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Come Inside... => Saloon Bar => Topic started by: GROWLER on November 24, 2008, 12:01:28 AM
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Sis in laws 50th the end of next month. I like her, and get on fine when we meet.
Her husband is a total and utter prick though, and I can't stand being near the scottish cocky slithery slimey get tbh.
What is it about people that falsely smile and 9/10ths close their eyes at the same time when they speak to you? He does it and it really hacks me off, bloody arsewipe. cussing:
Mrs GROWLER is always nagging me to try and be pleasant when we're all together like, but I just can't be. It's against my nature, and would consider myself two faced if I was even remotely pleasant to him.
However, I'm being 'asked' to go and celebrate her burfday at some theatre in Manchester at the end of next month to see............Peter Pan....WHHHHAT!? eeek: .... and then go for a 'jolly' meal afterwards. noooo:
Apart from the fact that I can't stand being in his company, I can't stand going to the theatre either, especially to watch some shite that's meant for kids.
Mrs GROWLER is well unimpressed with my decision not to go, but I feel I should stick to my ground.
I've told her to tell her sis tomorrow, who needs to book the tickets pronto, that I won't be going simply because I can't stand the theatre, which is true in'it? whistle:
I'm flummoxed, and feel like vanishing tbh.
God I wish I was single sometimes....like now. cry:
What am I going to do? Stick to me guns, or cave in and have a right old gob on?
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You can't win either way but stick to your
gruns guns... whistle:
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I agree with Barman. The whole thing sounds frightful. Call your SiL and wish her a Happy Birthday, but don't go!
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I agree with Barman.
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<supportive> Stick to your guns </supportive>
<realistic> You need to weigh whether it is worth the long term hassle you will receive from Mrs Growler if you don't go. A few hours of misery and pain vs possibly weeks of shite. </realistic>
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What is it about people that falsely smile and 9/10ths close their eyes at the same time when they speak to you?
Bloody cheapskates who won't pay full price for a facelift. ::)
As for the other problem, the Snoopy and BM are right, but as you know it is the women you must keep sweet.
Call SIL and wish her well and apologise, she probably knows why anyway (or thinks she does).
Tell Mrs Growler you can't go because your demeanour (attitude) will spoil it for her and the tension will make you ill and finally tell her you will probably lay him out the first time he looks at you.
That should get the 3 main feminine motivational drivers in your favour:
1. You call on her empathy for an awkward situation
2. You bring out her maternal instincts for your health
3. You let her avoid something that would embarrass her. ;)
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What is it about people that falsely smile and 9/10ths close their eyes at the same time when they speak to you?
Bloody cheapskates who won't pay full price for a facelift. ::)
As for the other problem, the Snoopy and BM are right, but as you know it is the women you must keep sweet.
Call SIL and wish her well and apologise, she probably knows why anyway (or thinks she does).
Tell Mrs Growler you can't go because your demeanour (attitude) will spoil it for her and the tension will make you ill and finally tell her you will probably lay him out the first time he looks at you.
That should get the 3 main feminine motivational drivers in your favour:
1. You call on her empathy for an awkward situation
2. You bring out her maternal instincts for your health
3. You let her avoid something that would embarrass her. ;)
worthy:
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What is it about people that falsely smile and 9/10ths close their eyes at the same time when they speak to you?
Bloody cheapskates who won't pay full price for a facelift. ::)
As for the other problem, the Snoopy and BM are right, but as you know it is the women you must keep sweet.
Why am I desperately rummaging amongst Google images for a picture of Brown? cussing:
Errrr, specsavers beckon i think DS. lol:
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What is it about people that falsely smile and 9/10ths close their eyes at the same time when they speak to you?
Bloody cheapskates who won't pay full price for a facelift. ::)
As for the other problem, the Snoopy and BM are right, but as you know it is the women you must keep sweet.
Call SIL and wish her well and apologise, she probably knows why anyway (or thinks she does).
Tell Mrs Growler you can't go because your demeanour (attitude) will spoil it for her and the tension will make you ill and finally tell her you will probably lay him out the first time he looks at you.
That should get the 3 main feminine motivational drivers in your favour:
1. You call on her empathy for an awkward situation
2. You bring out her maternal instincts for your health
3. You let her avoid something that would embarrass her. ;)
worthy:
Wot he did
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What is it about people that falsely smile and 9/10ths close their eyes at the same time when they speak to you?
Bloody cheapskates who won't pay full price for a facelift. ::)
As for the other problem, the Snoopy and BM are right, but as you know it is the women you must keep sweet.
Call SIL and wish her well and apologise, she probably knows why anyway (or thinks she does).
Tell Mrs Growler you can't go because your demeanour (attitude) will spoil it for her and the tension will make you ill and finally tell her you will probably lay him out the first time he looks at you.
That should get the 3 main feminine motivational drivers in your favour:
1. You call on her empathy for an awkward situation
2. You bring out her maternal instincts for your health
3. You let her avoid something that would embarrass her. ;)
worthy:
Wot he did
Wot? Turned all Islamic on us?
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DS speaks wisely. Ask any one of his three wives eveilgrin:
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DS speaks wisely. Ask any one of his three wives eveilgrin:
You'll need a Medium to ask #1.
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DS speaks wisely. Ask any one of his three wives eveilgrin:
You'll need a Medium to ask #1.
Patio? whistle:
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DS speaks wisely. Ask any one of his three wives eveilgrin:
You'll need a Medium to ask #1.
Patio? whistle:
Pegio.
Patio was #2
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I tend to think differently.
1) You are married which means you should to be supportive of your wife. If she wants you to go then you go.
2) It would be churlish not to help celebrate your SiL's birthday just because her choice doesn't fit your preferences. You like her and 50 is a big birthday. Don't spoil it.
3) So SiL's hubby is a bit of a prat ~ live with it
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Oh Uncle. Now the poor bear will have to toss a coin noooo:
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I tend to think differently.
1) You are married which means you should to be supportive of your wife. If she wants you to go then you go.
2) It would be churlish not to help celebrate your SiL's birthday just because her choice doesn't fit your preferences. You like her and 50 is a big birthday. Don't spoil it.
3) So SiL's hubby is a bit of a prat ~ live with it
Thank goodness there is one man here that sees sense! cloud9:
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I tend to think differently.
1) You are married which means you should to be supportive of your wife. If she wants you to go then you go.
2) It would be churlish not to help celebrate your SiL's birthday just because her choice doesn't fit your preferences. You like her and 50 is a big birthday. Don't spoil it.
3) So SiL's hubby is a bit of a prat ~ live with it
Thank goodness there is one man here that sees sense! cloud9:
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But the BiL is Scottish.That alone qualifies him for painful death
And Peter Pan FFS. The woman is 50!!
I will bake a big cake and let the cake fumes steam in Growler's direction, then he will be powerless to go
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For years, at school, I was forced into taking part in various "Productions". I found them acutely embarrassing and swore I would never attend one voluntarily thus I have stuck out against two wives, five children and four grandchildren and I will not attend any such event. That's me ~ learn to live with it or p*ss off has been my message throughout the last 40 years (Yes My eldest is now 40).
I was taken to a panto by my parents when I was about 8 and they had this so called comic on stage with a mirror. The trick was that he would reflect the spot light onto a child in the audience and said child would rise, go up on stage and sing with the "comic". Of course there was a bit of "banter" that went with this ~ all seeming to me to centre on some deformity that the "comic" saw in the child. Short haircut, sticking out ears, red face ~ in short anything he could take the p*ss out of. 20 children were chosen and I sank lower and power into my seat just knowing that he would pick me out and dreading the "encouragement" that my parents would give me to go up on stage. Sure enough it happened. The light shone on me and I refused point blank to join in the "jolly japes". My mother urged me to go on stage, My father swore at me but I sat tight. That night I was told in no uncertain terms that I was selfish and had ruined "their evening". I have never attended a panto since. Wild horses would not get me through the door. They are the most puerile form of entertainment known to man ~ beating even "I'm a so called celeb ~ what the f*ck am I doing here" etc.
I have steadfastly supported any of my children who do not want to perform at school or anywhere else ~ despite the claim that such performances are an essential part of the National Curriculum ~ utter bollox by the way.
Growler has to live with these people but in his position I would stick to my guns and have nothing to do with the "organised event". By all means buy your SiL a card and gift and give/send them to her personally but do not be forced into doing something you don't want to do.
As a PS: It was from that evening that things between my Father and I went downhill, culminating in my leaving home and joining the RAF aged fifteen and three quarters just to get away from home. He never forgot nor forgave me for "wasting his money" by refusing to perform when requested to at an event that I never actually wanted to see in the first place. Twenty years on he would still relate the tale of how I had embarrassed the "whole family".
Stick to your guns Growler ~ at least you will know you did what you felt was right and more importantly what you wanted to do. Let them call you names if they wish but Christmas is coming and they'll all want money from you no matter how "upset" they are so they will come round first ~ even if it is with their begging bowls as usual.
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For years, at school, I was forced into taking part in various "Productions". I found them acutely embarrassing and swore I would never attend one voluntarily thus I have stuck out against two wives, five children and four grandchildren and I will not attend any such event. That's me ~ learn to live with it or p*ss off has been my message throughout the last 40 years (Yes My eldest is now 40).
I was taken to a panto by my parents when I was about 8 and they had this so called comic on stage with a mirror. The trick was that he would reflect the spot light onto a child in the audience and said child would rise, go up on stage and sing with the "comic". Of course there was a bit of "banter" that went with this ~ all seeming to me to centre on some deformity that the "comic" saw in the child. Short haircut, sticking out ears, red face ~ in short anything he could take the p*ss out of. 20 children were chosen and I sank lower and power into my seat just knowing that he would pick me out and dreading the "encouragement" that my parents would give me to go up on stage. Sure enough it happened. The light shone on me and I refused point blank to join in the "jolly japes". My mother urged me to go on stage, My father swore at me but I sat tight. That night I was told in no uncertain terms that I was selfish and had ruined "their evening". I have never attended a panto since. Wild horses would not get me through the door. They are the most puerile form of entertainment known to man ~ beating even "I'm a so called celeb ~ what the f*ck am I doing here" etc.
I have steadfastly supported any of my children who do not want to perform at school or anywhere else ~ despite the claim that such performances are an essential part of the National Curriculum ~ utter bollox by the way.
Growler has to live with these people but in his position I would stick to my guns and have nothing to do with the "organised event". By all means buy your SiL a card and gift and give/send them to her personally but do not be forced into doing something you don't want to do.
As a PS: It was from that evening that things between my Father and I went downhill, culminating in my leaving home and joining the RAF aged fifteen and three quarters just to get away from home. He never forgot nor forgave me for "wasting his money" by refusing to perform when requested to at an event that I never actually wanted to see in the first place. Twenty years on he would still relate the tale of how I had embarrassed the "whole family".
Stick to your guns Growler ~ at least you will know you did what you felt was right and more importantly what you wanted to do. Let them call you names if they wish but Christmas is coming and they'll all want money from you no matter how "upset" they are so they will come round first ~ even if it is with their begging bowls as usual.
happ096
So, tell us more about this "deformity" of yours.
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point:
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I was "The short kid trying to 'ide be'ind the bloke with the big 'ead".
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I was "The short kid trying to 'ide be'ind the bloke with the big 'ead".
So, ears, eyes and nose all normal size and location then?
No warts or ginger hair or anything?
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Nope ~ usually 1950 stupid haircut, slathered in Brylcreem and, of course, the ubiquitous bow tie which all small boys were forced to wear to "go out" with their family. Apart from that I was not actually short ~ above average for my age but I was sitting low in the seat. Since he couldn't see much of me the "comic" had to make the crack about the bloke with the big head in front of me ~ who was a perfectly normal person.
If there is one thing that really p*sses me off it is personal comments about perceieved physical deformity of any sort. Fat people do not need telling that they are overweight ~ they f*cking know. People with big noses are aware of their looks, people who wear specs do not want to be called four eyes etc cussing: Pet hate territory here ~ I'd best shut up because I know there are those who love to "tease" in this manner ~ seemingly missing the fact that they are being downright offensive and hurtful.
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So is Baldymort fair game? rubschin:
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Frankly no ~ and I blush whenever I allow myself to join in, which is very seldom and usually only when he has personally played up to it.
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But he has come to terms with his deformity.
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But he has come to terms with his deformity.
My only consolation
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Thusly
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Frankly no ~ and I blush whenever I allow myself to join in, which is very seldom and usually only when he has personally played up to it.
I think also the fact that he isn't in fact bald helps. But I shall of course forget I have mentioned this in 3...2.... whistle:
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Frankly no ~ and I blush whenever I allow myself to join in, which is very seldom and usually only when he has personally played up to it.
I think also the fact that he isn't in fact bald helps. But I shall of course forget I have mentioned this in 3...2.... whistle:
Exactly ~ if he were I would not mention it.
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But he is. As a coot.Everyone knows that
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Anyway ~ Has Growler seen who's playing Peter Pan?
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She won't look anything like that from 30 rows back when he is surrounded by screaming kids, jokes about soap operas that he knows nothing of and his BiL who he hates
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Anyway ~ Has Growler seen who's playing Peter Pan?
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eeek: eeek: eeek: eeek: eeek:I will have his ticket off him
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She won't look anything like that from 30 rows back when he is surrounded by screaming kids, jokes about soap operas that he knows nothing of and his BiL who he hates
You can take this 'Grumpy Old Man' a bit far you know. ::)
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evil: Ohhhhhhh! I dooooooooon't think sooooooooooo! Not at this time of the year you can't. evil:
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I think also the fact that he isn't in fact bald helps.
No indeed, you are quite right.
char048
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Anyway ~ Has Growler seen who's playing Peter Pan?
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Undressed like that, and i could well be pursuaded after all. eeek:
Still don't know what to do.
Not like me this, as I normally just put me foot down and speak my mind, but as UM say's, it is a special burfday for her, and I do get on with her (especially the piss taking sessions regarding her sister...Mrs GROWLER lol:)
It's just her poxy husband with his tight lipped slitty eyed sarcastic smileys, and his looking down on me as though I'm a piece of shit. cussing:
Bloody self opinionated superior overly self important arrogant stuck up little turd burglar. His kids aren't much better either.
How could someone so pleasant end up with a total jock tit like him is totally beyond me. noooo:
All this could ruin my well earned crimbo break whichever way I decide to go. sad32:
Anyone seen this bloody Peter Pan show anyway?
Sounds like total durge to me.
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If you are juddering on the edge then it is best to go. SIL will be pleased, brownie points will be gained with Mrs Growler it will work out for the best. Promise yourself a pint or two and an extra large cake when you get home and when he starts playing up just shut your eyes and think of that.
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And If you follow Wench's advice take your BiL to one side and tell him to back off. He sounds like a bully. They always back off.
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I know Wenchy, I know. ::)
Any points gained wouldn't last long, i can assure you. ::)
This is the GROWLER household, where everything is MY fault. ::)
How long's this bloody show last then, and could I get a good kip out of it if i wear me sunglass's like? rubschin:
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And If you follow Wench's advice take your BiL to one side and tell him to back off. He sounds like a bully. They always back off.
Good idea. Failing that have a word with the SIL. Or when you are sitting at dinner, say to him that you have no idea why he insists on continuing this ridiculous behaviour and is he intent on ruining what is shaping up to be a lovely evening.
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I know Wenchy, I know. ::)
Any points gained wouldn't last long, i can assure you. ::)
This is the GROWLER household, where everything is MY fault. ::)
How long's this bloody show last then, and could I get a good kip out of it if i wear me sunglass's like? rubschin:
happy100
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Why not invite him outside for a smoke and twat him one?
"He walked into a door ogling a bit of crumpet" should get you out of trouble and him in it.
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And If you follow Wench's advice take your BiL to one side and tell him to back off. He sounds like a bully. They always back off.
Nah, he's not a bully, just a cock of a jock, and tbh I would have punched his slitty little eyes out by now if I thought I could get away with it.
Can't though , can you. noooo:
You wanna hear the sarcasm aimed at me and my tribe when he gets pissed.
This is one of the reasons I try and keep away tbh....to keep the peace in case I finally snap. I cannot believe just how patient I've been so far. eeek:
It'll happen one day, I'm sure of it.
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In that case DON'T GO!
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In that case DON'T GO!
Yes, no, yes, no, yes, no, yes no, yes, no.
Mrs GROWLER doesn't like him either. noooo:
Anyone else, and I'd probably put up and shut up tbh.
It's going to haunt me for the next 6 weeks this. Banghead
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Are you a man or a mouse.If Mrs G knows what you think and also thinks he is a tosser then DO NOT GO and tellher why and tell your SiL personally that you don't want to go to the threatre but wish her a nice birthday anyhoo
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Are you a man or a mouse.If Mrs G knows what you think and also thinks he is a tosser then DO NOT GO and tellher why and tell your SiL personally that you don't want to go to the threatre but wish her a nice birthday anyhoo
A mannnn obviously, but I don't want to upset SiL as she's luvlee. cloud9:
Should have married her while I had the chance. ::)
Her taste in theatre though, does leave a lot to be desired.
What's wrong with Chubby Brown ffs!? ::)
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Failing that have a word with the SIL. Or when you are sitting at dinner, say to him that you have no idea why he insists on continuing this ridiculous behaviour and is he intent on ruining what is shaping up to be a lovely evening.
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You can be very sweet sometimes my dear, but that suggestion has a few of the hooks into the real world missing.
noooo:
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A mannnn obviously, but I don't want to upset SiL as she's luvlee. cloud9:
Should have married her while I had the chance. ::)
Her taste in theatre though, does leave a lot to be desired.
What's wrong with Chubby Brown ffs!? ::)
If she is "luvlee" ~ Why not simply shag her thus getting your revenge on the arse of a husband, and take the opportunity, during the post coital ciggie, of telling her why you think it best not to go to her party? whistle:
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A mannnn obviously, but I don't want to upset SiL as she's luvlee. cloud9:
Should have married her while I had the chance. ::)
Her taste in theatre though, does leave a lot to be desired.
What's wrong with Chubby Brown ffs!? ::)
If she is "luvlee" ~ Why not simply shag her thus getting your revenge on the arse of a husband, and take the opportunity, during the post coital ciggie, of telling her why you think it best not to go to her party? whistle:
What a diplomatic giant you would be on the world stage.
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A mannnn obviously, but I don't want to upset SiL as she's luvlee. cloud9:
Should have married her while I had the chance. ::)
Her taste in theatre though, does leave a lot to be desired.
What's wrong with Chubby Brown ffs!? ::)
If she is "luvlee" ~ Why not simply shag her thus getting your revenge on the arse of a husband, and take the opportunity, during the post coital ciggie, of telling her why you think it best not to go to her party? whistle:
What a diplomatic giant you would be on the world stage.
You trying to tell me no-one threw a leg over Condi Rice? whistle:
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A mannnn obviously, but I don't want to upset SiL as she's luvlee. cloud9:
Should have married her while I had the chance. ::)
Her taste in theatre though, does leave a lot to be desired.
What's wrong with Chubby Brown ffs!? ::)
If she is "luvlee" ~ Why not simply shag her thus getting your revenge on the arse of a husband, and take the opportunity, during the post coital ciggie, of telling her why you think it best not to go to her party? whistle:
What a diplomatic giant you would be on the world stage.
You trying to tell me no-one threw a leg over Condi Rice? whistle:
There was a warning of black ice this morning, I thought that was her.
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evil: I am listening you know! evil:
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What are you on about?
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What are you on about?
You know! cussing:
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What are you on about?
You know! cussing:
No we don't. We said summat to upset you like? rubschin:
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Paint fumes I spect noooo:
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Paint fumes I spect noooo:
Yes? Well? Bit of a time lapse here ey?
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He is in Cyprus. He is always on the wrong time, lucky bastard
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As part of a bit of an ongoing peace plan covering potential ear ache, carpets, the path, me kecks, and the broken printer, I'm going now. sad32:
Ear muffs and dark glass's will be purchased shortly.
This has indeed been a dark day in the life of GROWLER The Great.
Payback will be a future sweetener to look forward to however. ;)
On a plus note, my luvlee SiL is absolutely delighted at my change of heart, and I've told her I'm doing it, but just for her.
Could be on for a snog now! eyes:
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Eh?
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An ennobling decision, Growler. happ096
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Eh?
'orse food, correct..
Next? ::)
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Just been informed that we're all, apparently, going to the bloody Trafford Center' for a meal afterwards. sick2:
Bloody hateful shithole grade A+ * merit distinction. evil:
Almost hoping I come down with the bastard flu now tbh. noooo:
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happy001
It will be fine. Just think of the cake you can eat on your return!
happy100
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happy001
It will be fine. Just think of the cake you can eat on your return!
happy100
No it WON'T be fine Wenchonio. noooo:
I could end up on a bloody murder charge, or at the very least cast out by the whole family. I'm dreading it, and 'compensation' will be sought from Mrs Growler over the coming few weeks after.
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Think they must have decided if you're in for a penny you're in for a pound lol:
They are probably aware that this will be the last time you agree to such a test of your endurance skills and are going for maximum impact eeek:
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Or everyone else thinks it's all a good idea and should be fun and they wonder why you're making such a fuss over it all.
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Just been informed that we're all, apparently, going to the bloody Trafford Center' for a meal afterwards. sick2:
Bloody hateful shithole grade A+ * merit distinction. evil:
Almost hoping I come down with the bastard flu now tbh. noooo:
Now remember, you like the lady whose birthday is being celebrated.
Go along like a man in control of himself and be nice, despite your feelings now you have no way out.
It is her special day and a bear with a sore ego could spoil it. noooo:
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I fail to understand which bit of the word NO you all seem incapable of uttering.
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We all understand the word but sometimes 'no' isn't the best option.
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When it suits me then NO! is the only option. eveilgrin:
But take no notice of me. If you all want to be cheese eating surrender monkeys then that's up to you. I simply decided some years ago that I had reached the point where worrying about pleasing others was no longer my primary concern. It is wonderfully liberating. It has to be said that MrsS#2 does not like it much but that is her problem, not mine. What she wishes to do about it is again her problem, not mine.
You see, having discovered how much the loss of loved ones, divorce and then estrangement from those I thought loved me can hurt, I realised that nothing could ever hurt that much again, nothing could ever have such an effect on me ~ so I have nothing to lose and everything to gain by simply being selfish. Not in a material way of course, possessions count for nothing, but completely selfish in protecting my feelings.
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When it suits me then NO! is the only option. eveilgrin:
But take no notice of me. If you all want to be cheese eating surrender monkeys then that's up to you. I simply decided some years ago that I had reached the point where worrying about pleasing others was no longer my primary concern. It is wonderfully liberating. It has to be said that MrsS#2 does not like it much but that is her problem, not mine. What she wishes to do about it is again her problem, not mine.
You see, having discovered how much the loss of loved ones, divorce and then estrangement from those I thought loved me can hurt, I realised that nothing could ever hurt that much again, nothing could ever have such an effect on me ~ so I have nothing to lose and everything to gain by simply being selfish. Not in a material way of course, possessions count for nothing, but completely selfish in protecting my feelings.
[preach]
My original advice, you may recall, was that he say 'No' and qualify why to Mrs G and and explain the positive benefits of staying away.
Now he has chosen not to fight it and actually go, my counsel is that he does so with good grace so as not to spoil it for someone whose feelings he has said he cares about.
Your way is undoubtedly right for you and others here, and could have been right for him but he has chosen another path. Support him.[/preach]
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When it suits me then NO! is the only option. eveilgrin:
But take no notice of me. If you all want to be cheese eating surrender monkeys then that's up to you. I simply decided some years ago that I had reached the point where worrying about pleasing others was no longer my primary concern. It is wonderfully liberating. It has to be said that MrsS#2 does not like it much but that is her problem, not mine. What she wishes to do about it is again her problem, not mine.
You see, having discovered how much the loss of loved ones, divorce and then estrangement from those I thought loved me can hurt, I realised that nothing could ever hurt that much again, nothing could ever have such an effect on me ~ so I have nothing to lose and everything to gain by simply being selfish. Not in a material way of course, possessions count for nothing, but completely selfish in protecting my feelings.
[preach]
My original advice, you may recall, was that he say 'No' and qualify why to Mrs G and and explain the positive benefits of staying away.
Now he has chosen not to fight it and actually go, my counsel is that he does so with good grace so as not to spoil it for someone whose feelings he has said he cares about.
Your way is undoubtedly right for you and others here, and could have been right for him but he has chosen another path. Support him.[/preach]
Wise words DS ~ I shall offer the lad my old jock strap.
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It's not about being a 'cheese eating surrender monkey' but weighing up the options and coming to the best course of action.
Pleasing others doesn't have to be your primary concern but it should figure in there somewhat.
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It's not about being a 'cheese eating surrender monkey' but weighing up the options and coming to the best course of action.
Pleasing others doesn't have to be your primary concern but it should figure in there somewhat.
Agreed ~ but only when it suits my purpose and my ultimate purpose is my peace and quiet. However I will never do anything I do not want to do, not to please anyone. If it displeases me then it will not be done by me. Sorry.
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Maybe with Growler's ultimate purpose being peace and quiet you should have counselled yes.
Also it's interesting that you feel the need to apologise for your stance. rubschin:
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The "sorry" was a convention ~ it can be withdrawn eveilgrin:
If Growler feels that his peace and quiet is best served by giving in then that is up to him. I have already offered my support for this.
Personally I would enjoy the peace and quiet of being on my own for the evening and I would not have suffered further "earbashing" at a later date as such carrying on does not impress me and is not tolerated.
It is amazing how quickly nagging can be stopped with a smack in the mouth.
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It is amazing how quickly nagging can be stopped with a smack in the mouth.
Tongue in cheek I trust.
To be honest I do agree with you somewhat. I wouldn't say yes to something I didn't want to do just because it's 'expected' of me. That way leads to being a doormat. But I wouldn't say no just from the fear of having my feelings or emotions hurt either.
'tis better to have loved and lost than never to have loved at all.
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It is amazing how quickly nagging can be stopped with a smack in the mouth.
Tongue in cheek I trust. Not entirely ~ they know it is there if they push for it. So far they have heeded the warning
To be honest I do agree with you somewhat. I wouldn't say yes to something I didn't want to do just because it's 'expected' of me. That way leads to being a doormat. But I wouldn't say no just from the fear of having my feelings or emotions hurt either. I simply do not allow anyone close enough to hurt me that much again
'tis better to have loved and lost than never to have loved at all. Having loved and lost I felt it better not to even try again. Companionship, trust and perhaps some understanding is enough but I also know I can do without
Assuming we are being serious that is.
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That's quite sad really.
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That's quite sad really.
That's life!
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I am being serious and, like Wenchy, I find it sad that you feel that way. Understandable, having loved and lost myself, but sad.
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That's quite sad really.
But I am not and that surely is the point.
But are you missing out by shielding yourself from these things? I know I am an awful ;) lot younger than you but I spent a lot of years convinced that I would be better off on my own as all people seemed to do was hurt you. When I think about what I would have missed out on in the last few years if I had continued with that mind set I do think it is sad.
It does work for you and for the most part you seem fairly contented with your life but could you be happier with a different mindset? I'm not suggesting you change as clearly it works for you and Mrs Snoppy but I'm not sure it would work for me.
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No Wenchy ~ you hang onto your dreams and enjoy them ~ I hope they last forever.
So let's leave it there then shall we? I also have a dislike of revealing myself (as opposed to exposing myself before Nick gets hold of this exchange).
And on to happier matters ~ Growler may well twat this Scots get then?
What odds are being offered?
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I reckon Growler will go and will just manage to hold onto his temper but will explode as they are leaving the restaurant. Possibly cullminating in a fight of Hugh Grant/ Colin Firth proportions.
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=RnoNUSObob0
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Can't see the youtube but it's sounds like 'handbags' to me.
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Wish I'd never opened my gob now tbh. ::)
I'm going as I feel that in this particular instance and case I personally feel I should for the sake of my SIL.
No pressure as such from anyone else, just the difference between my sole judgement between right and wrong.
Might get her away from that rancid husband of hers if I can 'fix' the seating arrangements too.
Get Mrs G to sit next to her beloved BIL so she can then reflect on what a wonderful husband Mr G really is after all! cloud9:
There's only one person there that I don't want to be associated with and Growlers jnr will keep me more than occupied to help me avoid any verbal contact with him hopefully. I've promised with gritted teeth to be on my best...ish behaviour with limited...ish sarcasm only uttered in a quiet Scottish voice. ::)
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Wish I'd never opened my gob now tbh. ::)
I'm going as I feel that in this particular instance and case I personally feel I should for the sake of my SIL.
No pressure as such from anyone else, just the difference between my sole judgement between right and wrong.
Might get her away from that rancid husband of hers if I can 'fix' the seating arrangements too.
Get Mrs G to sit next to her beloved BIL so she can then reflect on what a wonderful husband Mr G really is after all! cloud9:
There's only one person there that I don't want to be associated with and Growlers jnr will keep me more than occupied to help me avoid any verbal contact with him hopefully. I've promised with gritted teeth to be on my best...ish behaviour with limited...ish sarcasm only uttered in a quiet Scottish voice. ::)
I am sure I speak for us all in respecting your choice and wishing you well on the day.
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Wish I'd never opened my gob now tbh. ::)
I'm going as I feel that in this particular instance and case I personally feel I should for the sake of my SIL.
No pressure as such from anyone else, just the difference between my sole judgement between right and wrong.
Might get her away from that rancid husband of hers if I can 'fix' the seating arrangements too.
Get Mrs G to sit next to her beloved BIL so she can then reflect on what a wonderful husband Mr G really is after all! cloud9:
There's only one person there that I don't want to be associated with and Growlers jnr will keep me more than occupied to help me avoid any verbal contact with him hopefully. I've promised with gritted teeth to be on my best...ish behaviour with limited...ish sarcasm only uttered in a quiet Scottish voice. ::)
Follow him to the gents and twat him one. Then claim you went into the bogs and found him on the floor like whistle:
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Wish I'd never opened my gob now tbh. ::)
I'm going as I feel that in this particular instance and case I personally feel I should for the sake of my SIL.
No pressure as such from anyone else, just the difference between my sole judgement between right and wrong.
Might get her away from that rancid husband of hers if I can 'fix' the seating arrangements too.
Get Mrs G to sit next to her beloved BIL so she can then reflect on what a wonderful husband Mr G really is after all! cloud9:
There's only one person there that I don't want to be associated with and Growlers jnr will keep me more than occupied to help me avoid any verbal contact with him hopefully. I've promised with gritted teeth to be on my best...ish behaviour with limited...ish sarcasm only uttered in a quiet Scottish voice. ::)
Follow him to the gents and twat him one. Then claim you went into the bogs and found him on the floor like whistle:
I've already had more than a belly full of scottish twats today. Nick will know who I mean....mean being the operative word. cussing:
Knock the pair of them out with ultimate pleasure I could.
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14 hours and counting. cussing:
I've been warned scared2: yet again, to be on my best behaviour. ::)
Wonder if Moany could pass his squiffy gut virus online over to me like....sharpish like....please?
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Wish I'd never opened my gob now tbh. ::)
I'm going as I feel that in this particular instance and case I personally feel I should for the sake of my SIL.
No pressure as such from anyone else, just the difference between my sole judgement between right and wrong.
Might get her away from that rancid husband of hers if I can 'fix' the seating arrangements too.
Get Mrs G to sit next to her beloved BIL so she can then reflect on what a wonderful husband Mr G really is after all! cloud9:
There's only one person there that I don't want to be associated with and Growlers jnr will keep me more than occupied to help me avoid any verbal contact with him hopefully. I've promised with gritted teeth to be on my best...ish behaviour with limited...ish sarcasm only uttered in a quiet Scottish voice. ::)
Follow him to the gents and twat him one. Then claim you went into the bogs and found him on the floor like whistle:
Even better...Twat him in the bog, then tell everyone he was looking at your knob eyes:
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Wish I'd never opened my gob now tbh. ::)
I'm going as I feel that in this particular instance and case I personally feel I should for the sake of my SIL.
No pressure as such from anyone else, just the difference between my sole judgement between right and wrong.
Might get her away from that rancid husband of hers if I can 'fix' the seating arrangements too.
Get Mrs G to sit next to her beloved BIL so she can then reflect on what a wonderful husband Mr G really is after all! cloud9:
There's only one person there that I don't want to be associated with and Growlers jnr will keep me more than occupied to help me avoid any verbal contact with him hopefully. I've promised with gritted teeth to be on my best...ish behaviour with limited...ish sarcasm only uttered in a quiet Scottish voice. ::)
Follow him to the gents and twat him one. Then claim you went into the bogs and found him on the floor like whistle:
Even better...Twat him in the bog, then tell everyone he was looking at your knob eyes:
happy001
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Well? How did it go?
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Day went ok'ish up to the point of being confronted by a loud threatening foul mouthed manunian piece of sewer shit scum who didn't like me trying to sort out my exit fee with the guy on the end of the built in phone at the exit barrier at NCP carparks.
Got pretty nasty and he didn't give a jot about his foul ranting and threatening behaviour even though I had two youngsters and an oap on board.
His screaming wife dragged him away in the end.
Wish I'd been on my own. cussing:
Happy new year Manc scum. sick2:
I shall not be visiting Manc land or that hell shithole called Trafford park ever again.
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Well? How did it go?
The incidental bit of the day went according to plan, but it was as boring as hell. I did fall asleep briefly. ::)
When the cast decided that it was time for some communal singing we all had to link arms. The guy next to me said he wasn't going to bother as he didn't want to spoil my slumbers, sarcy mancunian git. ::)
I was sickened and very angry with a crimson face afterwards though, and virtually speechless for the rest of the day. Struggled to eat my tea tbh. I'm still glowering with rage now tbh.
My lovely SIL was very embarrassed, close to tears and extremely apologetic about the unjustified grief I received after the show however. She was 3 cars behind me at the car park fiasco and heard it all.
Told her it wasn't her fault in any way whatsoever and gave her a hug.
Tonight I generally feel shit, sad, very quiet and subdued and at hate with the general public generally.
I'm going up Snowdon very early on new years day on my own now, to hopefully regain some peace in my mind life and soul.
A very hurt and bitter Growler tonight licking his wounds.
Is it any wonder I want to 'drop out' and go and live in the woods. noooo:
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happy100
Could have been a lot worse and it is over now.
After Snowdon you will wonder what all the fuss was about. ;)
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You should come and pick up yer cake! (I am out till about 3)
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So no problem with BiL then. And if the altercation at the carpark hadn't happened all would have been well.
You could have meet the "foul mouthed manunian piece of sewer shit scum" at any time. There are plenty about. Don't let it get to you.
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So no problem with BiL then. And if the altercation at the carpark hadn't happened all would have been well.
No, not really. We were polite to each other but no great deep and meaningful conversations. I was too upset 'inside' regarding the disgraceful foul behaviour thrown at me to be really bothered about petty differences with him tbh.
They paled into insignificance after the altercation, but yes, it did spoil what would otherwise have been a reasonably ok ish day I suppose. Think it was the sudden shock of it all that caught me off guard tbh
Mrs G is now having a go at me because I'm still very unhappy about it all. She really doesn't understand how I'm feeling. She keeps bringing it up, whereas I just want to try and forget about it and move on.
I think most people would have been upset at the sudden and totally unprovoked attack tbh.
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And no comeback on the other incident?
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We were polite to each other but no great deep and meaningful conversations.
Can't say I've ever had much more from most of my relatives.
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We have seen no rellies over Christmas. We had lots of friends round, some to stay. Very nice it was too!
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What's that old adage about being able to chose your friends but not your relatives.
My eldest brother stayed from Xmas eve 'til yesterday. We get on well so no problem. If it had been either of my other two brothers the conversation would have died after half an hour.
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And no comeback on the other incident?
No.
I've made a statement to the rozzers today with a view towards prosecuting the arse wipe for verbal abuse and threatening behaviour.It is a prosecutable offence apparently, with a maximum sentence of being sent down.
Plod will be contacting NCP to view the cctv tape that they apparently have to gain registration numbers of witness's and of the neanderthal dead head himself,and a decision will then be made.
I sincerley hope this scum ends up in court before he attacks someone else, with possible more serious implications, but I'm not holding my breath. Worth a try though, and plod agreed that this sort of behaviour needs stamping out.
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No, the incident with Growler Minor. Do you want this cake?
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No, the incident with Growler Minor. Do you want this cake?
First two letters of my previous post quoting your quote answers your question you duffer. ::)
KEEP the CAKE for me or I WILL kill you. evil:
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We have eaten some more this evening whistle:
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We have eaten some more this evening whistle:
Coffee and CAKE in the morning then?
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Yes
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No, the incident with Growler Minor.
What was the incident with Growler Minor?
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Best not to ask, like
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But I have!
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But I have!
Well I'm not telling, and YOU Nick can keep yer gob shut in future. ::)
I shall ring in the morning about 10. OK?
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Yup
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But I have!
Well I'm not telling, and YOU Nick can keep yer gob shut in future. ::)
I shall ring in the morning about 10. OK?
scared2:
In all fairness to Nick, I have been dying to ask for days. redface:
I'm at work at 10, can we make it 3:30? I look forward to hearing the details! ;)
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He's calling me you dolt!
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Oh. sad24:
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Oh. sad24:
Give you a bell too like, but I do talk much shite, apparently, so they say. ::)
btw, will you shift that bloody crimbo signature please, as it's getting RIGHT ON MY TITS! Banghead
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But I have!
Well I'm not telling, and YOU Nick can keep yer gob shut in future. ::)
Exactly my thought when Nick started asking questions about something that was so obviously born of a PRIVATE conversation and had not been referred to on the board.
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Oh. sad24:
Give you a bell too like, but I do talk much shite, apparently, so they say. ::)
btw, will you shift that bloody crimbo signature please, as it's getting RIGHT ON MY TITS! Banghead
All the more reason to keep it! eveilgrin:
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Oh. sad24:
Give you a bell too like, but I do talk much shite, apparently, so they say. ::)
btw, will you shift that bloody crimbo signature please, as it's getting RIGHT ON MY TITS! Banghead
All the more reason to keep it! eveilgrin:
I will gain revenge sooner or later, be warned. evil:
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Growler has now sniffed my cake and pronounced it to be good. IN fact there's hardly any left evil:
He also witnessed the wrath of Mrs Nick at first hand. Even she exceeded her own irrationality record noooo:
She refused to talk to him on the grounds that they had not been introduced rubschin:
She has met him before, but has no recollection of it. Banghead
It's a miracle there aren't more murders this time of year.
And the Boy is lined up for a sound thrashing shortly, if he doesan't watch it evil:
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Growler has now sniffed my cake and pronounced it to be good. IN fact there's hardly any left evil:
He also witnessed the wrath of Mrs Nick at first hand. Even she exceeded her own irrationality record noooo:
She refused to talk to him on the grounds that they had not been introduced rubschin:
She has met him before, but has no recollection of it. Banghead
It's a miracle there aren't more murders this time of year.
And the Boy is lined up for a sound thrashing shortly, if he doesan't watch it evil:
Strange household...much like my own in fact. lol:
Cake IS exceptionally good, and there IS plenty left. Nick's telling porkey's. ::)
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I am now baking bread. All that kneading, pounding and squeezing. Good bread is made when one pretends that the dough is Mrs Nick's head evil:
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You're not making bread - you're getting flour and dough all over your keyboard! point:
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Easier with a bread maker ~ cheaper too. BUT of course you'd need space to put one whistle:
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Easier with a bread maker ~ cheaper too. BUT of course you'd need space to put one whistle:
A bread maker...? rubschin:
Won't last more than a few years... the old fashioned ways are best... whistle:
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I am doing it by hand. And there IS dough in my keyboard evil:
Growler loves my cake cloud9:
I never showed him my pie, just in case like eveilgrin:
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Easier with a bread maker ~ cheaper too. BUT of course you'd need space to put one whistle:
A bread maker...? rubschin:
Won't last more than a few years... the old fashioned ways are best... whistle:
Ha fvcking Ha!
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Easier with a bread maker ~ cheaper too. BUT of course you'd need space to put one whistle:
A bread maker...? rubschin:
Won't last more than a few years... the old fashioned ways are best... whistle:
Ha fvcking Ha!
happy001
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Easier with a bread maker ~ cheaper too. BUT of course you'd need space to put one whistle:
i am yet to have any nice bread done in breadmaker....good old fashioned hand made bread is still the best
and failing that morrisons own... point:
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I have a machine that we use for everyday bread but I still like making my own by hand properly. By hand is best but the bread maker is still nicer than shop bought.
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Easier with a bread maker ~ cheaper too. BUT of course you'd need space to put one whistle:
i am yet to have any nice bread done in breadmaker....good old fashioned hand made bread is still the best
and failing that morrisons own... point:
Mrs TG spells cloud9: