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Title: A good day to announce an expenses cover-up
Post by: Barman on January 16, 2009, 11:32:39 AM
I linked to this in the 'Heathrow' thread but it is so disgusting it really shouldn't be allowed to drop...  noooo:

Quote from: Times On-Line
Remember the clampdown on MPs expenses which was promised after it emerged Derek Conway was paying his sons to work for him? Full transparency and an end to the John Lewis list? Well a year later, and on a busy newsday, Harriet Harman has announced the watering down almost all the restrictions.

According to a document unveiled with no fanfare on the same day as the Heathrow announcement, the House is preparing to block the publication of all receipts for MPs expenses, which had been ordered by an Information Tribunal.

Read it and weep...  (http://timesonline.typepad.com/politics/2009/01/a-good-day-to-a.html)

Utter, utter, utter bastards!  cussing:
Title: Re: A good day to announce an expenses cover-up
Post by: Snoopy on January 16, 2009, 11:40:34 AM
Yes I saw that too. Utter Utter Utter Utter Bastards.  cussing:
Title: Re: A good day to announce an expenses cover-up
Post by: Nick on January 16, 2009, 11:41:04 AM
I fear they will get away with it too, the utter bastards. I did my tax the other day. Will HMRC let me claim expenses without receipts?

Of course not  cussing:
Title: Re: A good day to announce an expenses cover-up
Post by: GROWLER on January 16, 2009, 01:22:00 PM
** No receipts to be submitted for items costing under £25. "It has been argued that it would be excessively burdensome for Members to have provided receipts for all transactions

Are these absolute and utter piss taking thieving arse wipe bastards for real? eeek:

I've just endured instant combustion in the nether regions. cussing:
Title: Re: A good day to announce an expenses cover-up
Post by: Nick on January 16, 2009, 01:28:46 PM
I have a fire extinguisher  angel1
Title: Re: A good day to announce an expenses cover-up
Post by: Uncle Mort on January 16, 2009, 01:29:13 PM
Quote from: The Independent
Officials had planned to release a full breakdown of MPs' expenses, down to the last receipt, after the Commons authorities lost a three-year legal battle over FOI requests demanding disclosure of a receipt-by-receipt breakdown of MPs' spending on second homes.

However, the autumn deadline for publication passed, with officials complaining that the process of scanning and redaction – expected to cost about £1m – was proving even more complex than first thought.


Delaying tactics no doubt.

£1m to scan a few documents? and why the need for redaction?  Surely thay have nothing to hide?
Title: Re: A good day to announce an expenses cover-up
Post by: Nick on January 16, 2009, 01:35:47 PM
Perish the thought. Mandelson, Derek Conway, The Balls Brothers...................................................
Title: Re: A good day to announce an expenses cover-up
Post by: Uncle Mort on January 16, 2009, 01:42:11 PM
The stress of government taking it's toll I see.

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Shame  lol:
Title: Re: A good day to announce an expenses cover-up
Post by: Nick on January 16, 2009, 01:45:44 PM
Is that Harman or Jacqui Smith?  rubschin:
Title: Re: A good day to announce an expenses cover-up
Post by: Snoopy on January 16, 2009, 01:52:49 PM
Raddled
Title: Re: A good day to announce an expenses cover-up
Post by: Grumpmeister on January 21, 2009, 10:19:42 AM
I see that the clunking fist is now being used to force the cover up through parliament. So just what are these 'other' considerations Gordo?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/politics/7841702.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/politics/7841702.stm)

Title: Re: A good day to announce an expenses cover-up
Post by: Uncle Mort on January 21, 2009, 12:50:45 PM
So just what are these 'other' considerations Gordo?

From the BBC PMQT page:

Quote
Mrs Beckett says more information about every MP will be published than ever before. She says there are security reasons, not for MPs but for people who work with them. She says if every receipt has been gone through to remove names of workmen with keys to MPs' homes, she says the Department of Finance would have to be "trebled in size

 happy001
Title: Re: A good day to announce an expenses cover-up
Post by: Barman on January 21, 2009, 12:52:17 PM
So just what are these 'other' considerations Gordo?

From the BBC PMQT page:

Quote
Mrs Beckett says more information about every MP will be published than ever before. She says there are security reasons, not for MPs but for people who work with them. She says if every receipt has been gone through to remove names of workmen with keys to MPs' homes, she says the Department of Finance would have to be "trebled in size

 happy001
Completely outrageous...  noooo:
Title: Re: A good day to announce an expenses cover-up
Post by: Barman on January 21, 2009, 12:54:28 PM
And only 32 of them against it... (http://edmi.parliament.uk/EDMi/EDMDetails.aspx?EDMID=37516&SESSION=899)  Angry9:
Title: Re: A good day to announce an expenses cover-up
Post by: Snoopy on January 21, 2009, 12:59:15 PM
To be honest we don't want to see the receipts, we don't want to see the tradesmen's names, we don't even want to see the addresses. What we want is to see how much they are spending and on what.
Title: Re: A good day to announce an expenses cover-up
Post by: Nick on January 21, 2009, 01:30:48 PM
Plan B?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7842402.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7842402.stm)
Title: Re: A good day to announce an expenses cover-up
Post by: Barman on January 21, 2009, 01:32:36 PM
I was just going to post that!

Brown backs down in expenses row

 cloud9:
Title: Re: A good day to announce an expenses cover-up
Post by: Nick on January 21, 2009, 01:33:00 PM
Yes, but they will find a new wriggle  evil:
Title: Re: A good day to announce an expenses cover-up
Post by: Uncle Mort on January 21, 2009, 01:39:41 PM
Faffing about by the sounds of it.
Title: Re: A good day to announce an expenses cover-up
Post by: grumpyoldsoldier on January 26, 2009, 07:32:54 PM
We are becoming a third world nation on par with Nigeria, all politicians and those in the House of Lords are on a back handers.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7850428.stm
 I bloody despair at the state of this nation
Title: Re: A good day to announce an expenses cover-up
Post by: Barman on January 26, 2009, 07:38:35 PM
We are becoming a third world nation on par with Nigeria, all politicians and those in the House of Lords are on a back handers.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7850428.stm
 I bloody despair at the state of this nation
Agreed.

Shocking.

He says he has done no wrong...  noooo:

There should be an immediate investigation into their finances...  cussing:
Title: Re: A good day to announce an expenses cover-up
Post by: grumpyoldsoldier on January 26, 2009, 07:42:35 PM
I gather that if they are found to be taking back handers nothing will or can be done about it, it makes my blood boil cussing:
Title: Re: A good day to announce an expenses cover-up
Post by: Barman on January 26, 2009, 07:45:13 PM
I gather that if they are found to be taking back handers nothing will or can be done about it, it makes my blood boil cussing:
Well, they say there are no regulations covering their conduct... how about fraud, tax evasion, etc? Start looking at their bloody bank accounts and lifestyles and see if anything is amiss...  cussing:
Title: Re: A good day to announce an expenses cover-up
Post by: Darwins Selection on January 26, 2009, 08:11:37 PM
I really wish I was shocked and surprised.  cry:

Ermine-covered crooks.  evil:
Title: Re: A good day to announce an expenses cover-up
Post by: Barman on January 26, 2009, 08:15:42 PM
The Devil's Kitchen sums up my views on it nicely here... (http://devilskitchen.me.uk/)

Warning - foul language and the 'c' word!

Quote from: Devil's Kitchen
These people are cunts and they must be removed. All of them. Our Parliament is corrupt to the core and rotting from the ground up. Our legislators serve no purpose but to enrich themselves and, if it requires them to put the sell us into slavery, then they will happily do so.

This has gone beyond a little light-fingered thieving: this is the selling of policy to corporate interests for money; this is collusion with big business to enslave the nation: this is fascism.

Raze the entire place to the fucking ground and hang every single inhabitant: let there be a bonfire of their vanities. These people are colluding against the people of Britain for their own selfish gain and there is now surely no reason to tolerate this disgusting state of affairs.

It's time to clear out the rot and start again.
Title: Re: A good day to announce an expenses cover-up
Post by: Nick on January 26, 2009, 09:18:31 PM
I really wish I was shocked and surprised.  cry:

Ermine-covered crooks.  evil:

Not that nice Mr Mandelson, surely?  eeek:
Title: Re: A good day to announce an expenses cover-up
Post by: Barman on January 27, 2009, 05:13:53 AM
I really wish I was shocked and surprised.  cry:

Ermine-covered crooks.  evil:

Not that nice Mr Mandelson, surely?  eeek:
Especially that  censored: