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Come Inside... => The Commons => Topic started by: Barman on January 12, 2008, 08:11:29 AM
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Ghana's High Commissioner in London has appealed to Britain to reverse its decision to fly a terminally ill woman back to the African country.
Ama Sumani was taken from a Cardiff hospital on Wednesday where she has been receiving dialysis after cancer damaged her kidneys.
Source (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/7184359.stm)
Has the country gone completely, utterly stark raving bonkers?
I can see what is going to happen here – they will fly this poor woman back to the UK, re-home her, give her free treatment for the rest of her days and then (according to her last washes no doubt), fly her remains ‘home’ to Ghana.
Call me a heartless bastard if you will but the woman was in the UK illegally and surely has no rights to any NHS treatment? If Ghana's High Commissioner in London thinks this is a special case then let him put his hand in his pocket and pick up the $2,000 a month that it will cost to treat her.
The UK government not only flew her back to Ghana at taxpayer’s expense but then offered to pay the first three month’s treatment in Ghana ($6,000) out of UK taxpayer’s contributions.
The Commons home affairs committee says it intends questioning the head of the Border and Immigration Service, Lin Homer, about Mrs Sumani's deportation.
Committee chairman Keith Vaz described the deportation decision as "astonishing".
"We hope to hear a full explanation from Lin Homer about this extraordinary decision. Of course there have to be rules governing the right to remain in this country," Mr Vaz said.
Mr. Vaz, the astonishing thing is that the woman was allowed to stay in the UK after her visa expired, that’s the astonishing thing. She was in the UK illegally, presumably claiming benefits and yet was able to get free treatment on the NHS!
I can’t get free NHS treatment as an expat yet I paid tax and national insurance in the UK for twenty-five years, my father fought for the country for cod’s sake, my mother serviced army trucks during the war! Yet arrive illegally in the UK and they throw everything at you.
Utter, utter bastards!
Rant over… I feel better now.
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There's your answer BM, apply for Cypiot citizenship and then sneak back into the UK for treatment.
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I can’t get free NHS treatment as an expat yet I paid tax and national insurance in the UK for twenty-five years, my father fought for the country for cod’s sake, my mother serviced army trucks during the war! Yet arrive illegally in the UK and they throw everything at you.
Why not? Mother Wench does?
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I can’t get free NHS treatment as an expat yet I paid tax and national insurance in the UK for twenty-five years, my father fought for the country for cod’s sake, my mother serviced army trucks during the war! Yet arrive illegally in the UK and they throw everything at you.
Why not? Mother Wench does?
Not legally I think you’ll find… noooo:
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You perhaps cannot pop over for some procedure because you fancy the idea but if taken ill whilst in the UK you would qualify for free NHS treatment. Every other bugger does so why not you? rubschin:
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You perhaps cannot pop over for some procedure because you fancy the idea but if taken ill whilst in the UK you would qualify for free NHS treatment. Every other bugger does so why not you? rubschin:
I know people from here that have been refused…
Also, my sister works in a doctor’s surgery. They have an official sign above reception which reads something along the lines of: -
Asylum Seekers Queue Here
Expats Fuck Off
cussing:
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OK ~ You can still be treated as a "visitor" ~ anyway you are part of the EU now so get a Cypriot Passport and wave that whilst talking like Stavros from the Kebab shop.
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Just an observation but given the current state of the NHS would you even want treatment Barman?
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OK ~ You can still be treated as a "visitor" ~ anyway you are part of the EU now so get a Cypriot Passport and wave that whilst talking like Stavros from the Kebab shop.
Yes, I suppose I should have equal rights to any other EU citizen now we are in…
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Just an observation but given the current state of the NHS would you even want treatment Barman?
True... but not the point really! cussing:
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Dead.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/7305963.stm
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I will not claim to feel that I have lost a friend. The whole thing was predictable and, on this as on so many other occasions, the Government's behaviour could at best be described as shameful.
Meanwhile they continue to provide the very best of care free of all charges to no end of unentitled foreigners in our over crowded prisons. If this woman had got herself locked up for an attempted armed robbery she would be alive today. It makes no sense to me that they insisted that she had to return 'home' whilst they keep these criminals, at our expense, for years and then fail to deport them at the end of their sentences. They should simply flog them and throw them out of the UK the day they are found guilty.
Reading William Cobbett's "Rural Rides" he makes exactly the same comment about conditions in the early 1800s. People starving and dieing for want of sensible government care, indeed Cobbett contends as "a result of Government actions", whilst those in prison enjoyed 3 square meals a day and free medical treatment.
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Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose confused:
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I will not claim to feel that I have lost a friend. The whole thing was predictable and, on this as on so many other occasions, the Government's behaviour could at best be described as shameful.
Meanwhile they continue to provide the very best of care free of all charges to no end of unentitled foreigners in our over crowded prisons. If this woman had got herself locked up for an attempted armed robbery she would be alive today. It makes no sense to me that they insisted that she had to return 'home' whilst they keep these criminals, at our expense, for years and then fail to deport them at the end of their sentences. They should simply flog them and throw them out of the UK the day they are found guilty.
Reading William Cobbett's "Rural Rides" he makes exactly the same comment about conditions in the early 1800s. People starving and dieing for want of sensible government care, indeed Cobbett contends as "a result of Government actions", whilst those in prison enjoyed 3 square meals a day and free medical treatment.
I agree with you really, the whole thing is a farce…
However, I was incensed this morning to hear a member of the ‘Ghanaian Community’ in Wales saying that she should have been allowed to stay and have her treatment paid for… If you are such a close knit ‘Ghanaian Community’ why couldn’t you stump-up the cash for her treatment back in her own country?
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However, I was incensed this morning to hear a member of the ‘Ghanaian Community’ in Wales saying that she should have been allowed to stay and have her treatment paid for… If you are such a close knit ‘Ghanaian Community’ why couldn’t you stump-up the cash for her treatment back in her own country?
They [Friends & Family] had also raised more than £70,000 from donations to pay for drugs which were not available in her home country.
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However, I was incensed this morning to hear a member of the ‘Ghanaian Community’ in Wales saying that she should have been allowed to stay and have her treatment paid for… If you are such a close knit ‘Ghanaian Community’ why couldn’t you stump-up the cash for her treatment back in her own country?
They [Friends & Family] had also raised more than £70,000 from donations to pay for drugs which were not available in her home country.
Why did she pop her clogs then?
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I will not claim to feel that I have lost a friend. The whole thing was predictable and, on this as on so many other occasions, the Government's behaviour could at best be described as shameful.
Meanwhile they continue to provide the very best of care free of all charges to no end of unentitled foreigners in our over crowded prisons. If this woman had got herself locked up for an attempted armed robbery she would be alive today. It makes no sense to me that they insisted that she had to return 'home' whilst they keep these criminals, at our expense, for years and then fail to deport them at the end of their sentences. They should simply flog them and throw them out of the UK the day they are found guilty.
Reading William Cobbett's "Rural Rides" he makes exactly the same comment about conditions in the early 1800s. People starving and dieing for want of sensible government care, indeed Cobbett contends as "a result of Government actions", whilst those in prison enjoyed 3 square meals a day and free medical treatment.
I agree with you really, the whole thing is a farce…
However, I was incensed this morning to hear a member of the ‘Ghanaian Community’ in Wales saying that she should have been allowed to stay and have her treatment paid for… If you are such a close knit ‘Ghanaian Community’ why couldn’t you stump-up the cash for her treatment back in her own country?
I think they tried, as Uncle Mort shows, but the interuption of treatment was too much to expect recovery from.
The point is she was here legally when she became ill and her treatment on the NHS started but when her visa ran out they came over all "Hard hearted" and sent her home. I am sure there will be those who say "Tough luck" and I wouldn't be so annoyed by it all if only "they" were even handed in the way they treat people.
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We welcome in with open arms the sponging scum who go straight on to benefits but refuse to help both those who have fought for this country and those who are genuinely in desperate need of help.
While I am normally dead against compensation culture there is a part of me that hopes her family take it into their heads to try and sue the government as losing money seems to be the only thing that these useless grapsng bastards seem to understand