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Title: 4th of August 1914
Post by: Barman on August 04, 2014, 04:40:35 AM

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Title: Re: 4th of August 1914
Post by: Just One More on August 04, 2014, 07:49:11 AM
I shall spend a few moments alone with my thoughts at  Sandham memorial chapel  (http://www.nationaltrust.org.uk/sandham-memorial-chapel/) later this morning. the website shows it as being closed today (  confused: ), if it is, at least I can stand in the garden 
Title: Re: 4th of August 1914
Post by: Barman on August 04, 2014, 08:24:22 AM
I shall spend a few moments alone with my thoughts at  Sandham memorial chapel  (http://www.nationaltrust.org.uk/sandham-memorial-chapel/) later this morning. the website shows it as being closed today (  confused: ), if it is, at least I can stand in the garden

I can't believe they would be closed today....   noooo:
Title: Re: 4th of August 1914
Post by: Steve on August 04, 2014, 08:50:38 AM
As per the OP, never forget.
Title: Re: 4th of August 1914
Post by: Uncle Mort on August 04, 2014, 09:08:17 AM
My grandparents


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Title: Re: 4th of August 1914
Post by: Barman on August 04, 2014, 01:02:34 PM
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Title: Re: 4th of August 1914
Post by: apc2010 on August 04, 2014, 01:06:17 PM
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Title: Re: 4th of August 1914
Post by: Steve on August 04, 2014, 01:55:33 PM
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Title: Re: 4th of August 1914
Post by: Nick on August 04, 2014, 05:39:43 PM
I wasn't going to bother with this light a candle shite until I recalled that Granny died in the "Spanish Flu" epidemic of 1918 which, IIRC, killed more than the War. She left my mum as a baby and my Grandad with 4 young kids  sad24:
Title: Re: 4th of August 1914
Post by: Steve on August 04, 2014, 06:06:05 PM
I wasn't going to bother with this light a candle shite until I recalled that Granny died in the "Spanish Flu" epidemic of 1918 which, IIRC, killed more than the War. She left my mum as a baby and my Grandad with 4 young kids  sad24:
sad24:   awful times

Not sure about this lights out thing, I have been increasingly getting pissed off today at too many people on the box acting like it's a national celebration.   
Title: Re: 4th of August 1914
Post by: Nick on August 04, 2014, 06:09:55 PM
Tbqh it explains why my mum was not too good at being a mum and was a crap cook. SHe had no one to learn from. Grandpa got married again, out of necessity, but it didn't werk out.

Kate Adie was  right earlier, it affected generations.
Title: Re: 4th of August 1914
Post by: Just One More on August 04, 2014, 08:58:06 PM
I shall spend a few moments alone with my thoughts at  Sandham memorial chapel  (http://www.nationaltrust.org.uk/sandham-memorial-chapel/) later this morning. the website shows it as being closed today (  confused: ), if it is, at least I can stand in the garden

They did open, a shame they never advertised the fact, I'm sure more would have made the journey. That said, I'm sure that anyone wanting to would have found appropriate time elsewhere
Title: Re: 4th of August 1914
Post by: Baldy on August 04, 2014, 09:48:45 PM
I shall spend a few moments alone with my thoughts at  Sandham memorial chapel  (http://www.nationaltrust.org.uk/sandham-memorial-chapel/) later this morning. the website shows it as being closed today (  confused: ), if it is, at least I can stand in the garden

They did open, a shame they never advertised the fact, I'm sure more would have made the journey. That said, I'm sure that anyone wanting to would have found appropriate time elsewhere

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Title: Re: 4th of August 1914
Post by: Barman on August 05, 2014, 09:33:25 AM
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Shouldn't we be remembering its end?

The first world war was a tragedy, the flower of a generation was sacrificed in a war in which the tactics of a previous generation were used to ill effect against machine guns and trench warfare. The term lions led by donkeys came about when the foolishness and arrogance of the generals was questioned but not the courage of the men they were supposed to lead to victory not ignominious death.

Yesterday the news was full of 'celebrations' of remembrance for the start of the conflict, last night a lot of public buildings were in darkness save for a single candle in commemoration. Yet what we were commemorating was the end result of politicians meddling in what they termed the great game, whereby they tied this country into a series of treaties that made war of some kind inevitable.

The flower of a generation, bright, patriotic and willing to give their all for king and country were mown down because of a series of treaties meant that the killing of an archduke in Serbia by a Serbian nationalist drew a response from Austia-Hungary and started unravelling a whole web of treaties in which eventually the Austrian ally of Germany invaded of Belgium because France was allied with Serbia drew us into the conflict.

In essence for all we're being told that we're remembering the courage of the men, were also commemorating a massive failure by politicians, one they are likely enough to repeat, after all world war two was a direct result of politicians botching up the negotiations at the end of world war one.

No, we should not be getting into bread and circuses for the start of WW1, we have a perfectly good Remembrance Day in November to remember the brave.

The start of WW1 was a tragedy made flesh by the idiocy of politicians, that is what we should remember.

Clicky....  (http://quietmanmyblog.blogspot.com/2014/08/shouldnt-we-be-remembering-its-end.html)

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