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Title: Gordon ~ You poor deluded fool ~ I feel almost sorry for you
Post by: Snoopy on July 10, 2008, 09:03:04 AM
So Gordon Brown thinks he is an older, wiser version of Heathcliffe.

Well ~
leaving aside the glossy romantic hero image fostered, incorrectly, by a number of Hollywood movies and by Cliff Richard in a musical over the years those that have read Bronte's novel Wuthering Heights will be aware that Heathcliff is a foul tempered control freak, close to insanity, who dug up his lover's remains. He was a domestic abuser, brooding, sulky and utterly ruthless in his pursuit of his desires. He may also have been a murderer (but the reader is left to deduce this).

The poor, sad, deluded man in Number Ten is much more like Macbeth, dithering, incompetent, pussy whipped, confused, insanely jealous of his betters and totally unable to accept his own destiny as, at best, second place in the kingdom.

Oh and Heathcliffe was from Yorkshire, Macbeth from Scotland.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/labour/2276428/Gordon-Brown-%27I%27m-just-like-brooding-Emily-Bronte-character-Heathcliff%27.html
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Post by: Bar Wench on July 10, 2008, 09:34:20 AM
Heathcliffe may have been all that but he was soooo swoony.  cloud9:
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Post by: Nick on July 10, 2008, 09:41:05 AM
 rubschin:

Worrying
Title: Re: Gordon ~ You poor deluded fool ~ I feel almost sorry for you
Post by: Nick on July 10, 2008, 11:13:06 AM
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In Wuthering Heights, published in 1847, Heathcliff is an embittered figure who treats most others with cruelty and contempt.



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Title: Re: Gordon ~ You poor deluded fool ~ I feel almost sorry for you
Post by: Snoopy on July 10, 2008, 11:17:40 AM
Clearly Broon has not read the bloody book ~ prolly only seen the movies. ::)
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Post by: Nick on July 10, 2008, 11:20:23 AM
I haven't read it for years (1975 in fact) , but Heathcliff always seemed like a nasty piece of work to me
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Post by: Snoopy on July 10, 2008, 11:28:35 AM
I haven't read it for years (1975 in fact) , but Heathcliff always seemed like a nasty piece of work to me

I blame Laurence Olivier .... he had to make Heathcliffe the attractive hero in the film because he was too far up his own arse to be willing to play the character as written. Nevertheless it would be nice if the man in charge had read the book or better yet kept his mouth shut on a subject that he knew nothing about. Unlike Blair he keeps on handing out ammunition to the press.
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Post by: Nick on July 10, 2008, 11:40:37 AM
I am not sure that Heathcliff has an e at the end  rubschin:
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Post by: Snoopy on July 10, 2008, 11:45:34 AM
I'm sure you are right. Depends where you look. I hedged my bets in the op by using both. Wenchy elected to go with the e ~ but let's not get hung up in pedantry .... the PM has made an arse of himself again. If you read the report by the actual interviewer in the New Statesman it strongly suggests that he led Brown straight into the trap.
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Post by: Bar Wench on July 10, 2008, 11:49:43 AM
I think you are right actually.  rubschin:

Heathcliff is a bastard yes however, I think one of the reasons why he is attractive to women is because of the overwhelming love he felt for Catherine. Although he was a malevolent man what woman wouldn't want to be loved with such a total all consuming passion?
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Post by: Nick on July 10, 2008, 11:50:59 AM
Mrs Nick #1 was called Catherine.  sad24: sad24: sad24:

And she loved that book  sad24: sad24: sad24:
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Post by: Bar Wench on July 10, 2008, 11:55:00 AM
It's a fab book. One of my favorites too.
Title: Re: Gordon ~ You poor deluded fool ~ I feel almost sorry for you
Post by: Nick on July 10, 2008, 11:57:47 AM
I see you favour American spellings too!
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Post by: Bar Wench on July 10, 2008, 12:12:56 PM
That is what three years in an american school during your formative years will do to you. Both I and Brother Wench have problems in that area. I also pronounce some words strangely thanks to that time too.
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Post by: Nick on July 10, 2008, 12:16:15 PM
What words?
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Post by: Bar Wench on July 10, 2008, 12:22:04 PM
All those that have americanised spelling possibilities. I don't know what they are until someone points them out to me as to me I am spelling them normally.

I can't remember which ones I say strangely as I only really notice when someone points them out. The one most people think is odd and comment most on though is the way I say only. Instead of saying ownly I sort of slur it and say ounly. It is difficult to demonstrate without the possibility of speech.
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Post by: Nick on July 10, 2008, 12:25:39 PM
My friend the CBFT reports that after years here her sentences kinda go down at the end.Americans go up at the end. When she talks to family on the phone they always ask her what she is depressed about.

Living here I spect  noooo:
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Post by: Snoopy on July 10, 2008, 12:41:34 PM
Australians use rising intonation making everything sound like a question. Can't say I've noticed it with Yanks
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Post by: Bar Wench on July 10, 2008, 12:42:22 PM
Used to drive my parents mental. Even now I have a bad habit of picking up accents and using them, I suppose it is a leftover from trying to fit in when we moved around a lot when I was little. When I was at Uni and one of my best mates was from Sheffield I started sounding like a northerner. eeek:
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Post by: Nick on July 10, 2008, 01:15:22 PM
And now you sound like a taff?
Title: Re: Gordon ~ You poor deluded fool ~ I feel almost sorry for you
Post by: Snoopy on July 10, 2008, 01:46:34 PM
Used to drive my parents mental. Even now I have a bad habit of picking up accents and using them, I suppose it is a leftover from trying to fit in when we moved around a lot when I was little. When I was at Uni and one of my best mates was from Sheffield I started sounding like a northerner. eeek:

Sheffield accent is unique and those from Sheffield will tell you they are Northerners but in reality they are in the Midlands. I was married to one of them for 21 years. eveilgrin:
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Post by: Darwins Selection on July 10, 2008, 01:50:17 PM
I was married to one of them for 21 years.

 rubschin: Explains a lot. 
Title: Re: Gordon ~ You poor deluded fool ~ I feel almost sorry for you
Post by: Bar Wench on July 10, 2008, 01:54:28 PM
And now you sound like a taff?


Gracious no! I couldn't be with Mr Wench if he sounded like that!  eeek:
Title: Re: Gordon ~ You poor deluded fool ~ I feel almost sorry for you
Post by: Nick on July 10, 2008, 03:50:44 PM
He hoots?  eeek:
Title: Re: Gordon ~ You poor deluded fool ~ I feel almost sorry for you
Post by: Uncle Mort on July 11, 2008, 09:15:19 AM
Back on topic...

I like todays Independent editorial cartoon:


(https://www.virtual-pub.com/SMF/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.postimage.org%2Fgx2vdQl0.jpg&hash=54bf6846990750b6e5a3295390e59e67b5ea0583) (http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=gx2vdQl0)
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Post by: Barman on July 11, 2008, 10:56:32 AM
Back on topic...

I like todays Independent editorial cartoon:


(https://www.virtual-pub.com/SMF/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.postimage.org%2Fgx2vdQl0.jpg&hash=54bf6846990750b6e5a3295390e59e67b5ea0583) (http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=gx2vdQl0)

Excellent!
Title: Re: Gordon ~ You poor deluded fool ~ I feel almost sorry for you
Post by: Darwins Selection on July 11, 2008, 03:04:44 PM
Back on topic...

I like todays Independent editorial cartoon:


(https://www.virtual-pub.com/SMF/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.postimage.org%2Fgx2vdQl0.jpg&hash=54bf6846990750b6e5a3295390e59e67b5ea0583) (http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=gx2vdQl0)

happ096
Title: Re: Gordon ~ You poor deluded fool ~ I feel almost sorry for you
Post by: Grumpmeister on July 12, 2008, 08:54:11 AM
Perhaps we should try to help poor Gordon and suggest which fictional characters he is actually like.

Granted it isnt quite the same league of literature but l always thought he reminded me  of the pointy haired manager in the Dilbert strips.
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Post by: Snoopy on July 12, 2008, 12:20:38 PM
Today's Daily Mail has a number of photo-shopped options.  whistle:
Title: Re: Gordon ~ You poor deluded fool ~ I feel almost sorry for you
Post by: Snoopy on July 13, 2008, 05:58:26 AM
And here they are:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1034482/Heathcliff-Maybe-plenty-roles-Gordon-.html
Title: Re: Gordon ~ You poor deluded fool ~ I feel almost sorry for you
Post by: Barman on July 13, 2008, 06:28:42 AM
And here they are:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1034482/Heathcliff-Maybe-plenty-roles-Gordon-.html
lol: lol: lol: