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Title: Vi$ta is Shite
Post by: Barman on December 23, 2007, 10:03:20 AM
End of.  Banghead
Title: Re: Vi$ta is Shite
Post by: Snoopy on December 23, 2007, 10:11:31 AM
Fair 'Nuff ~ thought it might be.(https://www.virtual-pub.com/SMF/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.freesmileys.org%2Fsmileys%2Fcomputer011.gif&hash=2e2415d6000f50f73a993a1cbacdf5b33e1fd4b2)
Title: Re: Vi$ta is Shite
Post by: Barman on January 11, 2008, 11:53:56 AM
(https://www.virtual-pub.com/SMF/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.freesmileys.org%2Fsmileys%2Fangry049.gif&hash=4dbe9d6c307df7145709fb7f7fc0c816010e7bd2) (http://www.freesmileys.org) It really is complete shite! (https://www.virtual-pub.com/SMF/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.freesmileys.org%2Fsmileys%2Fangry049.gif&hash=4dbe9d6c307df7145709fb7f7fc0c816010e7bd2) (http://www.freesmileys.org)
Title: Re: Vi$ta is Shite
Post by: Snoopy on January 11, 2008, 11:55:54 AM
(https://www.virtual-pub.com/SMF/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.freesmileys.org%2Fsmileys%2Fangry049.gif&hash=4dbe9d6c307df7145709fb7f7fc0c816010e7bd2) (http://www.freesmileys.org) It really is complete shite! (https://www.virtual-pub.com/SMF/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.freesmileys.org%2Fsmileys%2Fangry049.gif&hash=4dbe9d6c307df7145709fb7f7fc0c816010e7bd2) (http://www.freesmileys.org)

Oh Dear ~ another crash?
Title: Re: Vi$ta is Shite
Post by: Barman on January 11, 2008, 11:58:08 AM
Not a crash as such but everything it does is incompetent… and slow…

Am downgrading this machine to XP over the weekend…  cloud9:
Title: Re: Vi$ta is Shite
Post by: Snoopy on January 11, 2008, 12:03:16 PM
Ah! I see ...... I am seriously thinking about saving up and switching to a Mac just to get away from MSoft however apart from the cost they seem a bit "poncey" if you know what I mean ......... and I'd have to learn all sorts of new stuff to get the value out of it. It is a worry  scared2:
Title: Re: Vi$ta is Shite
Post by: Barman on January 11, 2008, 12:19:17 PM
I really think linux is the way forward...
Title: Re: Vi$ta is Shite
Post by: Barman on January 11, 2008, 12:23:21 PM
Ah! I see ...... I am seriously thinking about saving up and switching to a Mac just to get away from MSoft however apart from the cost they seem a bit "poncey" if you know what I mean ......... and I'd have to learn all sorts of new stuff to get the value out of it. It is a worry  scared2:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PADkpyVWAwQ
Title: Re: Vi$ta is Shite
Post by: Snoopy on January 11, 2008, 12:25:42 PM
Precisely
Title: Re: Vi$ta is Shite
Post by: TG on January 11, 2008, 12:31:55 PM
Not a crash as such but everything it does is incompetent… and slow…

Am downgrading this machine to XP over the weekend…  cloud9:

Cant network it to the Vic20 then?  point:

Seriously though, I have it on a desktop PC at work that works fine. I installed Vista as an upgrade from XP and it was indeed shite. However, after reformatting the PC and doing a cold install it was and is, fine. I also have it preloaded on a new laptop at home and it also fine.

Also, i took said laptop away with me over the new year, we were told there was no internet connection so I downloaded various web pages about things to see and do. When I switched it on it automatically picked up and unsecured wireless connection without being asked to. Which was nice of it.

Its amazing how much porn you can download in a week.

Maybe you should stop fiddling about with it?  eyes:

Title: Re: Vi$ta is Shite
Post by: Barman on January 11, 2008, 12:38:44 PM
I find it unbelievably slow (it is a dual-core 3GHz Pentium with 2Gbytes RAM) compared to my old XP system.

Displaying photographs takes forever. Once I’ve viewed the photo library I can’t remove the icons from the toolbar or click on other toolbar applications (I have to Alt+Tab). After about half an hour the icons close and I can return to normal.

IE often hangs.

Yesterday it was downloading an update. I turned my back for a second and the bastard thing had rebooted losing all my work.

It keeps asking me if I am sure about stuff.

Even as an administrator it won’t let me do some things.

It will map a network storage device as a remote drive but won’t do it again after a re-boot. I have to disconnect the drive then reconnect.

I have customers that simply can’t connect Vi$ta boxes to wireless routers that happily accept other systems.

Utter, utter shite.

 Banghead
Title: Re: Vi$ta is Shite
Post by: The Moan Ranger on January 14, 2008, 05:46:31 PM
Boss at work's home PC went bang at the weekend - it was quite old, so he bought a new one, with Vista installed.

Trying to install his mail accounts and drivers for the printer/scanner/mobile etc. failed spectactularly - his language today would have made a docker blush.

I offered to sell him a XP installation disk - he is seriously considering it!
Title: Re: Vi$ta is Shite
Post by: Grumpmeister on January 24, 2008, 07:02:17 PM
I find it unbelievably slow (it is a dual-core 3GHz Pentium with 2Gbytes RAM) compared to my old XP system.

Displaying photographs takes forever. Once I’ve viewed the photo library I can’t remove the icons from the toolbar or click on other toolbar applications (I have to Alt+Tab). After about half an hour the icons close and I can return to normal.

IE often hangs.

Yesterday it was downloading an update. I turned my back for a second and the bastard thing had rebooted losing all my work.

It keeps asking me if I am sure about stuff.

Even as an administrator it won’t let me do some things.

It will map a network storage device as a remote drive but won’t do it again after a re-boot. I have to disconnect the drive then reconnect.

I have customers that simply can’t connect Vi$ta boxes to wireless routers that happily accept other systems.

Utter, utter shite.

 Banghead

As far as I can tell the reason Vista runs so much slower is that although its designed to use more RAM than XP was 2GB is the minimum requirement to get it to do anything more rapidly than a snail on speed going up the side of Everest.

The inability to connect to wireless routers etc I would suspect is driver related (although I have no doubt that if you rang the Microsoft help line it would more likely be drivel related)

As for it not letting you do certain tasks, its paranoid and knows that you will wipe it as soon as you can.
Title: Re: Vi$ta is Shite
Post by: Barman on January 24, 2008, 08:25:24 PM
I find it unbelievably slow (it is a dual-core 3GHz Pentium with 2Gbytes RAM) compared to my old XP system.

Displaying photographs takes forever. Once I’ve viewed the photo library I can’t remove the icons from the toolbar or click on other toolbar applications (I have to Alt+Tab). After about half an hour the icons close and I can return to normal.

IE often hangs.

Yesterday it was downloading an update. I turned my back for a second and the bastard thing had rebooted losing all my work.

It keeps asking me if I am sure about stuff.

Even as an administrator it won’t let me do some things.

It will map a network storage device as a remote drive but won’t do it again after a re-boot. I have to disconnect the drive then reconnect.

I have customers that simply can’t connect Vi$ta boxes to wireless routers that happily accept other systems.

Utter, utter shite.

 Banghead

As far as I can tell the reason Vista runs so much slower is that although its designed to use more RAM than XP was 2GB is the minimum requirement to get it to do anything more rapidly than a snail on speed going up the side of Everest.

The inability to connect to wireless routers etc I would suspect is driver related (although I have no doubt that if you rang the Microsoft help line it would more likely be drivel related)

As for it not letting you do certain tasks, its paranoid and knows that you will wipe it as soon as you can.
Wiped... Back to XP  cloud9:
Title: Re: Vi$ta is Shite
Post by: The Moan Ranger on January 27, 2008, 03:53:48 PM
New laptop for daughter. With Vista.

Wireless router.

Much swearing. Bastards.
Title: Re: Vi$ta is Shite
Post by: Snoopy on January 27, 2008, 04:07:15 PM
And I thought you were "in the trade".



















Just a thought ~ not full of sailor's addresses is it?
Title: Re: Vi$ta is Shite
Post by: Barman on January 27, 2008, 05:04:02 PM
New laptop for daughter. With Vista.

Wireless router.

Much swearing. Bastards.
I had a customer with the same problem – they had to remove the ‘easy wifi’ or some other such shite software that was supposed to make connecting a piece of piss…  noooo:
Title: Re: Vi$ta is Shite
Post by: Just One More on January 27, 2008, 06:50:01 PM
New laptop for daughter. With Vista.

Wireless router.

Much swearing. Bastards.

Couldn't you have just got her "Tiny Tears" or a "Barbie doll"?
Title: Re: Vi$ta is Shite
Post by: Snoopy on January 27, 2008, 07:12:33 PM
New laptop for daughter. With Vista.

Wireless router.

Much swearing. Bastards.

Couldn't you have just got her "Tiny Tears" or a "Barbie doll"?

He would have but there was this car with MOD number plates and on the back seat ..........................
Title: Re: Vi$ta is Shite
Post by: The Moan Ranger on January 27, 2008, 07:38:41 PM
Networked XP is what I work with. We won't touch Vista for at least three years. And I won't be there anyway!
Title: Re: Vi$ta is Shite
Post by: Just One More on August 30, 2008, 08:17:42 AM
I've been looking online at laptops this morning and I know that there are places where I can still get XP. I know next to f-all about PC's, so... there appear to be more than a few on here that know far more than I'll ever know about PC's etc, therefore, eight months on from the last post, have opinions changed about Vista?
Title: Re: Vi$ta is Shite
Post by: Barman on August 30, 2008, 08:20:59 AM
I've been looking online at laptops this morning and I know that there are places where I can still get XP. I know next to f-all about PC's, so... there appear to be more than a few on here that know far more than I'll ever know about PC's etc, therefore, eight months on from the last post, have opinions changed about Vista?
Snoopy is pleased with it... but then he has just bought a laptop pre-loaded with linux...  rubschin:
Title: Re: Vi$ta is Shite
Post by: Grumpmeister on August 30, 2008, 08:36:38 AM
It looks pretty, lets you have more memory & has DX10 but to run it properly you need a fairly hefty system as its a hell of a resource hog.
Title: Re: Vi$ta is Shite
Post by: Snoopy on August 30, 2008, 09:27:00 AM
And that about sums it up.

Vi$ta ~ for my purposes has been fine, it comes with a lot of crap that I shall never use and I am slowly deleting these bits and pieces, slowly because so much of Vi$ta is interwoven that you dare not just zap things. It is self diagnosing and self repairing in the main so, from time to time, it fails and then goes into a lot of clicking & whirring whilst I just sit and look at a sign that says, in effect "Do nothing you moron, we are working to solve a problem that you never even knew you had" ~ eventually it says "OK we've done our best, now carry on and fvck it up again" and I lay my hands on the keyboard again. M/Soft do seem to issue an awful lot of "updates" most of them marked critical and as GM says these do take up a fair amount of space so whatever you buy get one with loads of memory and a huge hard drive.
As for my "Toy" laptop running Linux. It was £70+ quid cheaper with Linux than with XP. Very small machine with correspondingly small memory and hard drive. No use at all for downloading music, films or games. Has no CD Drive etc ~ such things have to be purchased as add on, stand free attachments ~ strange because it comes ready loaded but with a 2 disk "recovery" system  rubschin:. For the purpose purchased (Communication when away from home and keeping of notes whilst researching historic facts) it is more than adequate. Anything more and I suspect I would be soon cursing the lack of memory and space. To be honest for the use I intend it a decent notebook, a biro and a mobile phone would have done as well but we live in an age of gadgets and this was one I couldn't resist, despite my having a mobile that doesn't take pictures. For that I have a camera. "Sooooooooooo last century" according to my daughter. ::)
Title: Re: Vi$ta is Shite
Post by: TG on October 29, 2008, 05:45:26 PM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7695933.stm

 rubschin:

Title: Re: Vi$ta is Shite
Post by: GROWLER on October 29, 2008, 05:48:56 PM
Not a crash as such but everything it does is incompetent… and slow…

Am downgrading this machine to XP over the weekend…  cloud9:

I'm having a brand new legit version of XP installed next week, as this  rubschin: ....'copy' that someone installed for me is also shite.
heard that much bad news about Vista, I decided to give it a wide berth.

Title: Re: Vi$ta is Shite
Post by: Barman on October 29, 2008, 05:52:46 PM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7695933.stm

 rubschin:


Nothing about it being faster or gobbling less processor time tho...  noooo:
Title: Re: Vi$ta is Shite
Post by: Grumpmeister on October 29, 2008, 06:14:34 PM
I have a sneaky suspicion that Windows 7 is actually the final build of Vista with all the extra functions originally intended for the Operating System and we've just been debugging the bloody thing for them.

Curiosity got the better of me again a couple of weeks back and I tried to install vista on my machine only to be told that it couldnt find my SATA drives and so couldnt install them. If you couldnt find them then why the hell were they displaying in the hard drive list on the install screen?
Title: Re: Vi$ta is Shite
Post by: Nick on October 29, 2008, 08:57:32 PM
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it couldnt find my SATA drives and so couldnt install them


I can't find mine either.Do you have them?
Title: Re: Vi$ta is Shite
Post by: Barman on October 30, 2008, 06:26:23 AM
I have a sneaky suspicion that Windows 7 is actually the final build of Vista with all the extra functions originally intended for the Operating System and we've just been debugging the bloody thing for them.

Curiosity got the better of me again a couple of weeks back and I tried to install vista on my machine only to be told that it couldnt find my SATA drives and so couldnt install them. If you couldnt find them then why the hell were they displaying in the hard drive list on the install screen?
I think linux is catching up all the time...

I just plugged in a laptop yesterday with linux on it... After downloading a load of updates I see that LinDVD (as opposed to WinDVD) is now included along with loads of other free software...

Unless Micro$oft pull their finger out and start to optimise their core code it will be a no-brainer soon...