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Title: Folic Acid to be added to bread
Post by: Barman on May 17, 2007, 07:34:18 AM
For some reason this has really annoyed me this morning. I can?t find today?s story but this is from last week.

Quote from: BBC Web Site
The UK's official food watchdog is backing the mandatory fortification of flour with folic acid to reduce birth defects such as spina bifida

Source (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/6648059.stm)

The FSA has now decided that Folic Acid will be added to bread to reduce neural tube defects in babies. Apparently, women attempting to get pregnant ignore the advice to take folic acid and half of pregnancies are unplanned anyway. The solution ? force everybody to take folic acid.

I can?t help but think in five years time the headline will be ?Folic Acid causes Pilsbury Syndrome? or some such and it will be removed again.

Whatever ? it is surely a slippery slope to mass medication and I?m not sure that it?s a good thing.
Title: Re: Folic Acid to be added to bread
Post by: Bar Wench on May 17, 2007, 07:44:10 AM
I was interested in the fact that they only intend to put it in white bread. Says it all really about the sort of person they believe takes risks about this sort of thing. It would appear that if you eat granary/wholemeal etc then you are a responsible woman who will take folic acid anyway! Another case of nannyism for those who can't be trusted to think for themselves. If they can't get it together to deal with these things then FFS insit on the sodding implants to stop them getting up the spout in the first place!
Title: Re: Folic Acid to be added to bread
Post by: Darwins Selection on May 17, 2007, 07:48:38 AM
I was interested in the fact that they only intend to put it in white bread. Says it all really about the sort of person they believe takes risks about this sort of thing. It would appear that if you eat granary/wholemeal etc then you are a responsible woman who will take folic acid anyway! Another case of nannyism for those who can't be trusted to think for themselves. If they can't get it together to deal with these things then FFS insit on the sodding implants to stop them getting up the spout in the first place!
Indeed.

I am in favour of putting contraceptives in Turkey Twizzlers by the same reasoning.

(Obviously I don't mean condoms ::))
Title: Re: Folic Acid to be added to bread
Post by: Bar Wench on May 17, 2007, 07:50:27 AM
 lol: lol: lol:
Title: Re: Folic Acid to be added to bread
Post by: Barman on May 17, 2007, 07:51:53 AM
I was interested in the fact that they only intend to put it in white bread. Says it all really about the sort of person they believe takes risks about this sort of thing. It would appear that if you eat granary/wholemeal etc then you are a responsible woman who will take folic acid anyway! Another case of nannyism for those who can't be trusted to think for themselves. If they can't get it together to deal with these things then FFS insit on the sodding implants to stop them getting up the spout in the first place!
Yes, quite bizarre nanny stateism ? it really could be an April 1st story couldn?t it?

And why is it going to add 2p to a loaf of bread FFS?  ::)
Title: Re: Folic Acid to be added to bread
Post by: Bar Wench on May 17, 2007, 07:54:02 AM
Because folic acid isn't cheap! Have you seen the price of a bottle of the bloody stuff!
Title: Re: Folic Acid to be added to bread
Post by: Barman on May 17, 2007, 08:06:01 AM
Because folic acid isn't cheap! Have you seen the price of a bottle of the bloody stuff!
I doubt that the average bakery will be popping down to Boots to buy a little bottle and grind the pills up tho.  ::)
Title: Re: Folic Acid to be added to bread
Post by: Bar Wench on May 17, 2007, 08:06:22 AM
True but even so.  redface:
Title: Re: Folic Acid to be added to bread
Post by: Barman on May 17, 2007, 08:08:09 AM
True but even so.  redface:
Even so... what?  char090
Title: Re: Folic Acid to be added to bread
Post by: Bar Wench on May 17, 2007, 08:09:07 AM
It is still "added value" and as such the price is bound to increase. It's like you don't get a donut with sprinkles for the same price as a plain donut. The sprinkles are "added value".  ::)
Title: Re: Folic Acid to be added to bread
Post by: Nick on May 17, 2007, 09:23:19 AM
I heard about this on the radio earlier. It is to prevent kids being born with spina bifida, amongst other things. How many? 250 a year, IIRC. OK. So why do I have to take it too? And everyone who has finished having kids or doesn't want to have them in the first place.

Mass medication. I can, though, see the argument for fluoridation of water, since we ALL have teeth (as far as I know)
Title: Re: Folic Acid to be added to bread
Post by: Snoopy on May 17, 2007, 09:33:25 AM
They intend to put it in the flour ~ so home bread makers like us will be caught too!
Plus those who do not eat bread but eat cakes, pies, anything that requires flour unless it is wholemeal ~ note wholemeal not brown bread. Brown bread and for that matter most supermarket wholemeal is made with flour that is "cut" with plain white flour anyway. Very few bakers use 100% whole meal flour.
Christ on a bike! I beginning to sound like Squidward! What have you done to me? scared2:
Title: Re: Folic Acid to be added to bread
Post by: Nick on May 17, 2007, 09:35:58 AM
I make a lot of Spelt Bread at present, and use Spelt flour for other things too (will bring a fruit loaf when I visit), wonder if they are bunging it in all types of flour. Rye, for example.
Title: Re: Folic Acid to be added to bread
Post by: Darwins Selection on May 17, 2007, 09:36:04 AM
Mass medication. I ca, though, see the argument for fluoridation of water, since we ALL have teeth (as far as I know)
What about putting TB vaccine in bread (or Yams or Chapatis) would that be beneficial as we 'locals' all get the BCG jab?

Putting Ritalin or Cyanide in Special Brew would also get my vote.
Title: Re: Folic Acid to be added to bread
Post by: Nick on May 17, 2007, 09:37:00 AM
 ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Folic Acid to be added to bread
Post by: Darwins Selection on May 17, 2007, 09:37:41 AM
Spelt Bread and Spelt flour
B R E A D and F L O U R.  ::)
Title: Re: Folic Acid to be added to bread
Post by: Nick on May 17, 2007, 09:42:42 AM
http://www.pacificbakery.com/spelt.htm (http://www.pacificbakery.com/spelt.htm)

 Banghead
Title: Re: Folic Acid to be added to bread
Post by: Uncle Mort on May 17, 2007, 09:49:33 AM
It's spelt flour but how is it pronounced?
Title: Re: Folic Acid to be added to bread
Post by: Bar Wench on May 17, 2007, 09:50:04 AM
 Banghead
Title: Re: Folic Acid to be added to bread
Post by: Uncle Mort on May 17, 2007, 09:56:54 AM
What?
Title: Re: Folic Acid to be added to bread
Post by: Barman on May 17, 2007, 10:16:16 AM
It is still "added value" and as such the price is bound to increase. It's like you don't get a donut with sprinkles for the same price as a plain donut. The sprinkles are "added value".  ::)
Yes, but 2p per loaf ? bollocks to that.  noooo:

And the difference is that if I choose to buy an ice cream and fancy sprinkles or a choc-flake thingy that is my choice and its fair that I should pay extra for it. I don?t see why the person in the queue behind me should pay more too?

It is basically a tax ? compulsory medication tax ? and I can?t believe that the tiny amounts they?ll be adding will cost 2p.
Title: Re: Folic Acid to be added to bread
Post by: Pastis on May 17, 2007, 10:16:51 AM
The sprinkles are "added value".  ::)

Sprinkles eeek: I thought they were called "hundreds & thousands". When did they change their name and why? noooo:
Title: Re: Folic Acid to be added to bread
Post by: Snoopy on May 17, 2007, 10:23:37 AM
It's an attempt to Americanise the English Language ..... I blame Bill Gates and the Simpsons.
My kids call them "Sprinkles" and will not accept that the things in packs from Sainsburys are "Hundreds and Thousands" despite what it says on the packet.
Title: Re: Folic Acid to be added to bread
Post by: Nick on May 17, 2007, 10:25:05 AM
Quote
I blame Bill Gates and the Simpsons

Add Dubya and you have the predicament of British Culture in a nutshell!

(not life - chavs etc are our own fault -  somehow)
Title: Re: Folic Acid to be added to bread
Post by: Bar Wench on May 17, 2007, 10:25:20 AM
Actually in my house they are called piecey tops.  redface:
Title: Re: Folic Acid to be added to bread
Post by: Barman on May 17, 2007, 10:26:07 AM
Actually in my house they are called piecey tops.  redface:
piecey tops!  point:
Title: Re: Folic Acid to be added to bread
Post by: Snoopy on May 17, 2007, 10:27:10 AM
Actually in my house they are called piecey tops.  redface:
piecey tops!  point:
happy001
Title: Re: Folic Acid to be added to bread
Post by: Nick on May 17, 2007, 10:28:11 AM
I concur happy001
Title: Re: Folic Acid to be added to bread
Post by: Bar Wench on May 17, 2007, 10:30:48 AM
I know.  redface: It's a childhood thing. For years my Brother and I didn't actually realise there was another name for them.
Title: Re: Folic Acid to be added to bread
Post by: Misunderstood on May 17, 2007, 10:32:10 AM
 ::)
Title: Re: Folic Acid to be added to bread
Post by: Barman on May 17, 2007, 10:32:17 AM
I know.  redface: It's a childhood thing. For years my Brother and I didn't actually realise there was another name for them.
Do you do wee-wee and poo-poo as well?  happy001
Title: Re: Folic Acid to be added to bread
Post by: Snoopy on May 17, 2007, 10:51:24 AM
I know.  redface: It's a childhood thing. For years my Brother and I didn't actually realise there was another name for them.

Bless! sad24:
Title: Re: Folic Acid to be added to bread
Post by: Bar Wench on May 17, 2007, 10:53:10 AM
For that I won't tell you the humiliating story of the Haggis Bird then.


<stomps off in a strop>
Title: Re: Folic Acid to be added to bread
Post by: jeremy on May 17, 2007, 12:05:12 PM
For that I won't tell you the humiliating story of the Haggis Bird then.


<stomps off in a strop>

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjxY9rZwNGU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjxY9rZwNGU)

   whistle:
Title: Re: Folic Acid to be added to bread
Post by: Bar Wench on May 17, 2007, 12:06:50 PM
You are smote!  sleep017
Title: Re: Folic Acid to be added to bread
Post by: Barman on May 17, 2007, 12:24:48 PM
You are smote!  sleep017
Women know your limits  point:
Title: Re: Folic Acid to be added to bread
Post by: Darwins Selection on May 17, 2007, 12:36:06 PM
It's an attempt to Americanise the English Language ..... I blame Bill Gates and the Simpsons.
My kids call them "Sprinkles" and will not accept that the things in packs from Sainsburys are "Hundreds and Thousands" despite what it says on the packet.
We used to have a Tom Cat called 'Sprinkles'. whistle:
Title: Re: Folic Acid to be added to bread
Post by: Snoopy on May 17, 2007, 12:38:30 PM
Thank You ~ I think we can work out why. sick2: