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Title: Hunting again.....
Post by: GROWLER on November 06, 2007, 11:48:54 PM
...for me own food. ::)

Mrs GROWLER has seen her arse big time with me tonight. ::)
Even i had a job controlling her temper and ranting directed at me, all because i apparently spend too much time trying to put the world to rights, complaining and growling about things that piss me off, and she never gets any respite...apparently... from my 'unreasonable complaints' about everything and everyone. ::)

I told her to go and stew her arse and get some wimmens werk done.

WOW, calm down luv! I was only messing.....ish.eeek:


What temperature do I wash me gruns on again? ::)
Title: Re: Hunting again.....
Post by: Misunderstood on November 06, 2007, 11:50:54 PM
To every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction.

Especially where wimmen are involved.
Title: Re: Hunting again.....
Post by: GROWLER on November 06, 2007, 11:55:54 PM
To every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction.

Especially where wimmen are involved.

I'll repeat that nugget of wisdom to myself while trying to nod off tonight. confused:
I may understand by the morning.


I do get a bit het up about things sometimes, granted, but i have to vent my anger and frustration somehow ffs....wumman. evil:
She just brushes 'shite' under the carpet. She'd probably make a great politician. ::)
Title: Re: Hunting again.....
Post by: Misunderstood on November 07, 2007, 12:06:03 AM
To every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction.

Especially where wimmen are involved.

I'll repeat that nugget of wisdom to myself while trying to nod off tonight. confused:
I may understand by the morning.


I do get a bit het up about things sometimes, granted, but i have to vent my anger and frustration somehow ffs....wumman. evil:
She just brushes 'shite' under the carpet. She'd probably make a great politician. ::)

I 'spect she sees herself as a calming influence on you.   ;D
Title: Re: Hunting again.....
Post by: GROWLER on November 07, 2007, 12:13:22 AM
To every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction.

Especially where wimmen are involved.

I'll repeat that nugget of wisdom to myself while trying to nod off tonight. confused:
I may understand by the morning.


I do get a bit het up about things sometimes, granted, but i have to vent my anger and frustration somehow ffs....wumman. evil:
She just brushes 'shite' under the carpet. She'd probably make a great politician. ::)

I 'spect she sees herself as a calming influence on you.   ;D

I'll put me head in mother bears mouth in the morning and ask her that!
 happy001
Title: Re: Hunting again.....
Post by: Misunderstood on November 07, 2007, 12:22:22 AM
 lol:

I'd like to be a fly-on-the-wall for THAT conversation.
Title: Re: Hunting again.....
Post by: Bar Wench on November 07, 2007, 11:11:45 AM
I must say I do reach a point with Mr Wench when I have just had enough of the moaning and the whinning and the ranting. It would just be nice if there was one day a week where it didn't happen.  sad24:
Title: Re: Hunting again.....
Post by: Nick on November 07, 2007, 11:12:13 AM
...for me own food. ::)

Mrs GROWLER has seen her arse big time with me tonight. ::)
Even i had a job controlling her temper and ranting directed at me, all because i apparently spend too much time trying to put the world to rights, complaining and growling about things that piss me off, and she never gets any respite...apparently... from my 'unreasonable complaints' about everything and everyone. ::)

I told her to go and stew her arse and get some wimmens werk done.

WOW, calm down luv! I was only messing.....ish.eeek:


What temperature do I wash me gruns on again? ::)

Do you want to move in here then and do that swop I mentioned yesterday. Mrs Nick on teh warpath too!
Title: Re: Hunting again.....
Post by: Barman on November 07, 2007, 12:36:31 PM
I must say I do reach a point with Mr Wench when I have just had enough of the moaning and the whinning and the ranting. It would just be nice if there was one day a week where it didn't happen.  sad24:
happy100
Title: Re: Hunting again.....
Post by: GROWLER on November 07, 2007, 06:49:38 PM
Well the tables have been well and truly turned this evening. I am bloody smouldering with fury at her presently. thatsit:

She's out at present, and if she's got ANY sense, she'll stay out until well after midnight.
RANTING thread later after i've had a lie down to calm down. evil:
Title: Re: Hunting again.....
Post by: Nick on November 07, 2007, 09:22:11 PM
Excellent.

It will still be your fault though noooo:
Title: Re: Hunting again.....
Post by: grumpyoldsoldier on November 08, 2007, 12:25:38 AM
Well the tables have been well and truly turned this evening. I am bloody smouldering with fury at her presently. thatsit:

She's out at present, and if she's got ANY sense, she'll stay out until well after midnight.
RANTING thread later after i've had a lie down to calm down. evil:

No doubt she will sneak up on you and give you one of THOSE looks, you know, the one that would stop a charging wounded premenstrual water buffalo dead in its tracks
Title: Re: Hunting again.....
Post by: Darwins Selection on November 08, 2007, 08:23:13 AM
Try standing in the garden muttering "No, I mustn't, not the patio again" as she passes.
Title: Re: Hunting again.....
Post by: grumpyoldsoldier on November 08, 2007, 09:19:40 AM
ah! the old physchological warfare trick....you cad darwin
Title: Re: Hunting again.....
Post by: GROWLER on November 08, 2007, 09:30:51 AM
Well the tables have been well and truly turned this evening. I am bloody smouldering with fury at her presently. thatsit:

She's out at present, and if she's got ANY sense, she'll stay out until well after midnight.
RANTING thread later after i've had a lie down to calm down. evil:

No doubt she will sneak up on you and give you one of THOSE looks, you know, the one that would stop a charging wounded premenstrual water buffalo dead in its tracks

