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Title: Dialing from abroad
Post by: GROWLER on February 09, 2009, 09:55:09 PM
Miss Moose is going on her jolly holiday on Saturday and has asked me how she texts home.  lol:

Apparently, so Orange say like, you have to dial in +44 and then knock off the first zero.
Trouble is, there isn't a + on a mobile phone key pad, so what the hell are they rambling on about ey?
Is she best getting one of them pay as you nag foreign sim cards while she's over there too?

She's not even supposed to be taking her phone with her for some strange reason. confused:
Title: Re: Dialing from abroad
Post by: Barman on February 09, 2009, 10:01:35 PM
Miss Moose is going on her jolly holiday on Saturday and has asked me how she texts home.  lol:

Apparently, so Orange say like, you have to dial in +44 and then knock off the first zero.
Trouble is, there isn't a + on a mobile phone key pad, so what the hell are they rambling on about ey?
Is she best getting one of them pay as you nag foreign sim cards while she's over there too?

She's not even supposed to be taking her phone with her for some strange reason. confused:
The '+' is the International Dialing Code... generally it is '00'... so from here we dial 00 44 (then drop the leading zero)...

So to dial a number in Maidenhead (01628 code) we'd dial 00 44 1628 6xxxxx

OK?

Roaming charges are often extortionate so she would be better buying a PAYG local SIM
Title: Re: Dialing from abroad
Post by: GROWLER on February 09, 2009, 10:09:42 PM
Miss Moose is going on her jolly holiday on Saturday and has asked me how she texts home.  lol:

Apparently, so Orange say like, you have to dial in +44 and then knock off the first zero.
Trouble is, there isn't a + on a mobile phone key pad, so what the hell are they rambling on about ey?
Is she best getting one of them pay as you nag foreign sim cards while she's over there too?

She's not even supposed to be taking her phone with her for some strange reason. confused:
The '+' is the International Dialing Code... generally it is '00'... so from here we dial 00 44 (then drop the leading zero)...

So to dial a number in Maidenhead (01628 code) we'd dial 00 44 1628 6xxxxx

OK?

Roaming charges are often extortionate so she would be better buying a PAYG local SIM

So why don't they just say that instead of saying +44, bloody useless pillocks.
Caused mucho agitatation here tonight it has. ::)
Title: Re: Dialing from abroad
Post by: Barman on February 09, 2009, 10:12:25 PM
Miss Moose is going on her jolly holiday on Saturday and has asked me how she texts home.  lol:

Apparently, so Orange say like, you have to dial in +44 and then knock off the first zero.
Trouble is, there isn't a + on a mobile phone key pad, so what the hell are they rambling on about ey?
Is she best getting one of them pay as you nag foreign sim cards while she's over there too?

She's not even supposed to be taking her phone with her for some strange reason. confused:
The '+' is the International Dialing Code... generally it is '00'... so from here we dial 00 44 (then drop the leading zero)...

So to dial a number in Maidenhead (01628 code) we'd dial 00 44 1628 6xxxxx

OK?

Roaming charges are often extortionate so she would be better buying a PAYG local SIM

So why don't they just say that instead of saying +44, bloody useless pillocks.
Caused mucho agitatation here tonight it has. ::)
In the olden days there used to be a key on telex machines that did the '+' thing for international um, telexes...

I think that is the reason, it has just hung on....

I used to be the Whizz on the telex!  cloud9:
Title: Re: Dialing from abroad
Post by: Bar Wench on February 09, 2009, 10:12:44 PM
0044 then knock off the zero in front of your number.

The reason for them not wanting her to take it is probably two fold.
1) Theft possibilities
2) The whacking great bill they could run up.

If this is a school holiday and they've said no mobs and she is found with it it will most likely be confiscated. And if she is out searching for a local PAYG sim then they will find out. Plus some uk phones are locked to a network and even a payg sim on the same network abroad won't work with them.
Title: Re: Dialing from abroad
Post by: GROWLER on February 09, 2009, 10:33:02 PM
0044 then knock off the zero in front of your number.

The reason for them not wanting her to take it is probably two fold.
1) Theft possibilities
2) The whacking great bill they could run up.

If this is a school holiday and they've said no mobs and she is found with it it will most likely be confiscated. And if she is out searching for a local PAYG sim then they will find out. Plus some uk phones are locked to a network and even a payg sim on the same network abroad won't work with them.

Oh. I'll tell her. She'll be most delighted....NOT.

She wants to take her phone as she feels it'll be some sort of comfort knowing she can text us, and Mrs Growler likewise back, that's all.
First time she'll have been way from home on her own, so she's obviously a bit pensive.

As for the phone gettin' nicked, well if that's all that's nicked we'll be 'appy, considering some of the more expensive clobber she's taking.
Someone suggested it might be in case of an accident to one of the other kids, thus preventing them from ringing home with exagerated stories of death and destruction. ::)

There's going to be a bitter sweet atmosphere around Growler Towers from Saturday onwards.
Mrs G is losing her best friend and support for the ongoing war against me whilst I'll be basking in the delight of not falling over all of her shite for 9 days! happy088

Meanwhile, Growler Jnr is planning a party in celebration of her departure, and sincerley hopes she doesn't come back. eeek:
Title: Re: Dialing from abroad
Post by: Bar Wench on February 09, 2009, 10:39:57 PM
I can totally understand why she would want to take it. I would have done on school trips if I'd had a mobile too. It is certainly worth trying the payg sim thing but it is in no way guaranteed, but her best bet is to try to get the same network as her phone is on.

Failing that get her a phone card. It basically links to your home bill and sort of works as reverse charge calling. She can call home every night then if needs be.

Mr Wench also says another reason that mobs/phone calls home are "discouraged" is because they can actually make homesick kids worse. They experimented last year with disallowing home contact until the day before they came home and the kids were either far more robust of the theory did actually work. Of course if there was an actual need for the kids to call their parents they would be allowed. And the one child who did wake up in the night badly homesick was given permission to use Mr Wench's mob.
Title: Re: Dialing from abroad
Post by: Darwins Selection on February 09, 2009, 10:54:14 PM
Errrrr...

There is a + on the phone keyboard and as far as I know you do have to use it for international dialling.

I always have.

On my Nokia you press the bottom left (*) key twice.

Title: Re: Dialing from abroad
Post by: GROWLER on February 09, 2009, 10:54:32 PM
I can totally understand why she would want to take it. I would have done on school trips if I'd had a mobile too. It is certainly worth trying the payg sim thing but it is in no way guaranteed, but her best bet is to try to get the same network as her phone is on.

Failing that get her a phone card. It basically links to your home bill and sort of works as reverse charge calling. She can call home every night then if needs be.

Mr Wench also says another reason that mobs/phone calls home are "discouraged" is because they can actually make homesick kids worse. They experimented last year with disallowing home contact until the day before they came home and the kids were either far more robust of the theory did actually work. Of course if there was an actual need for the kids to call their parents they would be allowed. And the one child who did wake up in the night badly homesick was given permission to use Mr Wench's mob.

I can see his point there tbh. I'll have a werd, but fear Mrs G has instilled it into her now that it's ok. ::)

I'm quite looking forward to receiving the 'come and get me now' call.
Always wanted an excuse to drive around the Alps in the snow. cloud9:

Sorry my little one, it could take me several days to reach you, but I am on me way....ish. lol:


"On days like these,... lah lah, de dah, de lah de lah." cloud9:
Title: Re: Dialing from abroad
Post by: GROWLER on February 09, 2009, 11:01:07 PM
Errrrr...

There is a + on the phone keyboard and as far as I know you do have to use it for international dialling.

I always have.

On my Nokia you press the bottom left (*) key twice.



Ey up smart arse. You're correct! redface:
# is first with a tiny + underneath it. Press twice quickly and it werks.
Well on my phone it does, but Miss Moose's phone it doesn't do it. ::)
Title: Re: Dialing from abroad
Post by: Snoopy on February 10, 2009, 10:05:30 AM
Wenchy is right ~ all the trips that my kids have been on (France, Cub Camps etc) mobiles have been banned for the reasons of (i) security of the child who may be mugged if seen using a mobile (ii) to prevent home sickness and (iii) because kids with mobiles are a fecking nuisance.

All trips have a designated phone carrier (usually a teacher or group leader) and the number is given to parents who may need reassurance that they can get in touch in an emergency. Rest assured if anything is wrong they will get in touch with you very promptly.

Tell Mrs Growler that she is in danger of becoming what is known in the trade as a "Helicopter Parent" because they are forever hovering over the kids instead of allowing them to develop on their own.
Title: Re: Dialing from abroad
Post by: GROWLER on February 10, 2009, 10:31:01 AM
Wenchy is right ~ all the trips that my kids have been on (France, Cub Camps etc) mobiles have been banned for the reasons of (i) security of the child who may be mugged if seen using a mobile (ii) to prevent home sickness and (iii) because kids with mobiles are a fecking nuisance.

All trips have a designated phone carrier (usually a teacher or group leader) and the number is given to parents who may need reassurance that they can get in touch in an emergency. Rest assured if anything is wrong they will get in touch with you very promptly.

Tell Mrs Growler that she is in danger of becoming what is known in the trade as a "Helicopter Parent" because they are forever hovering over the kids instead of allowing them to develop on their own.

I'll pm our phone number, and you can tell her yourself like.  whistle:
Title: Re: Dialing from abroad
Post by: Snoopy on February 10, 2009, 10:38:00 AM
So why does she think that encouraging the child to break school rules is a good idea ~ given that the one thing we all agree on is the lack of discipline in the young is what is wrong with our society?

Rules are there for a reason and if you really disagree then you don't let the child go on the trip. Allowing her to go says that you accept the rules. (By you I mean Mrs G)
Title: Re: Dialing from abroad
Post by: Bar Wench on February 10, 2009, 10:52:01 AM
Tell Mrs Growler that she is in danger of becoming what is known in the trade as a "Helicopter Parent" because they are forever hovering over the kids instead of allowing them to develop on their own.

Mr Wench had two of those at parents evening yesterday.  noooo:
Title: Re: Dialing from abroad
Post by: Barman on February 10, 2009, 10:53:17 AM
So why does she think that encouraging the child to break school rules is a good idea ~ given that the one thing we all agree on is the lack of discipline in the young is what is wrong with our society?

Rules are there for a reason and if you really disagree then you don't let the child go on the trip. Allowing her to go says that you accept the rules. (By you I mean Mrs G)
Excellent points well made IMHO Snoops!  happy088
Title: Re: Dialing from abroad
Post by: Snoopy on February 10, 2009, 11:11:23 AM
Anywhoo the people we have to convince are not reading this. Growler knows we are on his side.
Title: Re: Dialing from abroad
Post by: Nick on February 10, 2009, 11:14:01 AM
For some reason this reminds me of the time I nearly ended up as a backing singer for the Pope. Long story  noooo:
Title: Re: Dialing from abroad
Post by: Snoopy on February 10, 2009, 11:17:39 AM
Let me guess ~ your mobile phone rang at the wrong moment and they threw you out of the choir.  noooo:
Title: Re: Dialing from abroad
Post by: Nick on February 10, 2009, 11:19:14 AM
No, I got a tropical disease in Yorkshire and all my hair and fingernails and toenails fell out  sad24:
Title: Re: Dialing from abroad
Post by: Snoopy on February 10, 2009, 11:21:03 AM
Which at least proves all I have ever said about Yorkshire ~ Birthplace of SWUTWTBO (She who used to want to be obeyed)
Title: Re: Dialing from abroad
Post by: Nick on February 10, 2009, 11:22:01 AM
I am not going near Pontefract again, that's for sure  scared2:

Six months off work!
Title: Re: Dialing from abroad
Post by: Snoopy on February 10, 2009, 11:23:10 AM
Prolly all that liquorice in the air.
Title: Re: Dialing from abroad
Post by: Nick on February 10, 2009, 11:26:52 AM
At least my hair grew back  whistle:
Title: Re: Dialing from abroad
Post by: Snoopy on February 10, 2009, 11:31:01 AM
But not the nails?  eeek:
Title: Re: Dialing from abroad
Post by: Nick on February 10, 2009, 11:35:30 AM
Yes, and the nails too  ::)
Title: Re: Dialing from abroad
Post by: Snoopy on February 10, 2009, 11:38:15 AM
That's a relief~ why did the hair grow back as a beard though?
Title: Re: Dialing from abroad
Post by: Nick on February 10, 2009, 11:40:21 AM
I lost all my body hair (all of it) and it came back later as normal
Title: Re: Dialing from abroad
Post by: Snoopy on February 10, 2009, 11:42:24 AM
As a teenager Mrs S#2 lost all her skin. Woke up one morning to find her skin was all over the bed. Never did find out why but fortunately it grew back, or she would still be leaking all over the place.
Title: Re: Dialing from abroad
Post by: Barman on February 10, 2009, 12:09:37 PM
As a teenager Mrs S#2 lost all her skin. Woke up one morning to find her skin was all over the bed. Never did find out why but fortunately it grew back, or she would still be leaking all over the place.
sick2:
Title: Re: Dialing from abroad
Post by: Snoopy on February 10, 2009, 12:14:44 PM
As a teenager Mrs S#2 lost all her skin. Woke up one morning to find her skin was all over the bed. Never did find out why but fortunately it grew back, or she would still be leaking all over the place.
sick2:

Pretty much my reaction when she told me about it.
Title: Re: Dialing from abroad
Post by: GROWLER on February 12, 2009, 05:10:30 PM
Can you believe this!  eeek:
Just had a note from school given to me by Moose Jnr, saying that they've had a change of heart, meaning that kids CAN now take their phones with them, as well as their I pod bluetooth wotnot blackberry game boy thingio rays and whatever's electrical entertainment shite, but the kids will be responsible for it all if it gets nicked.....as it would have been anyway. ::)

What a complete waste of a high blood pressure building shite experience all that has been then ey? Bloody tossers. Banghead
Title: Re: Dialing from abroad
Post by: Snoopy on February 12, 2009, 05:36:03 PM
My girl went to London with her GCSE English Class yesterday to see a play. Despite being told in advance by letter to home, in class last week, on the coach en route twice and by the theatre staff as they took their seats to switch off their phones two of them managed to have their mobiles go off whilst the performance was taking place. Both calls were from parents wanting to know if "they were enjoying their time at the theatre"  ::) Says it all really ~ fecking chavs.

The best bit was that THW and boyfriend had already decided to spend the free time before the performance visiting the National Gallery. The coach dropped everyone at Trafalgar Sq and the teacher in charge told them they had an hour. THW and bf were asked where they were going and when they told the teacher she said "You won't have time to get there and back in an hour" THW asked teacher where she thought the Nat Gallery was and teacher said "You'll need to catch a tube". THW said "So it is not that big white building across the road then Miss? The one at the top of the steps." BF laughed and they were both given a detention.
Title: Re: Dialing from abroad
Post by: Bar Wench on February 12, 2009, 05:50:39 PM
 noooo:
Title: Re: Dialing from abroad
Post by: Snoopy on February 12, 2009, 06:20:31 PM
I know Wenchy ~ unbelievable isn't it? And these people are in charge.

When they met up the teacher called a role, ensured all were present and said "follow me" and charged off down The Strand. THW said to BF "This is not the way to the Duke of York's Theatre, should we tell her?" "Not yet" came the reply. When they reached Charing Cross Station they decided to tell her via a male teacher who laughed, asked them to show the class the way, spoke to "Miss" who had a small tantrum and followed behind fuming.

The detention was cancelled. The junior male teacher sought them out during lunch today and thanked them. "Miss" has not spoken to either of them all day.

For those who don't know the correct route is the one diametrically opposite to the one selected by "Miss"

THW dressed in her usual (when not in school uniform) jeans, boots, scarf and black overcoat tells us that her little friends turned up in the latest "scally" fashion of Shorts over black tights, frilly little blouses etc. In other words what "Girls Aloud" & co were wearing two years ago. THW says she refused to acknowledge that she was with them as they looked like "tourists".

When they left the theatre one girl expressed surprise at the lack of rain "Because of all the thunder while we was watching the play like" THW asked "What thunder?" and the child said she had heard a storm which must have been overhead because the thunder was happening every few minutes. "Miss” said she had heard it too. THW and BF explained that what they had heard was the rumble of the tube as it goes under the theatre.  lol:

I've told the two of them to write it all up for the school magazine but they say there is no point as the scallys and sheepshaggers will never understand.

I am soooooooooo glad we have taught our children about life outside of Wales.
Title: Re: Dialing from abroad
Post by: Bar Wench on February 12, 2009, 06:28:36 PM
Do people like that really exist there? They really are like that?  eeek:
Title: Re: Dialing from abroad
Post by: Snoopy on February 12, 2009, 06:51:06 PM
I'm afraid it is all true. THW is in stitches about it all. Says the best part was when they went into the theatre and the chappy that tears the tickets was giving instructions to each child in turn about phones etc and when he got to THW and BF just waved them through and carried on haranguing the next bunch of kids ~ presumably he figured THW and BF were not tourists.

Miss, when they said they were going into the Nat Gallery, had told them also that it would cost them a "fortune" but THW had patiently (as only a teenage girl can, with much skyward glancing, sighing, tapping of foot and mute appeals to the audience etc) explained that the National Gallery houses the "National Collection" of art and is free ~ That only for special exhibitions, which are normally in the Sainsbury Wing, is anyone charged admission. I think it was the sighing and foot tapping that got her the detention. lol:

They lost one at a service area on the way back ~ two head counts five minutes apart confirmed this so a "register" was called and it was another teacher who was still stuffing her face in McDonalds that was missing.

Honestly you couldn't make it up could you?

Our two kids took loads of fruit, a pack of bagels, a plastic knife and pot of cream cheese + coffee to keep them fed on the downward leg. A plastic bowl (disposable) of pasta salad to share for lunch and cash to buy food on the return journey. Most kids ate a McDonalds at every stop. THW reckons that some had FIVE McDonald meals in the day.
Title: Re: Dialing from abroad
Post by: Darwins Selection on February 12, 2009, 08:13:36 PM
I am soooooooooo glad we have taught our children about life outside of Wales.


More like it.
 happ096
Title: Re: Dialing from abroad
Post by: Nick on February 12, 2009, 08:50:11 PM
CHRIST!

I have an email demanding that I acknowledge 'the Scottish Parliament and it's role in education'

When I corrected them I was told to feck off!
Title: Re: Dialing from abroad
Post by: Bar Wench on February 12, 2009, 09:13:45 PM
I'm afraid it is all true. THW is in stitches about it all. Says the best part was when they went into the theatre and the chappy that tears the tickets was giving instructions to each child in turn about phones etc and when he got to THW and BF just waved them through and carried on haranguing the next bunch of kids ~ presumably he figured THW and BF were not tourists.

Miss, when they said they were going into the Nat Gallery, had told them also that it would cost them a "fortune" but THW had patiently (as only a teenage girl can, with much skyward glancing, sighing, tapping of foot and mute appeals to the audience etc) explained that the National Gallery houses the "National Collection" of art and is free ~ That only for special exhibitions, which are normally in the Sainsbury Wing, is anyone charged admission. I think it was the sighing and foot tapping that got her the detention. lol:

They lost one at a service area on the way back ~ two head counts five minutes apart confirmed this so a "register" was called and it was another teacher who was still stuffing her face in McDonalds that was missing.

Honestly you couldn't make it up could you?

Our two kids took loads of fruit, a pack of bagels, a plastic knife and pot of cream cheese + coffee to keep them fed on the downward leg. A plastic bowl (disposable) of pasta salad to share for lunch and cash to buy food on the return journey. Most kids ate a McDonalds at every stop. THW reckons that some had FIVE McDonald meals in the day.

THW actually sounds like quite an amusing young lady. Wish I'd known where they were going I could have followed at a covert distance. Sounds like it would have been a right old laugh!
Title: Re: Dialing from abroad
Post by: Nick on February 13, 2009, 10:31:47 AM
Have re read all of Snoopy's posts I do find it amazing that the teechers had not the vaguest clue where they were going. Have they never been to London? Don't they have a map?  noooo:
Title: Re: Dialing from abroad
Post by: Snoopy on February 13, 2009, 10:34:16 AM
I'm afraid it is all true. THW is in stitches about it all. Says the best part was when they went into the theatre and the chappy that tears the tickets was giving instructions to each child in turn about phones etc and when he got to THW and BF just waved them through and carried on haranguing the next bunch of kids ~ presumably he figured THW and BF were not tourists.

Miss, when they said they were going into the Nat Gallery, had told them also that it would cost them a "fortune" but THW had patiently (as only a teenage girl can, with much skyward glancing, sighing, tapping of foot and mute appeals to the audience etc) explained that the National Gallery houses the "National Collection" of art and is free ~ That only for special exhibitions, which are normally in the Sainsbury Wing, is anyone charged admission. I think it was the sighing and foot tapping that got her the detention. lol:

They lost one at a service area on the way back ~ two head counts five minutes apart confirmed this so a "register" was called and it was another teacher who was still stuffing her face in McDonalds that was missing.

Honestly you couldn't make it up could you?

Our two kids took loads of fruit, a pack of bagels, a plastic knife and pot of cream cheese + coffee to keep them fed on the downward leg. A plastic bowl (disposable) of pasta salad to share for lunch and cash to buy food on the return journey. Most kids ate a McDonalds at every stop. THW reckons that some had FIVE McDonald meals in the day.

THW actually sounds like quite an amusing young lady. Wish I'd known where they were going I could have followed at a covert distance. Sounds like it would have been a right old laugh!

TBF I slag her off but she is 5'10", size 10, very pretty with brown eyes, shortish dark brown hair and extremely bright with a wicked sense of humour. She is very good with small children, has infinite patience and works very hard to ensure she gets good grades despite the school's most earnest endeavours to impede her progress. She has one of those brains that soaks in information even when she seems to be asleep or gazing into space. She is not known for her tact and does not suffer fools gladly. Unfortunately most of those who teach her have been classified as "fools".
She is untidy and reluctant to help around the house but in an emergency, and we have had one or two of those, she copes calmly and well. When driven to it she has been known to tidy her bedroom.
When she grows up I may even start to like her.

I am open to offers ~ the reserve price is currently three cows, twelve camels, a herd of at least 24 goats and a large persian rug.
Title: Re: Dialing from abroad
Post by: Snoopy on February 13, 2009, 10:37:18 AM
Have re read all of Snoopy's posts I do find it amazing that the teechers had not the vaguest clue where they were going. Have they never been to London? Don't they have a map?  noooo:


The only one with an A to Z was the THW who was carrying my 12 year old 'pocket' version "Just in case".

She accepted the offer from me only because her mother assured her that no-one who actually lives in London ever moves without one.

Even the coach driver went round Marble Arch twice before he found Oxford Street ~ Fvcking Welsh! noooo:
Title: Re: Dialing from abroad
Post by: Bar Wench on February 13, 2009, 11:16:04 AM
Same thing used to happen when MILFH brought her class to London. She used to end up sitting next to the driver telling him where to go.  noooo: