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A LOTTERY scratchcard has been withdrawn from sale by Camelot - because players couldn't understand it.
The Cool Cash game - launched on Monday - was taken out of shops yesterday after some players failed to grasp whether or not they had won.
To qualify for a prize, users had to scratch away a window to reveal a temperature lower than the figure displayed on each card. As the game had a winter theme, the temperature was usually below freezing.
But the concept of comparing negative numbers proved too difficult for some Camelot received dozens of complaints on the first day from players who could not understand how, for example, -5 is higher than -6.
Tina Farrell, from Levenshulme, called Camelot after failing to win with several cards.
The 23-year-old, who said she had left school without a maths GCSE, said: "On one of my cards it said I had to find temperatures lower than -8. The numbers I uncovered were -6 and -7 so I thought I had won, and so did the woman in the shop. But when she scanned the card the machine said I hadn't.
"I phoned Camelot and they fobbed me off with some story that -6 is higher - not lower - than -8 but I'm not having it.
happy001
What a complete wanker! point:
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A LOTTERY scratchcard has been withdrawn from sale by Camelot - because players couldn't understand it.
The Cool Cash game - launched on Monday - was taken out of shops yesterday after some players failed to grasp whether or not they had won.
To qualify for a prize, users had to scratch away a window to reveal a temperature lower than the figure displayed on each card. As the game had a winter theme, the temperature was usually below freezing.
But the concept of comparing negative numbers proved too difficult for some Camelot received dozens of complaints on the first day from players who could not understand how, for example, -5 is higher than -6.
Tina Farrell, from Levenshulme, called Camelot after failing to win with several cards.
The 23-year-old, who said she had left school without a maths GCSE, said: "On one of my cards it said I had to find temperatures lower than -8. The numbers I uncovered were -6 and -7 so I thought I had won, and so did the woman in the shop. But when she scanned the card the machine said I hadn't.
"I phoned Camelot and they fobbed me off with some story that -6 is higher - not lower - than -8 but I'm not having it.
happy001
What a complete wanker! point:
Agree what a complete and utter tosser but just answer this Mr Barman ,or anybody---- If the temperture was 0 degrees C today and it will be twice as cold tomorrow what will the temperature be ??? whistle:
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A LOTTERY scratchcard has been withdrawn from sale by Camelot - because players couldn't understand it.
The Cool Cash game - launched on Monday - was taken out of shops yesterday after some players failed to grasp whether or not they had won.
To qualify for a prize, users had to scratch away a window to reveal a temperature lower than the figure displayed on each card. As the game had a winter theme, the temperature was usually below freezing.
But the concept of comparing negative numbers proved too difficult for some Camelot received dozens of complaints on the first day from players who could not understand how, for example, -5 is higher than -6.
Tina Farrell, from Levenshulme, called Camelot after failing to win with several cards.
The 23-year-old, who said she had left school without a maths GCSE, said: "On one of my cards it said I had to find temperatures lower than -8. The numbers I uncovered were -6 and -7 so I thought I had won, and so did the woman in the shop. But when she scanned the card the machine said I hadn't.
"I phoned Camelot and they fobbed me off with some story that -6 is higher - not lower - than -8 but I'm not having it.
happy001
What a complete wanker! point:
Agree what a complete and utter tosser but just answer this Mr Barman ,or anybody---- If the temperture was 0 degrees C today and it will be twice as cold tomorrow what will the temperature be ??? whistle:
Well... rubschin:
0ºC is 273.15ºKelvin…
So, if by ‘twice as cold’ you mean 136.575ºKelvin that would be…
-136.575ºC whistle:
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A LOTTERY scratchcard has been withdrawn from sale by Camelot - because players couldn't understand it.
The Cool Cash game - launched on Monday - was taken out of shops yesterday after some players failed to grasp whether or not they had won.
To qualify for a prize, users had to scratch away a window to reveal a temperature lower than the figure displayed on each card. As the game had a winter theme, the temperature was usually below freezing.
But the concept of comparing negative numbers proved too difficult for some Camelot received dozens of complaints on the first day from players who could not understand how, for example, -5 is higher than -6.
Tina Farrell, from Levenshulme, called Camelot after failing to win with several cards.
The 23-year-old, who said she had left school without a maths GCSE, said: "On one of my cards it said I had to find temperatures lower than -8. The numbers I uncovered were -6 and -7 so I thought I had won, and so did the woman in the shop. But when she scanned the card the machine said I hadn't.
"I phoned Camelot and they fobbed me off with some story that -6 is higher - not lower - than -8 but I'm not having it.
happy001
What a complete wanker! point:
Agree what a complete and utter tosser but just answer this Mr Barman ,or anybody---- If the temperture was 0 degrees C today and it will be twice as cold tomorrow what will the temperature be ??? whistle:
Well... rubschin:
0ºC is 273.15ºKelvin…
So, if by ‘twice as cold’ you mean 136.575ºKelvin that would be…
-136.575ºC whistle:
In Centigrade please ::) (clever bar sreward)
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A LOTTERY scratchcard has been withdrawn from sale by Camelot - because players couldn't understand it.
The Cool Cash game - launched on Monday - was taken out of shops yesterday after some players failed to grasp whether or not they had won.
To qualify for a prize, users had to scratch away a window to reveal a temperature lower than the figure displayed on each card. As the game had a winter theme, the temperature was usually below freezing.
But the concept of comparing negative numbers proved too difficult for some Camelot received dozens of complaints on the first day from players who could not understand how, for example, -5 is higher than -6.
Tina Farrell, from Levenshulme, called Camelot after failing to win with several cards.
The 23-year-old, who said she had left school without a maths GCSE, said: "On one of my cards it said I had to find temperatures lower than -8. The numbers I uncovered were -6 and -7 so I thought I had won, and so did the woman in the shop. But when she scanned the card the machine said I hadn't.
"I phoned Camelot and they fobbed me off with some story that -6 is higher - not lower - than -8 but I'm not having it.
happy001
What a complete wanker! point:
Agree what a complete and utter tosser but just answer this Mr Barman ,or anybody---- If the temperture was 0 degrees C today and it will be twice as cold tomorrow what will the temperature be ??? whistle:
Well... rubschin:
0ºC is 273.15ºKelvin…
So, if by ‘twice as cold’ you mean 136.575ºKelvin that would be…
-136.575ºC whistle:
In Centigrade please ::) (clever bar sreward)
-136.575ºC
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WTF you ramblin' on about, oh fishy one.
You've given me a eye bleedin' 'eadache now. evil:
You pissed...AGAIN. You need to try a better brand of meths. ::)
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A LOTTERY scratchcard has been withdrawn from sale by Camelot - because players couldn't understand it.
The Cool Cash game - launched on Monday - was taken out of shops yesterday after some players failed to grasp whether or not they had won.
To qualify for a prize, users had to scratch away a window to reveal a temperature lower than the figure displayed on each card. As the game had a winter theme, the temperature was usually below freezing.
But the concept of comparing negative numbers proved too difficult for some Camelot received dozens of complaints on the first day from players who could not understand how, for example, -5 is higher than -6.
Tina Farrell, from Levenshulme, called Camelot after failing to win with several cards.
The 23-year-old, who said she had left school without a maths GCSE, said: "On one of my cards it said I had to find temperatures lower than -8. The numbers I uncovered were -6 and -7 so I thought I had won, and so did the woman in the shop. But when she scanned the card the machine said I hadn't.
"I phoned Camelot and they fobbed me off with some story that -6 is higher - not lower - than -8 but I'm not having it.
happy001
What a complete wanker! point:
Agree what a complete and utter tosser but just answer this Mr Barman ,or anybody---- If the temperture was 0 degrees C today and it will be twice as cold tomorrow what will the temperature be ??? whistle:
Well... rubschin:
0ºC is 273.15ºKelvin…
So, if by ‘twice as cold’ you mean 136.575ºKelvin that would be…
-136.575ºC whistle:
In Centigrade please ::) (clever bar sreward)
-136.575ºC
Mathamatically double 0 is still fac all point:
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WTF you ramblin' on about, oh fishy one.
You've given me a eye bleedin' 'eadache now. evil:
You pissed...AGAIN. You need to try a better brand of meths. ::)
Well you come up with an answer bear . Bet you thought the stupid chav had won too Banghead point:
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A LOTTERY scratchcard has been withdrawn from sale by Camelot - because players couldn't understand it.
The Cool Cash game - launched on Monday - was taken out of shops yesterday after some players failed to grasp whether or not they had won.
To qualify for a prize, users had to scratch away a window to reveal a temperature lower than the figure displayed on each card. As the game had a winter theme, the temperature was usually below freezing.
But the concept of comparing negative numbers proved too difficult for some Camelot received dozens of complaints on the first day from players who could not understand how, for example, -5 is higher than -6.
Tina Farrell, from Levenshulme, called Camelot after failing to win with several cards.
The 23-year-old, who said she had left school without a maths GCSE, said: "On one of my cards it said I had to find temperatures lower than -8. The numbers I uncovered were -6 and -7 so I thought I had won, and so did the woman in the shop. But when she scanned the card the machine said I hadn't.
"I phoned Camelot and they fobbed me off with some story that -6 is higher - not lower - than -8 but I'm not having it.
happy001
What a complete wanker! point:
Agree what a complete and utter tosser but just answer this Mr Barman ,or anybody---- If the temperture was 0 degrees C today and it will be twice as cold tomorrow what will the temperature be ??? whistle:
Well... rubschin:
0ºC is 273.15ºKelvin…
So, if by ‘twice as cold’ you mean 136.575ºKelvin that would be…
-136.575ºC whistle:
In Centigrade please ::) (clever bar sreward)
-136.575ºC
Mathamatically double 0 is still fac all point:
True. But you didn't ask that did you? point:
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WTF you ramblin' on about, oh fishy one.
You've given me a eye bleedin' 'eadache now. evil:
You pissed...AGAIN. You need to try a better brand of meths. ::)
Well you come up with an answer bear . Bet you thought the stupid chav had won too Banghead point:
Who, what, where , when?
WHAT stupid chav ffs?
You going to the electricians to have your solenoids looked at soon?
I'd have a FULL head re-wire while yer there you dodgy old trout. ::)
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Mrs S has a clutch of O and A levels as well as an Hons degree + various other diploomas etc. She has, because new labour say so, now to obtain a Post Graduate Certificate in Education to teach (something she has been doing for years anyway but now they insist!) So she is doing a two year part time course to teach her how to do what she does anyway. This is her second year and she is now informed that the "rules" (Nu Labour again) say that she has to have an NVQ level 2 in Literacy and numeracy in order to complete her PGCE. Why? Because her A levels (Which include Maths & English) and Degree were gained too many years ago to count!!!!!! BUT not so long ago as to disbar her from taking a Post Graduate course or PHD.
OK she has more patience than me and instead of telling them to stuff it she has enrolled on the course of eight two hour sessions (at her cost and in her time) to gain the NVQ. Last night she attended the first session along with 7 potential class room assistants. None of the others knew what negative numbers were or how to calculate them making the "complaining" non winner no exception. The next thing the tutor asked the class was "How many degrees are there in a straight line?" Once again she was the only one who knew the answer. The other 7 argued that there could not be any degrees in a straight line (for those here who don't know the answer is 180).
At this point and having explained to the rest where they were wrong the tutor asked Mrs S for a "quiet word". Told her that she was "demotivating the others" because she knew all the answers, agreed that it was a bloody insult that she should be expected to attend the lessons and told her he would mark her as present at the remaining 7 sessions and issue her the pass certificate if she would just not bother to attend again. Education standards in this country are now so low that anyone with an old fashioned education is an embarrassment it seems. She puts up with this farce because she has to have the Certificate at the end of it to be able to continue to teach.
The whole thing is a joke. cussing:
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Whilst agreeing that people need to have their heads examined if they cannot cope with negative numbers, I have to take into account the fact that these people are one and the same as those that tend to buy scratch cards.
So the numeracy levels of the target population should have been taken into account, I can't help but think that a similar level of ignorance exists within the highly paid ranks of people whose job it is to think up these wheezes that will only appeal to dullards.
Either that or they are employing questionable tactics or dubious motives.
There are indeed many levels of stupidity.
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You going to the electricians to have your solenoids looked at soon?
I can recommend 'Preparation S' for that.
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WTF you ramblin' on about, oh fishy one.
You've given me a eye bleedin' 'eadache now. evil:
You pissed...AGAIN. You need to try a better brand of meths. ::)
Well you come up with an answer bear . Bet you thought the stupid chav had won too Banghead point:
Who, what, where , when?
WHAT stupid chav ffs?
You going to the electricians to have your solenoids looked at soon?
I'd have a FULL head re-wire while yer there you dodgy old trout. ::)
READ THE OP BEAR FFS Banghead Banghead Banghead Banghead I know scousers are not know for their brilliance but FFS you let the city down . point:
Have you been sniffing summin you shouldn't ?? And I dont mean yer fingers after wiping yer arse lol:
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WTF you ramblin' on about, oh fishy one.
You've given me a eye bleedin' 'eadache now. evil:
You pissed...AGAIN. You need to try a better brand of meths. ::)
Well you come up with an answer bear . Bet you thought the stupid chav had won too Banghead point:
Who, what, where , when?
WHAT stupid chav ffs?
You going to the electricians to have your solenoids looked at soon?
I'd have a FULL head re-wire while yer there you dodgy old trout. ::)
READ THE OP BEAR FFS Banghead Banghead Banghead Banghead I know scousers are not know for their brilliance but FFS you let the city down . point:
Have you been sniffing summin you shouldn't ?? And I dont mean yer fingers after wiping yer arse lol:
Northern trait trouty.
Ask Berek. He like me skips anything that's got more than 2 lines of text in it like, as most of it's shite. ::)
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I initially thought you were talkin' about BM!!! happy001
scared:
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evil:
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evil:
I wasn't thinking that of you. cloud9:
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evil:
I wasn't thinking that of you. cloud9:
Good man... have a smite just in case... whistle:
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The woman is 23 years old, she's more a product of Conservative education policies rather than Labour.
I asked my two 12 year olds if -6 is lower than -8. They got the right answer, no problem, they learnt number lines in primary school. It's certainly not 'O' Level.
"I phoned Camelot and they fobbed me off with some story that -6 is higher - not lower - than -8 but I'm not having it.
I love the "I'm not having it."
happy001
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The woman is 23 years old, she's more a product of Conservative education policies rather than Labour.
I asked my two 12 year olds if -6 is lower than -8. They got the right answer, no problem, they learnt number lines in primary school. It's certainly not 'O' Level.
"I phoned Camelot and they fobbed me off with some story that -6 is higher - not lower - than -8 but I'm not having it.
I love the "I'm not having it."
happy001
That got me too! happy001
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evil:
I wasn't thinking that of you. cloud9:
Good man... have a smite just in case... whistle:
Nice one. evil:
Have one back then....just in case it was missing ALL the others like. cloud9:
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Bugger... Banghead
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Back on topic. whistle: I was looking for an article in the local rag, we had several people here "Win", however the whole lot has vanished from their archives... rubschin: Lucky I printed it out or I would have thought I was imagining things.
My research did bring up a few gems though, and I have to share, especially the last one with some examples of new scratch cards which should be issued. lol:
NATIONAL LOTTERY - COOL CASH
The blurb on the card said if your temperature is lower than today’s temperature then you win the cash amount next to it.
I'm sure all of you know and have played the same type of game card.
- Today’s temperature was 05
- my temperature was 03
And a cash amount of £5,000 was next to the 03 temperature.
Needless to say I said summit like 'ya fucking beauty’. I called the national lottery claim line and said I’ve just won £5,000 on a scratch card can you tell me how to claim. It was then the dude on the phone pointed out the MINUS symbols next to the temperatures numbers - and the card actually works in the opposite way in terms of winning and losing.
So , Despite the card saying you need a lower number to win, you actually need a higher number to win because its a minus number .
Yes ..... the dude said they have had lots of similar calls with people wanting claim forms for cool cash scratch cards .
No point crying over spilt milk etc etc , But somebody at the national lottery needs their balls booted & to be honest it wouldn’t surprise me in the slightest if the game was done this way on purpose just so somebody could get a good laugh at all the dumb sun/mirror readers .
It also means that lots of 'winning' cards will be just chucked away as it’s highly unlikely that any confusion will be one sided.
I guess you cant really blame anybody for having a good laugh at the above - but I cant help but wonder if any chav housing estate scum actually borrowed money from a shylock money lender on the strength on what they thought they had won on a cool cash scratch card .
This has been shamelessly borrowed from another site.http://booktwo.org/
I love the concept.
To qualify for a prize, users had to scratch away a window to reveal a temperature lower than the figure displayed on each card. As the game had a winter theme, the temperature was usually below freezing.
But the concept of comparing negative numbers proved too difficult for some Camelot received dozens of complaints on the first day from players who could not understand how, for example, -5 is higher than -6.
The worst part is that Camelot (the company that runs the Lottery) has withdrawn the scratchcards - effectively admitting that it’s not OK to rip off fools, even in the name of charity.
But as my friend Ed pointed out, they missed a trick here: we need more difficult questions, not fewer ones. Studying should be rewarded. People who worked hard at school should have a better chance of winning a rollover.
In this spirit then, booktwo is proud to put forward its suggestions for new Lottery scratchcards, ones which we believe will do more to improve the nation than all that cash for the Olympics can possibly do. It being booktwo, we obviously had to focus on improving the literacy rates among British lottery players, so here goes:
(https://www.virtual-pub.com/SMF/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fbooktwo.org%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2007%2F11%2Fspell2win.jpg&hash=f9d6c43775301b19e4a9828c595403c98ef5e4de)
(https://www.virtual-pub.com/SMF/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fbooktwo.org%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2007%2F11%2Fpunctuation-rules.jpg&hash=976009a13da3db942fd8c9692f93f91cf9c8948b)
(https://www.virtual-pub.com/SMF/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fbooktwo.org%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2007%2F11%2Fgrammar-grab.jpg&hash=554e15b2b86fb88ff3402ed5aa5dcb3a3bb1c061)
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Crikey!! you lot are so bloody clever, you know all about numbers and stuff
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Mrs S has a clutch of O and A levels as well as an Hons degree + various other diploomas etc. She has, because new labour say so, now to obtain a Post Graduate Certificate in Education to teach (something she has been doing for years anyway but now they insist!) So she is doing a two year part time course to teach her how to do what she does anyway. This is her second year and she is now informed that the "rules" (Nu Labour again) say that she has to have an NVQ level 2 in Literacy and numeracy in order to complete her PGCE. Why? Because her A levels (Which include Maths & English) and Degree were gained too many years ago to count!!!!!! BUT not so long ago as to disbar her from taking a Post Graduate course or PHD.
OK she has more patience than me and instead of telling them to stuff it she has enrolled on the course of eight two hour sessions (at her cost and in her time) to gain the NVQ. Last night she attended the first session along with 7 potential class room assistants. None of the others knew what negative numbers were or how to calculate them making the "complaining" non winner no exception. The next thing the tutor asked the class was "How many degrees are there in a straight line?" Once again she was the only one who knew the answer. The other 7 argued that there could not be any degrees in a straight line (for those here who don't know the answer is 180).
At this point and having explained to the rest where they were wrong the tutor asked Mrs S for a "quiet word". Told her that she was "demotivating the others" because she knew all the answers, agreed that it was a bloody insult that she should be expected to attend the lessons and told her he would mark her as present at the remaining 7 sessions and issue her the pass certificate if she would just not bother to attend again. Education standards in this country are now so low that anyone with an old fashioned education is an embarrassment it seems. She puts up with this farce because she has to have the Certificate at the end of it to be able to continue to teach.
The whole thing is a joke. cussing:
Before leaving the UK for sunnier climbs, I tutored in a Learning Centre where I worked with a number of prospective Teacher's assistants who needed to re-do English & Maths at L2. They took the National Test in Literacy & also the one in Numeracy... quick assessment, brush up course for weaker areas, then the exam at Level 2... done in a couple of weeks during school holidays. Has Mrs S looked into that route? Might be the same for PGCE...I'm not sure. Feel free to PM me if any links required!!! ;D
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Thanks Tinks but the route described is the only one available in this area at this time.
Had her course been told about this earlier they would have had more options but N Wales is the back end of nowhere really so choice is limited.
It is still a bloody cheek to ask anyone with a honours degree from a British University to undertake an NVQ in Literacy and Numeracy.
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The woman is 23 years old, she's more a product of Conservative education policies rather than Labour.
What a load of rot! I'm one of that generation and no one I know has those sorts of problems!
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What about the ones you don't know? And anyway, you probably went to the East Cheam High School for Swotty Girls. ;)
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I fear she did scared2:
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I didn't, I was in foreign land at an international school. So there!
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Que?
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Exactamundo!