Not actually that far from the truth GOS. Nick hit the nail on the head, and she is actually attempting to turn this current barney around by following me around, attempting to nag me to death for daring  scared2: to question her gross and unbelievably bad judgement.
Common sense , zero
Intelligence, zero.
I consider calling her thicker than a barrel of pig shit on a frosty day pretty damned tame tbh, considering she's just cost me £149 of totally uneccessary expense for not using that brain replacement cabbage that's in her head.
I am being totally unreasonable for being so upset apparently!  happy001
Using 3 £50 notes to wipe your arse, and then flushing them down the porcelain would be considered fairly wasteful by most reasonable folk i guess, cus that's how i see it as being. evil:

Not actually too sure how that one works out tbh. noooo:

I'm currently stoking up the fire in readiness for round 2 tonight. thatsit:
Title: Re: Hunting again.....
Post by: Bar Wench on November 08, 2007, 09:34:23 AM
So what did she do?  eeek:
Title: Re: Hunting again.....
Post by: grumpyoldsoldier on November 08, 2007, 09:36:39 AM
Bloody hell Growler!!!!!  A real Heather Mills there mate drumroll:
Title: Re: Hunting again.....
Post by: Darwins Selection on November 08, 2007, 10:42:57 AM
Is £149 a lot?

Mrs DS (#3) spends that every week or so having her hair done.

I can never see the difference personally, but it seems to make her feel better.

Why do they bother re-doing blonde hair when they have grey roots?

Brunette I can understand, but with grey you really have to look closely, and frankly I can't be bothered.
Title: Re: Hunting again.....
Post by: GROWLER on November 08, 2007, 01:37:20 PM
Is £149 a lot?



To me when the job is as difficult as it is at present, yes, it IS a lot.
At least Mrs DS #3 is seeing something for her money.
Well I suppose I am too in reality, but it was a totally uneccessary purchase due to the  total and utter unbelievable incompitance by this useless wench here, and i am, rightly so imo, bloody furious.
As is so so usual for wimmen though, and as GOS and Nick rightly observe, they have to go on the defence to try and cover up and divert the attention away from the matter in hand, hoping i'll forgive and forget. noooo:
The past is now being dragged up...my past, and the error of my ways going back up to 25 bloody years ffs! eeek:
Anything and everybloodything that comes into to her vacumn filled head, is being thrown at me, hoping i'll just roll over and have 'my tummy tickled' evil:

I'm going to spend the next day or two assessing my own reaction to all this, to try and fathom out if i am being unreasonable or not for the gross waste of £149 i've had to essentially and urgently pay out, due to her half witted dim decision yesterday.
As an emloyee over this matter, she'd have been at the very least given a final written warning, and if she'd been an employee of mine, i'd have bloody sacked and sued her for gross incompitance.
Title: Re: Hunting again.....
Post by: Nick on November 08, 2007, 01:39:49 PM
Oh dear, you are cross.

Mrs Nick gets cooked for and still give me shite! scared2:

NEVER GET MARRIED!














ps: wHAT COST £149.?  We all want to know. tunble:
Title: Re: Hunting again.....
Post by: Darwins Selection on November 08, 2007, 01:45:00 PM
Is £149 a lot?



To me when the job is as difficult as it is at present, yes, it IS a lot.
At least Mrs DS #3 is seeing something for her money.
Well I suppose I am too in reality, but it was a totally uneccessary purchase due to the  total and utter unbelievable incompitance by this useless wench here, and i am, rightly so imo, bloody furious.
As is so so usual for wimmen though, and as GOS and Nick rightly observe, they have to go on the defence to try and cover up and divert the attention away from the matter in hand, hoping i'll forgive and forget. noooo:
The past is now being dragged up...my past, and the error of my ways going back up to 25 bloody years ffs! eeek:
Anything and everybloodything that comes into to her vacumn filled head, is being thrown at me, hoping i'll just roll over and have 'my tummy tickled' evil:

I'm going to spend the next day or two assessing my own reaction to all this, to try and fathom out if i am being unreasonable or not for the gross waste of £149 i've had to essentially and urgently pay out, due to her half witted dim decision yesterday.
As an emloyee over this matter, she'd have been at the very least given a final written warning, and if she'd been an employee of mine, i'd have bloody sacked and sued her for gross incompitance.
surrender:

Mind that blood pressure. noooo:

"The past is now being dragged up...my past, and the error of my ways going back up to 25 bloody years ffs! eeek:"
This is standard practice for the gender. You are no being singled out.


So what did cost £149 and what did you do 25 years ago?

Title: Re: Hunting again.....
Post by: GROWLER on November 08, 2007, 02:22:41 PM
OK, it might seem trivial to some i know, but as stated previous, it was all so uneccessary, and has cost me dearly at a time when i can ill afford such things.
The family car that she is in charge of during the daytime has got some rather uneccessary and annoying 'toys' on it.
One of these however, is a tyre pressure monitoring system that informs you immediately if the pressure is falling or has fallen to dangerous levels on any given tyre.
It saved a tyre just 2 months ago, and i manged to get it repaired before any terminal damage was sustained. Great system , and well worth having imo.

We all get punctures, and it's a unaviodable pain, but on this occassion, Mrs useless G got in the car, turned on the ignition, and on her own addmission the dashboard went 'bing' and the message came up, 'STOP, low pressure on rear o/s tyre'.

Now i ridiculously wouldn't expect her to change the wheel/tyre, that's MANS work apparently, but i would expect a bit of use of common sense in that she would ring me up for advice first before plundering off.
She chose not to, thinking i would be annoyed, even though she knew i was reasonably local.
Yea, i wouldn't have been extatic, but shit happens, and my slight annoyance would have been rightly directed at the nail in the tyre, NOT her.

Despite the visual warning however, she decided to drive home 7 miles on a completely flat tyre...."slowly" as she put it, as if THAT would make ANY difference to the inherent damage that that would cause.
She rings me to ask me can i go and pick the kids up from school, as the car had a puncture. I didn't realise at this point that she'd driven on ot completely flat. It was only when i got home that i saw just how flat it was. Big black shiny ring where it had been rubbing against the rim. eeek:

She stood there apologising continuosly which just made matters worse in reality.


