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Come Inside... => The Commons => Topic started by: Nick on April 02, 2014, 05:21:03 PM
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Popcorn: Popcorn: Popcorn:
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It will be a blood-bath. Nigel will destroy him. But the majority of the papers (and the BBC) will call it a draw and then focus on the minor "victories" Nick Smegg might have.
Will the audience actually be impartial and not left-wing rent-a-mob?
No, thought not... (just to annoy BM)
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It will be a blood-bath. Nigel will destroy him. But the majority of the papers (and the BBC) will call it a draw and then focus on the minor "victories" Nick Smegg might have.
Will the audience actually be impartial and not left-wing rent-a-mob?
No, thought not... (just to annoy BM)
evil:
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It will be a blood-bath. Nigel will destroy him. But the majority of the papers (and the BBC) will call it a draw and then focus on the minor "victories" Nick Smegg might have.
Will the audience actually be impartial and not left-wing rent-a-mob?
No, thought not... (just to annoy BM)
Will post the daily fail report tomorrow........ whistle:
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Wot was wrong with my thread ........ evil:
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Shrugs: Shrugs:
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Shrugs: Shrugs:
You posted on it....... cussing:
http://www.virtual-pub.com/SMF/index.php?topic=12428.msg509654#new (http://www.virtual-pub.com/SMF/index.php?topic=12428.msg509654#new)
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Oh well. Get sewing................
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Oh well. Get sewing................
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Oh well. Get sewing................
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This is the commons......... cussing:
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Billy no-mates Britain happy001
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I don't agree with Nick noooo:
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He is really a lightweight noooo:
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He is really a lightweight noooo:
Which one?
I'm watching on the live text feed http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-26729567 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-26729567) and seems the fibometer is starting to get overheated
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I don't agree with Nick noooo:
Same old rhetoric time after time.... noooo:
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He is really a lightweight noooo:
Which one?
I'm watching on the live text feed http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-26729567 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-26729567) and seems the fibometer is starting to get overheated
I'm watching live on BBC2....
the Cleggmeister is washed out.... noooo:
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He is really a lightweight noooo:
Which one?
I'm watching on the live text feed http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-26729567 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-26729567) and seems the fibometer is starting to get overheated
I'm watching live on BBC2....
the Cleggmeister is washed out.... noooo:
BBC news....
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7% has bitten Clegg on the arse! lol:
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The audience is with Nigel too.... ;D
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Nigel wins on a knockout :thumbsup:
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Nigel wins on a knockout :thumbsup:
Deffo......
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Nigel wins on a knockout :thumbsup:
Deffo......
+2 Thumbs:
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LBC listeners poll gives Farage 86.4% Van Clegg 14.4%
;D
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Watching the News 24 analysis and it looks like Danny Alexander would have been far better at this debate than Nick lol:
Yougov results just came in 68% for Nigel and 27% for Nick :thumbsup:
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It gets worserer for the boy Clegg on LBC.... noooo:
Poll: Farage v Clegg
Who Won The Second Debate On Europe
90.2% Nigel Farage
9.8% Nick Clegg
Thanks for your vote
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Clegg misses open goals, Farage sells dreams with tales of nightmares.
I don't there's much doubt now who's the best debater
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Clegg misses open goals, Farage sells dreams with tales of nightmares.
I don't there's much doubt now who's the best debater
Clegg was terrible.... he just came out with the same tired old rhetoric that everybody can see through now....
...he was completely bolloxed with his stupid 7% claim which has been widely disproved.... THAT was an open goal for Farage and he scored a HUGE volley with it.... as he did with the 'small print' claim on the referendum leaflet.....
The only positive thing you can say about the Clegg is that he did at least have the bottle to stand up and debate with Nigel... Still.... he has prolly secured himself a multi-million €uro position in the EU - why should he care about the UK at all...?
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That 7% idiocy lost Clegg the high ground that WAS his main weapon. Apparently it is true in a narrow context but the high ground isn't about using narrow truths as wide facts.
He could have screwed Farage on his continual use of wrong figures but after that he couldn't. Farage appeals to the emotional argument that we can again be that Great Britain our grandparents talked of. Those that buy that don't care about his wild arsed guesses positioned as 'facts'.
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That 7% idiocy lost Clegg the high ground that WAS his main weapon. Apparently it is true in a narrow context but the high ground isn't about using narrow truths as wide facts.
He could have screwed Farage on his continual use of wrong figures but after that he couldn't. Farage appeals to the emotional argument that we can again be that Great Britain our grandparents talked of. Those that buy that don't care about his wild arsed guesses positioned as 'facts'.
But Clegg "continual(ly) use(s) of wrong figures" like his 7%.... and his 3 (or 4 tonight) million jobs that would be lost if the UK left the EU.... he can't now say that 7% was true "in a narrow context".... he should have said that last week....
You can't have it both ways... you can't call Farage a liar for his 75% laws claim when he is clearly closer to the truth than Clegg's 7%... and you can't ignore the fact that 3M jobs simply wouldn't be lost if the UK left the EU....
Farage won and (amazingly) the BBC picked audience were behind him.... and I thought David Dimbleby realised the ship was sinking too....
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Where did I say I wanted it both ways?
You seem to use opinions as if they are 'facts' they're not
I call Farage a liar because he clearly is. A liar isn't a comparitive term it's an absolute for someone who utters a falsehood knowing it to be false.
And come on it's not like he hasn't been told is it. "485 million" (FFS there's not 450 million in the rest of the EU), "29 million" when the census figures say 27.5 and declining and no way they are all able, £55M a day when the truth is £17 to £24M depending on how you look at import duties and "75% of laws" based on a wild arsed guesstimate from Germany in 2005 when no one has been able to find more than 50% in any sub category of laws.
But as I said UKIP is more about an emotional argument, their supporters don't care about the details but hope big emotional numbers will win the middle ground. Well we'll see what the middle ground really thinks in about 370 days time.
I remain both an EU and UKIP sceptic
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Where did I say I wanted it both ways?
You seem to use opinions as if they are 'facts' they're not
I call Farage a liar because he clearly is. A liar isn't a comparitive term it's an absolute for someone who utters a falsehood knowing it to be false.
And come on it's not like he hasn't been told is it. "485 million" (FFS there's not 450 million in the rest of the EU), "29 million" when the census figures say 27.5 and declining and no way they are all able, £55M a day when the truth is £17 to £24M depending on how you look at import duties and "75% of laws" based on a wild arsed guesstimate from Germany in 2005 when no one has been able to find more than 50% in any sub category of laws.
But as I said UKIP is more about an emotional argument, their supporters don't care about the details but hope big emotional numbers will win the middle ground. Well we'll see what the middle ground really thinks in about 370 days time.
I remain both an EU and UKIP sceptic
You do want it both ways Steve... lol:
Farage is a liar if the facts are slightly out (less than 10%) yet you defend 7% because "it is true in a narrow context" when the actual figure - the absolute figure that he was claiming - could be ten times higher! noooo:
Anyway, you can be as sceptical as you like - Clegg wanted a debate on Europe and the polls show that Nigel won the debate fair and square - and by a vast margin. happ096
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Where did I say I wanted it both ways?
You seem to use opinions as if they are 'facts' they're not
I call Farage a liar because he clearly is. A liar isn't a comparitive term it's an absolute for someone who utters a falsehood knowing it to be false.
And come on it's not like he hasn't been told is it. "485 million" (FFS there's not 450 million in the rest of the EU), "29 million" when the census figures say 27.5 and declining and no way they are all able, £55M a day when the truth is £17 to £24M depending on how you look at import duties and "75% of laws" based on a wild arsed guesstimate from Germany in 2005 when no one has been able to find more than 50% in any sub category of laws.
But as I said UKIP is more about an emotional argument, their supporters don't care about the details but hope big emotional numbers will win the middle ground. Well we'll see what the middle ground really thinks in about 370 days time.
I remain both an EU and UKIP sceptic
You do want it both ways Steve... lol:
Farage is a liar if the facts are slightly out (less than 10%) yet you defend 7% because "it is true in a narrow context" when the actual figure - the absolute figure that he was claiming - could be ten times higher! noooo:
Anyway, you can be as sceptical as you like - Clegg wanted a debate on Europe and the polls show that Nigel won the debate fair and square - and by a vast margin. happ096
No doubt that Farage was the big winner on both nights.
But how can I want it "both ways" if I describe Clegg's 7% as "a stupid and wrong thing to do" (http://www.virtual-pub.com/SMF/index.php?topic=12428.msg508652;topicseen#msg508652)
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Where did I say I wanted it both ways?
You seem to use opinions as if they are 'facts' they're not
I call Farage a liar because he clearly is. A liar isn't a comparitive term it's an absolute for someone who utters a falsehood knowing it to be false.
And come on it's not like he hasn't been told is it. "485 million" (FFS there's not 450 million in the rest of the EU), "29 million" when the census figures say 27.5 and declining and no way they are all able, £55M a day when the truth is £17 to £24M depending on how you look at import duties and "75% of laws" based on a wild arsed guesstimate from Germany in 2005 when no one has been able to find more than 50% in any sub category of laws.
But as I said UKIP is more about an emotional argument, their supporters don't care about the details but hope big emotional numbers will win the middle ground. Well we'll see what the middle ground really thinks in about 370 days time.
I remain both an EU and UKIP sceptic
You do want it both ways Steve... lol:
Farage is a liar if the facts are slightly out (less than 10%) yet you defend 7% because "it is true in a narrow context" when the actual figure - the absolute figure that he was claiming - could be ten times higher! noooo:
Anyway, you can be as sceptical as you like - Clegg wanted a debate on Europe and the polls show that Nigel won the debate fair and square - and by a vast margin. happ096
No doubt that Farage was the big winner on both nights.
But how can I want it "both ways" if I describe Clegg's 7% as "a stupid and wrong thing to do" (http://www.virtual-pub.com/SMF/index.php?topic=12428.msg508652;topicseen#msg508652)
boxing
Leave it aht you two, it aint werf it.
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Where did I say I wanted it both ways?
You seem to use opinions as if they are 'facts' they're not
I call Farage a liar because he clearly is. A liar isn't a comparitive term it's an absolute for someone who utters a falsehood knowing it to be false.
And come on it's not like he hasn't been told is it. "485 million" (FFS there's not 450 million in the rest of the EU), "29 million" when the census figures say 27.5 and declining and no way they are all able, £55M a day when the truth is £17 to £24M depending on how you look at import duties and "75% of laws" based on a wild arsed guesstimate from Germany in 2005 when no one has been able to find more than 50% in any sub category of laws.
But as I said UKIP is more about an emotional argument, their supporters don't care about the details but hope big emotional numbers will win the middle ground. Well we'll see what the middle ground really thinks in about 370 days time.
I remain both an EU and UKIP sceptic
You do want it both ways Steve... lol:
Farage is a liar if the facts are slightly out (less than 10%) yet you defend 7% because "it is true in a narrow context" when the actual figure - the absolute figure that he was claiming - could be ten times higher! noooo:
Anyway, you can be as sceptical as you like - Clegg wanted a debate on Europe and the polls show that Nigel won the debate fair and square - and by a vast margin. happ096
No doubt that Farage was the big winner on both nights.
But how can I want it "both ways" if I describe Clegg's 7% as "a stupid and wrong thing to do" (http://www.virtual-pub.com/SMF/index.php?topic=12428.msg508652;topicseen#msg508652)
boxing
Leave it aht you two, it aint werf it.
lol: lol: lol:
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Where did I say I wanted it both ways?
You seem to use opinions as if they are 'facts' they're not
I call Farage a liar because he clearly is. A liar isn't a comparitive term it's an absolute for someone who utters a falsehood knowing it to be false.
And come on it's not like he hasn't been told is it. "485 million" (FFS there's not 450 million in the rest of the EU), "29 million" when the census figures say 27.5 and declining and no way they are all able, £55M a day when the truth is £17 to £24M depending on how you look at import duties and "75% of laws" based on a wild arsed guesstimate from Germany in 2005 when no one has been able to find more than 50% in any sub category of laws.
But as I said UKIP is more about an emotional argument, their supporters don't care about the details but hope big emotional numbers will win the middle ground. Well we'll see what the middle ground really thinks in about 370 days time.
I remain both an EU and UKIP sceptic
You do want it both ways Steve... lol:
Farage is a liar if the facts are slightly out (less than 10%) yet you defend 7% because "it is true in a narrow context" when the actual figure - the absolute figure that he was claiming - could be ten times higher! noooo:
Anyway, you can be as sceptical as you like - Clegg wanted a debate on Europe and the polls show that Nigel won the debate fair and square - and by a vast margin. happ096
No doubt that Farage was the big winner on both nights.
But how can I want it "both ways" if I describe Clegg's 7% as "a stupid and wrong thing to do" (http://www.virtual-pub.com/SMF/index.php?topic=12428.msg508652;topicseen#msg508652)
boxing
Leave it aht you two, it aint werf it.
lol: lol: lol:
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And just when it was going to get all (https://www.virtual-pub.com/SMF/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.pic4ever.com%2Fimages%2F5.gif&hash=90e58f16d90fd3c23e8954df650eb36996520e9e)
Wise words Darwin worthy:
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Waiting for yougov results on BM V Steve......... rubschin:
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Waiting for yougov results on BM V Steve......... rubschin:
happy001
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YouGov results just in:
91% Could not give a flying fuck
4% If Steve buys a round then he won
4% If BM buys a round then he won
1% Too pissed to reply
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Hurrah for the apathetic!
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Back in serious mode, I bet Call-me-Dave wasn't upset to see Millipede's position beaten up by on the nights winner Farage. Interestingly this morning CMD could still dismiss both debaters as extremists (ie read as nutters)
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