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Title: Couldnt they have learned from the first time it happened?
Post by: Grumpmeister on February 20, 2008, 10:08:21 AM
For crying out loud, surely the fact that this scum had already escaped once while being taken to the hospital would have meant that stronger security arrangements would be arranged. But no, that would be far too sensible.

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New CCTV images of a convicted rapist who escaped from a hospital have been released in the hope they will lead to information about his whereabouts.
The images show Terrence O'Keefe, 39, being escorted through King's College Hospital in London, where he fled from last Friday.

He had been taken from a secure unit at Lambeth Hospital to receive treatment.

O'Keefe had escaped from King's hospital before in 2005, when he made his way to Liverpool.

'Potential threat'

They have described O'Keefe, who has a potentially life-threatening condition, as "an extremely dangerous man" and urge members of the public to call the police if they see him.

Det Steve Miles, from Lambeth Police, said: "The picture we have issued is a recent one and shows a good likeness, which has already prompted calls from the public.

"Hopefully these new images will help generate information that leads to his whereabouts.

"We have a dedicated team of officers searching for him and are treating his escape extremely seriously due to the potential threat he poses to the public."

South London and Maudsley NHS Foundation Trust (SLaM), which runs Lambeth, said O'Keefe had been escorted by mental health professionals 24 hours a day.

The trust is now reviewing procedures as part of an inquiry into the escape, which happened at about 1400 GMT on Friday.

O'Keefe is a light-skinned black man, last seen wearing a green fleece jumper, black jeans and tan-coloured boots.

Merseyside Police have joined the Metropolitan Police to search for O'Keefe.
Title: Re: Couldnt they have learned from the first time it happened?
Post by: Snoopy on February 20, 2008, 10:14:57 AM
It's 'is 'uman right to escape innit. Can't cuff 'im to a bed or anyfink cos the Doctors don't like it and report you.
Title: Re: Couldnt they have learned from the first time it happened?
Post by: Grumpmeister on February 20, 2008, 10:18:19 AM
Given the cost of transporting these animals wouldnt it be cheaper and safer to just have a decently equipped med centre in the prison that a doctor could come in and use when needed that they could be treated in without risking them escaping or am I just being far too sensible here.
Title: Re: Couldnt they have learned from the first time it happened?
Post by: Snoopy on February 20, 2008, 10:33:33 AM
Given the cost of transporting these animals wouldnt it be cheaper and safer to just have a decently equipped med centre in the prison that a doctor could come in and use when needed that they could be treated in without risking them escaping or am I just being far too sensible here.


Far too sensible and dare I say "old fashioned". That is how it used to be before the bean-counters and the "rights" brigade got at the system. Most prisons still have a "Hospital" wing but these are staffed by a nurse/orderly. Doctors "visit" as required but many GPs do not like doing such visits (just as many dislike being "Police Surgeons" and refuse to go to the nick if asked). For specialist treatment hospital is the only option and the authoritities live in fear of some scrote being really ill or even dying due to a "lack of care" being provided so they err on the side of caution. Hospital visits are apparently a daily routine.
Ex Son in Law is a Prison Officer and told me these things so I have to believe them to be true.
I have to agree that, having escaped once, the authorities should have been more aware but when the woolley minded, young Asian doctors object to the presence of a burly warder attached by steel handcuffs to the patient during treatment there is not much they can do. (Back to 'is 'uman right to privacy etc)
The other problems are costs and manpower shortages.
Title: Re: Couldnt they have learned from the first time it happened?
Post by: Grumpmeister on February 20, 2008, 10:34:52 AM
That part is easy enough, the givenment just has to force a clause into doctors contracts which means they have to treat prisoners on site when needed.
Title: Re: Couldnt they have learned from the first time it happened?
Post by: Barman on February 20, 2008, 10:45:04 AM
I would have thought that the lethal injection that he deserved could have been given just as easily in prison…  whistle:
Title: Re: Couldnt they have learned from the first time it happened?
Post by: Snoopy on February 20, 2008, 10:46:55 AM
That part is easy enough, the givenment just has to force a clause into doctors contracts which means they have to treat prisoners on site when needed.


Nice idea but they can't even get the b@st@rds to work on a Saturday morning despite paying them £120k pa (average GPs wage). My GP makes available 14 appointments a day (mornings only) each of 7 minutes duration (some over run). Monday to Friday. He is in the surgery from 0900 to 12.00. No appointments are prebookable ..... so if you phone in the morning and that day's allocation has gone you have to phone again tomorrow. His afternoons are spent playing golf, drinking at the only local pub from which he is not banned or in the arms of his mistress. His evenings he earns twice as much as his salary working as a locum for a private out of hours service. 30 hours locum work a month pays him almost double his regular salary ..... his figures not mine. So his income is roughly £360k per annum for 114 hours PER MONTH.
Do not talk to me about GP contracts evil:
Title: Re: Couldnt they have learned from the first time it happened?
Post by: Nick on February 20, 2008, 10:47:47 AM
That part is easy enough, the givenment just has to force a clause into doctors contracts which means they have to treat prisoners on site when needed.


Nice idea but they can't even get the b@st@rds to work on a Saturday morning despite paying them £120k pa (average GPs wage). My GP makes available 14 appointments a day (mornings only) each of 7 minutes duration (some over run). Monday to Friday. He is in the surgery from 0900 to 12.00. No appointments are prebookable ..... so if you phone in the morning and that day's allocation has gone you have to phone again tomorrow. His afternoons are spent playing golf, drinking at the only local pub from which he is not banned or in the arms of his mistress. His evenings he earns twice as much as his salary working as a locum for a private out of hours service. 30 hours locum work a month pays him almost double his regular salary ..... his figures not mine. So his income is roughly £360k per annum for 114 hours PER MONTH.
Do not talk to me about GP contracts evil:

Nice work if you can get it!!
Title: Re: Couldnt they have learned from the first time it happened?
Post by: Snoopy on February 20, 2008, 10:49:43 AM
That part is easy enough, the givenment just has to force a clause into doctors contracts which means they have to treat prisoners on site when needed.


Nice idea but they can't even get the b@st@rds to work on a Saturday morning despite paying them £120k pa (average GPs wage). My GP makes available 14 appointments a day (mornings only) each of 7 minutes duration (some over run). Monday to Friday. He is in the surgery from 0900 to 12.00. No appointments are prebookable ..... so if you phone in the morning and that day's allocation has gone you have to phone again tomorrow. His afternoons are spent playing golf, drinking at the only local pub from which he is not banned or in the arms of his mistress. His evenings he earns twice as much as his salary working as a locum for a private out of hours service. 30 hours locum work a month pays him almost double his regular salary ..... his figures not mine. So his income is roughly £360k per annum for 114 hours PER MONTH.
Do not talk to me about GP contracts evil:

Nice work if you can get it!!


Yes! Why the F*** didn't I listen to my Dad? Be a Doctor, A Vicar or a Lawyer he said .... either way you'll never need to work hard and you'll always have beef on the table.
Title: Re: Couldnt they have learned from the first time it happened?
Post by: Barman on February 20, 2008, 10:52:50 AM
That part is easy enough, the givenment just has to force a clause into doctors contracts which means they have to treat prisoners on site when needed.


Nice idea but they can't even get the b@st@rds to work on a Saturday morning despite paying them £120k pa (average GPs wage). My GP makes available 14 appointments a day (mornings only) each of 7 minutes duration (some over run). Monday to Friday. He is in the surgery from 0900 to 12.00. No appointments are prebookable ..... so if you phone in the morning and that day's allocation has gone you have to phone again tomorrow. His afternoons are spent playing golf, drinking at the only local pub from which he is not banned or in the arms of his mistress. His evenings he earns twice as much as his salary working as a locum for a private out of hours service. 30 hours locum work a month pays him almost double his regular salary ..... his figures not mine. So his income is roughly £360k per annum for 114 hours PER MONTH.
Do not talk to me about GP contracts evil:

Nice work if you can get it!!


Yes! Why the F*** didn't I listen to my Dad? Be a Doctor, A Vicar or a Lawyer he said .... either way you'll never need to work hard and you'll always have beef on the table.
Or a gynaecologist…  eyes:







You’d always have fish on the table then.
Title: Re: Couldnt they have learned from the first time it happened?
Post by: Marley's Ghost (Imbiber of Spirits) on February 20, 2008, 10:56:47 AM
That part is easy enough, the givenment just has to force a clause into doctors contracts which means they have to treat prisoners on site when needed.


Nice idea but they can't even get the b@st@rds to work on a Saturday morning despite paying them £120k pa (average GPs wage). My GP makes available 14 appointments a day (mornings only) each of 7 minutes duration (some over run). Monday to Friday. He is in the surgery from 0900 to 12.00. No appointments are prebookable ..... so if you phone in the morning and that day's allocation has gone you have to phone again tomorrow. His afternoons are spent playing golf, drinking at the only local pub from which he is not banned or in the arms of his mistress. His evenings he earns twice as much as his salary working as a locum for a private out of hours service. 30 hours locum work a month pays him almost double his regular salary ..... his figures not mine. So his income is roughly £360k per annum for 114 hours PER MONTH.
Do not talk to me about GP contracts evil:

Nice work if you can get it!!


Yes! Why the F*** didn't I listen to my Dad? Be a Doctor, A Vicar or a Lawyer he said .... either way you'll never need to work hard and you'll always have beef on the table.
Or a gynaecologist…  eyes:







You’d always have fish on the table then.

Alternatively, go for the vicar route - plenty of pork about - or so I'm told!
Title: Re: Couldnt they have learned from the first time it happened?
Post by: Snoopy on February 20, 2008, 11:55:58 AM
That part is easy enough, the givenment just has to force a clause into doctors contracts which means they have to treat prisoners on site when needed.


Nice idea but they can't even get the b@st@rds to work on a Saturday morning despite paying them £120k pa (average GPs wage). My GP makes available 14 appointments a day (mornings only) each of 7 minutes duration (some over run). Monday to Friday. He is in the surgery from 0900 to 12.00. No appointments are prebookable ..... so if you phone in the morning and that day's allocation has gone you have to phone again tomorrow. His afternoons are spent playing golf, drinking at the only local pub from which he is not banned or in the arms of his mistress. His evenings he earns twice as much as his salary working as a locum for a private out of hours service. 30 hours locum work a month pays him almost double his regular salary ..... his figures not mine. So his income is roughly £360k per annum for 114 hours PER MONTH.
Do not talk to me about GP contracts evil:

Nice work if you can get it!!


Yes! Why the F*** didn't I listen to my Dad? Be a Doctor, A Vicar or a Lawyer he said .... either way you'll never need to work hard and you'll always have beef on the table.
Or a gynaecologist…  eyes:







You’d always have fish on the table then.


I was a postman for 6 years ........................................ Think about it. lol:
Title: Re: Couldnt they have learned from the first time it happened?
Post by: Darwins Selection on February 20, 2008, 08:49:30 PM
That part is easy enough, the givenment just has to force a clause into doctors contracts which means they have to treat prisoners on site when needed.


Nice idea but they can't even get the b@st@rds to work on a Saturday morning despite paying them £120k pa (average GPs wage). My GP makes available 14 appointments a day (mornings only) each of 7 minutes duration (some over run). Monday to Friday. He is in the surgery from 0900 to 12.00. No appointments are prebookable ..... so if you phone in the morning and that day's allocation has gone you have to phone again tomorrow. His afternoons are spent playing golf, drinking at the only local pub from which he is not banned or in the arms of his mistress. His evenings he earns twice as much as his salary working as a locum for a private out of hours service. 30 hours locum work a month pays him almost double his regular salary ..... his figures not mine. So his income is roughly £360k per annum for 114 hours PER MONTH.
Do not talk to me about GP contracts evil:

Nice work if you can get it!!


Yes! Why the F*** didn't I listen to my Dad? Be a Doctor, A Vicar or a Lawyer he said .... either way you'll never need to work hard and you'll always have beef on the table.
Or a gynaecologist…  eyes:







You’d always have fish on the table then.


I was a postman for 6 years ........................................ Think about it. lol:

Were you not a training to be a gynaecologist as well, or were you just looking into it as a career option?
Title: Re: Couldnt they have learned from the first time it happened?
Post by: Snoopy on February 21, 2008, 10:26:51 AM
That part is easy enough, the givenment just has to force a clause into doctors contracts which means they have to treat prisoners on site when needed.


Nice idea but they can't even get the b@st@rds to work on a Saturday morning despite paying them £120k pa (average GPs wage). My GP makes available 14 appointments a day (mornings only) each of 7 minutes duration (some over run). Monday to Friday. He is in the surgery from 0900 to 12.00. No appointments are prebookable ..... so if you phone in the morning and that day's allocation has gone you have to phone again tomorrow. His afternoons are spent playing golf, drinking at the only local pub from which he is not banned or in the arms of his mistress. His evenings he earns twice as much as his salary working as a locum for a private out of hours service. 30 hours locum work a month pays him almost double his regular salary ..... his figures not mine. So his income is roughly £360k per annum for 114 hours PER MONTH.
Do not talk to me about GP contracts evil:

Nice work if you can get it!!


Yes! Why the F*** didn't I listen to my Dad? Be a Doctor, A Vicar or a Lawyer he said .... either way you'll never need to work hard and you'll always have beef on the table.
Or a gynaecologist…  eyes:







You’d always have fish on the table then.


I was a postman for 6 years ........................................ Think about it. lol:

Were you not a training to be a gynaecologist as well, or were you just looking into it as a career option?

The view is much the same.
Title: Re: Couldnt they have learned from the first time it happened?
Post by: Barman on February 21, 2008, 01:20:53 PM
That part is easy enough, the givenment just has to force a clause into doctors contracts which means they have to treat prisoners on site when needed.


Nice idea but they can't even get the b@st@rds to work on a Saturday morning despite paying them £120k pa (average GPs wage). My GP makes available 14 appointments a day (mornings only) each of 7 minutes duration (some over run). Monday to Friday. He is in the surgery from 0900 to 12.00. No appointments are prebookable ..... so if you phone in the morning and that day's allocation has gone you have to phone again tomorrow. His afternoons are spent playing golf, drinking at the only local pub from which he is not banned or in the arms of his mistress. His evenings he earns twice as much as his salary working as a locum for a private out of hours service. 30 hours locum work a month pays him almost double his regular salary ..... his figures not mine. So his income is roughly £360k per annum for 114 hours PER MONTH.
Do not talk to me about GP contracts evil:

Nice work if you can get it!!


Yes! Why the F*** didn't I listen to my Dad? Be a Doctor, A Vicar or a Lawyer he said .... either way you'll never need to work hard and you'll always have beef on the table.
Or a gynaecologist…  eyes:







You’d always have fish on the table then.


I was a postman for 6 years ........................................ Think about it. lol:

Were you not a training to be a gynaecologist as well, or were you just looking into it as a career option?

The view is much the same.
;D