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Title: WALL-E
Post by: Barman on December 30, 2008, 08:31:39 PM
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On Blu-Ray like...
Title: Re: WALL-E
Post by: Nick on December 30, 2008, 08:32:23 PM
What is this Blu Ray of which you burble?
Title: Re: WALL-E
Post by: Snoopy on December 30, 2008, 08:42:48 PM
A supposedly superior format of DVD that gives better visual and sound effects from DVDs that cost about three times as much as ordinary DVDs.
If you remember the arguments about Betamax versus VCR ~ Blue Ray is one side of a debate about what follows DVD.
TBH given my aging hearing and sight I doubt that I would notice much difference for the extra money but gadget freaks love it ... until something else comes along.
Title: Re: WALL-E
Post by: Bar Wench on December 30, 2008, 09:27:01 PM
Personally I've heard they are no good without a decent projector.  whistle:
Title: Re: WALL-E
Post by: Nick on December 30, 2008, 09:27:31 PM
And a proper home cinema  eveilgrin:
Title: Re: WALL-E
Post by: Bar Wench on December 30, 2008, 09:33:16 PM
I have it on good authority that you can only fit two people in there and they have to sit on each others laps.  whistle:
Title: Re: WALL-E
Post by: Barman on December 31, 2008, 07:39:25 AM
I have it on good authority that you can only fit two people in there and they have to sit on each others laps.  whistle:
Why do you think I've invited you...?  eyes:
Title: Re: WALL-E
Post by: Barman on December 31, 2008, 08:06:02 AM
A supposedly superior format of DVD that gives better visual and sound effects from DVDs that cost about three times as much as ordinary DVDs.
If you remember the arguments about Betamax versus VCR ~ Blue Ray is one side of a debate about what follows DVD.
TBH given my aging hearing and sight I doubt that I would notice much difference for the extra money but gadget freaks love it ... until something else comes along.
Not quite as you describe hound…  noooo:

New High Definition TVs can display up to 1,080 horizontal lines whereas the old telly standard we’ve had for what, forty years or so could only show 625 lines.

The old DVD standard of which you speak could only produce 576 horizontal picture lines so a new standard was required that could match the quality of new HD televisions.

There has already been a battle similar to the betamax VHS one that we remember well. This time the two players (snigger) were HD DVD and Blu-Ray DVD, both backed by different Japanese manufacturers and film studios.

The ‘battle’ has been won recently by Blu-Ray.

Blu-Ray offers five times the storage of a normal DVD which allows high definition video and audio storage. A Blu-Ray disc can display (on the appropriate TV or projector) 1,080 non-interlaced horizontal picture lines and multiple audio tracks plus loads of extras.

The difference between a normal DVD and HD DVD is absolutely staggering, almost twice the resolution of an old DVD – even the hound’s old eyes will notice the difference.

Modern players (like my new Sony) can also ‘upscale’ standard definition (SD) DVDs to the 1080 standard too.

Soon all DVDs will be released as Blu-Ray and the price will fall dramatically.
Title: Re: WALL-E
Post by: Bar Wench on December 31, 2008, 08:47:06 AM
 Shrugs: sleep017

I can see it now, we squeezed into the teeny tiny cinema only to be bored to  sad24: by BM going on about his horizontal lines.  ::)
Title: Re: WALL-E
Post by: Barman on December 31, 2008, 09:23:17 AM
Shrugs: sleep017

I can see it now, we squeezed into the teeny tiny cinema only to be bored to  sad24: by BM going on about his horizontal lines.  ::)
You wouldn't be bored on my lap...  eyes:
Title: Re: WALL-E
Post by: Just One More on December 31, 2008, 09:40:54 AM
Shrugs: sleep017

I can see it now, we squeezed into the teeny tiny cinema only to be bored to  sad24: by BM going on about his horizontal lines.  ::)
You wouldn't be bored on my lap...  eyes:

Bored - to force or make (a passage).


Bored - to weary by dullness, tedious repetition, unwelcome attentions, etc.

 confused:

Title: Re: WALL-E
Post by: GROWLER on December 31, 2008, 09:54:45 AM
DVD's were supposed to be better than video tapes.
Quality IS marginally better granted, but nowt to get overly excited about imo.

It's the using of the useless dvd machines that's vastly inferior though. You need a degree in rocket science to use most of them, and if you take the disc out you have to watch from the beginning again, or 'shuffle' your way through.
At least tapes stop and resume systematically without ANY faffing about.

You can store tapes like books too, and read the titles at a glnace, unlike dvd crap.
Title: Re: WALL-E
Post by: Barman on December 31, 2008, 10:07:13 AM
DVD's were supposed to be better than video tapes.
Quality IS marginally better granted, but nowt to get overly excited about imo.

It's the using of the useless dvd machines that's vastly inferior though. You need a degree in rocket science to use most of them, and if you take the disc out you have to watch from the beginning again, or 'shuffle' your way through.
At least tapes stop and resume systematically without ANY faffing about.

You can store tapes like books too, and read the titles at a glnace, unlike dvd crap.
Luddite.  ::)

Most DVD players will remember where you stopped a film for the next time you play it - my Sony remembered up to 99 movies.

Blu-Ray gives even more navigation features... I love it...  cloud9:
Title: Re: WALL-E
Post by: Bar Wench on December 31, 2008, 10:27:40 AM
Can you play normal dvds on a blue-ray player?
Title: Re: WALL-E
Post by: Barman on December 31, 2008, 10:39:25 AM
Can you play normal dvds on a blue-ray player?
Not only that but it 'upscales' them to HD!  cloud9:
Title: Re: WALL-E
Post by: Snoopy on December 31, 2008, 11:01:30 AM
And can you record onto Blue Ray?
Title: Re: WALL-E
Post by: Bar Wench on December 31, 2008, 11:43:17 AM
Can you play normal dvds on a blue-ray player?
Not only that but it 'upscales' them to HD!  cloud9:

Cool, next time the dvd player breaks it would make sense to upgrade then.
Title: Re: WALL-E
Post by: Snoopy on December 31, 2008, 12:06:32 PM
But does it record and does it not also require an expensive upgrade to HD capable TV as well?
No point in playing HD Blueray if the fvcking TV can't cope with it.
Title: Re: WALL-E
Post by: Barman on December 31, 2008, 12:23:12 PM
But does it record and does it not also require an expensive upgrade to HD capable TV as well?
No point in playing HD Blueray if the fvcking TV can't cope with it.
You can already get Blu-Ray DVD writers for your PC at a reasonable cost and recorders for under your telly will be available soon...

You'll see a noticeable improvement in quality even on a standard resolution TV and as Wenchy says, it would be pointless to buy an old DVD player if your current one packs up.
Title: Re: WALL-E
Post by: Snoopy on December 31, 2008, 12:32:33 PM
DVD Player £23 (ASDA)
DVD Recorder £49 (Internet purchase)
Blue Ray Player anything from £179 to £795 (Google search)

For the moment no contest IMHO.
For the future I think I shall wait until the next generation of technology is settled in and leave the current problems to those who like beta-tasting.

One LAST thought ~ are the Blue Ray Films you are watching and programmes you are recording through your PC any different to those I already have on Video and DVD? I accept that they may look and even sound better but are they not still the same old crap that is on TV night after night? What I am asking is are you watching a remake of  "Von Ryan's Express" (for example) or the same old cliche ridden bollox that bears no resemblance to reality?
Title: Re: WALL-E
Post by: Barman on December 31, 2008, 12:40:49 PM
DVD Player £23 (ASDA)
DVD Recorder £49 (Internet purchase)
Blue Ray Player anything from £179 to £795 (Google search)

For the moment no contest IMHO.
For the future I think I shall wait until the next generation of technology is settled in and leave the current problems to those who like beta-tasting.

One LAST thought ~ are the Blue Ray Films you are watching and programmes you are recording through your PC any different to those I already have on Video and DVD? I accept that they may look and even sound better but are they not still the same old crap that is on TV night after night? What I am asking is are you watching a remake of  "Von Ryan's Express" (for example) or the same old cliche ridden bollox that bears no resemblance to reality?

::)

You'll remember that VHS players were dirt cheap when DVD came out... same thing. It may have been 'no contest' to buy a VHS player for £50 when DVD players were £179 but with hindsight it would have been money wasted.

BTW I bought my Sony player for £142 just before Xmas and it came with a number of free films.

As I mentioned earlier, it isn't 'beta testing' the HD format war is over and Blu-Ray is the clear winner.

I suspect you don't have WALL-E on video and DVD, nor Hancock, Mama Mia, etc.  ::) All the new releases will be on Blu Ray and the back catalogue of old movies is already huge. I bought Zulu for instance as the effect in HD is supposedly staggeringly good.
Title: Re: WALL-E
Post by: Snoopy on December 31, 2008, 12:49:24 PM
Children are watching Mama Mia on DVD as I type ~ one of many gifts received over the festive season from their Grandmother.



Put it down to a generation thing ~ I don't intend to spend money I don't need to spend just to be able to watch a film I do not want to watch anyway. I'm sorry but such "Technology" is only the latest development and WILL be superceded in the not very distant future.

Remember Raymond Baxter showing us CDs, scratching them with a pen knife, drawing on them with a biro and even running a tractor over one and it still played? Well that proved to be a load of bollox too because DVDs and CDs are not able to be stored permanently ~ they do degrade in quality and the data can and is being lost.
Title: Re: WALL-E
Post by: Barman on December 31, 2008, 01:06:56 PM
Children are watching Mama Mia on DVD as I type ~ one of many gifts received over the festive season from their Grandmother.



Put it down to a generation thing ~ I don't intend to spend money I don't need to spend just to be able to watch a film I do not want to watch anyway. I'm sorry but such "Technology" is only the latest development and WILL be superceded in the not very distant future.

Remember Raymond Baxter showing us CDs, scratching them with a pen knife, drawing on them with a biro and even running a tractor over one and it still played? Well that proved to be a load of bollox too because DVDs and CDs are not able to be stored permanently ~ they do degrade in quality and the data can and is being lost.
rubschin:

The point is that TV has just made its first major change in forty years...? From 625 lines to 1080 lines which you can get via digital transmission or on a disc. Blue Ray is the format which provides this new resolution on disc.

HD is not going to be replaced in the near future...  noooo:

You used CD as an example but I think you'll find they are still with us...  whistle:
Title: Re: WALL-E
Post by: Snoopy on December 31, 2008, 01:12:01 PM
Children are watching Mama Mia on DVD as I type ~ one of many gifts received over the festive season from their Grandmother.



Put it down to a generation thing ~ I don't intend to spend money I don't need to spend just to be able to watch a film I do not want to watch anyway. I'm sorry but such "Technology" is only the latest development and WILL be superceded in the not very distant future.

Remember Raymond Baxter showing us CDs, scratching them with a pen knife, drawing on them with a biro and even running a tractor over one and it still played? Well that proved to be a load of bollox too because DVDs and CDs are not able to be stored permanently ~ they do degrade in quality and the data can and is being lost.
rubschin:

The point is that TV has just made its first major change in forty years...? From 625 lines to 1080 lines which you can get via digital transmission or on a disc. Blue Ray is the format which provides this new resolution on disc.

HD is not going to be replaced in the near future...  noooo:

You used CD as an example but I think you'll find they are still with us...  whistle:

Yes they are still with us but recent reports have said that data stored on early CDs is now degrading and that the method of storage is not everlasting as it was thought. They would not, for example, still be readable in 100 years time but documents written 500 plus years ago with pen and ink are. Some sources say that data stored on CDs will be unreadable in less than 50 years. As for CDs/DVDs being indestructible ~ well we all know that is bollox. A mere fingerprint can distort the sound on a CD. Meanwhile my Vinyls and even early records are still going strong after more than 50 years ~ in some cases 60 years plus.

Anyway ~ like I said it doesn't matter 'cos I ain't in the market for BlueRay or any other form of DVD player.
Title: Re: WALL-E
Post by: Darwins Selection on December 31, 2008, 03:33:05 PM
beta-tasting

Growler and Nicks cake?
Title: Re: WALL-E
Post by: Snoopy on December 31, 2008, 03:34:50 PM
beta-tasting

Growler and Nicks cake?

With those two ~ who knows?
Title: Re: WALL-E
Post by: Nick on December 31, 2008, 04:43:33 PM
We may have to swop wives. Anyone else seen that Hitchcock film?
Title: Re: WALL-E
Post by: Barman on December 31, 2008, 04:59:57 PM
Children are watching Mama Mia on DVD as I type ~ one of many gifts received over the festive season from their Grandmother.



Put it down to a generation thing ~ I don't intend to spend money I don't need to spend just to be able to watch a film I do not want to watch anyway. I'm sorry but such "Technology" is only the latest development and WILL be superceded in the not very distant future.

Remember Raymond Baxter showing us CDs, scratching them with a pen knife, drawing on them with a biro and even running a tractor over one and it still played? Well that proved to be a load of bollox too because DVDs and CDs are not able to be stored permanently ~ they do degrade in quality and the data can and is being lost.
rubschin:

The point is that TV has just made its first major change in forty years...? From 625 lines to 1080 lines which you can get via digital transmission or on a disc. Blue Ray is the format which provides this new resolution on disc.

HD is not going to be replaced in the near future...  noooo:

You used CD as an example but I think you'll find they are still with us...  whistle:

Yes they are still with us but recent reports have said that data stored on early CDs is now degrading and that the method of storage is not everlasting as it was thought. They would not, for example, still be readable in 100 years time but documents written 500 plus years ago with pen and ink are. Some sources say that data stored on CDs will be unreadable in less than 50 years. As for CDs/DVDs being indestructible ~ well we all know that is bollox. A mere fingerprint can distort the sound on a CD. Meanwhile my Vinyls and even early records are still going strong after more than 50 years ~ in some cases 60 years plus.


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Here are some more for you to clutch at...  lol: lol: lol:

Title: Re: WALL-E
Post by: Snoopy on December 31, 2008, 05:12:21 PM
Please yourself how you want to spend your money ~ WALL-E? Is it PG or do you need an adult with you to watch it?
Title: Re: WALL-E
Post by: Barman on December 31, 2008, 05:23:33 PM
Please yourself how you want to spend your money ~ WALL-E? Is it PG or do you need an adult with you to watch it?
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Title: Re: WALL-E
Post by: Grumpmeister on January 04, 2009, 03:22:54 AM
What is this Blu Ray of which you burble?

Let me guess, Nick bought HD-DVD whistle:
Title: Re: WALL-E
Post by: Barman on January 04, 2009, 07:56:38 AM
What is this Blu Ray of which you burble?

Let me guess, Nick bought HD-DVD whistle:
lol: lol: lol:
Title: Re: WALL-E
Post by: GROWLER on January 04, 2009, 08:32:27 AM

documents written 500 plus years ago with pen and ink are. Some sources say that data stored on CDs will be unreadable in less than 50 years. As for CDs/DVDs being indestructible ~ well we all know that is bollox. A mere fingerprint can distort the sound on a CD. Meanwhile my Vinyls and even early records are still going strong after more than 50 years ~ in some cases 60 years plus.

Well said that man!

Quill parchment vinyl and Luddites rule. happy088

Only those wearing this weeks trendy high fashion statement blinkers consider all this high tech bollox to be worthwhile.

The wise money for the highest of quality and unbeatable 'high definition' is on going places and using your EYES to watch and see things live in their natural surroundings.
No tv or fancy pants dvd could possibly have come within a million miles of the stunning gorgeous scenery I ogled at LIVE up Snowdon on Thursday. cloud9:
Title: Re: WALL-E
Post by: Barman on January 04, 2009, 08:35:04 AM
Yes, well you wouldn't have seen it at night when I watched the movie would you?  ::)
Title: Re: WALL-E
Post by: GROWLER on January 04, 2009, 08:49:33 AM
Yes, well you wouldn't have seen it at night when I watched the movie would you?  ::)

Well going by what you techno freaks are saying, 'things' can't get much better now, so what you all going to do when the ultimate has been reached and the novelty has worn off?
Sony and all the other suspects are going to go bust because they haven't got anything else vastly superior to develop any further, so then the parts will become unavailable consigning all this electrical jigory pokery stuff to the tip.
Title: Re: WALL-E
Post by: Nick on January 04, 2009, 08:55:44 AM
Growler spoke approvingly of my use of audio cassettes when we met
Title: Re: WALL-E
Post by: Barman on January 04, 2009, 09:21:11 AM
Yes, well you wouldn't have seen it at night when I watched the movie would you?  ::)

Well going by what you techno freaks are saying, 'things' can't get much better now, so what you all going to do when the ultimate has been reached and the novelty has worn off?
Sony and all the other suspects are going to go bust because they haven't got anything else vastly superior to develop any further, so then the parts will become unavailable consigning all this electrical jigory pokery stuff to the tip.
You're watching a TV standard that was developed forty years ago but people haven't stopped buying tellies have they?  ::)
Title: Re: WALL-E
Post by: GROWLER on January 04, 2009, 09:36:21 AM
Yes, well you wouldn't have seen it at night when I watched the movie would you?  ::)

Well going by what you techno freaks are saying, 'things' can't get much better now, so what you all going to do when the ultimate has been reached and the novelty has worn off?
Sony and all the other suspects are going to go bust because they haven't got anything else vastly superior to develop any further, so then the parts will become unavailable consigning all this electrical jigory pokery stuff to the tip.
You're watching a TV standard that was developed forty years ago but people haven't stopped buying tellies have they?  ::)

Correct. They have to be replaced when they break yes.
I'm not saying tv's are going to become extinct, I'm just cafuffled by all this 'new alledgedly superior stuff' that is supposed to give us all a better life style. confused:
Do you feel all warm comfy and at peace with the werld after you've watched your new 'this years MUST HAVE gadgetery thingy'?
I do when I've been up one of me 'ills and seen everything in true technicolour with Growler wrap around hi fi wide sound and coupled with pure sniffability. cloud9:
Title: Re: WALL-E
Post by: Grumpmeister on January 04, 2009, 09:39:37 AM
Ah but self destructing CD's can be a good thing. Look at modern popular music, while there is good stuff out there you get swamped by manufactured popshite bands, repetitive dance crap ripping off 70's disco hits or drugged up morons who's 'best work' sounds as tortured as Snoop getting his prostate checked with a red hot poker.

Would you want to unleash that horror on future generations?
Title: Re: WALL-E
Post by: GROWLER on January 04, 2009, 09:40:18 AM
Growler spoke approvingly of my use of audio cassettes when we met

Talkin' of which, my new 'old' car has a cassette player in it, and I therefore dragged out all me old cassttes from the 60's/70's.
I thought they were supposed to become unplayable after a couple of decades? confused:
No problem here chief! Luvleee. cloud9:
Title: Re: WALL-E
Post by: GROWLER on January 04, 2009, 09:43:52 AM
Ah but self destructing CD's can be a good thing. Look at modern popular music, while there is good stuff out there you get swamped by manufactured popshite bands, repetitive dance crap ripping off 70's disco hits or drugged up morons who's 'best work' sounds as tortured as Snoop getting his prostate checked with a red hot poker.


Talking of which. I think a trip to the quacks beckons for me this week. scared2:

Thanks for the reminder on something I've been trying to forget and put off....you know, a manly denial type thing. whistle:
Title: Re: WALL-E
Post by: Barman on January 04, 2009, 09:45:44 AM
Yes, well you wouldn't have seen it at night when I watched the movie would you?  ::)

Well going by what you techno freaks are saying, 'things' can't get much better now, so what you all going to do when the ultimate has been reached and the novelty has worn off?
Sony and all the other suspects are going to go bust because they haven't got anything else vastly superior to develop any further, so then the parts will become unavailable consigning all this electrical jigory pokery stuff to the tip.
You're watching a TV standard that was developed forty years ago but people haven't stopped buying tellies have they?  ::)

Correct. They have to be replaced when they break yes.
I'm not saying tv's are going to become extinct, I'm just cafuffled by all this 'new alledgedly superior stuff' that is supposed to give us all a better life style. confused:
Do you feel all warm comfy and at peace with the werld after you've watched your new 'this years MUST HAVE gadgetery thingy'?
I do when I've been up one of me 'ills and seen everything in true technicolour with Growler wrap around hi fi wide sound and coupled with pure sniffability. cloud9:
I think you are comparing chalk and cheese and confusing yourself...  noooo:

I don't think (nor did I say) that Blu-Ray gave me a better life... I'm a long-term (>20 years) Hi-Fi and cinema enthusiast and Blu-Ray is the next, logical, significant step forward which provides better picture and sound than have previously been available. I undoubtedly get more enjoyment from the 'cinema experience' with Blu-Ray than was possible with my previous player (though there have been other 'enhancements' over the past four years since I bought it that I have not purchased).

On the other hand I love the outdoors and walking across the island - we're incredibly fortunate here in that we have mountains, forests and miles of coastline which are all unfenced and accessible. We also have little light pollution which allows the most amazing stargazing experiences in the evenings... I love that and appreciate it but it is separate from my love of cinema.

So, two very different things...
Title: Re: WALL-E
Post by: Nick on January 04, 2009, 09:50:03 AM
He also watches goat DVDs when it's too scorchio outside
Title: Re: WALL-E
Post by: GROWLER on January 04, 2009, 09:54:33 AM
Yes BM, and you are very fortunate, and am pleased you also enjoy the outdoor life too! cloud9:
Shame many others are either not as fortunate as us that appreciate it all, or are just too bloody bone idle and / or ignorant to get out and see what the world has to offer......LIVE and in front of their very own eyes.
I'm not really critising you for your love of all this modern hi tech stuff, just a bit bemused/amused by it all that's all.
I suppose I'm a bit like that over cars tbh, not that I'm a particulary big fan of the modern electrical shite that is now fitted to them as standard.
I just see all the complications in user unfriendliness, unreliability, and the inabilty to fix stuff when it breaks. It angers and annoys the shit out of me tbh. cussing:
Built in life span and impossible to fix without all the right expensive and complicated equipment has stiched us all up.... us techno freaks and car lovers alike are well and truly stuffed and cornered by manufacturers now. Banghead

Rememeber those halcyon days when the tv broke and it was just a matter of replacing a valve, or the car was difficult to start so you replaced the plugs points and condensor. Bliss. cloud9:
Title: Re: WALL-E
Post by: Mrs TG on January 04, 2009, 12:03:28 PM
A supposedly superior format of DVD that gives better visual and sound effects from DVDs that cost about three times as much as ordinary DVDs.
If you remember the arguments about Betamax versus VCR ~ Blue Ray is one side of a debate about what follows DVD.
TBH given my aging hearing and sight I doubt that I would notice much difference for the extra money but gadget freaks love it ... until something else comes along.
Not quite as you describe hound…  noooo:

New High Definition TVs can display up to 1,080 horizontal lines whereas the old telly standard we’ve had for what, forty years or so could only show 625 lines.

The old DVD standard of which you speak could only produce 576 horizontal picture lines so a new standard was required that could match the quality of new HD televisions.

There has already been a battle similar to the betamax VHS one that we remember well. This time the two players (snigger) were HD DVD and Blu-Ray DVD, both backed by different Japanese manufacturers and film studios.

The ‘battle’ has been won recently by Blu-Ray.

Blu-Ray offers five times the storage of a normal DVD which allows high definition video and audio storage. A Blu-Ray disc can display (on the appropriate TV or projector) 1,080 non-interlaced horizontal picture lines and multiple audio tracks plus loads of extras.

The difference between a normal DVD and HD DVD is absolutely staggering, almost twice the resolution of an old DVD – even the hound’s old eyes will notice the difference.

Modern players (like my new Sony) can also ‘upscale’ standard definition (SD) DVDs to the 1080 standard too.

Soon all DVDs will be released as Blu-Ray and the price will fall dramatically.


The picture quality and sound are amazing, we use the ps3, so not had to buy a seperate player
some people wont move on with times! Do you still have a mangle???  rubschin:
Title: Re: WALL-E
Post by: Nick on January 04, 2009, 12:34:06 PM
I still read books. Made of paper with black squiggles on. YOu have to werk them by hand
Title: Re: WALL-E
Post by: Snoopy on January 04, 2009, 12:35:01 PM
A supposedly superior format of DVD that gives better visual and sound effects from DVDs that cost about three times as much as ordinary DVDs.
If you remember the arguments about Betamax versus VCR ~ Blue Ray is one side of a debate about what follows DVD.
TBH given my aging hearing and sight I doubt that I would notice much difference for the extra money but gadget freaks love it ... until something else comes along.
Not quite as you describe hound…  noooo:

New High Definition TVs can display up to 1,080 horizontal lines whereas the old telly standard we’ve had for what, forty years or so could only show 625 lines.

The old DVD standard of which you speak could only produce 576 horizontal picture lines so a new standard was required that could match the quality of new HD televisions.

There has already been a battle similar to the betamax VHS one that we remember well. This time the two players (snigger) were HD DVD and Blu-Ray DVD, both backed by different Japanese manufacturers and film studios.

The ‘battle’ has been won recently by Blu-Ray.

Blu-Ray offers five times the storage of a normal DVD which allows high definition video and audio storage. A Blu-Ray disc can display (on the appropriate TV or projector) 1,080 non-interlaced horizontal picture lines and multiple audio tracks plus loads of extras.

The difference between a normal DVD and HD DVD is absolutely staggering, almost twice the resolution of an old DVD – even the hound’s old eyes will notice the difference.

Modern players (like my new Sony) can also ‘upscale’ standard definition (SD) DVDs to the 1080 standard too.

Soon all DVDs will be released as Blu-Ray and the price will fall dramatically.


The picture quality and sound are amazing, we use the ps3, so not had to buy a seperate player
some people wont move on with times! Do you still have a mangle???  rubschin:

She prefers to be called a wife but yes.
Title: Re: WALL-E
Post by: GROWLER on January 04, 2009, 12:44:49 PM
I still read books. Made of paper with black squiggles on. YOu have to werk them by hand
bought any new ones lately? ;)
Title: Re: WALL-E
Post by: Nick on January 04, 2009, 12:49:01 PM
Yes, I have been reading it this morning

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Great-Railway-Bazaar-Through-Classics/dp/0141189142/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1231073277&sr=8-5 (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Great-Railway-Bazaar-Through-Classics/dp/0141189142/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1231073277&sr=8-5)
Title: Re: WALL-E
Post by: Snoopy on January 04, 2009, 01:17:56 PM
I have recently finished "A Girl Like Me" by Diana Melly. Having recently read all of George Melly's autobiogs to read his wife's account was interesting to say the least.

I have also now finished another of my Christmas Books ~ "Spilling the Beans" by Clarissa Dickson Wright ~ Another auto biog I'm afraid but I like them and this one is a fascinating insight into one of the Two Fat Ladies ~ What a life!  eeek:
She trained as a barrister alongside Tony Blair who she refers to throughout by his then nickname of "Miranda". She says he is the only man she ever found truly frightening and the only person she ever encountered without a single redeeming grace.

Soooooo ~ No time for TV ...... whether Blueray or not.
Title: Re: WALL-E
Post by: Nick on January 04, 2009, 01:33:02 PM
I presume she tells her story of the quinine overdose  whistle:
Title: Re: WALL-E
Post by: Snoopy on January 04, 2009, 01:34:11 PM
I presume she tells her story of the quinine overdose  whistle:

Yes but we all knew that anyway as she had mentioned it on TV a couple of times.
Title: Re: WALL-E
Post by: GROWLER on January 04, 2009, 02:12:44 PM
Yes, I have been reading it this morning

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Great-Railway-Bazaar-Through-Classics/dp/0141189142/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1231073277&sr=8-5 (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Great-Railway-Bazaar-Through-Classics/dp/0141189142/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1231073277&sr=8-5)

Is that that train that goes across the top of the werld like. Takes about a week to complete it's journey?
I need to go on that.  cloud9:
Title: Re: WALL-E
Post by: Snoopy on January 04, 2009, 02:36:30 PM
Anyone with a liking for history and laughing should read this one. If you don't know your history ~ don't bother as it will mean nothing to you. IMHO better than "1066 and All That"
It is my current book at bedtime.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Utterly-Impartial-History-Britain-Idiots/dp/0552773964/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1231079673&sr=8-1
Title: Re: WALL-E
Post by: Snoopy on January 05, 2009, 08:49:57 AM
Well ~ who would have believed it?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/7750581.stm  whistle:
Title: Re: WALL-E
Post by: Barman on January 05, 2009, 09:00:37 AM
Ahhh.... happy days....  cloud9:

The record deck with about ten singles stacked-up on the top thingy...

By the time the third was playing all the warps were working against each other and the stylus was up and down like a whores knickers...  lol:
Title: Re: WALL-E
Post by: TG on January 05, 2009, 12:22:27 PM
Anyone with a liking for history and laughing should read this one. If you don't know your history ~ don't bother as it will mean nothing to you. IMHO better than "1066 and All That"
It is my current book at bedtime.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Utterly-Impartial-History-Britain-Idiots/dp/0552773964/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1231079673&sr=8-1

I read that last year. Bloody funny.  happy088

I haven't read '1066 & all that' though. Can you get it on Blu-Ray?
Title: Re: WALL-E
Post by: Barman on January 05, 2009, 12:25:49 PM
Anyone with a liking for history and laughing should read this one. If you don't know your history ~ don't bother as it will mean nothing to you. IMHO better than "1066 and All That"
It is my current book at bedtime.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Utterly-Impartial-History-Britain-Idiots/dp/0552773964/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1231079673&sr=8-1

I read that last year. Bloody funny.  happy088

I haven't read '1066 & all that' though. Can you get it on Blu-Ray?
doh:
Title: Re: WALL-E
Post by: Snoopy on January 05, 2009, 12:31:39 PM
Anyone with a liking for history and laughing should read this one. If you don't know your history ~ don't bother as it will mean nothing to you. IMHO better than "1066 and All That"
It is my current book at bedtime.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Utterly-Impartial-History-Britain-Idiots/dp/0552773964/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1231079673&sr=8-1

I read that last year. Bloody funny.  happy088

I haven't read '1066 & all that' though. Can you get it on Blu-Ray?
doh:

 happy001
Title: Re: WALL-E
Post by: Darwins Selection on January 05, 2009, 01:04:40 PM
Anyone with a liking for history and laughing should read this one. If you don't know your history ~ don't bother as it will mean nothing to you. IMHO better than "1066 and All That"
It is my current book at bedtime.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Utterly-Impartial-History-Britain-Idiots/dp/0552773964/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1231079673&sr=8-1

I read that last year. Bloody funny.  happy088

I haven't read '1066 & all that' though. Can you get it on Blu-Ray?
doh:

 happy001
drumroll: drumroll:
Title: Re: WALL-E
Post by: Grumpmeister on January 05, 2009, 01:09:29 PM
Anyone with a liking for history and laughing should read this one. If you don't know your history ~ don't bother as it will mean nothing to you. IMHO better than "1066 and All That"
It is my current book at bedtime.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Utterly-Impartial-History-Britain-Idiots/dp/0552773964/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1231079673&sr=8-1

I read that last year. Bloody funny.  happy088

I haven't read '1066 & all that' though. Can you get it on Blu-Ray?
doh:

 happy001
drumroll: drumroll:

 happ096
Title: Re: WALL-E
Post by: Barman on January 05, 2009, 02:15:47 PM
I wish I'd never mentioned Bly-Ray... trying to educate you lot... mutter, mutter... technology...mutter...  evil:
Title: Re: WALL-E
Post by: Grumpmeister on January 05, 2009, 02:19:27 PM
I wish I'd never mentioned Bly-Ray... trying to educate you lot... mutter, mutter... technology...mutter...  evil:

Is that anything like Blu-Ray?  whistle:
Title: Re: WALL-E
Post by: Barman on January 05, 2009, 02:23:17 PM
I wish I'd never mentioned Bly-Ray... trying to educate you lot... mutter, mutter... technology...mutter...  evil:

Is that anything like Blu-Ray?  whistle:

No!












 redface:
Title: Re: WALL-E
Post by: Snoopy on January 05, 2009, 02:24:05 PM
Oooooooooooh! Touchy! Got the decorators in have we?
Title: Re: WALL-E
Post by: Grumpmeister on January 05, 2009, 02:42:18 PM
Electricians more like hound  whistle:
Title: Re: WALL-E
Post by: Barman on January 05, 2009, 03:11:15 PM
Oooooooooooh! Touchy! Got the decorators in have we?
No, I'm still doing it myself...  Banghead
Title: Re: WALL-E
Post by: Darwins Selection on January 05, 2009, 03:55:24 PM
Oooooooooooh! Touchy! Got the decorators in have we?
No, I'm still doing it myself...  Banghead
LL got the painters in then?
Title: Re: WALL-E
Post by: Snoopy on January 05, 2009, 03:58:30 PM
Oooooooooooh! Touchy! Got the decorators in have we?
No, I'm still doing it myself...  Banghead
LL got the painters in then?
<snigger>
Title: Re: WALL-E
Post by: Barman on January 05, 2009, 04:03:42 PM
< groan >   ::)
Title: Re: WALL-E
Post by: Grumpmeister on January 05, 2009, 07:14:13 PM
Maybe we should stop picking on BM before he pulls his hair out.










On the other hand that last remaining strand must be feeling pretty lonely...  whistle:
Title: Re: WALL-E
Post by: GROWLER on January 05, 2009, 07:21:59 PM
I wish I'd never mentioned Bly-Ray... trying to educate you lot... mutter, mutter... technology...mutter...  evil:

Strangely enuf like..... rubschin:

Stupid bloody useless gormless name anyway. Sounds like a bloody fish. ::)
Title: Re: WALL-E
Post by: Grumpmeister on January 05, 2009, 07:24:28 PM
Its the colour of the laser used to read the disk Growler. Standard DVD and CD players use a red beam.
Title: Re: WALL-E
Post by: Nick on January 05, 2009, 08:21:23 PM
That is soooooooo interesting sleep017
Title: Re: WALL-E
Post by: GROWLER on January 06, 2009, 12:07:19 AM
Its the colour of the laser used to read the disk Growler. Standard DVD and CD players use a red beam.

Really? How mind bogglin' is THAT then!? eeek:

My life is hereby changed forever. ::)





Before I nod off with all this excitement like, can you very very briefly explain why that is so important, if indeed it's important at all in fact...to you techno 'eds that is, not this cave man.
Title: Re: WALL-E
Post by: Barman on January 06, 2009, 07:08:26 AM
Its the colour of the laser used to read the disk Growler. Standard DVD and CD players use a red beam.

Really? How mind bogglin' is THAT then!? eeek:

My life is hereby changed forever. ::)





Before I nod off with all this excitement like, can you very very briefly explain why that is so important, if indeed it's important at all in fact...to you techno 'eds that is, not this cave man.

 cloud9: cloud9: cloud9:

Well, as you ask Growler...

A normal DVD has a red laser with a wavelength of 650nm. The technology has reached a point where the wavelength of light is th limiting factor on how close you can put the tracks on the disc!

A Blu-Ray player uses a blue-violet laser with a wavelength of 'only' 450nm... It allws the 'tracks' on the disc to be placed closer together and hence each disc can hold more data. A Blu-Ray disc can hold five times as much data as a standard DVD...

Okay...?
Title: Re: WALL-E
Post by: Nick on January 06, 2009, 08:39:58 AM
 sleep017
Title: Re: WALL-E
Post by: Barman on January 06, 2009, 08:48:36 AM
sleep017
Are we keeping you up...?