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Title: Assisted Suicides
Post by: Miss Demeanour on March 06, 2009, 01:48:20 PM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/bristol/7927318.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/bristol/7927318.stm)

I still find it hard to believe that in this day and age a couple facing such tragic circumstances have to travel abroad to afford themselves some dignity in their deaths.

Having just watched someone recently go through the same thing, my over riding thoughts when leaving the hospice most nights, was that this was inhumane. We afford animals more rights in this country than we do individuals.

A spokesman for the anti-euthanasia group Care Not Killing said:"However, hard cases make bad law and the fact remains that if euthanasia was ever legalised in Britain vulnerable and seriously ill people would come under pressure to end their lives prematurely

No one is talking about putting individuals under pressure to choose this course of action but where someone has chosen this, is mentally able to make these decisions and has no hope - why on earth not !


Title: Re: Assisted Suicides
Post by: Darwins Selection on March 06, 2009, 02:11:33 PM
If Broon or that Harriet Hormone want any assistance, I am available. . .
Title: Re: Assisted Suicides
Post by: GROWLER on March 06, 2009, 06:46:20 PM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/bristol/7927318.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/bristol/7927318.stm)

I still find it hard to believe that in this day and age a couple facing such tragic circumstances have to travel abroad to afford themselves some dignity in their deaths.

Having just watched someone recently go through the same thing, my over riding thoughts when leaving the hospice most nights, was that this was inhumane. We afford animals more rights in this country than we do individuals.

A spokesman for the anti-euthanasia group Care Not Killing said:"However, hard cases make bad law and the fact remains that if euthanasia was ever legalised in Britain vulnerable and seriously ill people would come under pressure to end their lives prematurely

No one is talking about putting individuals under pressure to choose this course of action but where someone has chosen this, is mentally able to make these decisions and has no hope - why on earth not !




Totally agree. If I get terminal cancer and when the pain becomes too extreme..heaven forbid...I'll be on the first flight to Geneva on my own thank you.
WHO in their right mind wants to go through all the hell, pain, anguish and suffering for however long they can extend the miserable end to your life, with pain killers and various other drugs and operations.
No thanks, you know the end is nigh, so lets get it done and dusted.

Anyway, I fully intend to attend my own wake in person before the 'happy' event. Why should I let every one else get pissed up on my behalf without my presence. I'll be friggin' paying for it, there or not. cussing:

On funeral day, it'll be a quick trip down the crem, a few jokes and a bit of banter amongst the assembled congrgation of problee 5, couple of me favourite tunes including 'Baby you can light my fire', and then slither me into the oven, and turn it up to regulo 9. Out the crem, and a quick blast up me 'ill for a bit of 'dusting' of the vegetation.lol:
Title: Re: Assisted Suicides
Post by: Pastis on March 06, 2009, 07:14:39 PM
As the OP said this is tragic and awful if you've ever had to see off a loved one in this manner, i.e. here without assistance.
Title: Re: Assisted Suicides
Post by: Just One More on March 06, 2009, 07:47:56 PM
We discussed this here a few months back, and I'm pretty certain that all contributors were of the same opinion, that we should allow euthanasia. Everybody I know is of the same opinion, so its about time those that are empowered to create the laws do so. I don't want to see anybody else go through what our friend and his family went through again.
Title: Re: Assisted Suicides
Post by: Nick on March 06, 2009, 08:51:29 PM
Quite so. My dad died of cancer, I have seen friends die of cancer. They all wanted out, since they knew they were off anyway.

Mind you, good docs gave ODs of morphine for years. Nowadays they fear being Shipmanned or whatever, so run scared
Title: Re: Assisted Suicides
Post by: Snoopy on March 07, 2009, 08:19:34 AM
My FiL refused offers from doctors and nursing sister on the ward to give him  an additional injection to make him "more comfortable". He lasted a few more days. I am still not sure if he understood what they were offering. Certainly his wife did not and to this day still does not realise that he was being offered a quick, peaceful and painless end to his suffering but all the rest of the family did. This was only a couple of years ago so the practice is still around.
My belief is that we all have to decide when the time is right for us and make sure our nearest and dearest know our wishes in the matter whilst we still have the capability. Most people who have watched a loved one suffer not only the pain but also the indignity of a slow lingering death feel this way and I have yet to meet anyone with a terminal illness that they know will eventually get worse who hasn't at least considered how they want it to end.
The only problem I have with the Dignitas Clinic is that they make money out of it and preclude those who do not have the required thousands of £s.