-UKs-death-trap-wind-turbines-A-turbine-built-115mph-winds-felled-50mph-gusts-Dozens-affected-cost-cutting-Why-residents-living-shadow-demanding-answers.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2754679/The-scandal-UKs-death-trap-wind-turbines-A-turbine-built-115mph-winds-felled-50mph-gusts-Dozens-affected-cost-cutting-Why-residents-living-shadow-demanding-answers.html)
Title: Re: Wind farms vs wildlife
Post by: Steve on September 21, 2014, 07:25:01 PM
From the looks of things thanks to cost cutting and half measures after a couple of years they could be just as dangerous to anyone in the area as they are to the local wildlife.  eeek:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2754679/The-scandal-UKs-death-trap-wind-turbines-A-turbine-built-115mph-winds-felled-50mph-gusts-Dozens-affected-cost-cutting-Why-residents-living-shadow-demanding-answers.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2754679/The-scandal-UKs-death-trap-wind-turbines-A-turbine-built-115mph-winds-felled-50mph-gusts-Dozens-affected-cost-cutting-Why-residents-living-shadow-demanding-answers.html)
bloody hell!   eeek:   and also  evil: evil: evil:
Title: Re: Wind farms vs wildlife
Post by: Barman on September 22, 2014, 04:39:53 AM
From the looks of things thanks to cost cutting and half measures after a couple of years they could be just as dangerous to anyone in the area as they are to the local wildlife.  eeek:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2754679/The-scandal-UKs-death-trap-wind-turbines-A-turbine-built-115mph-winds-felled-50mph-gusts-Dozens-affected-cost-cutting-Why-residents-living-shadow-demanding-answers.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2754679/The-scandal-UKs-death-trap-wind-turbines-A-turbine-built-115mph-winds-felled-50mph-gusts-Dozens-affected-cost-cutting-Why-residents-living-shadow-demanding-answers.html)

 noooo: