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Come Inside... => The Snug => Topic started by: Snoopy on August 25, 2007, 07:22:57 AM
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Monday Bank Holiday ~ So it will rain
Tuesday Buildings Inspector due to check new oil storage tank and boiler have been correctly installed. Workmen who installed same coming to "make good" walls etc but not until Blds Insp has OK'd their work so far.
Wednesday Installation of new kitchen units including extractor (hole to be drilled in wall)
Thursday Man coming to repair chimney stack, insert air-bricks where needed (dining room, bedroom above)
Friday Man coming to install four new radiators in bedrooms and Chimney Man returning to finish off
Mrs and puppies are going to visit her mother on Friday to keep "out of the way" (???)
Saturday/Sunday cleaning house from all the "workman's mess"
Monday Inset day so puppies do not return to training establishment until Tuesday. Thus Monday promises to be frantic day of finding satchels, shoes etc that have been moved around the house whilst builders go from room to room.
Tuesday RELAX!
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Rather you than me. methinks. noooo:
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Poor you... happy100
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Poor you... happy100
Yeeeeessss! I expect to end the week very much poorer. confused:
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Sunday: F1 then cut grass whist it is still dry ;) Weather forecast says good till at least Tuesday. smile:
Monday: BH... Local walk group have decide in their wisdom to go across the local Transporter Bridge (on the gondola, http://www.du.edu/~jcalvert/tech/transport.htm I am not walking over it, scared2: for anybody!!!) Then once or twice around the park at the other side then back over the bridge.
Two problems, it is the Bridge http://www.fontb.org.uk/ OPEN DAY and they only have 6 car parking places. doh:
It is also the local Carnival and all roads will be blocked off by the time we want to come back. whacky115
Tuesday: will be fully occupied with various hospital and vampire appointments, if there is any free time an elderly neighbour who is moving on Wednesday want me to take her to the new (extra care sheltered flat) place and whist I do that move a pile of boxes and bags (Whey when they are not fitting the carpets until Wednesday morning???) This will all end in tears.
Wednesday: Local food co-op day, as long as they deliver the orders I fax into them sometime this weekend.
Possible free time in the afternoon, as neighbour above has already pointed out.
Thursday: (free so far) I guess the local community office will find me something to do, I have printed out all the menus and place cards for the Gala Evening on Friday but I know they have at least 5 amendments so I will be there for part of the day and when I go in they always find work for me.
Friday: last minute panic for the Gala Evening tonight, something will go wrong.
Saturday: I fear it is Granddaughters sleepover day. Local park - feeding swans - trying to wear them out. Ha!
Sunday: take the gremlins to their nature watch at a local marsh.
And breathe. cloud9:
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http://www.du.edu/~jcalvert/tech/transport.htm
How far is that from Tonypandy?
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http://www.du.edu/~jcalvert/tech/transport.htm
How far is that from Tonypandy?
About 30 miles or so. Go to Newport, Gwent and follow signs (or the River Usk).
BTW Don't you own a map?
Try: http://www.theaa.com/travelwatch/planner_main.jsp
Of course ~ I've just realised ~ Tail Gunners always face the back so you have no idea where you are going ~ EVER!
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"Of course ~ I've just realised ~ Tail Gunners always face the back so you have no idea where you are going ~ EVER!"
Your point being?
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"Of course ~ I've just realised ~ Tail Gunners always face the back so you have no idea where you are going ~ EVER!"
Your point being?
Well?
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http://www.du.edu/~jcalvert/tech/transport.htm
How far is that from Tonypandy?
27.7 miles
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Cheers. Thats all I needed to know. lol:
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"Of course ~ I've just realised ~ Tail Gunners always face the back so you have no idea where you are going ~ EVER!"
Your point being?
Well?
So you don't need a map! point:
You always ask the pilot.
AND I told you how far, which way and where to get an accurate route ~ but Thank the Cat why not ~ bloody felines always stick together .....mutter, mutter, mumble in a discontented hound like fashion
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"Of course ~ I've just realised ~ Tail Gunners always face the back so you have no idea where you are going ~ EVER!"
Your point being?
Well?
So you don't need a map! point:
You always ask the pilot.
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"Of course ~ I've just realised ~ Tail Gunners always face the back so you have no idea where you are going ~ EVER!"
Your point being?
Well?
So you don't need a map! point:
You always ask the pilot.
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Pilot faces front = knows where he is going
Tail Gunner faces back = knows where he has been
Gorrit? Banghead
I wish I'd never started this thread
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"Of course ~ I've just realised ~ Tail Gunners always face the back so you have no idea where you are going ~ EVER!"
Your point being?
Well?
So you don't need a map! point:
You always ask the pilot.
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Pilot faces front = knows where he is going
Tail Gunner faces back = knows where he has been
Gorrit? Banghead
I wish I'd never started this thread
All I asked was how far it was from Tonypandy!
I wish you hadnt started this thread either!
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14.9 miles to Here:
St Fagans Castle.
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A walk around Wales ? from Celtic times to the present day.
St Fagans is one of Europe's foremost open?air museums and Wales's most popular heritage attraction. It stands in the grounds of the magnificent St Fagans Castle, a late 16th-century manor house donated to the people of Wales by the Earl of Plymouth. During the last fifty years, over forty original buildings from different historical periods have been re-erected in the 100-acre parkland.
The re-erected buildings include houses, a farm, a school, a chapel and a splendid Workmen's Institute. There are also workshops where craftsmen still demonstrate their traditional skills. Their produce is usually on sale.
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Native breeds of livestock can be seen in the fields and farmyards, and demonstrations of farming tasks take place daily. Visitors gain an insight into the rich heritage and culture of Wales, and the Welsh language can be heard in daily use amongst craftsmen and interpreters.
There are also galleries with exhibitions of costume, daily life and farming implements. Special exhibitions are also held regularly. Throughout the year, St Fagans comes to life ? literally ? as traditional festivals, music and dance events are celebrated.
Gwalia Stores - 1920s grocery & ironmongery
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Rhyd-y-Car Iron Workers Terrace
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Opening times:
10 am?5 pm daily
Open Bank Holiday Mondays.
St Fagans: National History Museum
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Tel +44 (0)29 20573500
Cottages
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TG ~ When are you going to Tonypandy? Is it a holiday?
Oh and Tonypandy is 169.36 miles from my house.
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TG ~ When are you going to Tonypandy? Is it a holiday?
Oh and Tonypandy is 169.36 miles from my house.
Next weekend. A holiday.
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Ah! Hope the weather holds for you. The Brecon Beacons are spectacular at this time of the year and are just up the road. I spent many happy summer weekends, in my youth, camping and walking up on the Beacons though I confess Tonypandy never impressed me.
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'spectacular' will do for me.
I need to walk somewhere else than here.
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I got dragged to see The Simpsons film this afternoon. ?20 (including drinks and stuff) and utter rubbish. I know a film is bad when I look at my watch and notice we have only been in the cinema for 10 minutes. evil:
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It is sort of back on topic.
OK?
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It is sort of back on topic.
OK?
If you say so.
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I've jumped the gun a bit and done one of the new cupboards this afternoon whilst family were out looking (unsuccessfully) for ripe blackberries. Well the carcass is put together and is in place, only doors and fittings to do tomorrow. At this rate my week may end early ~ but I doubt that it will be that easy censored:
You will gather that t'lad is walking again ~ albeit with a cut out plimsole on one foot.
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Wos goin on ere?
It seems to be a bit of a haphazard thread rubschin:
I gotta ask...
Why Tonypandy? confused:
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Wos goin on ere?
It seems to be a bit of a haphazard thread rubschin:
I gotta ask...
Why Tonypandy? confused:
Ah ~ None of us except TG can understand "Why Tonypandy?"
As for the thread in general maybe this will help:
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Then again ~ Maybe it won't.
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I got dragged to see The Simpsons film this afternoon. ?20 (including drinks and stuff) and utter rubbish. I know a film is bad when I look at my watch and notice we have only been in the cinema for 10 minutes. evil:
Utter shite and drivel....the simpletons that is.
How does a man of your alledged intelligence get talked into all this crap ey?
I'm really beginning to believe you ARE a mouse that cannot say no.
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It was The Boy who took me! evil:
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It was The Boy who took me! evil:
So HE'S the boss now? When's Mrs Nicks' turn then? rubschin:
Oh, that'll be tomorrow when she fetches you the washing basket no doubt....or the Hoover...or the Iron....or the lawn mower.
Have you fixed that bloody machine yet by the way? lol:
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Anyway, I've just been informed that Mrs and Miss Growlers' are going to Bristol to visit her brother and sprogs next friday. happy088
There IS a god after all. While Mrs and Miss Growlers' are away, this bloody old grizzly is going to play. lol:
I feel a little trip to the Nurburgring (Gerrrrrmany for the uninitiated) for a blast 'round the circuit comin' on, hee hee hee. ;)
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Have you fixed that bloody machine yet by the way?
Good point. Those nice people in Birkenhead said it should be ready on Tuesday (last Tuesday, that is), but they haven't called yet. rubschin:
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Oh dear. Sunny day. Boy and Another Boy in the garden/ Other Boy came in and asked for the Bug Box (receptacle for insects coupled to magnifying glass for nature study). Off he went with it.
5 minutes pass.
Pall of smoke emerges from garden! eeek: He has learnt how to make fire! scared2:
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Oh dear. Sunny day. Boy and Another Boy in the garden/ Other Boy came in and asked for the Bug Box (receptacle for insects coupled to magnifying glass for nature study). Off he went with it.
5 minutes pass.
Pall of smoke emerges from garden! eeek: He has learnt how to make fire! scared2:
Oh Dear! ~ Do you want to borrow a hose? ~ You know I have one evil:
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Looks like it could be the Hoylake Life Boat show tomorrow IF this good weather holds. eeek:
You can watch it in here too! http://www.wirralcam.org/hoylake.shtml
Red arras are comin' amongst other fast flying stuff. happy088
I'll give you all a wave if I go. You'll recognise my very fat arse. lol:
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Looks like it could be the Hoylake Life Boat show tomorrow IF this good weather holds. eeek:
You can watch it in here too! http://www.wirralcam.org/hoylake.shtml
Red arras are comin' amongst other fast flying stuff. happy088
I'll give you all a wave if I go. You'll recognise my very fat arse. lol:
Looks bloody cold to me... mind you I suppose it is only 7:30 there...
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Looks like it could be the Hoylake Life Boat show tomorrow IF this good weather holds. eeek:
You can watch it in here too! http://www.wirralcam.org/hoylake.shtml
Red arras are comin' amongst other fast flying stuff. happy088
I'll give you all a wave if I go. You'll recognise my very fat arse. lol:
Looks bloody cold to me... mind you I suppose it is only 7:30 there...
Another cam they've got running now too. All the old stuff is rolling up, including me later. lol:
http://www.wirralcam.org/hilbreview.shtml
My old school bus'! cloud9:
It is a bit nippy here today, but a bit of blueness on the 'orizon.
Haven't been for a couple of years cus of the shite weather. Bloody cold hole if it's wet and windy, and 'arf the air displays get cancelled.
Any of you local mob goin', or is it the GREAT bank holiday DFS sale command from the missus.................NICK? ::)
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Thankls for the Red Arrows tip. Spect that info was in the local free rag - from doormat to recycling bin in one elegant motion!
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Thankls for the Red Arrows tip. Spect that info was in the local free rag - from doormat to recycling bin in one elegant motion!
I'm sure 'The Boy' would luv 'em. Not much chance of any disasters either.
On second thoughts. rubschin:
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Consider Providence to be tempted evil: (Take a helmet)
Mind you if we go, we'll be late (Mrs Nick has no concept of 3.00 that doesn't read more like 3.22.)
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Consider Providence to be tempted evil: (Take a helmet)
Mind you if we go, we'll be late (Mrs Nick has no concept of 3.00 that doesn't read more like 3.22.)
Kicks off @ 11 I think. Be prepared for a walk. Parking gets a bit busy to put it mildly.
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Yes, but the red arrows are on at 3, and you don't have to be in HOylake to see that. (Note to Growler: they are in the sky)
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We had the Battle of Britain Flight yesterday and the Red Devils Free Fall team today. (Rhyl)
Red Arrows two weeks ago plus vintage cars etc. and a Ploughing match with very elderly tractors (Prestatyn)
And of course our own Scarecrow Festival (organised and run by yours truly) this weekend.
It is also our Annual Duck Race today
I'll not be driving round to Hoylake thanks all the same.
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You can watch it in here too! http://www.wirralcam.org/hoylake.shtml
Red arras are comin' amongst other fast flying stuff. happy088
I'll give you all a wave if I go. You'll recognise my very fat arse. lol:
Another cam they've got running now too. All the old stuff is rolling up, including me later. lol:
http://www.wirralcam.org/hilbreview.shtml
All I can see is a pair of small aircraft on the ground next to a powered hang glider and a Red cross Ambulance...Not a sign anywehre of a Grizzley, Polar or any other type of Bear. noooo:
The other one shows a life boat out of water and lots of sand, can I assume the tide is out?
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Your tidal assumptions are correct. High Tide is not until about 10 tonight.
What a perceptive Pussy ;)
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Oh Dear - It's raining! noooo:
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Hmm ~ does look a little damp on the camera and very dark across the estuary ~ 'snot raining this side yet whistle:
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Right on time the Red Arrows have flown over the kennel on route to Hoylake
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Oh! s'not raining! Where's the boat gone?
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The Boy? scared2:
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He is out with his girlfriend. Peace and quiet here.
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He is out with his girlfriend. Peace and quiet here.
So he may be responsible for the missing boat and you don't know?
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Well he is in Hoylake......... confused:
scared2:
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Well he is in Hoylake......... confused:
scared2:
Oh Dear ~ I feel that I may have ruined your afternoon. scared:
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You all missed bloody nowt tbh.
Bloody shite mainly due to over zealous organisers DEMANDING that we all got off the beach and onto the road.....for H&S reasons per the Civil Aviation Authority....apparently. ::)
3 little hitlars wearing blue hard hats...WHY? Falling asteroids imminent?..... marching up and down the beach bellowing at anyone who dared set so much as a foot on the sand ffs.
Thay even had the bloody cop helicopter hovering overhead, presumably checking we were all being the obedient little sheep they were demanding.
My piss boiled over and we came home...after we'd struggled through the hoardes of fellow sheep now on the totally dangerously overcrowded bloody road.
This show has run perfectly well for about 2 decades without all this bloody H&S nonsense. As if moving everyone back 20ft would make a blind bit of difference if a Red Arrow were to go out of control @400 mph ffs.
Bloody raging tossers. I won't be going ever again. noooo:
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And if you had all stood where you were and told them to fvck off what could they have done?
The foreshore (between high and low water mark belongs to the crown) and HM has graciously granted all her subject the right to be there.
Like you said Growler we have been conditioned into sheep like obedience and that is why the junior terrorists get away with their appalling behaviour.
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I was the last one to leave....begrudgingly, chunering the words H& bloody S in the process.
Not good when hundreds are staring at you muttering what a beligerant get 'THAT is'
Spilt me bastard coffee in the process too, probably much to everyones amusement. evil:
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And if you had all stood where you were and told them to fvck off what could they have done?
The few that remained slightly defiant were warned over the p.a., that if we didn't move then the inement displays would be called off.
I'm half inclined to contact the C.A.A. to see if this ruling was in fact in place for todays show.
We weren't all wandering around the beach aimlessly, the vast majority were sitting...like me and my tribe, against the wall on the beach, enjoying a bit of breathing space and a sit down after a long walk.
Bloody jobsworthy tossers. evil:
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H & S officials feeding a couple of guests today. ::)
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In general terms the display should take place parallel with the "crowd line" and at no point should the manouvers take the aircraft toward the spectators.
See: http://www.caa.co.uk/docs/33/CivilAirDisplaysAGuideforPilots.pdf
The positioning of the spectators is really a matter for the organisers to agree with the Local Authority who will have licenced the event.
It's all down to yer 'elf n safety innit.
Further info at: http://www.adae.co.uk/helpnadvice.htm
And the Law is at: http://www.opsi.gov.uk/si/si1987/Uksi_19871812_en_1.htm
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And if you had all stood where you were and told them to fvck off what could they have done?
The few that remained slightly defiant were warned over the p.a., that if we didn't move then the inement displays would be called off.
I'm half inclined to contact the C.A.A. to see if this ruling was in fact in place for todays show.
We weren't all wandering around the beach aimlessly, the vast majority were sitting...like me and my tribe, against the wall on the beach, enjoying a bit of breathing space and a sit down after a long walk.
Bloody jobsworthy tossers. evil:
I love the idea that some arsehole on the beach is going to be able to tell 9 BAE Systems Hawk T1s screaming over the Dee Estuary at 500 mph to stop. ::)
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In general terms the display should take place parallel with the "crowd line" and at no point should the manouvers take the aircraft toward the spectators.
Well that ones' straight out the window.
Manouvers take place both parrallel and towards the crowd. Same this year as in previous.
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And if you had all stood where you were and told them to fvck off what could they have done?
The few that remained slightly defiant were warned over the p.a., that if we didn't move then the inement displays would be called off.
I'm half inclined to contact the C.A.A. to see if this ruling was in fact in place for todays show.
We weren't all wandering around the beach aimlessly, the vast majority were sitting...like me and my tribe, against the wall on the beach, enjoying a bit of breathing space and a sit down after a long walk.
Bloody jobsworthy tossers. evil:
I love the idea that some arsehole on the beach is going to be able to tell 9 BAE Systems Hawk T1s screaming over the Dee Estuary at 500 mph to stop. ::)
The beach was cleared a good 20 minutes before the first display arrived. Plenty of time to radio through I suspect.
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From my previous 'visual' experiences of air shows, it seems (to me)to matter not one bloody jot where the spectators are standing. If an aircraft is going to go out of control, it doesn't 'thoughtfully' decide to avoid the crowd, especially if the pilot has bailed out, it'll bloody well crash where it crashes. Crowd or no crowd. You are there at your own risk, with the full knowledge of the possible dangers involved.
"Get back 10' off the sand behind the metal railings"....MY FAT ARSE! evil:
At least on the sand you stand a small chance of digging a 40' hole to dive into before the crash landing ffs. ;)
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Having worked (briefly) with the Red Arrows I couldn't agree more but the point about manouvers is that should they go wrong the speed of the aircraft should carry it clear of the spectators hence they may over-fly but they will do the fancy stuff parallel (which gives everyone the best view) but the pilots are well aware that the biggest thrill for the crowd if the sheer noise and vibration as they go over your heads.
It is, as I said, much more to do with the Local Authority's interpretation of the Health and Safety legislation and the advice pack the RAF supply them.
A good example is the village show I organised here four years ago. I had arranged to use a field belonging to a local farmer ~ the County Council insisted on the Fire Brigade carrying out an inspection and issuing a certificate. The field is surrounded by a dry stone wall of about four feet in height with a gate from the roadway ~ which we proposed should be the entrance and exit. There are two other gates which lead into adjoining fields but these fields were full of sheep and, understandably, the farmer had padlocked them. No vehicles other than show vehicles were to be allowed on the field and they all had to be on site 1 hour before we admitted the public. They also had to sign a contract which said they could not leave until the field was clear of visitors. The Fire Brigade would not issue a licence on the three acre grass field because it had "insufficient exits in the event of an emergency". Without that clearance from the Fire Officer the H&S at the County Council would not let the show go ahead.
I appealed on the grounds that nobody would be trapped by such a low wall should there be an emergency and in any event what emergency could there be from a show of village crafts, sheep dog handling and a brass band. A different fire officer came out to see me and passed the field as safe ::) BUT they charged for the two inspections.
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I remember many years ago attending the British Grand Prix which was at Brands Hatch at the time. The Red Arrows performed right above the crowd ? I had to lie on my back to take pictures of them coming vertically straight towards us (unfortunately I over-exposed every shot).
Nowadays, air shows are watered down incredibly to meet ?safety standards? and ensure that nobody so much as breaks a toe nail while the event is on. The crowd want the noise and danger, they accept that there is a risk; they know that it could all go terribly wrong yet air shows are more popular than ever. It seems to me that it is only the ?people in charge? that have this disproportionate fear of disaster and I wonder how long it will be before air shows and other ?dangerous events? are banned altogether.
Snoopy: I had similar problems with the fire brigade after we refurbished one of our industrial units in Reading. One of the fire exits led to a small sloppy (?m high) topped by a small picket fence ? it was the property boundary. No matter that there were never more than 15 people in the building, there were three other exits and a disabled granny could have got up the slope and over (or through) the fence the fire brigade stazi withheld the licence for the whole building.
cussing:
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I have never understood the Fire Brigades refusal to accept just what people, even the disabled, are capable of doing, when the flames are licking at their arse.
The world is not made up of large areas of safety around every potential hazard, nor, in an emergency, will people respond in the manner recommended, no matter how many "training " sessions, "drills" and notices are paid for.
Too much "Consider what if" training for too many "officials" who ~ and let's be honest here ~ if they had much in the way of sense, wouldn't be in the job in the first place.
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I have never understood the Fire Brigades refusal to accept just what people, even the disabled, are capable of doing, when the flames are licking at their arse.
The world is not made up of large areas of safety around every potential hazard, nor, in an emergency, will people respond in the manner recommended, no matter how many "training " sessions, "drills" and notices are paid for.
Too much "Consider what if" training for too many "officials" who ~ and let's be honest here ~ if they had much in the way of sense, wouldn't be in the job in the first place.
Agree with you?
In our own case we had jumped through every single hoop that they?d demanded: -
Sophisticated fire alarm/smoke detection system linked to fire brigade.
Extra fire exits
Latest fire cladding
2 hour fire doors at the end of every corridor.
More fire extinguishers than you could shake a stick at
Regular fire alarm tests
Regular unscheduled evacuation tests[/li][/list]
Basically I think the more you comply with their wishes the more things they think of to put in your way.
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This reminds me of what was said to me when I was given the opportunity to drive a Lotus Vauxhall single seater race car 5 years ago.
Getting into it, being a well built bloke fat bastard, was, to put it mildly, difficult.
With the help of the instructor, I squeezed in, but showed my concern by asking them, "what happens if I crash the bloody thing and it bursts into flames?"
The answer was quite true simple and to the point.
"Look fellah, if your arse is on fire, you WILL get out, no doubt about it!" lol:
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Never a truer word lol:
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If only that attitude were more common?
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If only that attitude were more common?
Which one?
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If only that attitude were more common?
Which one?
The sensible attitude about the fire in the car?
I remember my flying instructor explaining the evacuation procedure ? basically along the lines of ?if you look at my seat and its empty get out?.
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Getting back to your point of NOT flying towards the crowd Snoops. eeek:
http://www.wirralcam.org/hoylake.shtml
...and what TF are those twats doing on the beach please? evil:
Amazing. If you wait 20/30 seconds, the picture refreshes to the scene right now. Bit of a contrast ey? eeek:
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Getting back to your point of NOT flying towards the crowd Snoops. eeek:
http://www.wirralcam.org/hoylake.shtml
...and what TF are those twats doing on the beach please? evil:
You asked why? ~ I supplied references to the rules that apply and went on to agree with you about the jobs-worths concerned. Read the rules and they recommend that manouvers are performed in a manner that, should there be a collision, the speed of the aircraft would take the debris clear of the crowds. I didn't write 'em ~ just answered your query as to who wrote them. I did also make the point that both the pilots and the crowds know the thrill of being over-flown and that they will do this if possible, without endangering the crowd. Actually the gathering was probably more in danger from a commercial aircraft crossing the Irish Sea suffering a disaster than from the Red Arrows who I know, from personal involvement, are far more highly trained and far better serviced than any commercial aircraft or it's crew..
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Getting back to your point of NOT flying towards the crowd Snoops. eeek:
http://www.wirralcam.org/hoylake.shtml
...and what TF are those twats doing on the beach please? evil:
You asked why? ~ I supplied references to the rules that apply and went on to agree with you about the jobs-worths concerned. Read the rules and they recommend that manouvers are performed in a manner that, should there be a collision, the speed of the aircraft would take the debris clear of the crowds. I didn't write 'em ~ just answered your query as to who wrote them. I did also make the point that both the pilots and the crowds know the thrill of being over-flown and that they will do this if possible, without endangering the crowd. Actually the gathering was probably more in danger from a commercial aircraft crossing the Irish Sea suffering a disaster than from the Red Arrows who I know, from personal involvement, are far more highly trained and far better serviced than any commercial aircraft or it's crew..
manouvers ??? I bet you have an American spellchecker lol:
manoeuvres - it is, isn't it
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My spell checker is the one supplied by management ~ for all I know he got it off someone, wearing snake skin shoes, he met in a street market in Marrakesh
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My spell checker is the one supplied by management ~ for all I know he got it off someone, wearing snake skin shoes, he met in a street market in Marrakesh
I swapped it for a handful of magic beans? whistle:
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My spell checker is the one supplied by management ~ for all I know he got it off someone, wearing snake skin shoes, he met in a street market in Marrakesh
So, not only does it misspell manoeuvres but it's carpet is likely to be on fire too... eeek:
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This was more or less how I pictured the scene.
(https://www.virtual-pub.com/SMF/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.projectorcentral.com%2Fimages%2Farticles%2FCanontest8.jpg&hash=0613ea2b2f5ed033b73b57955d1fb8dd0d024c47)