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Title: Vi$ta is Shite #2
Post by: TG on February 26, 2008, 09:54:13 PM
Vista service pack 1 is about to be released Barman. Your problems may be about to solved or made a lot worse.

I know a bloke who has installed the beta version and says the results are favourable.

We shall see.  scared2:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7205059.stm
Title: Re: Vi$ta is Shite #2
Post by: Barman on February 27, 2008, 07:18:37 AM
Vista service pack 1 is about to be released Barman. Your problems may be about to solved or made a lot worse.

I know a bloke who has installed the beta version and says the results are favourable.

We shall see.  scared2:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7205059.stm
Vi$ta has been banished from my network!  happy088
Title: Re: Vi$ta is Shite #2
Post by: TG on February 27, 2008, 08:30:46 AM
Oh ye of little faith.  noooo:
Title: Re: Vi$ta is Shite #2
Post by: Barman on February 27, 2008, 09:14:11 AM
Oh ye of little faith.  noooo:
XP is much better (based on my experience)... linux is better still...  ;)
Title: Re: Vi$ta is Shite #2
Post by: Grumpmeister on February 27, 2008, 09:17:32 AM
I have to admit I did acquire a copy of Vista just to see if it was worth me getting a legitimate copy and in ite defence I would say its far more secure than XP.

Mainly because it wont let yo do anything. The reason they called it Vista is that most of the time all you can do is look at the pretty desktop because its decided you arent authorised/intelligent enoug or are Nick  Banghead

I do like the hacker community though, the main reason microsoft has been banging out Vista to the gaming community is because of DX10 and saying that their new games like Halo 2 and Shadowrun need Vista to run as a result. The hackers have already back engineered the fixes proving that Microsoft are just money grabbing buggers blagging to the more gullible members of the gaming community.
Title: Re: Vi$ta is Shite #2
Post by: tel on February 27, 2008, 09:24:43 AM
There is a lot of software that won't run if you install SP1 - MS have a list somewhere. There are some benefits, such as slightly quicker file transfer but overall Vista is still a crock of crap. Corporates are still avoiding it and trying to stay with XP.
Still I probably won't be having to face this problem soon.
Title: Re: Vi$ta is Shite #2
Post by: Grumpmeister on February 27, 2008, 09:28:23 AM
There is a lot of software that won't run if you install SP1 - MS have a list somewhere. There are some benefits, such as slightly quicker file transfer but overall Vista is still a crock of crap. Corporates are still avoiding it and trying to stay with XP.
Still I probably won't be having to face this problem soon.

I seem to remember a similar problem with the early version of SP2 for XP.
Title: Re: Vi$ta is Shite #2
Post by: Barman on February 27, 2008, 09:32:39 AM
There is a lot of software that won't run if you install SP1 - MS have a list somewhere. There are some benefits, such as slightly quicker file transfer but overall Vista is still a crock of crap. Corporates are still avoiding it and trying to stay with XP.
Still I probably won't be having to face this problem soon.

I seem to remember a similar problem with the early version of SP2 for XP.

SP2 was huge - how big is the Vi$ta SP1?
Title: Re: Vi$ta is Shite #2
Post by: Snoopy on February 27, 2008, 09:39:18 AM
There is a lot of software that won't run if you install SP1 - MS have a list somewhere. There are some benefits, such as slightly quicker file transfer but overall Vista is still a crock of crap. Corporates are still avoiding it and trying to stay with XP.
Still I probably won't be having to face this problem soon.

I seem to remember a similar problem with the early version of SP2 for XP.

SP2 was huge - how big is the Vi$ta SP1?

SP2 was the start of all my problems with the now disposed of DELL.
Title: Re: Vi$ta is Shite #2
Post by: Barman on February 27, 2008, 09:40:18 AM
There is a lot of software that won't run if you install SP1 - MS have a list somewhere. There are some benefits, such as slightly quicker file transfer but overall Vista is still a crock of crap. Corporates are still avoiding it and trying to stay with XP.
Still I probably won't be having to face this problem soon.

I seem to remember a similar problem with the early version of SP2 for XP.

SP2 was huge - how big is the Vi$ta SP1?

SP2 was the start of all my problems with the now disposed of DELL.
No, buying a Dell was the start of all your problems with the now disposed of DELL.  point:
Title: Re: Vi$ta is Shite #2
Post by: Grumpmeister on February 27, 2008, 09:41:06 AM
Probably even bigger. Remember Microsoft's Law, any new operating system will need to be completely 'repacked' if purchased in the first 5 years after the initial release.



I'm guessing you had the original vesion of SP2 then Snoop. Either that or Dell buggered up the original install and recovey disks.
Title: Re: Vi$ta is Shite #2
Post by: tel on February 27, 2008, 09:41:53 AM
See KB article for software clashes caused by SP1 - http://support.microsoft.com/kb/935796

XP SP3 is due for release shortly.

Title: Re: Vi$ta is Shite #2
Post by: Barman on February 27, 2008, 09:42:58 AM
See KB article for software clashes caused by SP1 - http://support.microsoft.com/kb/935796

XP SP3 is due for release shortly.


Bastards!  Banghead

That'll make XP even slower! I'm sure they add a load of NOPs to it in every 'update'...  cussing:
Title: Re: Vi$ta is Shite #2
Post by: Grumpmeister on February 27, 2008, 09:44:25 AM
See KB article for software clashes caused by SP1 - http://support.microsoft.com/kb/935796

XP SP3 is due for release shortly.



There is a rumour that SP3 will give XP a lot of the Vista functionality  scared2:
Title: Re: Vi$ta is Shite #2
Post by: Barman on February 27, 2008, 09:44:52 AM
See KB article for software clashes caused by SP1 - http://support.microsoft.com/kb/935796

XP SP3 is due for release shortly.



There is a rumour that SP3 will give XP a lot of the Vista functionality  scared2:
Oh fuck!  Banghead
Title: Re: Vi$ta is Shite #2
Post by: Grumpmeister on February 27, 2008, 09:46:09 AM
So I'm going to let them install it at work first then decide if its safe to use  8)
Title: Re: Vi$ta is Shite #2
Post by: Barman on February 27, 2008, 09:55:11 AM
So I'm going to let them install it at work first then decide if its safe to use  8)
And I'll let you install it and see if it is safe for me to use...  cool14:
Title: Re: Vi$ta is Shite #2
Post by: Snoopy on February 27, 2008, 10:00:53 AM
 rubschin: P'raps I should save up and buy a Mac.
Title: Re: Vi$ta is Shite #2
Post by: Grumpmeister on February 27, 2008, 10:01:30 AM
Just been looking at the list of programs affected by SP1, anyone else notice a theme here:

BitDefender AV
Fujitsu Shock Sensor
Jiangmin KV Antivirus 10
Jiangmin KV Antivirus 2008
Trend Micro Internet Security
Zone Alarm Security Suite
Iron Speed Designer
Xheo Licensing
Free Allegiance
NYT Reader
Rising Personal Firewall
Novell ZCM Agent

So internet security, firewall and antivirus programs are hit. Wonder if that is just coincidence or do Microsoft want their users running their security sofrware  rubschin:
Title: Re: Vi$ta is Shite #2
Post by: Bar Wench on February 27, 2008, 10:02:53 AM
rubschin: P'raps I should save up and buy a Mac.

I'm considering that at the moment.
Title: Re: Vi$ta is Shite #2
Post by: Snoopy on February 27, 2008, 10:06:10 AM
rubschin: P'raps I should save up and buy a Mac.

I'm considering that at the moment.


BUT you're looking at 5 times the price.
As Dippy would have said "Eyewatering"
Title: Re: Vi$ta is Shite #2
Post by: TG on February 27, 2008, 10:15:35 AM
There is a lot of software that won't run if you install SP1 - MS have a list somewhere. There are some benefits, such as slightly quicker file transfer but overall Vista is still a crock of crap. Corporates are still avoiding it and trying to stay with XP.
Still I probably won't be having to face this problem soon.

I seem to remember a similar problem with the early version of SP2 for XP.

SP2 was huge - how big is the Vi$ta SP1?

I've heard about 600Mb so you will have to crank up the laggy band internet connection.
Title: Re: Vi$ta is Shite #2
Post by: Grumpmeister on February 27, 2008, 10:17:08 AM
bugger that, do it the easy way and just grab a computing magazine when it gives it as a cover disk.
Title: Re: Vi$ta is Shite #2
Post by: tel on February 27, 2008, 10:21:02 AM
Microsoft went trhough a phase of not allowing mags to publish thier s/ware on cd/dvd - PCPro use to have all the SPs and all the other bits and pieces from MS but then were blocked.
Title: Re: Vi$ta is Shite #2
Post by: TG on February 27, 2008, 10:27:54 AM
XP SP3 details download from : http://tinyurl.com/2denpw
Title: Re: Vi$ta is Shite #2
Post by: tel on February 27, 2008, 11:20:07 AM
Could cost a whole lot more now.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/7266629.stm
Title: Re: Vi$ta is Shite #2
Post by: TG on March 19, 2008, 03:44:35 PM
I have just started the download of Vista SP1 on to this PC.  scared2:
Title: Re: Vi$ta is Shite #2
Post by: Barman on March 19, 2008, 03:47:35 PM
I have just started the download of Vista SP1 on to this PC.  scared2:
Bye bye...  noooo:
Title: Re: Vi$ta is Shite #2
Post by: TG on March 19, 2008, 03:48:38 PM
I have just started the download of Vista SP1 on to this PC.  scared2:
Bye bye...  noooo:

I aint doing on my home PC!

Maybe I'll be able to see Google ads on that one.  rubschin:
Title: Re: Vi$ta is Shite #2
Post by: Barman on March 19, 2008, 03:51:49 PM
I have just started the download of Vista SP1 on to this PC.  scared2:
Bye bye...  noooo:

I aint doing on my home PC!

Maybe I'll be able to see Google ads on that one.  rubschin:
They're fantastic!  cloud9:
Title: Re: Vi$ta is Shite #2
Post by: TG on March 19, 2008, 03:53:18 PM
Snoops. Keep your eye on your PC, the service pack is now part of windows update and might try and fvck you up install itself while you aint looking.
Title: Re: Vi$ta is Shite #2
Post by: Darwins Selection on March 19, 2008, 03:53:29 PM
I have just started the download of Vista SP1 on to this PC.  scared2:
Bye bye...  noooo:

I aint doing on my home PC!

Maybe I'll be able to see Google ads on that one.  rubschin:
They're fantastic!  cloud9:


http://www.mypos.co.uk/?gclid=COTcrufDmZICFQNFMAodfiUI7w (http://www.mypos.co.uk/?gclid=COTcrufDmZICFQNFMAodfiUI7w)

 ::) ::) ::)

All I could ever want
Title: Re: Vi$ta is Shite #2
Post by: TG on March 19, 2008, 03:53:48 PM
I have just started the download of Vista SP1 on to this PC.  scared2:
Bye bye...  noooo:

I aint doing on my home PC!

Maybe I'll be able to see Google ads on that one.  rubschin:
They're fantastic!  cloud9:

I wouldnt know.
Title: Re: Vi$ta is Shite #2
Post by: Barman on March 19, 2008, 03:54:28 PM
I have just started the download of Vista SP1 on to this PC.  scared2:
Bye bye...  noooo:

I aint doing on my home PC!

Maybe I'll be able to see Google ads on that one.  rubschin:
They're fantastic!  cloud9:

I wouldnt know.
You will soon!  cussing:
Title: Re: Vi$ta is Shite #2
Post by: TG on March 19, 2008, 03:55:48 PM
I have just started the download of Vista SP1 on to this PC.  scared2:
Bye bye...  noooo:

I aint doing on my home PC!

Maybe I'll be able to see Google ads on that one.  rubschin:
They're fantastic!  cloud9:

I wouldnt know.
You will soon!  cussing:

I hope so. I feel all left out.  sad24:
Title: Re: Vi$ta is Shite #2
Post by: TG on March 19, 2008, 03:58:03 PM
Vista update update : Bloody slow download. Everybody and his anty must be at it. May have to leave this overnight.  noooo:
Title: Re: Vi$ta is Shite #2
Post by: Barman on March 19, 2008, 03:59:38 PM
Vista update update : Bloody slow download. Everybody and his anty must be at it. May have to leave this overnight.  noooo:
How big is it?
Title: Re: Vi$ta is Shite #2
Post by: TG on March 19, 2008, 04:00:33 PM
First chunk is 66meg. About another 450 to follow I think.
Title: Re: Vi$ta is Shite #2
Post by: Barman on March 19, 2008, 04:01:30 PM
First chunk is 66meg. About another 450 to follow I think.
While you are waiting, go and log-on somewhere else and enjoy the ads...  whistle:
Title: Re: Vi$ta is Shite #2
Post by: TG on March 19, 2008, 04:05:58 PM
First chunk is 66meg. About another 450 to follow I think.
While you are waiting, go and log-on somewhere else and enjoy the ads...  whistle:

On this PC I have logged in using Safari, IE8, Firefox 3 beta 4. No ads.

I'm on a network behind a hardware firewall, could that be it? Or is it a lets piss off TG day?  evil:
Title: Re: Vi$ta is Shite #2
Post by: Barman on March 19, 2008, 04:26:48 PM
First chunk is 66meg. About another 450 to follow I think.
While you are waiting, go and log-on somewhere else and enjoy the ads...  whistle:

On this PC I have logged in using Safari, IE8, Firefox 3 beta 4. No ads.

I'm on a network behind a hardware firewall, could that be it? Or is it a lets piss off TG day?  evil:
I suspect it is the firewall although mine doesn't block them...  noooo:

Wait 'til you get home - there will be squillions of ads all waiting for you...  cloud9:
Title: Re: Vi$ta is Shite #2
Post by: TG on March 19, 2008, 04:28:08 PM
First chunk is 66meg. About another 450 to follow I think.
While you are waiting, go and log-on somewhere else and enjoy the ads...  whistle:

On this PC I have logged in using Safari, IE8, Firefox 3 beta 4. No ads.

I'm on a network behind a hardware firewall, could that be it? Or is it a lets piss off TG day?  evil:
I suspect it is the firewall although mine doesn't block them...  noooo:

Wait 'til you get home - there will be squillions of ads all waiting for you...  cloud9:

Ok.

Here we go. Installing now.
Title: Re: Vi$ta is Shite #2
Post by: Barman on March 19, 2008, 04:29:43 PM
First chunk is 66meg. About another 450 to follow I think.
While you are waiting, go and log-on somewhere else and enjoy the ads...  whistle:

On this PC I have logged in using Safari, IE8, Firefox 3 beta 4. No ads.

I'm on a network behind a hardware firewall, could that be it? Or is it a lets piss off TG day?  evil:
I suspect it is the firewall although mine doesn't block them...  noooo:

Wait 'til you get home - there will be squillions of ads all waiting for you...  cloud9:

Ok.

Here we go. Installing now.
Eeeek!  scared2:
Title: Re: Vi$ta is Shite #2
Post by: Grumpmeister on March 19, 2008, 06:25:17 PM
If XP SP2 was anything to go by when it first came out Vista SP1 will gloss over fix a whole host of issues with the OS by creating a load of new ones.