Pumped it up, and  drove the car down to the tyre depot, and they confirm the tyre is destroyed due to driving on it whilst deflated. It was too. Bloody big bulge where the nail had been rubbing against the inner tyre wall.
To make me feel worse, he said "could have fixed this , if only....."

Being a nearly new car, i didn't feel inclined putting a cheapo remould on, so a Michelin Pilot it had to be @ £149.
Couldn't even use the spare as it's one of those poxy 'space savers' ::)
Title: Re: Hunting again.....
Post by: Nick on November 08, 2007, 02:25:00 PM
Kill her. eveilgrin: Do you require assistance?
Title: Re: Hunting again.....
Post by: GROWLER on November 08, 2007, 02:29:53 PM
Kill her. eveilgrin: Do you require assistance?

NO! I'll enjoy on my own thanks.

Women?!
Unbloodybelievable. ::)

Loads of GCSE's O and A, letters after her name etc etc.
The only initials i'd put after her name are F.U.B. thatsit:

I'm now waiting for GROWLERS Jnrs school to ring me back, to enable me to vent some of my fury at them regarding something else totally unrelated.
I'm right in the mood for a nark presently. eveilgrin:

Mrs G has now decided to be all nicey nicey to me again now too, with cheery hellos, and how are you's.  cloud9: Two faced reptile. evil:
AS IF! eeek:
Give me the strength of a thousand bastards! thatsit:
Title: Re: Hunting again.....
Post by: grumpyoldsoldier on November 08, 2007, 02:52:28 PM
Swop her for a bloody camel....
Title: Re: Hunting again.....
Post by: Darwins Selection on November 08, 2007, 02:53:33 PM
Kill her. eveilgrin: Do you require assistance?

NO! I'll enjoy on my own thanks.

Women?!
Unbloodybelievable. ::)

Loads of GCSE's O and A, letters after her name etc etc.
The only initials i'd put after her name are F.U.B. thatsit:

I'm now waiting for GROWLERS Jnrs school to ring me back, to enable me to vent some of my fury at them regarding something else totally unrelated.
I'm right in the mood for a nark presently. eveilgrin:

Mrs G has now decided to be all nicey nicey to me again now too, with cheery hellos, and how are you's.  cloud9: Two faced reptile. evil:
AS IF! eeek:
Give me the strength of a thousand bastards! thatsit:
Banghead Banghead Banghead Banghead Banghead

Would you like to borrow something blunt or something sharp?
Title: Re: Hunting again.....
Post by: Nick on November 08, 2007, 07:09:00 PM
 happy100 happy100
Title: Re: Hunting again.....
Post by: Uncle Mort on November 08, 2007, 08:51:46 PM
How about forgiving her? after all maybe it's your general attitude that caused her to to drive with the flat tyre.

Quote from: Growler
She chose not to, thinking i would be annoyed
Title: Re: Hunting again.....
Post by: Snoopy on November 08, 2007, 09:08:30 PM
 rubschin: Sorry to state the obvious but that sounds pretty standard procedure for a female.

Save your ammunition and in 6 weeks time give her a card saying Merry Christmas with the receipt for the new tyre pinned inside it together with a brief note that explains you had planned on buying her something else but due to the expense of the tyre you couldn't afford it so she'll have to accept the tyre as her Christmas Pressy.. that should ensure domestic harmony over the sprouts and cooking sherry. eveilgrin:
Title: Re: Hunting again.....
Post by: Nick on November 08, 2007, 09:12:26 PM
rubschin: Sorry to state the obvious but that sounds pretty standard procedure for a female.

Save your ammunition and in 6 weeks time give her a card saying Merry Christmas with the receipt for the new tyre pinned inside it together with a brief note that explains you had planned on buying her something else but due to the expense of the tyre you couldn't afford it so she'll have to accept the tyre as her Christmas Pressy.. that should ensure domestic harmony over the sprouts and cooking sherry. eveilgrin:

I can't find the emoticon that would convey my fears evil: ::) cry: point: cussing: bs: Banghead Angry9: bom drumroll: bom angel1 alien eyes: sad32: eveilgrin: eveilgrin: eveilgrin: tunble: Banghead Banghead bs: lol: redface: spider: spider: spider: ;) lol: lol: evil: eeek: eeek: eeek: eeek: eeek:
Title: Re: Hunting again.....
Post by: Snoopy on November 08, 2007, 09:15:48 PM
 whistle:
Title: Re: Hunting again.....
Post by: Bar Wench on November 08, 2007, 09:19:29 PM
To be fair if Mr Wench did that to me after that sort of a silly mistake there isn't really all that much that I could say about it. Especially if we had just started up a new business and had a bunch of kids.  shrugs:
Title: Re: Hunting again.....
Post by: Snoopy on November 08, 2007, 09:32:11 PM
'Cactly evil:

Trust a much married man in this matter. It isn't nice and it won't be pretty but at least someone will get some pleasure out of it.
Title: Re: Hunting again.....
Post by: GROWLER on November 08, 2007, 09:37:45 PM
To be fair if Mr Wench did that to me after that sort of a silly mistake there isn't really all that much that I could say about it. Especially if we had just started up a new business and had a bunch of kids.  shrugs:

It WASN'T a mistake. That's my point and why i'm so pissed off.


Don't start making out...some of you...that i'm some sort of evil nasty unforgiving bastard, that has some sort of permanent bad attitude.
I will always forgive 'mistakes', and i dare say i've moved on over this particular issue now. Whats done is done and it WON'T happen again. I've been assured.
I think most of you would have been pretty damned pissed off though tbh.
Title: Re: Hunting again.....
Post by: Bar Wench on November 08, 2007, 09:39:33 PM
To be fair if Mr Wench did that to me after that sort of a silly mistake there isn't really all that much that I could say about it. Especially if we had just started up a new business and had a bunch of kids.  shrugs:

It WASN'T a mistake. That's my point and why i'm so pissed off.


Don't start making out...some of you...that i'm some sort of evil nasty unforgiving bastard, that has some sort of permanent bad attitude.
I will always forgive 'mistakes', and i dare say i've moved on over this particular issue now. Whats done is done and it WON'T happen again. I've been assured.
I think most of you would have been pretty damned pissed off though tbh.

Not at all.

Her mistake was in not calling you and asking what she should do. Driving on it when she shouldn't have done was just well, idiotic really.
Title: Re: Hunting again.....
Post by: GROWLER on November 08, 2007, 09:43:36 PM
Oh. I thought she may have p'raps been frightened to,  scared2:.... you know, what with my 'general attitude' and stuff. ::)

She knew I wouldn't be happy, yes I agree, but about the situation, NOT because of the  fact that she may have thought i was going to blame her ffs. ::) We ALL get punctures. THAT is no ones fault.

She damned well knows that driving on a flat WILL destroy a tyre.
So why did she do it? Probably to save time, i really don't know.
She just stated that she thought it would 'be ok if she drove slowly. ::)

I know what she's like, YOU lot don't.
Believe me when I say, she's a wooly head.
Title: Re: Hunting again.....
Post by: Sour Puss on November 09, 2007, 12:34:49 AM


I know what she's like, YOU lot don't.
Believe me when I say, she's a wooly head.



happy100  I don't want to rub noses in or anything, but I can, and have changed my own tires in the past  cloud9: although with this new car they send a man and a van out if I have any problems I have found a puncture and had it repaired and back on the  road in less than 20 minutes so I cannot grumble. Another advantage I had not thought of when we got into this scheme. I also know where the Oil and Water go and how and when to jump start and I even remember how to take apart a distributor cap and remove moisture from within, and I once used one of my stockings as a fan belt.... They don't make them like they used to anymore  noooo:   Once, on a weekend vintage car rally/ treasure hunt, in France I was navigating for a friend who had an open top sports car, she forgot to mention it's preponderance for overheating (and blowing up) and she forgot to mention we would have to do the whole stage in fancy dress...She brought the costumes...Yes, to my eternal shame, I admit it because there is photographic evidence, we ran around Northern France dressed as chickens.  redface: Still, I did get to sit next to Michaela Strachen at dinner that night, which was when she discovered, that even the best hotels in France did not understand the term Vegetarian at that time. Well they did not / do not get the concept of a meal without meat.
Title: Re: Hunting again.....
Post by: GROWLER on November 09, 2007, 09:04:15 AM
You sound just like my kinda girl P.G., dirty finger nails an'all. cloud9:

Funnily enough, I've sat at the same table for dinner with Michaela Strachen too. Nice fun lovin' girl.
Unfortunately that coke snortin bimbo with one nostril off Eastenders was there too. ::) Sulky bitch.
Title: Re: Hunting again.....
Post by: Bar Wench on November 09, 2007, 09:12:06 AM
Just to make it clear, my not at all, was targeted at your evil nasty unforgiving bastard comment.
Title: Re: Hunting again.....
Post by: Darwins Selection on November 09, 2007, 09:17:25 AM
Just to make it clear, my not at all, was targeted at your evil nasty unforgiving bastard comment.
 
 noooo: noooo: noooo: noooo: noooo:
Title: Re: Hunting again.....
Post by: GROWLER on November 09, 2007, 09:24:44 AM
Just to make it clear, my not at all, was targeted at your evil nasty unforgiving bastard comment.

I've run that one through a few times, and I think i understand now.

I've just been enraged over the last few days. Take no notice. Apologies for my ranting. The waters are calming slowly.
Good to get it off me chest though, rather than sitting here frothing and seething.
Title: Re: Hunting again.....
Post by: Darwins Selection on November 09, 2007, 09:33:20 AM
Just to make it clear, my not at all, was targeted at your evil nasty unforgiving bastard comment.

I've run that one through a few times, and I think i understand now.

I've just been enraged over the last few days. Take no notice. Apologies for my ranting. The waters are calming slowly.
Good to get it off me chest though, rather than sitting here frothing and seething.

If we provide you with a willing ear for your spleen-venting, in lieu of violence to Mrs Growler, then I am happy so to do. happy100

Provided you don't mine a little urine extraction along the way.
Title: Re: Hunting again.....
Post by: GROWLER on November 09, 2007, 09:35:07 AM
Just to make it clear, my not at all, was targeted at your evil nasty unforgiving bastard comment.

I've run that one through a few times, and I think i understand now.

I've just been enraged over the last few days. Take no notice. Apologies for my ranting. The waters are calming slowly.
Good to get it off me chest though, rather than sitting here frothing and seething.

If we provide you with a willing ear for your spleen-venting, in lieu of violence to Mrs Growler, then I am happy so to do. happy100

Provided you don't mine a little urine extraction along the way.

Quite. cloud9:
Title: Re: Hunting again.....
Post by: Bar Wench on November 09, 2007, 09:47:11 AM
Just to make it clear, my not at all, was targeted at your evil nasty unforgiving bastard comment.

I've run that one through a few times, and I think i understand now.

I've just been enraged over the last few days. Take no notice. Apologies for my ranting. The waters are calming slowly.
Good to get it off me chest though, rather than sitting here frothing and seething.

Better that you unload here than beat your family over the head with a shovel.  ;)

I've been rather wooly headed myself the past few days so I'm not expressing myself terrible well. Really need to get some sleep. Insomnia is ruling the day and the night at my house at the moment.  noooo:
Title: Re: Hunting again.....
Post by: Darwins Selection on November 09, 2007, 10:54:04 AM
I've been rather wooly headed myself the past few days

You seemed you usual self to the rest of us. whistle:
Title: Re: Hunting again.....
Post by: Bar Wench on November 09, 2007, 11:02:36 AM
I've been rather wooly headed myself the past few days

You seemed you usual self to the rest of us. whistle:

 redface:
Title: Re: Hunting again.....
Post by: tel on November 09, 2007, 11:12:06 AM
I've been rather wooly headed myself the past few days

You seemed you usual self to the rest of us. whistle:

 redface:

Not worth loosing sleep over.
Title: Re: Hunting again.....
Post by: Darwins Selection on November 09, 2007, 11:38:34 AM
I've been rather wooly headed myself the past few days

You seemed you usual self to the rest of us. whistle:

 redface:

Not worth loosing sleep over.

Losing sleep isn't always bad, if my memory serves me well. whistle:  eyes:
 

Which it often doesn't these days  surrender:
Title: Re: Hunting again.....
Post by: Misunderstood on November 09, 2007, 02:19:52 PM
Poor Growler.

I can understand only too well what you have been suffering the last couple of days, but it may help if you realise that in the greater scheme of things it is not anger that you are feeling, but frustration.

Frustrated that such a daft act could see you out of pocket so quickly and there wasn't a damn thing you could do about it because you didn't know about it.  Such a simple fix would have saved the day - but alas - it happened.

One of the first things to settle down to come to terms with, is that there are technical people, and there people that simply and literally don't comprehend things technical.

They see life through a completely different pair of eyes and to the great annoyance of people that are technically aware, they consider things like cars to be complete entities.  like people, if you will, they cannot see the irrational proposition that some parts are more important than others.  They expect some sympathy from the car to their predicament and absolutely believe that pleading with the car and treating it nicely will postpone the problem to a more convenient time where it will be loved for being so considerate and patient.   Then when all hell is let loose they really can't see where they went wrong, after all, it was the car's fault not theirs that the puncture didn't wait a bit.

It is very much an alternative logic that is in force, 'we' cannot see any sense in it in exactly the same way as 'they' can't see our 'blindingly obvious' logical reasoning.

Nevertheless, we have to come to terms with it and the only way forwards is for all of us to extend a little flexibility in trying to visualise the other's viewpoint - or logic point if you like.

As in nearly all cases, in the glaring light of hindsight, she fully realises the consequences of her action and is mortified by the outcome, hence the continuous apologising, but as is usual in human nature once the criticism has reached a certain level for the defence mechanism to kick in and attempts to present some kind of intelligence level. This becomes a priority - even if it is only to preserve some kind of self-respect - we all do it but in is only noticeable when others do it to us and seriously annoy us by the appearance of denying culpability.

The only crumb of comfort in it the fact that she is very, very unlikely to do that again.  But that should not be taken as a major re-evaluation of the 'human' approach to machines, because it is not.  She has learned the hard way that tyres are more important than some other bits but that's all.  She probably has no idea why.

We can only wait to wonder what the next breath-taking episode of mechanical ignorance will manifest itself.  So you must press home the message that whenever a similar decision has to be made, the first action will be to ask you for an opinion. 

And you will not be grumpy when you answer countless 'silly' questions and slowly come to realise that there is an entire gulf in the difference of 'common sense' between mechanical people and non-mechanical people, and take comfort in the fact that a lesson - albeit an expensive lesson - has been learned.

Hopefully by both of you.

I write this, not intending it to be critical of either side but as an attempt to bridge the wide but invisible gap between different people in their application of 'common-sense.  Common-sense is only applicable to people who are completely familiar with the subject in focus.  It took me some 40 years to make that observation but life is a lot calmer now that I have.

This calm state is helped enormously by a partner that can actually think things through.  A rare talent. 
Title: Re: Hunting again.....
Post by: Nick on November 09, 2007, 02:23:01 PM
Quote
We can only wait to wonder what the next breath-taking episode of mechanical ignorance will manifest itself.

I doubt we will have to wait long! evil:
Title: Re: Hunting again.....
Post by: GROWLER on November 09, 2007, 05:51:59 PM
Bouncer. Resident physcolgist. eeek:

In the glowing ::) aftermath of reflection, what you've stated is very true.

As much as she has admitted her stupidity for not ringing me for advice, and  even though she knew I wouldn't be happy, she now freely admits that my mild annoyance would have been directed at the tyre and nail, NOT her.
 
That therefore throws out the theory that she didn't ring me because of my somewhat 'turbulent tempremant' and 'general attitude' i'm pleased to conclude. ::)

The lesson has been painfully learnt, and she has confirmed that in future, if the dashboard shows STOP, she will.

Meanwhile, my hunt for solid tyres continues with gusto. lol:
Title: Re: Hunting again.....
Post by: GROWLER on November 09, 2007, 05:53:19 PM
Quote
We can only wait to wonder what the next breath-taking episode of mechanical ignorance will manifest itself.

I doubt we will have to wait long! evil:


TOO! evil:
Title: Re: Hunting again.....
Post by: Marley's Ghost (Imbiber of Spirits) on November 09, 2007, 06:30:49 PM
Quote
We can only wait to wonder what the next breath-taking episode of mechanical ignorance will manifest itself.

I doubt we will have to wait long! evil:


TOO! evil:

Sorry Growler, NO!

In that sentence, the verb form (infinitive as in split e.g. 'to boldly go' where the modifier boldly is inserted into the infinitive form of the verb 'to go') is 'to wait'. You'd have been correct if it had been written thus:

I doubt we will have toO long to wait      (note: it is still 'to wait')

OK?
Title: Re: Hunting again.....
Post by: Darwins Selection on November 09, 2007, 06:37:28 PM
Quote
We can only wait to wonder what the next breath-taking episode of mechanical ignorance will manifest itself.

I doubt we will have to wait long! evil:


TOO! evil:

Sorry Growler, NO!

In that sentence, the verb form (infinitive as in split e.g. 'to boldly go' where the modifier boldly is inserted into the infinitive form of the verb 'to go') is 'to wait'. You'd have been correct if it had been written thus:

I doubt we will have toO long to wait      (note: it is still 'to wait')

OK?

Wrong you are not.
Title: Re: Hunting again.....
Post by: Marley's Ghost (Imbiber of Spirits) on November 09, 2007, 06:38:29 PM
Quote
We can only wait to wonder what the next breath-taking episode of mechanical ignorance will manifest itself.

I doubt we will have to wait long! evil:


TOO! evil:

Sorry Growler, NO!

In that sentence, the verb form (infinitive as in split e.g. 'to boldly go' where the modifier boldly is inserted into the infinitive form of the verb 'to go') is 'to wait'. You'd have been correct if it had been written thus:

I doubt we will have toO long to wait      (note: it is still 'to wait')

OK?

Wrong you are not.

Know I that!
Title: Re: Hunting again.....
Post by: GROWLER on November 09, 2007, 06:41:42 PM
I know. I was just testing. scared:
Now if he's put the 'to' after the werd 'wait', that would warrant the extra 'o'.
See? Easy!


















truth be know, a bit of dyslexia kicked in, and i read the 'to' the wrong side of the 'wait'....aghhh!


Oh, and by the way DS. I hit my bloody screen this morning, thanks to YOU! ;)
Title: Re: Hunting again.....
Post by: Darwins Selection on November 09, 2007, 06:56:48 PM
Oh, and by the way DS. I hit my bloody screen this morning, thanks to YOU! ;)

What, wouldn't it fit in the dishwasher?
Title: Re: Hunting again.....
Post by: Nick on November 09, 2007, 07:02:23 PM
K?
Title: Re: Hunting again.....
Post by: GROWLER on November 09, 2007, 07:20:08 PM
Oh, and by the way DS. I hit my bloody screen this morning, thanks to YOU! ;)

What, wouldn't it fit in the dishwasher?

No you bloody ape. THE FLY! ::)
Title: Re: Hunting again.....
Post by: Nick on November 09, 2007, 07:29:58 PM
K?
Title: Re: Hunting again.....
Post by: GROWLER on November 09, 2007, 07:56:43 PM
K?

Do you deliberately act dim just to piss me off, or is it simply a natural and truly amazing hidden talent of yours? rubschin:
Title: Re: Hunting again.....
Post by: Nick on November 09, 2007, 08:35:38 PM
K?
Title: Re: Hunting again.....
Post by: GROWLER on November 09, 2007, 09:28:21 PM
K?

Just as i thought.
Congratulations. ::)
Title: Re: Hunting again.....
Post by: Barman on November 10, 2007, 06:16:13 AM
Oh, and by the way DS. I hit my bloody screen this morning, thanks to YOU! ;)

What, wouldn't it fit in the dishwasher?

No you bloody ape. THE FLY! ::)
point:
Title: Re: Hunting again.....
Post by: Mozo on November 15, 2007, 10:37:02 AM
Quote
We can only wait to wonder what the next breath-taking episode of mechanical ignorance will manifest itself.

I doubt we will have to wait long! evil:


TOO! evil:

Sorry Growler, NO!

In that sentence, the verb form (infinitive as in split e.g. 'to boldly go' where the modifier boldly is inserted into the infinitive form of the verb 'to go') is 'to wait'. You'd have been correct if it had been written thus:

I doubt we will have toO long to wait      (note: it is still 'to wait')

OK?

Wrong you are not.

Know I that!

Pedantry perpetuated ... up with this, we shall no longer put!
Title: Re: Hunting again.....
Post by: chuntering again on November 15, 2007, 12:15:56 PM
Growler, I'm full of sympathy for the annoyance we endure at the hands of the premenstrual sex, but how can you blame her for costing you a new tyre when the tyre had a nail in it? That has happened to me twice in the past year, and each time I have handled the situation correctly, but  still had to have the tyre replaced. Modern tyres aren't really made to be repaired, and it is often more cost effective to just get a new one anyway. Besides - would you really feel confident driving on a motorway with a repaired tyre?

It sounds like £90-100 of the money spent was due to your own insistance that you fit a specific, Michelin tyre. £150 sounds inordinately expensive to me - I had a Bridgestone 4x4 tyre replaced on my CRV for just £60. What sort of vehicle are we talking about? A tractor?  ;)

I suspect you're just a bit sick of eachother's shit, which is perfectly understandable after 25 years together.  whistle:
Title: Re: Hunting again.....
Post by: Nick on November 15, 2007, 12:17:08 PM
Don't upset him.

He's currently sulking (official)
Title: Re: Hunting again.....
Post by: Darwins Selection on November 15, 2007, 01:22:23 PM
Don't upset him.

He's currently sulking (official)

Do pass him my best wishes.  happy100
Title: Re: Hunting again.....
Post by: Nick on November 15, 2007, 01:23:05 PM
I have. He ran off!
Title: Re: Hunting again.....
Post by: Grumpmeister on November 15, 2007, 01:27:26 PM
Tou do seem to have that effect on people Nick  point:
Title: Re: Hunting again.....
Post by: Barman on November 16, 2007, 07:00:24 AM
Growler, I'm full of sympathy for the annoyance we endure at the hands of the premenstrual sex, but how can you blame her for costing you a new tyre when the tyre had a nail in it? That has happened to me twice in the past year, and each time I have handled the situation correctly, but  still had to have the tyre replaced. Modern tyres aren't really made to be repaired, and it is often more cost effective to just get a new one anyway. Besides - would you really feel confident driving on a motorway with a repaired tyre?

It sounds like £90-100 of the money spent was due to your own insistance that you fit a specific, Michelin tyre. £150 sounds inordinately expensive to me - I had a Bridgestone 4x4 tyre replaced on my CRV for just £60. What sort of vehicle are we talking about? A tractor?  ;)

I suspect you're just a bit sick of eachother's shit, which is perfectly understandable after 25 years together.  whistle:
In the UK they always say that the tyre can’t be repaired (generally accompanied by sucking air through teeth and looking at the other three while shaking heads).

Over here they’ll quite happily repair a tyre with a nail in it – I had one done on the Shogun just last week. Take the wheel off, repair puncture, re-balance, new valve, etc. for just £4.  cloud9:
Title: Re: Hunting again.....
Post by: Darwins Selection on November 16, 2007, 08:41:07 AM
Growler, I'm full of sympathy for the annoyance we endure at the hands of the premenstrual sex, but how can you blame her for costing you a new tyre when the tyre had a nail in it? That has happened to me twice in the past year, and each time I have handled the situation correctly, but  still had to have the tyre replaced. Modern tyres aren't really made to be repaired, and it is often more cost effective to just get a new one anyway. Besides - would you really feel confident driving on a motorway with a repaired tyre?

It sounds like £90-100 of the money spent was due to your own insistance that you fit a specific, Michelin tyre. £150 sounds inordinately expensive to me - I had a Bridgestone 4x4 tyre replaced on my CRV for just £60. What sort of vehicle are we talking about? A tractor?  ;)

I suspect you're just a bit sick of eachother's shit, which is perfectly understandable after 25 years together.  whistle:
In the UK they always say that the tyre can’t be repaired (generally accompanied by sucking air through teeth and looking at the other three while shaking heads).

Over here they’ll quite happily repair a tyre with a nail in it – I had one done on the Shogun just last week. Take the wheel off, repair puncture, re-balance, new valve, etc. for just £4.  cloud9:


I also believe that in Cyprus you can also get away with tyres that have the tread painted on and brakes that are OK provided the vehicle will stop before reaching the sea. ::)
Title: Re: Hunting again.....
Post by: Barman on November 16, 2007, 10:17:12 AM
Growler, I'm full of sympathy for the annoyance we endure at the hands of the premenstrual sex, but how can you blame her for costing you a new tyre when the tyre had a nail in it? That has happened to me twice in the past year, and each time I have handled the situation correctly, but  still had to have the tyre replaced. Modern tyres aren't really made to be repaired, and it is often more cost effective to just get a new one anyway. Besides - would you really feel confident driving on a motorway with a repaired tyre?

It sounds like £90-100 of the money spent was due to your own insistance that you fit a specific, Michelin tyre. £150 sounds inordinately expensive to me - I had a Bridgestone 4x4 tyre replaced on my CRV for just £60. What sort of vehicle are we talking about? A tractor?  ;)

I suspect you're just a bit sick of eachother's shit, which is perfectly understandable after 25 years together.  whistle:
In the UK they always say that the tyre can’t be repaired (generally accompanied by sucking air through teeth and looking at the other three while shaking heads).

Over here they’ll quite happily repair a tyre with a nail in it – I had one done on the Shogun just last week. Take the wheel off, repair puncture, re-balance, new valve, etc. for just £4.  cloud9:


I also believe that in Cyprus you can also get away with tyres that have the tread painted on and brakes that are OK provided the vehicle will stop before reaching the sea. ::)
Yes, that too!  cloud9:
Title: Re: Hunting again.....
Post by: Darwins Selection on November 16, 2007, 10:23:00 AM
Growler, I'm full of sympathy for the annoyance we endure at the hands of the premenstrual sex, but how can you blame her for costing you a new tyre when the tyre had a nail in it? That has happened to me twice in the past year, and each time I have handled the situation correctly, but  still had to have the tyre replaced. Modern tyres aren't really made to be repaired, and it is often more cost effective to just get a new one anyway. Besides - would you really feel confident driving on a motorway with a repaired tyre?

It sounds like £90-100 of the money spent was due to your own insistance that you fit a specific, Michelin tyre. £150 sounds inordinately expensive to me - I had a Bridgestone 4x4 tyre replaced on my CRV for just £60. What sort of vehicle are we talking about? A tractor?  ;)

I suspect you're just a bit sick of eachother's shit, which is perfectly understandable after 25 years together.  whistle:
In the UK they always say that the tyre can’t be repaired (generally accompanied by sucking air through teeth and looking at the other three while shaking heads).

Over here they’ll quite happily repair a tyre with a nail in it – I had one done on the Shogun just last week. Take the wheel off, repair puncture, re-balance, new valve, etc. for just £4.  cloud9:


I also believe that in Cyprus you can also get away with tyres that have the tread painted on and brakes that are OK provided the vehicle will stop before reaching the sea. ::)
Yes, that too!  cloud9:
Dropped yer bike yet?
Title: Re: Hunting again.....
Post by: The Moan Ranger on November 16, 2007, 10:52:48 AM
Growler, I'm full of sympathy for the annoyance we endure at the hands of the premenstrual sex, but how can you blame her for costing you a new tyre when the tyre had a nail in it? That has happened to me twice in the past year, and each time I have handled the situation correctly, but  still had to have the tyre replaced. Modern tyres aren't really made to be repaired, and it is often more cost effective to just get a new one anyway. Besides - would you really feel confident driving on a motorway with a repaired tyre?

It sounds like £90-100 of the money spent was due to your own insistance that you fit a specific, Michelin tyre. £150 sounds inordinately expensive to me - I had a Bridgestone 4x4 tyre replaced on my CRV for just £60. What sort of vehicle are we talking about? A tractor?  ;)

I suspect you're just a bit sick of eachother's shit, which is perfectly understandable after 25 years together.  whistle:
In the UK they always say that the tyre can’t be repaired (generally accompanied by sucking air through teeth and looking at the other three while shaking heads).

Over here they’ll quite happily repair a tyre with a nail in it – I had one done on the Shogun just last week. Take the wheel off, repair puncture, re-balance, new valve, etc. for just £4.  cloud9:


I also believe that in Cyprus you can also get away with tyres that have the tread painted on and brakes that are OK provided the vehicle will stop before reaching the sea. ::)
Yes, that too!  cloud9:
Dropped yer bike yet?

Got it over this far yet?

(https://www.virtual-pub.com/SMF/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.postimage.org%2FaV1C_7CJ.jpg&hash=0c66b36bd6e4f00237242b671a506c72b57903d4) (http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=aV1C_7CJ)
Title: Re: Hunting again.....
Post by: Barman on November 16, 2007, 11:53:03 AM
Growler, I'm full of sympathy for the annoyance we endure at the hands of the premenstrual sex, but how can you blame her for costing you a new tyre when the tyre had a nail in it? That has happened to me twice in the past year, and each time I have handled the situation correctly, but  still had to have the tyre replaced. Modern tyres aren't really made to be repaired, and it is often more cost effective to just get a new one anyway. Besides - would you really feel confident driving on a motorway with a repaired tyre?

It sounds like £90-100 of the money spent was due to your own insistance that you fit a specific, Michelin tyre. £150 sounds inordinately expensive to me - I had a Bridgestone 4x4 tyre replaced on my CRV for just £60. What sort of vehicle are we talking about? A tractor?  ;)

I suspect you're just a bit sick of eachother's shit, which is perfectly understandable after 25 years together.  whistle:
In the UK they always say that the tyre can’t be repaired (generally accompanied by sucking air through teeth and looking at the other three while shaking heads).

Over here they’ll quite happily repair a tyre with a nail in it – I had one done on the Shogun just last week. Take the wheel off, repair puncture, re-balance, new valve, etc. for just £4.  cloud9:


I also believe that in Cyprus you can also get away with tyres that have the tread painted on and brakes that are OK provided the vehicle will stop before reaching the sea. ::)
Yes, that too!  cloud9:
Dropped yer bike yet?
Nope!  noooo:
Title: Re: Hunting again.....
Post by: Barman on November 16, 2007, 11:53:36 AM
Growler, I'm full of sympathy for the annoyance we endure at the hands of the premenstrual sex, but how can you blame her for costing you a new tyre when the tyre had a nail in it? That has happened to me twice in the past year, and each time I have handled the situation correctly, but  still had to have the tyre replaced. Modern tyres aren't really made to be repaired, and it is often more cost effective to just get a new one anyway. Besides - would you really feel confident driving on a motorway with a repaired tyre?

It sounds like £90-100 of the money spent was due to your own insistance that you fit a specific, Michelin tyre. £150 sounds inordinately expensive to me - I had a Bridgestone 4x4 tyre replaced on my CRV for just £60. What sort of vehicle are we talking about? A tractor?  ;)

I suspect you're just a bit sick of eachother's shit, which is perfectly understandable after 25 years together.  whistle:
In the UK they always say that the tyre can’t be repaired (generally accompanied by sucking air through teeth and looking at the other three while shaking heads).

Over here they’ll quite happily repair a tyre with a nail in it – I had one done on the Shogun just last week. Take the wheel off, repair puncture, re-balance, new valve, etc. for just £4.  cloud9:


I also believe that in Cyprus you can also get away with tyres that have the tread painted on and brakes that are OK provided the vehicle will stop before reaching the sea. ::)
Yes, that too!  cloud9:
Dropped yer bike yet?

Got it over this far yet?

(https://www.virtual-pub.com/SMF/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.postimage.org%2FaV1C_7CJ.jpg&hash=0c66b36bd6e4f00237242b671a506c72b57903d4) (http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=aV1C_7CJ)

Nope!  noooo:
Title: Re: Hunting again.....
Post by: The Moan Ranger on November 16, 2007, 11:56:57 AM
Mind you, that picture of me was taken at Snetterton and I dare say the track there is somewhat better than the roads in your area...
Title: Re: Hunting again.....
Post by: Barman on November 16, 2007, 12:00:40 PM
Mind you, that picture of me was taken at Snetterton and I dare say the track there is somewhat better than the roads in your area...
Some of the roads here are awesome - especially in the mountains. Miles and miles of smooth twisties with no other traffic around…  cloud9:

Mind you, the roads in the village here closely resemble a ploughed field on field ploughing day – hence the choice of the super motard…  whistle:

I have pictures...  whistle:
Title: Re: Hunting again.....
Post by: The Moan Ranger on November 16, 2007, 12:02:44 PM
A super motard for a baldy retard. How poetic  point:
Title: Re: Hunting again.....
Post by: Barman on November 16, 2007, 12:04:48 PM
A super motard for a baldy retard. How poetic  point:
evil:
Title: Re: Hunting again.....
Post by: Darwins Selection on November 16, 2007, 12:13:07 PM
(https://www.virtual-pub.com/SMF/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.postimage.org%2FaV1C_7CJ.jpg&hash=0c66b36bd6e4f00237242b671a506c72b57903d4) (http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=aV1C_7CJ)

A strange looking picture unless you are a relative of Mrs McCartney?
Title: Re: Hunting again.....
Post by: The Moan Ranger on November 16, 2007, 12:19:36 PM
Is this a reference to seemingly having only one leg, or getting your leg over?
Title: Re: Hunting again.....
Post by: Darwins Selection on November 16, 2007, 12:45:58 PM
Is this a reference to seemingly having only one leg, or getting your leg over?

The former, but if the helmet fits. . .