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Title: Virus's
Post by: GROWLER on April 21, 2013, 08:11:01 PM
Couldn't get on the internet last night. rubschin:

Decided to do a anti malware scan this evening to see if it could find anything that might be causing trouble.
Clasping at straws more than anything else tbh, as I know virtually bog all about these things....believe it or not. Shocked:

It came back with two items anyway:

Adware Zango  HKCV/Microsoft/Internet Explorer/Tool bar

Game Pl.....?HKCV/ Microsoftware?Crossrider..

What are these two items, and could they have actually prevented me from getting on this thing last night?

I've destroyed them now anyway. eveilgrin:
Title: Re: Virus's
Post by: apc2010 on April 21, 2013, 08:12:33 PM
Ask Tel ,......the rest here are not that smart........... noooo:
Title: Re: Virus's
Post by: Pirate on April 21, 2013, 08:13:24 PM
Speak for yerself...like
Title: Re: Virus's
Post by: GROWLER on April 21, 2013, 08:19:46 PM
Ask Tel ,......the rest here are not that smart........... noooo:

He'll answer when he's next in no doubt. :thumbsup:

Only the 2nd time I've had the sweeping thing catch something tbh.
Title: Re: Virus's
Post by: Just One More on April 21, 2013, 08:21:34 PM
My laptop was running slowly last night, so I ran Spybot. It found that Adware thing on mine this morning, I got rid of it and back to normal now  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Virus's
Post by: Steve on April 21, 2013, 08:54:05 PM
Google is usually a good info source on problem programmes

They're prolly just irritant programmes not outright malware
Title: Re: Virus's
Post by: Grumpmeister on April 22, 2013, 03:00:01 AM
Zango is your bog standard piece of adware which will occasionally redirect your browser to websites belonging to whoever has sponsored it. Check your desktop and remove the shortcut that it would have added there as well.

If memory serves me correctly (not a forgone conclusion these days) Crossrider is a framework for developing single code cloud applications across different browsers instead of having to make bespoke code for IE, Chrome etc.  rubschin:
Title: Re: Virus's
Post by: Just One More on April 22, 2013, 05:18:54 AM
Barman was just about to say that  whistle:
Title: Re: Virus's
Post by: Grumpmeister on April 22, 2013, 05:35:03 AM
That's the thing about insomnia, you snooze you lose  lol:
Title: Re: Virus's
Post by: GROWLER on April 22, 2013, 07:59:19 AM
Zango is your bog standard piece of adware which will occasionally redirect your browser to websites belonging to whoever has sponsored it. Check your desktop and remove the shortcut that it would have added there as well.

If memory serves me correctly (not a forgone conclusion these days) Crossrider is a framework for developing single code cloud applications across different browsers instead of having to make bespoke code for IE, Chrome etc.  rubschin:

Removed newly installed Chrome what Stevie lad recommended. rubschin:
Back on Firefox now
Title: Re: Virus's
Post by: Steve on April 22, 2013, 09:51:34 AM
. . .Removed newly installed Chrome what Stevie lad recommended. rubschin:
Back on Firefox now
Why don't you say what you mean? 

Sadly there is no helping some people  Banghead  he posted using Chrome without having any such adware problems

Here's a clue as to why Chrome wasn't your problem:
 
. . .It came back with two items anyway:

Adware Zango  HKCV/Microsoft/Internet Explorer/Tool bar . . .
Title: Re: Virus's
Post by: apc2010 on April 22, 2013, 09:55:07 AM
I did say wait for Tel......... whistle:
Title: Re: Virus's
Post by: GROWLER on April 22, 2013, 09:59:21 AM
. . .Removed newly installed Chrome what Stevie lad recommended. rubschin:
Back on Firefox now
Why don't you say what you mean? 

Sadly there is no helping some people  Banghead  he posted using Chrome without having any such adware problems

Here's a clue as to why Chrome wasn't your problem:
 
. . .It came back with two items anyway:

Adware Zango  HKCV/Microsoft/Internet Explorer/Tool bar . . .

Oh I dunno.

My well documented numptiness on these matters is actually fairly well documented, and i WASN'T blaming you personally you plant pot. ::)
I was merely clasping at straws PRIOR to the anti malware results.

If it can be considered that Google Chrome itself wasn't to blame, then I'll glady re-install it, as I did actually find it quicker and resonably easy to navigate around, so thank you for the recommendation but also, please wind yer neck in! Banghead
Title: Re: Virus's
Post by: Barman on April 22, 2013, 10:05:19 AM
Chrome is for gayers... Gayer:
Title: Re: Virus's
Post by: GROWLER on April 22, 2013, 10:09:07 AM
Chrome is for gayers... Gayer:

How's that werk out then please, exactly like, roughly speaking. rubschin:

What's your chosen browser btw...IF you don't mind telling and sharing such info, tar.
Title: Re: Virus's
Post by: Marley's Ghost (Imbiber of Spirits) on April 22, 2013, 10:10:24 AM
Chrome is for gayers... Gayer:

You're probably still using Mosaic.     whistle:
Title: Re: Virus's
Post by: apc2010 on April 22, 2013, 10:10:46 AM
Chrome is for gayers... Gayer:

How's that werk out then please, exactly like, roughly speaking. rubschin:

What's your chosen browser btw...IF you don't mind telling and sharing such info, tar.

He uses chrome........ :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Virus's
Post by: GROWLER on April 22, 2013, 10:14:21 AM
Chrome is for gayers... Gayer:

How's that werk out then please, exactly like, roughly speaking. rubschin:

What's your chosen browser btw...IF you don't mind telling and sharing such info, tar.

He uses chrome........ :thumbsup:

 point:  Finger:
Title: Re: Virus's
Post by: Barman on April 22, 2013, 10:17:05 AM
Chrome is for gayers... Gayer:

How's that werk out then please, exactly like, roughly speaking. rubschin:

What's your chosen browser btw...IF you don't mind telling and sharing such info, tar.

Real men use FireFox like....  Thumbs:
Title: Re: Virus's
Post by: GROWLER on April 22, 2013, 10:26:39 AM
Chrome is for gayers... Gayer:

How's that werk out then please, exactly like, roughly speaking. rubschin:

What's your chosen browser btw...IF you don't mind telling and sharing such info, tar.

Real men use FireFox like....  Thumbs:

You still haven't answered me question like. rubschin:

I'm currently on Firefox again btw. whistle:
Title: Re: Virus's
Post by: Steve on April 22, 2013, 10:33:03 AM
. .Real men use FireFox like....  Thumbs:
PC tinkerers use Firefox as there are billions of almost debugged free add ons you can play with

Firefox and iExplorer users have to keep restarting their browsers as both have memory leak issues with sites developed for Chrome - like Google sites

Firefox and Chrome users have to keep refreshing pages as neither supports the auto update if newer feature only iExplorer seems to have.

But since SMF doesn't update the time code that often that's no loss unless you visit the beeb or PHP sites like  *koff* frequently

So I use Chrome

Title: Re: Virus's
Post by: GROWLER on April 22, 2013, 10:38:45 AM
. .Real men use FireFox like....  Thumbs:
PC tinkerers use Firefox as there are billions of almost debugged free add ons you can play with

Firefox and iExplorer users have to keep restarting their browsers as both have memory leak issues with sites developed for Chrome - like Google sites

Firefox and Chrome users have to keep refreshing pages as neither supports the auto update if newer feature only iExplorer seems to have.

But since SMF doesn't update the time code that often that's no loss unless you visit the beeb or PHP sites like  *koff* frequently

So I use Chrome

I shall re-install it later. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Virus's
Post by: Steve on April 22, 2013, 10:47:24 AM
TBH I suggest stick with FF until it lets you down.  There is no perfect browser
Title: Re: Virus's
Post by: Grumpmeister on April 22, 2013, 04:26:31 PM
Chrome is for gayers... Gayer:

It looks like advanced age is affecting your memory BM, I refer you to an older post of yours...

Working my way through Google Play for stuff to put on it now.  Thumbs:

#1 Chrome  Thumbs:

Best browser - especially for the pub like....

http://www.virtual-pub.com/SMF/index.php?topic=9172.135 (http://www.virtual-pub.com/SMF/index.php?topic=9172.135)

 point:
Title: Re: Virus's
Post by: apc2010 on April 22, 2013, 04:28:34 PM
Chrome is for gayers... Gayer:

It looks like advanced age is affecting your memory BM, I refer you to an older post of yours...

Working my way through Google Play for stuff to put on it now.  Thumbs:

#1 Chrome  Thumbs:

Best browser - especially for the pub like....

http://www.virtual-pub.com/SMF/index.php?topic=9172.135 (http://www.virtual-pub.com/SMF/index.php?topic=9172.135)

 point:

He didn't say he was NOT using it...... whistle:
Title: Re: Virus's
Post by: tel on April 22, 2013, 05:01:42 PM
Try installing AVG 2013 free - integrates with browsers and provides a little bit more protection.

FF is becoming bloated, latest release is quite odd at times, now refuses to have to do with my my webmail (normally use Outlook but sometimes use a machine that is not configured for it).

Chrome is ok, but Google is now integrating so many of its services into one package that you have to be careful if you start to use anything other than the browser bit.
Title: Re: Virus's
Post by: GROWLER on April 22, 2013, 05:05:08 PM
Try installing AVG 2013 free - integrates with browsers and provides a little bit more protection.

FF is becoming bloated, latest release is quite odd at times, now refuses to have to do with my my webmail (normally use Outlook but sometimes use a machine that is not configured for it).

Chrome is ok, but Google is now integrating so many of its services into one package that you have to be careful if you start to use anything other than the browser bit.

So. In GROWLER language, was it 'Chrome' that goosed me intermong connection on Saturday evening?  Shrugs:
Title: Re: Virus's
Post by: Nick on April 22, 2013, 05:20:03 PM
More likely your paws
Title: Re: Virus's
Post by: tel on April 22, 2013, 05:20:20 PM
Try installing AVG 2013 free - integrates with browsers and provides a little bit more protection.

FF is becoming bloated, latest release is quite odd at times, now refuses to have to do with my my webmail (normally use Outlook but sometimes use a machine that is not configured for it).

Chrome is ok, but Google is now integrating so many of its services into one package that you have to be careful if you start to use anything other than the browser bit.

So. In GROWLER language, was it 'Chrome' that goosed me intermong connection on Saturday evening?  Shrugs:

No.

Nasties usually picked up from iffy web-sites or ones with poor security - ie nasties get hidden inside adverts etc - just rolling the cursor over them can cause an infection unless you have enough security - doesn't matter what browser you are using really.

Android devices are the up and coming targets for nasties.
Title: Re: Virus's
Post by: GROWLER on April 22, 2013, 05:24:51 PM
Were those things that the anti malware scan picked up (as mentioned above) really nasty nasties then that would have me prevented me from getting a connection?


Nick. evil:

SHUT TF UP! angry041:
Title: Re: Virus's
Post by: tel on April 22, 2013, 05:34:19 PM
Were those things that the anti malware scan picked up (as mentioned above) really nasty nasties then that would have me prevented me from getting a connection?


Nick. evil:

SHUT TF UP! angry041:

Possibly/probably.

The nasties werk at different levels and some don't werk at all cos they were firkled together from on-line toolkits and the person didn't know what they doing.

They may -

disable ant-virus software and/or updates
prevent you visiting anti-virus sites to get new software or updates
point you at sites other than your usual search ones
display loads of pop-up ads and warnings
invite more nasties in, which in turn will invite more nasties

Worst infection I've cleared, was over 500 different nasties all started by one - they were a mixture of dangerous ones and just plain stupid ones, had to use 3 different bits of software and about 18 hours scanning.
Title: Re: Virus's
Post by: Nick on April 22, 2013, 05:37:17 PM
Mud in the keyboard more like or MM using his pooter
Title: Re: Virus's
Post by: apc2010 on April 22, 2013, 05:38:05 PM
Were those things that the anti malware scan picked up (as mentioned above) really nasty nasties then that would have me prevented me from getting a connection?


Nick. evil:

SHUT TF UP! angry041:

Possibly/probably.

The nasties werk at different levels and some don't werk at all cos they were firkled together from on-line toolkits and the person didn't know what they doing.

They may -

disable ant-virus software and/or updates
prevent you visiting anti-virus sites to get new software or updates
point you at sites other than your usual search ones
display loads of pop-up ads and warnings
invite more nasties in, which in turn will invite more nasties

Worst infection I've cleared, was over 500 different nasties all started by one - they were a mixture of dangerous ones and just plain stupid ones, had to use 3 different bits of software and about 18 hours scanning.

 eeek:
Title: Re: Virus's
Post by: tel on April 22, 2013, 05:46:45 PM
Were those things that the anti malware scan picked up (as mentioned above) really nasty nasties then that would have me prevented me from getting a connection?


Nick. evil:

SHUT TF UP! angry041:

Possibly/probably.

The nasties werk at different levels and some don't werk at all cos they were firkled together from on-line toolkits and the person didn't know what they doing.

They may -

disable ant-virus software and/or updates
prevent you visiting anti-virus sites to get new software or updates
point you at sites other than your usual search ones
display loads of pop-up ads and warnings
invite more nasties in, which in turn will invite more nasties

Worst infection I've cleared, was over 500 different nasties all started by one - they were a mixture of dangerous ones and just plain stupid ones, had to use 3 different bits of software and about 18 hours scanning.

 eeek:

There's always the devious ones that also place a copy in your restore points just for good measure or alter the registry to re-load themselves with a random name after a re-boot everytime you think you've cleared them.
It's quite challenging at times.
Title: Re: Virus's
Post by: GROWLER on April 22, 2013, 05:52:30 PM
Thanks tel.

I don't profess to completely understand, but you make things a bit clearer. :thumbsup:

I murderd the nasties btw. eveilgrin:


Nick. evil:

PLEASE go and boil your'ed...preferably in the microwave. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Virus's
Post by: apc2010 on April 22, 2013, 05:54:11 PM
Thanks tel.

I don't profess to completely understand, but you make things a bit clearer. :thumbsup:

I murderd the nasties btw. eveilgrin:


Nick. evil:

PLEASE go and boil your'ed...preferably in the microwave. :thumbsup:

I told you so ..... whistle:
Title: Re: Virus's
Post by: GROWLER on April 22, 2013, 05:55:59 PM
Thanks tel.

I don't profess to completely understand, but you make things a bit clearer. :thumbsup:

I murderd the nasties btw. eveilgrin:


Nick. evil:

PLEASE go and boil your'ed...preferably in the microwave. :thumbsup:

I told you so ..... whistle:

Oh, well massive thanks to YOU too then apes 'ed. whistle:
Title: Re: Virus's
Post by: apc2010 on April 22, 2013, 05:57:57 PM
Thanks tel.

I don't profess to completely understand, but you make things a bit clearer. :thumbsup:

I murderd the nasties btw. eveilgrin:


Nick. evil:

PLEASE go and boil your'ed...preferably in the microwave. :thumbsup:

I told you so ..... whistle:

Oh, well massive thanks to YOU too then apes 'ed. whistle:

Well I am honest .........I know feck all about feck all ........ :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Virus's
Post by: Barman on April 23, 2013, 04:53:27 AM
Chrome is for gayers... Gayer:

It looks like advanced age is affecting your memory BM, I refer you to an older post of yours...

Working my way through Google Play for stuff to put on it now.  Thumbs:

#1 Chrome  Thumbs:

Best browser - especially for the pub like....

http://www.virtual-pub.com/SMF/index.php?topic=9172.135 (http://www.virtual-pub.com/SMF/index.php?topic=9172.135)

 point:

 redface: