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Come Inside... => The Restaurant => Topic started by: Pastis on December 01, 2008, 02:59:08 PM
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Well, I've taken the plunge and bought a new ceramic hob to replace the old solid hotplate hob. Armed with BM's money off voucher (!) and with a store discount coupled with reclaiming the value added bit, it came in at a decent price. Now, should I spoil the ship for a ha'peth of tar and try to install it myself? rubschin:
I'm not averse to a bit of DIYery but in my experience there's always a learning curve and I've never done this one. Online research tells me virtually nothing about installing one let alone removing the existing unit, but there's about 12 pages of discussion on a technicians forum concerning the legality, compliance, safety testing issues etc so methinks it might be wiser in the long run to get Jimbo Sparks along and pay him to do it.
Well? Should I or shouldn't I?
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DIY happy088
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Get a man in, oh please get a man in.
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Get a man in, oh please get a man in.
I'm leaning that way Wenchy, but it would of course make the thread a lot shorter ;)
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DIY.
These things are over rated as to their complexity.
Put the wires on where they came off the old one, job done,
Tradesmen, PAH!
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Of course without a qualified Electrician's signature on the certificate saying that he has inspected the installation any warranty would be invalid as would your insurance if it goes up in smoke. Qualified Sparks does not HAVE to fit it but he does need to sign the job off and he'll charge the same for that as to fit the bloody thing
Get a man in and take no notice of (i) Expats to whom the rules don't apply and (ii) Farmers who will lash anything up with baler twine and call it a "Job well done".
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Of course without a qualified Electrician's signature on the certificate saying that he has inspected the installation any warranty would be invalid as would your insurance if it goes up in smoke. Qualified Sparks does not HAVE to fit it but he does need to sign the job off and he'll charge the same for that as to fit the bloody thing
Get a man in and take no notice of (i) Expats to whom the rules don't apply and (ii) Farmers who will lash anything up with baler twine and call it a "Job well done".
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Anyhoo... why is this in the restaurant... rubschin:
(DIY) whistle:
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Of course without a qualified Electrician's signature on the certificate saying that he has inspected the installation any warranty would be invalid as would your insurance if it goes up in smoke. Qualified Sparks does not HAVE to fit it but he does need to sign the job off and he'll charge the same for that as to fit the bloody thing
Get a man in and take no notice of (i) Expats to whom the rules don't apply and (ii) Farmers who will lash anything up with baler twine and call it a "Job well done".
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I still would DIY.
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Of course without a qualified Electrician's signature on the certificate saying that he has inspected the installation any warranty would be invalid as would your insurance if it goes up in smoke. Qualified Sparks does not HAVE to fit it but he does need to sign the job off and he'll charge the same for that as to fit the bloody thing
Get a man in and take no notice of (i) Expats to whom the rules don't apply and (ii) Farmers who will lash anything up with baler twine and call it a "Job well done".
redface:
I still would DIY.
Good man! happy088
Have a Talisker!
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Anyhoo... why is this in the restaurant... rubschin:
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Kitchen appliance? Food related?
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Of course without a qualified Electrician's signature on the certificate saying that he has inspected the installation any warranty would be invalid as would your insurance if it goes up in smoke. Qualified Sparks does not HAVE to fit it but he does need to sign the job off and he'll charge the same for that as to fit the bloody thing
Get a man in and take no notice of (i) Expats to whom the rules don't apply and (ii) Farmers who will lash anything up with baler twine and call it a "Job well done".
That's why I'm leaning towards Jimbo Sparks. The other thing, which is quite important, is that having done a reccy of the job I think the whole oven (beneath) will have to come out first in order to get at the fixings and connectors. That alone I'm quite happpy for Jimbo and Jimbo Jnr to do.
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Of course without a qualified Electrician's signature on the certificate saying that he has inspected the installation any warranty would be invalid as would your insurance if it goes up in smoke. Qualified Sparks does not HAVE to fit it but he does need to sign the job off and he'll charge the same for that as to fit the bloody thing
Get a man in and take no notice of (i) Expats to whom the rules don't apply and (ii) Farmers who will lash anything up with baler twine and call it a "Job well done".
That's why I'm leaning towards Jimbo Sparks. The other thing, which is quite important, is that having done a reccy of the job I think the whole oven (beneath) will have to come out first in order to get at the fixings and connectors. That alone I'm quite happpy for Jimbo and Jimbo Jnr to do.
That's your money-off voucher wasted then... noooo:
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Of course without a qualified Electrician's signature on the certificate saying that he has inspected the installation any warranty would be invalid as would your insurance if it goes up in smoke. Qualified Sparks does not HAVE to fit it but he does need to sign the job off and he'll charge the same for that as to fit the bloody thing
Get a man in and take no notice of (i) Expats to whom the rules don't apply and (ii) Farmers who will lash anything up with baler twine and call it a "Job well done".
That's why I'm leaning towards Jimbo Sparks. The other thing, which is quite important, is that having done a reccy of the job I think the whole oven (beneath) will have to come out first in order to get at the fixings and connectors. That alone I'm quite happpy for Jimbo and Jimbo Jnr to do.
That's your money-off voucher wasted then... noooo:
Err... no. Invested ;)
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Get a man in
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Of course without a qualified Electrician's signature on the certificate saying that he has inspected the installation any warranty would be invalid as would your insurance if it goes up in smoke. Qualified Sparks does not HAVE to fit it but he does need to sign the job off and he'll charge the same for that as to fit the bloody thing
Get a man in and take no notice of (i) Expats to whom the rules don't apply and (ii) Farmers who will lash anything up with baler twine and call it a "Job well done".
redface:
I still would DIY.
Good man! happy088
Have a Talisker!
You're my besht mat
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Of course without a qualified Electrician's signature on the certificate saying that he has inspected the installation any warranty would be invalid as would your insurance if it goes up in smoke. Qualified Sparks does not HAVE to fit it but he does need to sign the job off and he'll charge the same for that as to fit the bloody thing
Get a man in and take no notice of (i) Expats to whom the rules don't apply and (ii) Farmers who will lash anything up with baler twine and call it a "Job well done".
redface:
I still would DIY.
Good man! happy088
Have a Talisker!
You're my besht mat
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Excshellent... sad24:
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Jim Sparks is booked in for tomorrow cloud9:
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Wise choice my friend.
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We know it makes sense whistle:
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What could possibly go wrong?
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Well, the only potential problem is that Greek Cypriot cleaning woman is here tomorrow at the same time and Jimbo asked if she was nice, like eyes:. I said she was in her late 50's and about as wide as she was high at which he announced that he liked 'em big...
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Jim Sparks is booked in for tomorrow cloud9:
noooo:
How much is he charging for connecting up three wires...?
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whistle:
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=cy3BdoWaYxY
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Jim Sparks is booked in for tomorrow cloud9:
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How much is he charging for connecting up three wires...?
I'll let you know tomorrow after he's taken out the cooker, unfixed the existing unit, made good the work surface, prepared the new unit, slid it into place, run the new wiring into place, made the connections presumably, tested the new unit, refitted the oven beneath the work surface, cleaned up, written a compliance statement that covers me if I need to complete HIPS, and taken away and disposed of the old unit. whistle:
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Jim Sparks is booked in for tomorrow cloud9:
noooo:
How much is he charging for connecting up three wires...?
I'll let you know tomorrow after he's taken out the cooker, unfixed the existing unit, made good the work surface, prepared the new unit, slid it into place, run the new wiring into place, made the connections presumably, tested the new unit, refitted the oven beneath the work surface, cleaned up, written a compliance statement that covers me if I need to complete HIPS, and taken away and disposed of the old unit. whistle:
££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££s then... noooo:
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Jim Sparks is booked in for tomorrow cloud9:
noooo:
How much is he charging for connecting up three wires...?
I'll let you know tomorrow after he's taken out the cooker, unfixed the existing unit, made good the work surface, prepared the new unit, slid it into place, run the new wiring into place, made the connections presumably, tested the new unit, refitted the oven beneath the work surface, cleaned up, written a compliance statement that covers me if I need to complete HIPS, and taken away and disposed of the old unit. whistle:
££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££s then... noooo:
But ££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££s aren't worth much anyway. They'll be giving them away with breakfast cereals soon.
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Nifty tops. Kushti. whistle:
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Jim Sparks is booked in for tomorrow cloud9:
noooo:
How much is he charging for connecting up three wires...?
I'll let you know tomorrow after he's taken out the cooker, unfixed the existing unit, made good the work surface, prepared the new unit, slid it into place, run the new wiring into place, made the connections presumably, tested the new unit, refitted the oven beneath the work surface, cleaned up, written a compliance statement that covers me if I need to complete HIPS, and taken away and disposed of the old unit. whistle:
££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££s then... noooo:
But ££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££s aren't worth much anyway. They'll be giving them away with breakfast cereals soon.
True. I'll bring a few €s with me at Xmas and be a squillionaire... cloud9:
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Job done, unit tested, all clean and lovely, old unit disposed of, genuine charm and amusing banter.
Took him just over an hour, first getting the oven away and clear, then finding the fixings of the old one, but because HE'D DONE IT BEFORE NUMEROUS TIMES, he knew where to look and had the right kit. Out with the old hob, prep'd the work surface and fitted the new, TESTED WITH LECCY THING THAT I DON'T HAVE, and cleaned up.
A handshake and forty notes. happy088
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Job done, unit tested, all clean and lovely, old unit disposed of, genuine charm and amusing banter.
Took him just over an hour, first getting the oven away and clear, then finding the fixings of the old one, but because HE'D DONE IT BEFORE NUMEROUS TIMES, he knew where to look and had the right kit. Out with the old hob, prep'd the work surface and fitted the new, TESTED WITH LECCY THING THAT I DON'T HAVE, and cleaned up.
A handshake and forty notes. happy088
You seem like the kind of chap who would be interested in a Magic Turnip.
Only £20 for VP regulars.
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Job done, unit tested, all clean and lovely, old unit disposed of, genuine charm and amusing banter.
Took him just over an hour, first getting the oven away and clear, then finding the fixings of the old one, but because HE'D DONE IT BEFORE NUMEROUS TIMES, he knew where to look and had the right kit. Out with the old hob, prep'd the work surface and fitted the new, TESTED WITH LECCY THING THAT I DON'T HAVE, and cleaned up.
A handshake and forty notes. happy088
Forty quid an hour! confused2:
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Cheap at twice the price.
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BM clearly has little experience of proper craftsmen noooo:
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BM clearly has little experience of proper craftsmen noooo:
He's a 'sparks'... hardly a craftsman... like wot I am... whistle:
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You can't even climb a ladder without falling off
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Took him just over an hour
Probably charges £20 an hour or any part thereof. If it hadn't been for the charm and amusing banter he would have done the job in 55mins. ;)
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You can't even climb a ladder without falling off
But when he falls he does a double twist with backward somersault before he hits the deck
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Oh I have been caught by that one. They always take one hour and five minutes angry041:
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You can't even climb a ladder without falling off
But when he falls he does a double twist with backward somersault before he hits the deck
Does he charge extra for aerobatics, do you think?
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Took him just over an hour
Probably charges £20 an hour or any part thereof. If it hadn't been for the charm and amusing banter he would have done the job in 55mins. ;)
lol: lol: lol:
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Just for comparison, like, take a look at this charge scale for Central London, a franchise of trades...
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Drain Jetting - £150 eeek:
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And in Cyprus they just stuff a goat down the drain and pull it through. whistle:
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Drain Jetting - £150 eeek:
Eye watering, eh? Gerrit?