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Title: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: GROWLER on June 18, 2007, 10:56:22 PM
Following on from the helpful advice some of you lot gave me a few days ago, I've been sniffing around looking for a suitably easy diy web site maker.
The diy route has been decided on, it's just who to use that's the problem. Bloody millions of them. ::)
How exactly does an I.T. nugget realistically compare one against the other and find the one that is most user friendly and v.f.m.? Banghead

What do you reckon to this one that I plucked from a Google search?
http://www.homestead.com/
It would be so easy to simply 'click and go' but would value some more experty opinions before commiting myself. Wise decision I think, yea?


Any other suggestions/recommendations? rubschin:

I want this all up and running pdq, as the printers are waiting patiently for my further instructions.
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: Barman on June 19, 2007, 07:17:46 AM
Following on from the helpful advice some of you lot gave me a few days ago, I've been sniffing around looking for a suitably easy diy web site maker.
The diy route has been decided on, it's just who to use that's the problem. Bloody millions of them. ::)
How exactly does an I.T. nugget realistically compare one against the other and find the one that is most user friendly and v.f.m.? Banghead

What do you reckon to this one that I plucked from a Google search?
http://www.homestead.com/
It would be so easy to simply 'click and go' but would value some more experty opinions before commiting myself. Wise decision I think, yea?


Any other suggestions/recommendations? rubschin:

I want this all up and running pdq, as the printers are waiting patiently for my further instructions.
It looks okay but my guess is that you?d be tied into them forever?

I?d personally prefer you to buy your own domain name then use some cheap/free software to build your site (you can even do it in ?Word?.

Then you have control of your costs?

Try this link (http://www.uk2.net/) and choose a domain name that suits your business to see how little it costs? then you are in full control of it?
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: Nick on June 19, 2007, 10:32:18 AM
Don't believe a word he says.













Hope that helps! drumroll:
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: Barman on June 19, 2007, 10:33:42 AM
Don't believe a word he says.
Who, me????  eeek:
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: GROWLER on June 19, 2007, 10:34:30 AM
Right. I've done a search on that link you kindly forwarded to me, and there is a name I could use that's suitable, that I can have for 7 squiddlies for 2 years.
So, I register it and pay, but then I have to buy some software package to develop a site, yes?
Where do I get this package, and roughly how much do they cost?
More to the point though, just how easy are they to use, and do I need to know all about these very complicated looking htpl codes or whatever they are called thingies, cus if that's the case I'm terminally stuffed.
We are talking about a total and utter useless I.T. git here you know.

I don't want to go to all the expense of purchasing a domain name, and then some software, only to find I can't use it due to total and complete impatient ignorance. crash:
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: GROWLER on June 19, 2007, 10:36:29 AM
Hope that helps! drumroll:

Yea, cheers. All problems solved now.....knobby! ::)
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: Nick on June 19, 2007, 10:37:00 AM
Draw some pictures on your scanner (wax crayons will do). Scan them in and then send them to, er cyberspace.

Frankly, I dunno how it works either. I get a woman in!
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: GROWLER on June 19, 2007, 10:40:27 AM
Draw some pictures on your scanner (wax crayons will do). Scan them in and then send them to, er cyberspace.

Frankly, I dunno how it works either. I get a woman in!

I DON'T want a wumman doing my stuff....apart from washing ironing, cooking etc,., cus that's a defeatists attitude.
You ARE a tart Nick. razz:
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: Barman on June 19, 2007, 10:41:34 AM
Right. I've done a search, and there is a name I can have for 7 squiddlies for 2 years.
So, I register it and pay, but then I have to buy some software package to develop a site, yes?
Where do I get this package, and roughly how much do they cost?
More to the point though, just how easy are they to use, and do I need to know all about these very complicated looking htpl codes or whatever they are called thingies, cus if that's the case I'm terminally stuffed.
We are talking about a total and utter useless I.T. git here you know.

I don't want to go to all the expense of purchasing a domain name, and then some software, only to find I can't use it due to total and complete and impatient ignorance. crash:
Buy the domain name and it?s yours to keep for as long as you pay the bi-annual fees.

To run a web site you?ll also need to purchase some web space. Again, but it and it is yours for as long as you keep paying. All our sites are hosted by UK2 (although this one is having a few teething problems at the moment), they give you a vast amount of space in the package along with e-mail addresses so you can have for instance sales@growler.com, info@growler.com etc.

You will then need some software to edit your web page although you can theoretically do it with windows or some such. I use FrontPage ? I?m not sure how much it is but there are similar packages cheap or free on the tinterweb. If you want I will investigate for you.

you won?t need to lear any complex HTML commands ? the software is all user friendly and pretty much what you see is what you get (WYSISWG) so if you selct the text and make it bigger for instance it will look bigger in the preview and bigger on your web.

Most packages have a ?publish? feature (FrontPage does) that automatically loads the pages onto the tinterweb for you. If you need help I?m happy to oblige?
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: Nick on June 19, 2007, 01:02:07 PM
Draw some pictures on your scanner (wax crayons will do). Scan them in and then send them to, er cyberspace.

Frankly, I dunno how it works either. I get a woman in!

I DON'T want a wumman doing my stuff....apart from washing ironing, cooking etc,., cus that's a defeatists attitude.
You ARE a tart Nick. razz:

Seeing Berek tomorrow. I may not be back! scared2:
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: Nick on June 19, 2007, 01:03:14 PM
Right. I've done a search, and there is a name I can have for 7 squiddlies for 2 years.
So, I register it and pay, but then I have to buy some software package to develop a site, yes?
Where do I get this package, and roughly how much do they cost?
More to the point though, just how easy are they to use, and do I need to know all about these very complicated looking htpl codes or whatever they are called thingies, cus if that's the case I'm terminally stuffed.
We are talking about a total and utter useless I.T. git here you know.

I don't want to go to all the expense of purchasing a domain name, and then some software, only to find I can't use it due to total and complete and impatient ignorance. crash:
Buy the domain name and it?s yours to keep for as long as you pay the bi-annual fees.

To run a web site you?ll also need to purchase some web space. Again, but it and it is yours for as long as you keep paying. All our sites are hosted by UK2 (although this one is having a few teething problems at the moment), they give you a vast amount of space in the package along with e-mail addresses so you can have for instance sales@growler.com, info@growler.com etc.

You will then need some software to edit your web page although you can theoretically do it with windows or some such. I use FrontPage ? I?m not sure how much it is but there are similar packages cheap or free on the tinterweb. If you want I will investigate for you.

you won?t need to lear any complex HTML commands ? the software is all user friendly and pretty much what you see is what you get (WYSISWG) so if you selct the text and make it bigger for instance it will look bigger in the preview and bigger on your web.

Most packages have a ?publish? feature (FrontPage does) that automatically loads the pages onto the tinterweb for you. If you need help I?m happy to oblige?

Yeah, makes sense


























Don't beleve a word of it, he is trying to mislead you!
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: Barman on June 19, 2007, 01:04:32 PM
Right. I've done a search, and there is a name I can have for 7 squiddlies for 2 years.
So, I register it and pay, but then I have to buy some software package to develop a site, yes?
Where do I get this package, and roughly how much do they cost?
More to the point though, just how easy are they to use, and do I need to know all about these very complicated looking htpl codes or whatever they are called thingies, cus if that's the case I'm terminally stuffed.
We are talking about a total and utter useless I.T. git here you know.

I don't want to go to all the expense of purchasing a domain name, and then some software, only to find I can't use it due to total and complete and impatient ignorance. crash:
Buy the domain name and it?s yours to keep for as long as you pay the bi-annual fees.

To run a web site you?ll also need to purchase some web space. Again, but it and it is yours for as long as you keep paying. All our sites are hosted by UK2 (although this one is having a few teething problems at the moment), they give you a vast amount of space in the package along with e-mail addresses so you can have for instance sales@growler.com, info@growler.com etc.

You will then need some software to edit your web page although you can theoretically do it with windows or some such. I use FrontPage ? I?m not sure how much it is but there are similar packages cheap or free on the tinterweb. If you want I will investigate for you.

you won?t need to lear any complex HTML commands ? the software is all user friendly and pretty much what you see is what you get (WYSISWG) so if you selct the text and make it bigger for instance it will look bigger in the preview and bigger on your web.

Most packages have a ?publish? feature (FrontPage does) that automatically loads the pages onto the tinterweb for you. If you need help I?m happy to oblige?

Yeah, makes sense


























Don't beleve a word of it, he is trying to mislead you!
eeek: Have I ever lied to you?  noooo:
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: GROWLER on June 19, 2007, 01:11:15 PM
Okeedokee.
There are obviously 3 ways of doing this then.
Go down the Nick route, and get some bit of fit fluff in to do it for me...at a price I suspect, or some other unreliable 'tomorrow tomorrow, leave it with me and nothing will happen' man.  ::)

Use one of these diy sites like I linked before that presumably provide everything but you're tied to them.

Do as you suggest. Buy the domain. Buy some web space from..... rubschin:...a web space shop?
Then buy some package or get this Front Page thing that appears to be free! eeek:
I'm just a tad on edge about going down this 3rd option route, in case I find I can't cope with it, even though it does sound the best option.

I'm in essence, just a few mouseclicks away from completely bolloxing my entire new business venture up! scared2:
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: Nick on June 19, 2007, 01:11:22 PM
You tell me!
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: Nick on June 19, 2007, 01:12:15 PM
Okeedokee.
There are obviously 3 ways of doing this then.
Go down the Nick route, and get some bit of fit fluff in to do it for me...at a price I suspect, or some other unreliable 'tomorrow tomorrow, leave it with me and nothing will happen' man.  ::)

Use one of these diy sites like I linked before that presumably provide everything but you're tied to them.

Do as you suggest. Buy the domain. Buy some web space from..... rubschin:...a web space shop?
Then buy some package or get this Front Page thing that appears to be free! eeek:
I'm just a tad on edge about going down this 3rd option route, in case I find I can't cope with it, even though it does sound the best option.

I'm in essence, just a few mouseclicks away from completely bolloxing my entire new business venture up! scared2:

Georgina is my man!!
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: Snoopy on June 19, 2007, 01:13:39 PM
Option three is the way I went.
www.dyserth.biz
Simple but effective
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: Nick on June 19, 2007, 01:15:34 PM
Don't believe a word he says.








Trust me drumroll:
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: Barman on June 19, 2007, 01:17:28 PM
Okeedokee.
There are obviously 3 ways of doing this then.
Go down the Nick route, and get some bit of fit fluff in to do it for me...at a price I suspect, or some other unreliable 'tomorrow tomorrow, leave it with me and nothing will happen' man.  ::)

Use one of these diy sites like I linked before that presumably provide everything but you're tied to them.

Do as you suggest. Buy the domain. Buy some web space from..... rubschin:...a web space shop?
Then buy some package or get this Front Page thing that appears to be free! eeek:
I'm just a tad on edge about going down this 3rd option route, in case I find I can't cope with it, even though it does sound the best option.

I'm in essence, just a few mouseclicks away from completely bolloxing my entire new business venture up! scared2:
You must obviously do whatever makes you feel most comfortable?
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: Nick on June 19, 2007, 01:18:13 PM
Okeedokee.
There are obviously 3 ways of doing this then.
Go down the Nick route, and get some bit of fit fluff in to do it for me...at a price I suspect, or some other unreliable 'tomorrow tomorrow, leave it with me and nothing will happen' man.  ::)

Use one of these diy sites like I linked before that presumably provide everything but you're tied to them.

Do as you suggest. Buy the domain. Buy some web space from..... rubschin:...a web space shop?
Then buy some package or get this Front Page thing that appears to be free! eeek:
I'm just a tad on edge about going down this 3rd option route, in case I find I can't cope with it, even though it does sound the best option.

I'm in essence, just a few mouseclicks away from completely bolloxing my entire new business venture up! scared2:
You must obviously do whatever makes you feel most comfortable?

Georgina is over 6 feet tall!
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: GROWLER on June 19, 2007, 01:19:29 PM
Don't believe a word he says.








Trust me drumroll:


Bin Laden on a bike, and I thought I was the eternal pessimist (sp) eeek:


Where dp I purchase this web space then?
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: Barman on June 19, 2007, 01:20:00 PM
Okeedokee.
There are obviously 3 ways of doing this then.
Go down the Nick route, and get some bit of fit fluff in to do it for me...at a price I suspect, or some other unreliable 'tomorrow tomorrow, leave it with me and nothing will happen' man.  ::)

Use one of these diy sites like I linked before that presumably provide everything but you're tied to them.

Do as you suggest. Buy the domain. Buy some web space from..... rubschin:...a web space shop?
Then buy some package or get this Front Page thing that appears to be free! eeek:
I'm just a tad on edge about going down this 3rd option route, in case I find I can't cope with it, even though it does sound the best option.

I'm in essence, just a few mouseclicks away from completely bolloxing my entire new business venture up! scared2:
You must obviously do whatever makes you feel most comfortable?

Georgina is over 6 feet tall!
That does sound comfortable...  Picture? whistle:
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: GROWLER on June 19, 2007, 01:22:08 PM
WHO exactly is Georgina please?
Fit? cloud9:
Fun? cloud9:
Mrs Nick know about this? eeek:
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: GROWLER on June 19, 2007, 01:23:36 PM
I've got to ask myself. Am I a man or a mouse or a Nick? ;D
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: Barman on June 19, 2007, 01:27:37 PM
I've got to ask myself. Am I a man or a mouse or a Nick? ;D
The site rules clearly state that our insurance only covers us for one Nick...
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: Nick on June 19, 2007, 01:29:01 PM
Don't believe a word he says.








Trust me drumroll:


Bin Laden on a bike, and I thought I was the eternal pessimist (sp) eeek:


Where dp I purchase this web space then?

From a webspace shop. You have to search. They are very small and at gutter level in Ellesmere Port High Street. Somewhere
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: Darwins Selection on June 19, 2007, 01:29:28 PM
You must obviously do whatever makes you feel most comfortable?
I think his avatar shows that already. whistle:
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: GROWLER on June 19, 2007, 01:31:12 PM
Option three is the way I went.
www.dyserth.biz
Simple but effective

Was that all done by your good self using Front Page and without all these complicated code thingumies?

Impressive Snoops, impressive. eeek:
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: Barman on June 19, 2007, 01:33:00 PM
Option three is the way I went.
www.dyserth.biz
Simple but effective

Was that all done by your good self using Front Page and without all these complicated code thingumies?

Impressive Snoops, impressive. eeek:
Ahem... www.cyprusbroadband.com - not a single thingumies to be found.  whistle:
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: GROWLER on June 19, 2007, 01:33:56 PM
Option three is the way I went.
www.dyserth.biz
Simple but effective

Was that all done by your good self using Front Page and without all these complicated code thingumies?

Impressive Snoops, impressive. eeek:

I'm teetering. Tonight WILL be the night then I suspect.
Results will be shown via a link and pm for those who want to see the end result. eeek:
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: Nick on June 19, 2007, 01:34:32 PM
Option three is the way I went.
www.dyserth.biz
Simple but effective

Was that all done by your good self using Front Page and without all these complicated code thingumies?

Impressive Snoops, impressive. eeek:

No he too has used George
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: Darwins Selection on June 19, 2007, 01:37:44 PM
Option three is the way I went.
www.dyserth.biz
Simple but effective

Was that all done by your good self using Front Page and without all these complicated code thingumies?

Impressive Snoops, impressive. eeek:

No he too has used George
Before or after the op.?
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: Nick on June 19, 2007, 01:41:07 PM
Option three is the way I went.
www.dyserth.biz
Simple but effective

Was that all done by your good self using Front Page and without all these complicated code thingumies?

Impressive Snoops, impressive. eeek:

I'm teetering. Tonight WILL be the night then I suspect.
Results will be shown via a link and pm for those who want to see the end result. eeek:

We await your links!
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: Snoopy on June 19, 2007, 01:47:51 PM
Option three is the way I went.
www.dyserth.biz
Simple but effective

Was that all done by your good self using Front Page and without all these complicated code thingumies?

Impressive Snoops, impressive. eeek:

Two of us did it between us. Both putting pages together and emailing them back and forth for corrections. Once we were happy we pressed the button and sent it into cyberspace to fend for itself. It was easier than we thought but did take a bit of time. Neither of us had ever done anything like it before. Costs me ?22 every two years for the domain and space that came with it (including 10 email addresses as yet unused)
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: Berek on June 19, 2007, 01:48:08 PM
will Growlers site contain images of women in their natural form ?
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: Snoopy on June 19, 2007, 01:51:55 PM
will Growlers site contain images of women in their natural form ?

Washing up and stuff you mean?
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: Grumpmeister on June 19, 2007, 02:31:34 PM
Draw some pictures on your scanner (wax crayons will do). Scan them in and then send them to, er cyberspace.

Frankly, I dunno how it works either. I get a woman in!

Giver your near suparnatural ability to cause calamities we are all greatfull that you do Nick. I suspect if you trid it yourself you'd end up shutting down the entire web  point:
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: Darwins Selection on June 19, 2007, 02:48:57 PM
Giver your near suparnatural ability to cause calamities we are all greatfull that you do Nick. I suspect if you trid it yourself you'd end up shutting down the entire web  point:
Have you been drinking, or has Georgina been fiddling in your laptop?
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: Grumpmeister on June 19, 2007, 02:57:16 PM
Unfortunately as much as I love this multimedia keybaord it may be time to replace it for one of the standard office ones.  sad24:

Either that or some swine has been remapping me keys  cussing:
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: Barman on June 19, 2007, 03:00:59 PM
Unfortunately as much as I love this multimedia keybaord it may be time to replace it for one of the standard office ones.  sad24:

Either that or some swine has been remapping me keys  cussing:
Drinking then?  whistle:
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: Grumpmeister on June 19, 2007, 03:18:06 PM
Only if caffiene has that effect  eyes:
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: Barman on June 19, 2007, 03:32:46 PM
Only if caffiene has that effect  eyes:
It doesn't...  eastdrink048
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: Misunderstood on June 19, 2007, 04:08:19 PM
This bloody board is getting more like Auntie Sobs problem page every day.

I am getting to be fully occupied just watching for the next episode of calamitous developments.

But it is nice to see Nick playing such a full part in the technology departments  Bravo Nick.



Yes!  Go for option 3.  There are countless ways to buy a domain and you don't have to rent the space from the same firm. 

There are places that do commercial sites for next to nothing, I use a US west coast company for mine,  everything I need 2Gb of space unlimited POP mailboxes and traffic for $24 per two years.

I can point any web address to it and use any software to upload (including Front Page extensions).

I started from scratch, knowing nothing about web sites and got everything working in about a week.  but a tip:  Remember that all the links and pages and things are case-sensitive. it took me days to work that out, and that .htm is NOT the same as .html   confused:
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: GROWLER on June 19, 2007, 09:46:26 PM
will Growlers site contain images of women in their natural form ?

Only wimmen sheep 'n' 'orses and other animaly type creatures.
That may interest a few in here though. rubschin:
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: GROWLER on June 19, 2007, 10:12:38 PM
Didn't get far before I became puzzled. ::)
Page 2:

Domain name Hosting with FREE POP E-mail 1 year ?2.49


Ey? Who? What? FREE POP E mail? How come it costs ?2.49 if it's free, and why would I want it anyway nuggets? evil:
Bloody great this. Haven't even got past the buying a web name thing yet ffs

Other stuff asking me do I want web hosting and other bibs and bobs from 40 to 70 snotters!
Well how the hell do I know ey? It would really help if you explained what it's all about I'd have thought, THEN I could make a reasoned well thought out decision.....sort of. confused:


Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: Barman on June 20, 2007, 04:44:38 AM
Didn't get far before I became puzzled. ::)
Page 2:

Domain name Hosting with FREE POP E-mail 1 year ?2.49


Ey? Who? What? FREE POP E mail? How come it costs ?2.49 if it's free, and why would I want it anyway nuggets? evil:
Bloody great this. Haven't even got past the buying a web name thing yet ffs

Other stuff asking me do I want web hosting and other bibs and bobs from 40 to 70 snotters!
Well how the hell do I know ey? It would really help if you explained what it's all about I'd have thought, THEN I could make a reasoned well thought out decision.....sort of. confused:



There are a few elements?

Firstly is the domain name www.growler.com or whatever

Then you need the web space to host your web site

The POP thingymagigs are e-mail accounts so you can have sales@growler.com and such like. Some give a limited number free while others charge you for them.

That should be you up-and-running. Additional services that U2 charge me for are web statistics so you can see how many people visit your site every month and professional DNS services which you don?t need. they may also offer to spam filter your POP accounts for you at an extra charge.
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: GROWLER on June 20, 2007, 07:37:57 AM
Hey Bartender. Have you clicked on that ficticious GROWLER link? eatdrink013
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: GROWLER on June 20, 2007, 07:43:14 AM
Well I don't think I need any extra email accounts, but a counter would be cool so I can see if anyone's interested and sniffin' I suppose.
Who do I choose for this 'hosting' malarky then ey, and what's it all about anyway?
Can't I simply host it all in this heap of electronic shite meself...like? confused:
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: Darwins Selection on June 20, 2007, 07:49:52 AM
Hey Bartender. Have you clicked on that ficticious GROWLER link? eatdrink013
You mean it isn't yours?

I was impressed how quickly you had got it working and there were no 'used' car stereos for sale. ;)
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: Barman on June 20, 2007, 08:08:56 AM
Hey Bartender. Have you clicked on that ficticious GROWLER link? eatdrink013
Um... no I hadn't actually...  redface:
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: Barman on June 20, 2007, 08:10:08 AM
Well I don't think I need any extra email accounts, but a counter would be cool so I can see if anyone's interested and sniffin' I suppose.
Who do I choose for this 'hosting' malarky then ey, and what's it all about anyway?
Can't I simply host it all in this heap of electronic shite meself...like? confused:
No, you don?t want to host it yourself? You want to ?host? it on somebody else?s computers -  a company like UK2 that has loads of bandwidth and specialises in it?
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: GROWLER on June 20, 2007, 08:23:08 AM
Hey Bartender. Have you clicked on that ficticious GROWLER link? eatdrink013
Um... no I hadn't actually...  redface:

Thank the ruddy Lord it was nowt sinister.
Half a sniff of summat iffy, and it would have been plastered all over some other dodgy forums no doubt. whistle:
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: Darwins Selection on June 20, 2007, 08:44:02 AM
Thank the ruddy Lord it was nowt sinister.


Depends what you call sinister. . . .


Quote from: Growler.com
"He is the most well known ancestor of the current residents of Growlerville - almost everyone here claims to be his descendant. An innovator and risk taker, this ancient healer/shaman/philospher/scientist gathered and painstakingly studied every encrusted phenomenon he came upon during his early years wandering within the Sacred Reservoir (the ancient name of the Forbidden Zone). Oldold's research enabled him to develop all kinds of powerful applications of these new discoveries."
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: GROWLER on June 20, 2007, 08:47:46 AM
Thank the ruddy Lord it was nowt sinister.


Depends what you call sinister. . . .


Quote from: Growler.com
"He is the most well known ancestor of the current residents of Growlerville - almost everyone here claims to be his descendant. An innovator and risk taker, this ancient healer/shaman/philospher/scientist gathered and painstakingly studied every encrusted phenomenon he came upon during his early years wandering within the Sacred Reservoir (the ancient name of the Forbidden Zone). Oldold's research enabled him to develop all kinds of powerful applications of these new discoveries."


OH SHIT. eeek:
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: GROWLER on June 20, 2007, 08:57:27 AM
Well I don't think I need any extra email accounts, but a counter would be cool so I can see if anyone's interested and sniffin' I suppose.
Who do I choose for this 'hosting' malarky then ey, and what's it all about anyway?
Can't I simply host it all in this heap of electronic shite meself...like? confused:
No, you don?t want to host it yourself? You want to ?host? it on somebody else?s computers -  a company like UK2 that has loads of bandwidth and specialises in it?

So, if I can't do it meself, how do I transfer my new domain to them, and how do I choose the most appropriate host?
Is it easy enough, or do I have to get involved in complicated computer I.T. malarky thingies codes and stuff?

Bloody minefield this. ::)
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: Barman on June 20, 2007, 09:04:23 AM
Well I don't think I need any extra email accounts, but a counter would be cool so I can see if anyone's interested and sniffin' I suppose.
Who do I choose for this 'hosting' malarky then ey, and what's it all about anyway?
Can't I simply host it all in this heap of electronic shite meself...like? confused:
No, you don?t want to host it yourself? You want to ?host? it on somebody else?s computers -  a company like UK2 that has loads of bandwidth and specialises in it?

So, if I can't do it meself, how do I transfer my new domain to them, and how do I choose the most appropriate host?
Is it easy enough, or do I have to get involved in complicated computer I.T. malarky thingies codes and stuff?

Bloody minefield this. ::)
Not a minefield, just new.

Everybody has their favourite ISP (Internet Service Provider) or ?host? but I?ve used UK2 for years and would recommend them.

Once you have bought the domain name and web site you create the web on your PC just as you would with any other application. Once you are happy with it you upload it to your web space on the host.

In FrontPage there is a ?Publish? button that does it all for you?
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: GROWLER on June 20, 2007, 09:11:53 AM
Ahhhh, right.
Create the /my web site first on Front Page, THEN transfer it to the host/provider people?
Gorrit! whistle:

Thanks for all your help. Many more questions as I limp through this stuff I suspect.
Like a bloody I.T. help desk this place, but I'm much obliged anyway.
Got more sense  eeek: out of you lot than I have out of my so called mates

Thanks for your patience, and you'll be rewarded with a free trip in the swamp when it's up and running, if you're ever over here. ;)
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: Barman on June 20, 2007, 09:21:55 AM
Ahhhh, right.
Create the /my web site first on Front Page, THEN transfer it to the host/provider people?
Gorrit! whistle:

Thanks for all your help. Many more questions as I limp through this stuff I suspect.
Like a bloody I.T. help desk this place, but I'm much obliged anyway.
Got more sense  eeek: out of you lot than I have out of my so called mates

Thanks for your patience, and you'll be rewarded with a free trip in the swamp when it's up and running, if you're ever over here. ;)
I can't wait...  noooo:
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: Grumpmeister on June 20, 2007, 09:23:56 AM
That should be you up-and-running. Additional services that U2 charge me for are web statistics so you can see how many people visit your site every month and professional DNS services which you don?t need. they may also offer to spam filter your POP accounts for you at an extra charge.

You've let Bonehead host this site? And there was me thinking the connection errors were network related  point:
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: Barman on June 20, 2007, 09:26:15 AM
That should be you up-and-running. Additional services that U2 charge me for are web statistics so you can see how many people visit your site every month and professional DNS services which you don?t need. they may also offer to spam filter your POP accounts for you at an extra charge.

You've let Bonehead host this site? And there was me thinking the connection errors were network related  point:
doh:
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: Grumpmeister on June 20, 2007, 10:57:22 AM
It was guaranteed someone would pick up on it, I just happened to spot it first  point:
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: GROWLER on June 20, 2007, 11:59:59 AM
....and WHO pray, is Bonehead? eeek:

He running this hosting thingy you recommend oh wise barman?

Didn't he star in a kids sitcom programme back in the 60's IIRC? rubschin:
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: Barman on June 20, 2007, 12:01:52 PM
....and WHO pray, is Bonehead? eeek:

He running this hosting thingy you recommend oh wise barman?
Oh dear...  noooo:

I should have typed www.uk2.net but instead I typed U2... U2 --->> Bono ---->> Bonehead...  whistle:
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: GROWLER on June 20, 2007, 12:33:03 PM
Next. ::)

Where do I get this Front Page software from then? A Front Page shop I presume? How much is a reasonable price to pay for it as I could quite easily be ripped off here being a bit of an I.T. nugget. surrender:
I don't appear to have it buried somewhere in this heap of electrical shite either as some have suggested.

Just done a check on Google, and the last version was published in 2003...I think. It's called something else now apparently.
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: Darwins Selection on June 20, 2007, 12:45:26 PM
Next. ::)

Where do I get this Front Page software from then? A Front Page shop I presume? How much is a reasonable price to pay for it as I could quite easily be ripped off here being a bit of an I.T. nugget. surrender:
I don't appear to have it buried somewhere in this heap of electrical shite either as some have suggested.

Just done a check on Google, and the last version was published in 2003...I think. It's called something else now apparently.

I know this one!!!

It is part of Office 2003 (unused by anyone I know, along with Powerpoint, Excel and Access) ::)
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: Grumpmeister on June 20, 2007, 12:50:31 PM
Next. ::)

Where do I get this Front Page software from then? A Front Page shop I presume? How much is a reasonable price to pay for it as I could quite easily be ripped off here being a bit of an I.T. nugget. surrender:
I don't appear to have it buried somewhere in this heap of electrical shite either as some have suggested.

Just done a check on Google, and the last version was published in 2003...I think. It's called something else now apparently.

There have been cheap copies of office available on ebay in the past but I couldnt comment on their authenticity....  whistle:
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: Barman on June 20, 2007, 01:02:24 PM
Next. ::)

Where do I get this Front Page software from then? A Front Page shop I presume? How much is a reasonable price to pay for it as I could quite easily be ripped off here being a bit of an I.T. nugget. surrender:
I don't appear to have it buried somewhere in this heap of electrical shite either as some have suggested.

Just done a check on Google, and the last version was published in 2003...I think. It's called something else now apparently.
Yes, it looks like FrontPage has been made obsolete?

There are many others ? let?s see what the rest of the board recommends.
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: Barman on June 20, 2007, 01:03:19 PM
Next. ::)

Where do I get this Front Page software from then? A Front Page shop I presume? How much is a reasonable price to pay for it as I could quite easily be ripped off here being a bit of an I.T. nugget. surrender:
I don't appear to have it buried somewhere in this heap of electrical shite either as some have suggested.

Just done a check on Google, and the last version was published in 2003...I think. It's called something else now apparently.

I know this one!!!

It is part of Office 2003 (unused by anyone I know, along with Powerpoint, Excel and Access) ::)

Stupid boy!  noooo:
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: GROWLER on June 20, 2007, 05:41:26 PM
Next. ::)

Where do I get this Front Page software from then? A Front Page shop I presume? How much is a reasonable price to pay for it as I could quite easily be ripped off here being a bit of an I.T. nugget. surrender:
I don't appear to have it buried somewhere in this heap of electrical shite either as some have suggested.

Just done a check on Google, and the last version was published in 2003...I think. It's called something else now apparently.
Yes, it looks like FrontPage has been made obsolete?

There are many others ? let?s see what the rest of the board recommends.

There was me thinking you had your finger on the pulse, and then it takes a techno no hoper to enlighten you.

So. Where TF now then Mr Gates? tunble:
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: Darwins Selection on June 20, 2007, 06:13:08 PM
it takes a techno no hoper to enlighten you.
Errr.. Thanks, I think. rubschin:
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: Grumpmeister on June 20, 2007, 06:56:50 PM
Okeedokee.
There are obviously 3 ways of doing this then.
Go down the Nick route, and get some bit of fit fluff in to do it for me...at a price I suspect, or some other unreliable 'tomorrow tomorrow, leave it with me and nothing will happen' man.  ::)

Use one of these diy sites like I linked before that presumably provide everything but you're tied to them.

Do as you suggest. Buy the domain. Buy some web space from..... rubschin:...a web space shop?
Then buy some package or get this Front Page thing that appears to be free! eeek:
I'm just a tad on edge about going down this 3rd option route, in case I find I can't cope with it, even though it does sound the best option.

I'm in essence, just a few mouseclicks away from completely bolloxing my entire new business venture up! scared2:

Georgina is my man!!

Your techie dragging her heels then  drumroll:
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: Misunderstood on June 21, 2007, 12:07:40 AM
Didn't get far before I became puzzled. ::)
Page 2:

Domain name Hosting with FREE POP E-mail 1 year ?2.49


Ey? Who? What? FREE POP E mail? How come it costs ?2.49 if it's free, and why would I want it anyway nuggets? evil:
Bloody great this. Haven't even got past the buying a web name thing yet ffs

Other stuff asking me do I want web hosting and other bibs and bobs from 40 to 70 snotters!
Well how the hell do I know ey? It would really help if you explained what it's all about I'd have thought, THEN I could make a reasoned well thought out decision.....sort of. confused:




POP mail means you can receive mail from your own mailbox and it is usually coupled with SMTP mail which means you can send mail from the same account name, handy for a business to receive mail from the firm you are expecting to be hearing from.

Webmail which is usually free and can only be accessed from a web site on line.

Sometimes, you can forward - that is, redirect - mail to your usual mailbox.  This is OK but leaves you unable to send using your company name address.  That confuses people and you usually get you mail simply returned as people are too lazy to type an address out and simply click on 'Reply' which will be your personal address, so you'll end up not using your business address at all but only your personal address.

If that doesn't matter, then go for the free mail.  If it does matter and you want to keep your business and personal addresses separate, then invest a few quid in POP/SMTP mailboxes.   It's worth it.

Next?
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: Uncle Mort on June 21, 2007, 09:56:46 AM
This reminds me of my son and his homework.

He will keep asking for answers until I finally crack with a 'Give it here I'll do it"

Who will be first to crack here and set Growler's site up?
 

Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: Darwins Selection on June 21, 2007, 10:55:56 AM
This reminds me of my son and his homework.

He will keep asking for answers until I finally crack with a 'Give it here I'll do it"

Who will be first to crack here and set Growler's site up?

There may be such an offer, but I doubt Growler is stupid enough to let any of us lot loose on this window to the world.

I am no expert, but the possibilities for mischief must be endless. eyes: eyes:
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: GROWLER on June 21, 2007, 12:09:30 PM
This reminds me of my son and his homework.

He will keep asking for answers until I finally crack with a 'Give it here I'll do it"

Who will be first to crack here and set Growler's site up?

There may be such an offer, but I doubt Growler is stupid enough to let any of us lot loose on this window to the world.

I am no expert, but the possibilities for mischief must be endless. eyes: eyes:


Correct, and so true.

Look, just like your son doing his homework, questions have to be asked.
If I don't ask I won't learn. Simple really.

If you'd care to read my previous discussions on this matter, you'll see that I have been offered the services (free) of others...x3...and they have ALL let me down. Hence my reason for doing it myself now.
I'm very grateful for the help and advice received so far, but I don't want anyone setting it all up for me.

If I managed to set up a little forum for me and some of my motor sport and general car nut mates, then I'm damned sure I can do this.
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: Snoopy on June 21, 2007, 12:19:24 PM
Good Man ~ Take no notice .... he only knows about turkeys anyway and they can't type.
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: GROWLER on June 21, 2007, 12:28:34 PM
Good Man ~ Take no notice .... he only knows about turkeys anyway and they can't type.

Errr no. THAT post wasn't directed at our friendly piss taking Turkey plucker. noooo:

Anyway Snoops, if I get stuck can I come up to your mountain retreat to let you do it for me please?
BUT DON'T TELL ANYONE. OK?
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: Nick on June 21, 2007, 01:35:23 PM
YOUR SECRET IS SAFE WITH US
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: Bar Wench on June 21, 2007, 02:33:05 PM
I learnt and used the adobe package. Mine is called GoLive but it may have changed since then. I loved it. Very intuitive and easy to use.
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: Uncle Mort on June 21, 2007, 02:35:21 PM
The point is that you never really learn by being just told something. You have to understand and the best way is to do it for yourself, mistakes and all.

As I say to my son until he gets to me "What do you think?"
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: GROWLER on June 21, 2007, 04:01:53 PM
The point is that you never really learn by being just told something. You have to understand and the best way is to do it for yourself, mistakes and all.

As I say to my son until he gets to me "What do you think?"

Yea I know that. To understand anything, you have to listen, and to do that you have to be told surely? confused:
All I'm trying to do is find the best solutions to my problem, ie., setting up a web site of my own that I can ammend if and when neccessary.
To simply plunder on in the dark without seeking advice or help from anyone would be foolhardy in the extreme.
This electrical heap of rodent shite could be terminally damaged due to my I.T. incompitance, thus denying you all the pleasure of my posts forever! whistle:


Yes, did I hear a muttering then? rubschin:
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: Darwins Selection on June 21, 2007, 06:56:07 PM
Good Man ~ Take no notice .... he only knows about turkeys anyway and they can't type.
I do have feeling you know. sad24:

And I know about cows and machinery
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: Snoopy on June 21, 2007, 07:11:06 PM
Good Man ~ Take no notice .... he only knows about turkeys anyway and they can't type.
I do have feeling you know. sad24:

And I know about cows and machinery

Come Christmas you have no hiding place:

(https://www.virtual-pub.com/SMF/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fgslc-bsa.org%2Fimages%2Fvar_not_a_turkey.jpg&hash=3a02c6350ef34b039a575b50515eaea57190398a)
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: Bar Wench on June 22, 2007, 07:39:58 AM
The point is that you never really learn by being just told something. You have to understand and the best way is to do it for yourself, mistakes and all.

As I say to my son until he gets to me "What do you think?"

Absolutely. However, I don't think that necessarily understanding it is necessary. My grasp of html is patchy at best and yet I can manage to get a website up and running.
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: GROWLER on June 22, 2007, 07:54:37 AM
Anyway, I'm hopefully about to prove the doubter wrong. ;)

I was up beavering away in here until 1am setting up my new web site.
Everything going fine until I came to pay the server who's automated system refused to accept any of my credit and switch cards despite several attempts.
I'll be ringing them at 9 to conclude this fine feat of mine.

The new web site looks pretty damned plain at the moment....just a very nice shade of green background with my text in normal font and  a little picture of some muddy tyres in the top left hand corner.
It needs to be developed, added to and improved, but at least it should be 'live' on the www for my potential cussies to see very very soon.  angel1
Got myself my ltd company name with .net for 11 squiddlies for 2 years. Well chuffed about that.
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: Bar Wench on June 22, 2007, 07:55:51 AM
Just remember that the sign of an amateur web master is whizzing blink text and a cursor that has crap attached to it as it whizzes round the screen. Try to keep it as clean as possible.
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: Snoopy on June 22, 2007, 07:56:46 AM
The point is that you never really learn by being just told something. You have to understand and the best way is to do it for yourself, mistakes and all.

As I say to my son until he gets to me "What do you think?"

Absolutely. However, I don't think that necessarily understanding it is necessary. My grasp of html is patchy at best and yet I can manage to get a website up and running.

Most Web-site builders that are available on the net will allow you to create the site in Windows and do the conversion to HTML for you. You do not need to even think about HTML .... just push the button when it tells you to.
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: Bar Wench on June 22, 2007, 07:58:55 AM
With mine the html bollocks runs in the background and I create it using what is basically a whizzy graphics package. Love it.
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: GROWLER on June 22, 2007, 08:04:08 AM
Just remember that the sign of an amateur web master is whizzing blink text and a cursor that has crap attached to it as it whizzes round the screen. Try to keep it as clean as possible.


I know I should learn this the hard way by simply not asking ::), but WHAT is 'blink text' please? rubschin:
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: Snoopy on June 22, 2007, 08:09:35 AM
Just remember that the sign of an amateur web master is whizzing blink text and a cursor that has crap attached to it as it whizzes round the screen. Try to keep it as clean as possible.


I know I should learn this the hard way by simply not asking ::), but WHAT is 'blink text' please? rubschin:

Basically exactly what it says IE Text that blinks on and off or does other fancy stuff that confuses people like this
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: GROWLER on June 22, 2007, 08:19:38 AM
Just remember that the sign of an amateur web master is whizzing blink text and a cursor that has crap attached to it as it whizzes round the screen. Try to keep it as clean as possible.


I know I should learn this the hard way by simply not asking ::), but WHAT is 'blink text' please? rubschin:

Basically exactly what it says IE Text that blinks on and off or does other fancy stuff that confuses people like this

How dya do that then? eeek:
Sorry. Shouldn't have asked. ;)

Mighty impressive. Shite, but impressive. lol:

No. My site will be an oasis of peace carmness and tranquility. No tricks, no fancy stuff, just a plain and simple description of what I'm offering. 8)
Probably chuck a few snaps in eventually.
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: Bar Wench on June 22, 2007, 08:27:14 AM
See you think it's impressive! When really it is all just a bit sad.  point:
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: GROWLER on June 22, 2007, 08:36:25 AM
See you think it's impressive! When really it is all just a bit sad.  point:

No. You misunderstand.
Impressive in that it's impressive in what can be done, but shite as i said, in what and how it looks.
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: Bar Wench on June 22, 2007, 08:50:50 AM
Ahhhh I am with you now. I take back the  point:
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: Snoopy on June 22, 2007, 09:25:29 AM
Just remember that the sign of an amateur web master is whizzing blink text and a cursor that has crap attached to it as it whizzes round the screen. Try to keep it as clean as possible.


I know I should learn this the hard way by simply not asking ::), but WHAT is 'blink text' please? rubschin:

Basically exactly what it says IE Text that blinks on and off or does other fancy stuff that confuses people like this

How dya do that then? eeek:
Sorry. Shouldn't have asked. ;)

Mighty impressive. Shite, but impressive. lol:

No. My site will be an oasis of peace carmness and tranquility. No tricks, no fancy stuff, just a plain and simple description of what I'm offering. 8)
Probably chuck a few snaps in eventually.

If you play about with PowerPoint you can make almost anything happen to your script but to achieve the travelling effect just look above the emoticons on this board and you will see a letter M with arrows either side. The Letter is travelling across the little screen. Now highlight the line you want to move and click on the travelling M. and
BINGO
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: Snoopy on June 22, 2007, 09:31:13 AM
I hear that Power Point presentations are now considered NAFF as well they should be when people substitute effects for content and facts .
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: Barman on June 22, 2007, 09:35:01 AM
I hear that Power Point presentations are now considered NAFF as well they should be when people substitute effects for content and facts .
Agreed ? once you see the first slide zoom off the corner of the page or merge into the next you can be sure that the content will be shite!  point:
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: Bar Wench on June 22, 2007, 09:48:41 AM
I refuse to use power point. All my demos are html files.  redface:
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: Grumpmeister on June 22, 2007, 09:57:44 AM
I refuse to use power point. All my demos are html files.  redface:

And you call me a geek?  point:
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: Barman on June 22, 2007, 10:01:15 AM
I refuse to use power point. All my demos are html files.  redface:

And you call me a geek?  point:
And me!  angry037
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: Bar Wench on June 22, 2007, 10:10:56 AM
I know.  redface:
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: Grumpmeister on June 22, 2007, 11:44:03 AM
Wenchy the geekette  point:
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: Darwins Selection on June 22, 2007, 03:17:30 PM
The new web site looks pretty damned plain at the moment....just a very nice shade of green background with my text in normal font and  a little picture of some muddy tyres in the top left hand corner.
Don't you even wash them before hawking them about?
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: GROWLER on June 22, 2007, 08:46:48 PM
The new web site looks pretty damned plain at the moment....just a very nice shade of green background with my text in normal font and  a little picture of some muddy tyres in the top left hand corner.
Don't you even wash them before hawking them about?

Shut yer gob yous, or you'll be terkeyless in the mornin' lah. OK? eveilgrin:
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: Darwins Selection on June 22, 2007, 11:55:52 PM
The new web site looks pretty damned plain at the moment....just a very nice shade of green background with my text in normal font and  a little picture of some muddy tyres in the top left hand corner.
Don't you even wash them before hawking them about?
Shut yer gob yous, or you'll be terkeyless in the mornin' lah. OK? eveilgrin:
Everybody else was trying to help with marketing tips for the website. cry: scared:
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: GROWLER on June 23, 2007, 10:40:44 AM
First major cock up alert. ::)
U.M. will be so pleased with me as i cocked up ALL on my own without help or guidance from ANYONE! angel1

After much deliberation and late night trawling and comparing of diy web site sites, I finally decided to use a UK based company.
Purchased my .net domain off them, and applied for what i thought was the diy package and hosting.
Tried to gain access to the web building programme, but couldn't find it.
After an hour of struggling through pages of options and stuff, I finally resorted to ringing their help desk.
I'd only gone and purchased one of the host only packages. ::)
Too much choice and options blinded me I suspect, 'kin duffer. crash:

I've now cancelled this, and will get all my money back when their accounts dept opens up again on monday morning, and will then be able to purchase the pack i need.
Well impressed with the help desk though. Dead sympathetic and helpful, AND they answered the phone quickly.

Growlers very simple and basic web site will be up and running on monday evening.  whistle:
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: Misunderstood on June 23, 2007, 02:10:13 PM
First major cock up alert. ::)
U.M. will be so pleased with me as i cocked up ALL on my own without help or guidance from ANYONE! angel1

After much deliberation and late night trawling and comparing of diy web site sites, I finally decided to use a UK based company.
Purchased my .net domain off them, and applied for what i thought was the diy package and hosting.
Tried to gain access to the web building programme, but couldn't find it.
After an hour of struggling through pages of options and stuff, I finally resorted to ringing their help desk.
I'd only gone and purchased one of the host only packages. ::)
Too much choice and options blinded me I suspect, 'kin duffer. crash:

I've now cancelled this, and will get all my money back when their accounts dept opens up again on monday morning, and will then be able to purchase the pack i need.
Well impressed with the help desk though. Dead sympathetic and helpful, AND they answered the phone quickly.

Growlers very simple and basic web site will be up and running on monday evening.  whistle:


A host only site is not so much of a problem as you think.

You can shop around for free (unlikey for a business site) or cut priced web servers anywhere in the world.

Once space is secured, you can 'point' your web address to the new host site and display it there.   People will not even know it has been diverted.

Cost is usually minimal for the first page and then rises as your business demands more details and crucially more bandwidth to cope with more demand, but as that is a sign of increasing company earnings it shouldn't bother you.

Keep a small simple web page to start with and let demand point the way to expansion and improvements,  Much more sensible than an expensive and complicated site that has the potential to confound customers.

The essential stuff on a basic page is, a brief description of what you are offering, how to find you, an indication of how much it will cost them, and contact details - name and address, phone, fax and e-mail address.

A picture or two to illustrate the essence of it all to those that can't cope with text is good but everything else is optional.

Your web page is there to open lines of communication and information but not for entertainment.   First you need to promote awareness of the existance of your site and then once they have found it, give them the basic facts before they get bored.   The average web surfer these days will quit looking for information and move on in less than 30 seconds if the page is too complicated to read or to heavy in graphics to load quickly.

Your home page must load on any browser by any connecting method (remember dial-up still exists) in less that 15 seconds,  if lots of pictures prove necessary, then they can be in sub-pages where people will look if they are interested enough,  They won't stick around to be interested in the first place if it doesn't open to start with.

Remember the importance of POP/SMTP mailboxes mentioned earlier.
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: Darwins Selection on June 23, 2007, 03:55:48 PM

A host only site is not so much of a problem as you think.

You can shop around for free (unlikey for a business site) or cut priced web servers anywhere in the world.

Once space is secured, you can 'point' your web address to the new host site and display it there.   People will not even know it has been diverted.

Cost is usually minimal for the first page and then rises as your business demands more details and crucially more bandwidth to cope with more demand, but as that is a sign of increasing company earnings it shouldn't bother you.

Keep a small simple web page to start with and let demand point the way to expansion and improvements,  Much more sensible than an expensive and complicated site that has the potential to confound customers.

The essential stuff on a basic page is, a brief description of what you are offering, how to find you, an indication of how much it will cost them, and contact details - name and address, phone, fax and e-mail address.

A picture or two to illustrate the essence of it all to those that can't cope with text is good but everything else is optional.

Your web page is there to open lines of communication and information but not for entertainment.   First you need to promote awareness of the existance of your site and then once they have found it, give them the basic facts before they get bored.   The average web surfer these days will quit looking for information and move on in less than 30 seconds if the page is too complicated to read or to heavy in graphics to load quickly.

Your home page must load on any browser by any connecting method (remember dial-up still exists) in less that 15 seconds,  if lots of pictures prove necessary, then they can be in sub-pages where people will look if they are interested enough,  They won't stick around to be interested in the first place if it doesn't open to start with.

Remember the importance of POP/SMTP mailboxes mentioned earlier.

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Mmmmm..... pearls, yummy. ;D


Thank Bouncer, I am trying to take all this in and I hope Growler is getting more of it than I am. Banghead

Is there a "Lets make a Website" text book for schools that you could point us at?
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: Misunderstood on June 23, 2007, 04:08:10 PM


Thank Bouncer, I am trying to take all this in and I hope Growler is getting more of it than I am. Banghead

Is there a "Lets make a Website" text book for schools that you could point us at?

Like this one d'y'mean?

http://www.letsmakeawebsite.com/
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: GROWLER on June 23, 2007, 04:55:02 PM



(https://www.virtual-pub.com/SMF/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fblueridgeblog.blogs.com%2Fblue_ridge_blog%2Fimages%2Fpigs_1.jpg&hash=8804335e03a873afc13a20555f9df6fa54c42143)



I bloody luuuuuurve pigs. cloud9:
Just thought I'd share that with you.
Lovely creatures.
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: Snoopy on June 23, 2007, 04:57:50 PM
(https://www.virtual-pub.com/SMF/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm1.static.flickr.com%2F42%2F82132809_7a12c25ebd_m.jpg&hash=f7a11cfb275b3b67c41ab4579c25cc41273f50fd)

Me Too!
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: Misunderstood on June 23, 2007, 05:05:02 PM
 Banghead Banghead Banghead Banghead Banghead

                              surrender:
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: Snoopy on June 23, 2007, 05:21:57 PM
 char090
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: GROWLER on June 23, 2007, 05:31:47 PM
I can assure you Bouncer, that my site WILL be very plain and simple to read.
Just the very outline but concise details of what I'll be offering potential cuzzies.
 
I'll send you a link for some constructive critisism when it's up and running if you like.
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: GROWLER on June 23, 2007, 05:35:18 PM





Is there a "Lets make a Website" text book for schools that you could point us at

Turkey on a piggin' bike! Don't tell me you're going to start one up?shocked003
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: Darwins Selection on June 23, 2007, 06:40:47 PM
Is there a "Lets make a Website" text book for schools that you could point us at
Turkey on a piggin' bike! Don't tell me you're going to start one up?shocked003

Christ no!

I just want to acquire enough knowledge to be dangerous when I butt in and try to upset those that are. ;)

This is as near as I got http://www.greenlink-berkshire.org.uk/Local_Economy.htm (http://www.greenlink-berkshire.org.uk/Local_Economy.htm)

Until the unfortunate incident with my April 1st article on Artificial Insemination . . . .  redface:

Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: Snoopy on June 23, 2007, 06:45:45 PM
Is there a "Lets make a Website" text book for schools that you could point us at
Turkey on a piggin' bike! Don't tell me you're going to start one up?shocked003

Christ no!

I just want to acquire enough knowledge to be dangerous when I butt in and try to upset those that are. ;)

This is as near as I got http://www.greenlink-berkshire.org.uk/Local_Economy.htm (http://www.greenlink-berkshire.org.uk/Local_Economy.htm)

Until the unfortunate incident with my April 1st article on Artificial Insemination . . . .  redface:



DS You really are a silly sod!  happy001 happy001 happy001




I even clicked on that bloody link
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: GROWLER on June 23, 2007, 07:47:07 PM
Is there a "Lets make a Website" text book for schools that you could point us at
Turkey on a piggin' bike! Don't tell me you're going to start one up?shocked003

Christ no!

I just want to acquire enough knowledge to be dangerous when I butt in and try to upset those that are. ;)

This is as near as I got http://www.greenlink-berkshire.org.uk/Local_Economy.htm (http://www.greenlink-berkshire.org.uk/Local_Economy.htm)

Until the unfortunate incident with my April 1st article on Artificial Insemination . . . .  redface:



WHICH bloody article. I can't see it.
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: Misunderstood on June 23, 2007, 08:54:05 PM
I can assure you Bouncer, that my site WILL be very plain and simple to read.
Just the very outline but concise details of what I'll be offering potential cuzzies.
 
I'll send you a link for some constructive critisism when it's up and running if you like.

Once you have it up and running you wont need any more criticism, only practice.  ;)

Your customers will tell you everything you'll need to know.
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: Uncle Mort on June 23, 2007, 10:13:09 PM
First major cock up alert. ::)
U.M. will be so pleased with me as i cocked up ALL on my own without help or guidance from ANYONE! angel1

After much deliberation and late night trawling and comparing of diy web site sites, I finally decided to use a UK based company.
Purchased my .net domain off them, and applied for what i thought was the diy package and hosting.
Tried to gain access to the web building programme, but couldn't find it.
After an hour of struggling through pages of options and stuff, I finally resorted to ringing their help desk.
I'd only gone and purchased one of the host only packages. ::)
Too much choice and options blinded me I suspect, 'kin duffer. crash:

I've now cancelled this, and will get all my money back when their accounts dept opens up again on monday morning, and will then be able to purchase the pack i need.
Well impressed with the help desk though. Dead sympathetic and helpful, AND they answered the phone quickly.

Growlers very simple and basic web site will be up and running on monday evening.  whistle:


See... the best way to learn is by a bit of trial and error.

 happ096
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: GROWLER on June 23, 2007, 10:19:53 PM
Could easily have cost me 60 quid though. Didn't read about the 30 day money back guarentee. They told me! eeek:
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: Uncle Mort on June 23, 2007, 10:24:13 PM
Could easily have cost me 60 quid though. Didn't read about the 30 day money back guarentee. They told me! eeek:

Quote
Well impressed with the help desk though. Dead sympathetic and helpful, AND they answered the phone quickly.

 happy088


Sounds like you've found the right company.
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: Darwins Selection on June 23, 2007, 10:54:00 PM
Is there a "Lets make a Website" text book for schools that you could point us at
Turkey on a piggin' bike! Don't tell me you're going to start one up?shocked003

Christ no!

I just want to acquire enough knowledge to be dangerous when I butt in and try to upset those that are. ;)

This is as near as I got http://www.greenlink-berkshire.org.uk/Local_Economy.htm (http://www.greenlink-berkshire.org.uk/Local_Economy.htm)

Until the unfortunate incident with my April 1st article on Artificial Insemination . . . .  redface:



WHICH bloody article. I can't see it.

This was 2003 and it was only there until somebody with a 3 digit IQ read it. cussing:
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: GROWLER on June 24, 2007, 08:34:13 AM
So DS. Lets get this straight. rubschin:
You are showing us an article from some farty old farmy type tree huggers forum that ISN'T there? noooo:

Yea. Great. We really appreciate that. ::)
It's a bit like saying, "here, look at the prize you haven't won" evil:
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: Barman on June 24, 2007, 08:51:57 AM
So DS. Lets get this straight. rubschin:
You are showing us an article from some farty old farmy type tree huggers forum that ISN'T there? noooo:

Yea. Great. We really appreciate that. ::)
It's a bit like saying, "here, look at the prize you haven't won" evil:
[Bowen] But you could?ve won a lovely caravan?  [/Bowen] whistle:
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: GROWLER on June 24, 2007, 09:06:51 AM
Hey! I've just been awarded a 'google ad's voucher' worth 20 snotters from my new server, appaerently!

Oh. Really? confused:
Anyone want to buy it .... rubschin: 30 quid? ;)
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: Misunderstood on June 24, 2007, 03:16:54 PM
Hey! I've just been awarded a 'google ad's voucher' worth 20 snotters from my new server, appaerently!

Oh. Really? confused:
Anyone want to buy it .... rubschin: 30 quid? ;)

Lucky - lucky you!

No ta.
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: GROWLER on June 24, 2007, 04:30:25 PM
New www.net + 24 hours and counting!  clock:

Even I'm getting excited now.  drumroll:


Note to Nick.
Just been to the swamp, and it IS swampy again. eeek:
Stopped outside Nick Towers on the way back and bellowed up at your 'barlcony'  ::).....oi, tosser,you comin' out to play?
You missed out on a delicious home made ice cream, hiding behind those crushed velvet curtains. sex023
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: Darwins Selection on June 25, 2007, 10:54:18 AM
New www.net + 24 hours and counting!  clock:

Even I'm getting excited now.  drumroll:


Well. . . . . ?
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: GROWLER on June 25, 2007, 11:02:58 AM
New www.net + 24 hours and counting!  clock:

Even I'm getting excited now.  drumroll:


Well. . . . . ?

Still waiting for the cancellation 'nod' off me server...like.
Once that's been emailed to me I'll have it up and running in no time.
Got me script hovering in an email I've not sent to meself, to simply copy and paste onto the home page....voila!
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: Darwins Selection on June 25, 2007, 11:04:41 AM
New www.net + 24 hours and counting!  clock:

Even I'm getting excited now.  drumroll:


Well. . . . . ?

Still waiting for the cancellation 'nod' off me server...like.
Once that's been emailed to me I'll have it up and running in no time.
Got me script hovering in an email I've not sent to meself, to simply copy and paste onto the home page....voila!

Bravo!

You make it sound so easy. ;)
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: Barman on June 25, 2007, 11:05:13 AM
New www.net + 24 hours and counting!  clock:

Even I'm getting excited now.  drumroll:


Well. . . . . ?

Still waiting for the cancellation 'nod' off me server...like.
Once that's been emailed to me I'll have it up and running in no time.
Got me script hovering in an email I've not sent to meself, to simply copy and paste onto the home page....voila!
pcwhack:
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: Bar Wench on June 25, 2007, 11:09:21 AM
Bets for how long it takes him to stick his foot through the pc screen?  point:
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: GROWLER on June 25, 2007, 11:25:59 AM
Bets for how long it takes him to stick his foot through the pc screen?  point:

Look. After 9 bloody pages of badgering, THIS has got to happen. OK? whistle:
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: Barman on June 25, 2007, 11:32:46 AM
5 - 4 - 3 - 2 - 1 (https://www.virtual-pub.com/SMF/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.freesmileys.org%2Femo%2Fwhacky086.gif&hash=c30149f5321ad3575ddb8d17d471ffb967be7532) (http://www.freesmileys.org)
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: Snoopy on June 25, 2007, 11:33:05 AM
You had to go and mention Badgers didn't you.  ::)
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: GROWLER on June 25, 2007, 11:36:18 AM
5 - 4 - 3 - 2 - 1 (https://www.virtual-pub.com/SMF/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.freesmileys.org%2Femo%2Fwhacky086.gif&hash=c30149f5321ad3575ddb8d17d471ffb967be7532) (http://www.freesmileys.org)

You see. Mock all you like. ::)

I can put you back to 100 you know. whistle: It was ME that got you back into doubles. Just remeber who your friends are ey? ;)
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: Grumpmeister on June 25, 2007, 02:20:58 PM
Bets for how long it takes him to stick his foot through the pc screen?  point:

2 seconds after someone on here tells him to reboot his machine  drumroll:
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: GROWLER on June 25, 2007, 02:21:04 PM
Just rung 'mine host'. They answered before I'd even picked the phone up! eeek:
Why can't other call centers be this efficient?

My web site package will (alledgedly) be ready for uploading in approx 2 hours! drumroll:
Stand by for complete www shut/meltdown. scared2:
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: GROWLER on June 25, 2007, 02:25:10 PM
Bets for how long it takes him to stick his foot through the pc screen?  point:

2 seconds after someone on here tells him to reboot his machine  drumroll:

This would easily explain the reason for the dents in the big black box presumably full of gubins tall thingy then. crash:
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: GROWLER on June 27, 2007, 06:39:39 PM
I DON'T BELIEVE IT! eeek:

I've done it!
All 1 page of my new web site are up and running, including 2 'about us's'...don't ask, cus I really don't know. confused:

It looks shite and naf, but it is to the point. Editing to follow. pcwhack:

Whuhay! Tickle my tummy! happy001
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: Snoopy on June 27, 2007, 06:49:36 PM
(https://www.virtual-pub.com/SMF/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dog-training-information.com%2Fimage-files%2Ftickle.jpg&hash=22c733a22646f6685c0b27b26bd9c53affdcf382)

Your wish is my command
Well Done
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: Darwins Selection on June 27, 2007, 07:16:24 PM
I DON'T BELIEVE IT! eeek:

I've done it!
All 1 page of my new web site are up and running, including 2 'about us's'...don't ask, cus I really don't know. confused:

It looks shite and naf, but it is to the point. Editing to follow. pcwhack:

Whuhay! Tickle my tummy! happy001
Well done you old scrote.

You are now officially an 'expert'. drumroll:
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: Bar Wench on June 27, 2007, 07:19:01 PM
So are you going to show us then?
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: GROWLER on June 27, 2007, 10:00:20 PM
So are you going to show us then?

Funny that. That's what all the gerls say. cloud9:

I sadly am unable to publicly advertise the web address on here for fear of certain undesirables that MAY come in here and use it as some sort of instrument to give me more unwanted heartache.
I'm no expert on these matters, and believe me, I would love to publicise it, as the google spiders could then start werkin' on it to get  me up the ratings....I believe...apparently?
Advice on all this would be greatly appreciated, but it's NOT something I would care to take an ignorant risk over on this occassion...Uncle Mort. ;)
I'm sure or at least hope that you understand my concerns.
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: Uncle Mort on June 28, 2007, 08:25:42 AM
No problem Growler, I get the impression from some of your post that there are some out there who bear you ill will. Why I have no idea.

We may rag you a bit but we're not malicious.

You could always PM those you trust.
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: Darwins Selection on June 28, 2007, 08:56:23 AM
No problem Growler, I get the impression from some of your post that there are some out there who bear you ill will. Why I have no idea.

We may rag you a bit but we're not malicious.

You could always PM those you trust.

That'll be a very short list then. ;)
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: Bar Wench on June 28, 2007, 09:21:45 AM
So are you going to show us then?

Funny that. That's what all the gerls say. cloud9:

I sadly am unable to publicly advertise the web address on here for fear of certain undesirables that MAY come in here and use it as some sort of instrument to give me more unwanted heartache.
I'm no expert on these matters, and believe me, I would love to publicise it, as the google spiders could then start werkin' on it to get  me up the ratings....I believe...apparently?
Advice on all this would be greatly appreciated, but it's NOT something I would care to take an ignorant risk over on this occassion...Uncle Mort. ;)
I'm sure or at least hope that you understand my concerns.

Totally understand. Silly question in hindsight.

On the google thing it only works with relevant links. You will lost points for link farms etc.
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: GROWLER on June 28, 2007, 03:48:58 PM
No problem Growler, I get the impression from some of your post that there are some out there who bear you ill will. Why I have no idea.

We may rag you a bit but we're not malicious.

You could always PM those you trust.

That'll be a very short list then. ;)

Short maybe....is there a pun in there that I can't see? confused:.....
short maybe, but long enough for just one tithead from another forum to get hold of my email address and wreak havoc possibly?
How bloody sad is that ey? Denying me some valuable advertising. evil:
On saying that, our very own hound dog doesn't seem to be worried about his being abused does he?
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: Darwins Selection on June 28, 2007, 04:32:38 PM
No problem Growler, I get the impression from some of your post that there are some out there who bear you ill will. Why I have no idea.

We may rag you a bit but we're not malicious.

You could always PM those you trust.

That'll be a very short list then. ;)

Short maybe....is there a pun in there that I can't see? confused:.....
short maybe, but long enough for just one tithead from another forum to get hold of my email address and wreak havoc possibly?
How bloody sad is that ey? Denying me some valuable advertising. evil:
On saying that, our very own hound dog doesn't seem to be worried about his being abused does he?

There is little damage left to be done in the whole of North Wales.

I think you are wise to keep it under wraps, but be prepared, as some undesirable will find it eventually. Banghead

I hope you will let us know when you get your first proper business through 'E-commerce'. ;)

Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: Snoopy on June 28, 2007, 05:30:44 PM
No problem Growler, I get the impression from some of your post that there are some out there who bear you ill will. Why I have no idea.

We may rag you a bit but we're not malicious.

You could always PM those you trust.

That'll be a very short list then. ;)

Short maybe....is there a pun in there that I can't see? confused:.....
short maybe, but long enough for just one tithead from another forum to get hold of my email address and wreak havoc possibly?
How bloody sad is that ey? Denying me some valuable advertising. evil:
On saying that, our very own hound dog doesn't seem to be worried about his being abused does he?

No one has ever abused me because of that site being available to view.
I seldom open any emails sent to it although it displays an Info@ address.  redface:
Neither my colleague in the venture nor I have ever been telephoned by anyone for anything other than sensible enquiries about matters on the site ~ usually "will you put my business on it please" or "will you change my 'phone number/address etc" ~ despite both of our numbers being displayed on the site.
We did expect to get some stupid calls but to be honest I think there is just so much else on the web to play with they can't be bothered with us. Any site, to be of any use, has to have contact details. If you stick to info@ etc and perhaps get an 0800 number or a mobile (pay as you go variety) and use that purely for enquiries you can soon filter out any unwanted contacts and once your site is up nobody will be able to get into it except you as "they" won't have the passwords. Believe me none of them have the brains or ability to "hack" their way in.
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: GROWLER on June 28, 2007, 06:08:19 PM
I feel so much more assured now DS. scared2:
 Thanks for that little gem of trust hope and wisdom. ::)
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: Darwins Selection on June 28, 2007, 06:16:45 PM
I feel so much more assured now DS. scared2:
 Thanks for that little gem of trust hope and wisdom. ::)
You're welcome, any time. ;)
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: GROWLER on June 28, 2007, 07:44:18 PM
Right then I.T. boffin pickers.
HOW TF do I re-size some piccies that I have stored in this heap of shite down to 900KB's.
Apparently mine are 'TOO BIG' to load onto me web site. ::)

Don't be giving me complicated instructions now, or I'll cry, stamp me feet and insist on U.M. to do it for me. lol:
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: Bar Wench on June 28, 2007, 09:09:45 PM
You need to make them into low resolution .gif files for the web. Do you have photoshop or something of that ilk?
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: GROWLER on June 29, 2007, 11:29:38 PM
You need to make them into low resolution .gif files for the web. Do you have photoshop or something of that ilk?

Ey? Who? I dunno. ::)
Got some sort of file for puttin' me photos in, yes. Tried editing them but made a complete and utter bollox of it. Made them smaller...i think...and have stuffed them in some unamed file i can't find now...along with the other 10,000 unamed files i've got in this heap of electrical turdery.
Manged to form a piccy gallery on me web anyway ......with the help of my kids redface:, and that's ok at least.  ;)
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: Berek on June 30, 2007, 07:25:28 AM

...along with the other 10,000 unamed files i've got in this heap of electrical turdery.

 eyes: eyes: ;) ;) rubschin:
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: Barman on June 30, 2007, 09:23:19 AM

...along with the other 10,000 unamed files i've got in this heap of electrical turdery.

 eyes: eyes: ;) ;) rubschin:
Don't take it into PC World with all that porn on there...  noooo:
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: GROWLER on June 30, 2007, 06:43:13 PM
Serious question.
My web site has been invaded by the DREADED RED X eeek:
Why? confused:

Was fine when the piccies were loaded a few hours ago. confused2:

If anyone in here would like to see the new business web site I've been constructing, with a great deal of help and advice from my 14 yr old son, as well as you lot...for which I thank you all for your patience and humour....then let me know, and I'll pm the link to you.

PLEASE THOUGH......
respect, that as previously mentioned, i very sadly don't think it wise to publicise it on here openly, as it has contact details/email address etc., and I do value what little bit of sanity and privacy i have left.
I'm sure you understand where I'm comin' from and hope no one is insulted with my plea.
Just how sad is THAT ey? Worried about the possible malicious actions of just one or two people who have in the past tried to make my life a bloody misery...with near success.

I would like to share it with you after all my witterings over the past couple of weeks, and p'raps receive a bit of constuctive critisism, further help and or............... praise even? lol:
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: Snoopy on June 30, 2007, 06:51:36 PM
Serious question.
My web site has been invaded by the DREADED RED X eeek:

Was fine when the piccies were loaded a few hours ago. confused2:

And it's fine now. I just looked.
The RedX must be your pop-up protection of some such. I don't know much about such things but I reckon it is your PC that is blocking your piccies.
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: GROWLER on June 30, 2007, 07:02:34 PM
Serious question.
My web site has been invaded by the DREADED RED X eeek:

Was fine when the piccies were loaded a few hours ago. confused2:

And it's fine now. I just looked.
The RedX must be your pop-up protection of some such. I don't know much about such things but I reckon it is your PC that is blocking your piccies.

Some piccies are red x'd, others are not. Seems a bit random tbh.
As long as it's ok your end though I suppose, but I must get this fixed so I know what everyone else can see is correct and as it should be.
Spent ages putting the map in with much editing and painting of directions, but even that has gone red x now too. evil:
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: Snoopy on June 30, 2007, 07:05:41 PM
Serious question.
My web site has been invaded by the DREADED RED X eeek:

Was fine when the piccies were loaded a few hours ago. confused2:

And it's fine now. I just looked.
The RedX must be your pop-up protection of some such. I don't know much about such things but I reckon it is your PC that is blocking your piccies.

Some piccies are red x'd, others are not. Seems a bit random tbh.
As long as it's ok your end though I suppose, but I must get this fixed so I know what everyone else can see is correct and as it should be.
Spent ages putting the map in with much editing and painting of directions, but even that has gone red x now too. evil:

I f*cking hate computers ~ for all their advantages and the fun we can share .... they still retain the ability to p*ss me off at the wrong moments.
I'm sure it will be resolvable and as I say it looks good from this side of the estuary.
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: GROWLER on June 30, 2007, 07:19:25 PM
Serious question.
My web site has been invaded by the DREADED RED X eeek:

Was fine when the piccies were loaded a few hours ago. confused2:

And it's fine now. I just looked.
The RedX must be your pop-up protection of some such. I don't know much about such things but I reckon it is your PC that is blocking your piccies.

Some piccies are red x'd, others are not. Seems a bit random tbh.
As long as it's ok your end though I suppose, but I must get this fixed so I know what everyone else can see is correct and as it should be.
Spent ages putting the map in with much editing and painting of directions, but even that has gone red x now too. evil:

I f*cking hate computers ~ for all their advantages and the fun we can share .... they still retain the ability to p*ss me off at the wrong moments.
I'm sure it will be resolvable and as I say it looks good from this side of the estuary.

...and if you look carefully at the web cam link on the weather forecast page, you can see over the estuary quite clearly too! lol:
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: Snoopy on June 30, 2007, 07:34:17 PM
Serious question.
My web site has been invaded by the DREADED RED X eeek:

Was fine when the piccies were loaded a few hours ago. confused2:

And it's fine now. I just looked.
The RedX must be your pop-up protection of some such. I don't know much about such things but I reckon it is your PC that is blocking your piccies.

Some piccies are red x'd, others are not. Seems a bit random tbh.
As long as it's ok your end though I suppose, but I must get this fixed so I know what everyone else can see is correct and as it should be.
Spent ages putting the map in with much editing and painting of directions, but even that has gone red x now too. evil:

I f*cking hate computers ~ for all their advantages and the fun we can share .... they still retain the ability to p*ss me off at the wrong moments.
I'm sure it will be resolvable and as I say it looks good from this side of the estuary.

...and if you look carefully at the web cam link on the weather forecast page, you can see over the estuary quite clearly too! lol:

I'll run upstairs and wave me hankie out of the window then.  doh:
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: GROWLER on June 30, 2007, 07:40:21 PM
See the cam I mean? West Kirby prom. one?
That's lookin' straight out at your neck of the woods in'it?

Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: Snoopy on June 30, 2007, 07:44:43 PM
See the cam I mean? West Kirby prom. one?
That's lookin' straight out at your neck of the woods in'it?



More or less.
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: GROWLER on June 30, 2007, 07:48:43 PM
Anyway, I just remembered some discussion 'over there' about this problem a few months ago.
Wasn't one solution to right click on the X and then click on 'show picture' supposed to work? rubschin:
Bloody didn't here.

I'll wait to see if any of our resident 'experts' have some more ideas.
As long as it doesn't involve doing owt complicated in here though.  surrender:
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: Darwins Selection on June 30, 2007, 07:51:11 PM
I'll run upstairs and wave me hankie out of the window then.  doh:

You might have used a clean one.  sick2:

That looked more like you were flying the Nigerian flag.

(https://www.virtual-pub.com/SMF/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.theodora.com%2Fflags%2Fnew13%2Fnigeria-s.gif&hash=b579e263167abb25c6720b0556e67b65366f2241)
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: Snoopy on July 01, 2007, 04:57:04 AM
I'll run upstairs and wave me hankie out of the window then.  doh:

You might have used a clean one.  sick2:

That looked more like you were flying the Nigerian flag.

(https://www.virtual-pub.com/SMF/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.theodora.com%2Fflags%2Fnew13%2Fnigeria-s.gif&hash=b579e263167abb25c6720b0556e67b65366f2241)

 censored: cussing: censored:
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: GROWLER on July 01, 2007, 09:12:37 AM
This morning, SOME of the red x's have disappeared, and the piccies are back. WTF? rubschin: noooo:

Nick has just pointed out a couple of spelling errors. Must have been GROWLER jnr's doing. whistle:
Why, when the host/server IS British, and they make a fuss about that fact, do they use a bloody totally useless Amercan spell checker? evil:
The Yanks can't get anythink write, espeshully speling.
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: GROWLER on July 01, 2007, 09:16:06 AM
Turd on a stick. evil:
The bloody link from my favourites to me site are now showing this:

Sorry! Direct access to this page is not allowed!

Please try accessing this page through the links available on your service provider's website.

WHY? it was OK yesterday. crash: crash: crash:
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: Barman on July 01, 2007, 09:17:08 AM
Turd on a stick. evil:
The bloody link from my favourites to me site are now showing this:

Sorry! Direct access to this page is not allowed!

Please try accessing this page through the links available on your service provider's website.

WHY? it was OK yesterday. crash: crash: crash:

You fiddled with it didn?t you?  pcwhack:
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: GROWLER on July 01, 2007, 09:22:50 AM
Turd on a stick. evil:
The bloody link from my favourites to me site are now showing this:

Sorry! Direct access to this page is not allowed!

Please try accessing this page through the links available on your service provider's website.

WHY? it was OK yesterday. crash: crash: crash:

You fiddled with it didn?t you?  pcwhack:

NO I BLOODY DIDN'T. evil:
It was ok last night, and I haven't touched it since.
Tell you, these bloody things have a mind of their own.
Are they wimmen? rubschin:

Link winging it's way shortly. Hope it werks. ::)
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: Barman on July 01, 2007, 09:24:32 AM
Turd on a stick. evil:
The bloody link from my favourites to me site are now showing this:

Sorry! Direct access to this page is not allowed!

Please try accessing this page through the links available on your service provider's website.

WHY? it was OK yesterday. crash: crash: crash:

You fiddled with it didn?t you?  pcwhack:

NO I BLOODY DIDN'T. evil:
It was ok last night, and I haven't touched it since.
Tell you, these bloody things have a mind of their own.
Are they wimmen? rubschin:

Link winging it's way shortly. Hope it werks. ::)
I'll have a look for you...
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: GROWLER on July 01, 2007, 09:42:37 AM
My images have been posted as "text rather than broken links" ....apparently.
Ugh?

Still, not bad getting a response from them on a Sunday morning.

I'll go and fetch GROWLER Jnr  to fix it. lol:
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: Barman on July 01, 2007, 09:52:30 AM
My images have been posted as "text rather than broken links" ....apparently.
Ugh?

Still, not bad getting a response from them on a Sunday morning.

I'll go and fetch GROWLER Jnr  to fix it. lol:
Looking good Growler?  ;)

The only thing I can?t see is picture4 on the how to get there page.

Remember that on some servers the names are case sensitive so Picture4.jpg is different to picture4.jpg
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: GROWLER on July 01, 2007, 09:58:10 AM
My images have been posted as "text rather than broken links" ....apparently.
Ugh?

Still, not bad getting a response from them on a Sunday morning.

I'll go and fetch GROWLER Jnr  to fix it. lol:
Looking good Growler?  ;)

The only thing I can?t see is picture4 on the how to get there page.

Remember that on some servers the names are case sensitive so Picture4.jpg is different to picture4.jpg

That'll  simply be because it's been written in text rather than broken link. whistle:
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: Barman on July 01, 2007, 10:17:09 AM
My images have been posted as "text rather than broken links" ....apparently.
Ugh?

Still, not bad getting a response from them on a Sunday morning.

I'll go and fetch GROWLER Jnr  to fix it. lol:
Looking good Growler?  ;)

The only thing I can?t see is picture4 on the how to get there page.

Remember that on some servers the names are case sensitive so Picture4.jpg is different to picture4.jpg

That'll  simply be because it's been written in text rather than broken link. whistle:

The link seems okay but the file is missing - 404 error file not found...
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: GROWLER on July 01, 2007, 10:18:44 AM
My images have been posted as "text rather than broken links" ....apparently.
Ugh?

Still, not bad getting a response from them on a Sunday morning.

I'll go and fetch GROWLER Jnr  to fix it. lol:
Looking good Growler?  ;)

The only thing I can?t see is picture4 on the how to get there page.

Remember that on some servers the names are case sensitive so Picture4.jpg is different to picture4.jpg

That'll  simply be because it's been written in text rather than broken link. whistle:

The link seems okay but the file is missing - 404 error file not found...

All the bloody text has gone missing now when I come to edit! surrender: eeek:
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: Barman on July 01, 2007, 10:58:12 AM
My images have been posted as "text rather than broken links" ....apparently.
Ugh?

Still, not bad getting a response from them on a Sunday morning.

I'll go and fetch GROWLER Jnr  to fix it. lol:
Looking good Growler?  ;)

The only thing I can?t see is picture4 on the how to get there page.

Remember that on some servers the names are case sensitive so Picture4.jpg is different to picture4.jpg

That'll  simply be because it's been written in text rather than broken link. whistle:

The link seems okay but the file is missing - 404 error file not found...

All the bloody text has gone missing now when I come to edit! surrender: eeek:
Pub time then...  whistle:
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: GROWLER on July 01, 2007, 10:59:05 AM

All the bloody text has gone missing now when I come to edit! surrender: eeek:


...and now they've reappeared. Edited all the spelling mistakes, and added a bit more text, and.....nowt showing on the web...yet. whistle:
Bet you the edits will be showing in an hour though. This has happened before. Weird. confused:

edit...now showing after 15 minutes. Apostrophy on the word 'pubs' now removed Mr Nick. drumroll:
2nd edit...and now it's reverted back to the way it was. confused:
3rd edit...and now it's fine again! Like the bloody magic roundabout this place.

Noticed a card in the local chippy on Friday night, that some geezer will come 'round and give you lessons in 'How to use your computer'.
It's tempting as i want to get the best out of this shed. I luuurve a challenge, and must admit, I do like messing about with this 'thing' even though it's mighty frustrating
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: GROWLER on July 01, 2007, 08:23:29 PM
Slightly related. Does anyone in here have a credit card terminal in connection with their business?
Unfortunately I think I'm going to have to get one with all their inherent problems, but that it seems is the price you have to pay for getting the punters to part with their...well someone elses actually...money.

Any advice would be greatly received.
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: Snoopy on July 01, 2007, 08:39:09 PM
Slightly related. Does anyone in here have a credit card terminal in connection with their business?
Unfortunately I think I'm going to have to get one with all their inherent problems, but that it seems is the price you have to pay for getting the punters to part with their...well someone elses actually...money.

Any advice would be greatly received.

First Response is DON'T DO IT! Such things are (i) costly and (ii) you are unlikely to get one via your bank (If what you said about not having a bank account is true)
BUT
I see why you would need one so the rules are;
(i) Avoid the High Street Banks who are rip-off merchants in the extreme
(ii) Use an on-line company that will process credit card payments for you for a small commission
(iii) Do not sign up for an extended period so if you don't like them you can switch to another.
What you need is a painless way of getting the card accepted and the money less commission paid into your account ASAP. You customers will need a receipt from the card company and you will need the info that they have paid very quickly .... depending how far ahead they are booking.
Personally I would contact PayPal (the Ebay set-up) and see if they would handle that side of things for you. There are others but PayPal are pretty good and, I understand, not expensive. If they say no ask them who they would recommend.
Hope this helps.
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: GROWLER on July 01, 2007, 08:46:36 PM
Cheers for that Snoops.
I've now discovered that I do indeed have a bank account actually. eeek:
I'll take your advice and do a bit of searching for a company to take the payments for me I think.
I really don't want the hassle as I'm out and about all day robbin' radios and hub caps.  whistle:
Carrying a c/c terminal would be most inconvienient and take up valuable swag space.
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: Snoopy on July 01, 2007, 09:02:06 PM
Cheers for that Snoops.
I've now discovered that I do indeed have a bank account actually. eeek:
I'll take your advice and do a bit of searching for a company to take the payments for me I think.
I really don't want the hassle as I'm out and about all day robbin' radios and hub caps.  whistle:
Carrying a c/c terminal would be most inconvienient and take up valuable swag space.

Using someone like PayPal gives you the capability to take payments via the net as well as on the gate! laptop and mobile phone ~ that's what the market traders use.
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: Barman on July 02, 2007, 04:25:35 AM
Slightly related. Does anyone in here have a credit card terminal in connection with their business?
Unfortunately I think I'm going to have to get one with all their inherent problems, but that it seems is the price you have to pay for getting the punters to part with their...well someone elses actually...money.

Any advice would be greatly received.
As Snoops says, the terminals are a pain and expensive too.

I used WorldPay for many years ? they are supported by most ?web shop? software and also have a ?virtual terminal? facility where you can type-in credit card details on-line?
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: GROWLER on July 02, 2007, 10:02:21 AM
Just a thought. Do potential cuzzies have to be members of Pay Pal or World Pay to pay me?
Just how difficult is it to join up with either of them? Do you need some sort of seperate bank account? How reliable are they, and presumably not having a terminal thing, THEY have to post on the c/c receipt on to the cuzzie?
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: Barman on July 02, 2007, 10:12:49 AM
Just a thought. Do potential cuzzies have to be members of Pay Pal or World Pay to pay me?
Just how difficult is it to join up with either of them? Do you need some sort of seperate bank account? How reliable are they, and presumably not having a terminal thing, THEY have to post on the c/c receipt on to the cuzzie?
I?ve never used paypal in that way?

With WorldPay the transaction stuff is all sent via e-mail to the trader and the customers.

Simple to join up ? they just take a %age of the sale.
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: GROWLER on July 07, 2007, 07:53:41 AM
You lot got access to my web address?
126 hits in a week? confused:
OK, some of them are mine for editing and admirational browsing granted, but 126?

No bloody phone calls or customers yet though? ::)

On the credit card side of things, my bank will be wanting assurances that I'll be seeing at least 12k of transactions going through the machine per annum, or else! scared2:

Pay Pal and or World Pay it'll have to be then.
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: Misunderstood on July 07, 2007, 01:10:45 PM
You lot got access to my web address?
126 hits in a week? confused:
OK, some of them are mine for editing and admirational browsing granted, but 126?

No bloody phone calls or customers yet though? ::)


Not me  eeek: Not guilty!   I don't know your address.

Don't get too excited though, it is likely that the search bots of Google and Co are all over it as it's new and excitingly curious for them...

Give it a while...
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: GROWLER on July 07, 2007, 04:09:36 PM
You lot got access to my web address?
126 hits in a week? confused:
OK, some of them are mine for editing and admirational browsing granted, but 126?

No bloody phone calls or customers yet though? ::)


Not me  eeek: Not guilty!   I don't know your address.

Don't get too excited though, it is likely that the search bots of Google and Co are all over it as it's new and excitingly curious for them...

Give it a while...

Selected members can gain access you know. They only have to ask if their curiosity gets the better of them. eyes:
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: Uncle Mort on July 09, 2007, 08:15:25 AM

Selected members can gain access you know. They only have to ask if their curiosity gets the better of them. eyes:

Oh go on then, PM the address to me.
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: GROWLER on July 11, 2007, 12:15:55 PM

Selected members can gain access you know. They only have to ask if their curiosity gets the better of them. eyes:

Oh go on then, PM the address to me.

Just noticed this. Apologies. I'll send it, but mum's the werd...seriously, yes?
 Dunno what mum 's got to do with it mind. confused:

I've had 2 different comments about my site today. Both thought I'd had it done proffesionally. cloud9:




I was in specsavers at the time
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: GROWLER on July 18, 2007, 09:51:09 AM
Must have been internationalworld wide web crashing day yesterday ffs. evil:
First some of my web pages weren't loading, then I couldn't gain acces to edit, and when I finally DID manage to get in and spend nearly 2 bloody hours of my life editing, this bloody great heaving festering lump of electrical turdery told me that I was unauthorised to edit MY OWN bastard web site and promptly logged me out, thus losing ALL of my precious editing.
Bloody bastard twat c***ing bastard twat thing turd cock. evil: evil: evil: evil: crash: crash: crash:










...and one more for good luck you TWAT! crash:











sorry about that, but it made me feel better
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: tel on July 18, 2007, 10:08:35 AM
Don't you edit off-line and upload afterwards?
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: Bar Wench on July 18, 2007, 10:18:41 AM
Don't you edit off-line and upload afterwards?

That is what I was going to ask?

I also find it quite useful to have a second mirror site too. That is where I upload everything to start with to test and debug it etc before I upload it to the site proper. That way customers don't get dead links etc
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: tel on July 18, 2007, 10:41:47 AM
Frontpage used to have a really good preview as a site option, but I haven't used it in anger for about 6 years, so I guess things have moved on quite a bit since then.
Backups are so important, sites used to get corrupted if the uploads/updates got crashed.
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: Bar Wench on July 18, 2007, 10:47:29 AM
The preview option in GoLive which I use is pretty good. But I find it useful to have the mirror site so that other people can test it. To make sure links aren't done locally etc that pictures aren't being found on my hard drive instead of the web. That kind of thing.
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: GROWLER on July 18, 2007, 12:06:22 PM
No.I didn't think of doing that first tbh. Where can you get a 'mirror site' from?Not heard of that expression before. confused:

Uncle M will be well proud of me anyway...making my own mistakes and hopefully learning from them.
I apparently didn't wake everyone up at 12:30 am with all my thrashing bashing and very loud obsene language and exclamations when I lost eveything.
Incredible, as I really was a tad tired and unhappy.  eeek:
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: Bar Wench on July 18, 2007, 12:07:40 PM
No.I didn't think of doing that first tbh. Where can you get a 'mirror site' from?Not heard of that expression before. confused:

Uncle M will be well proud ofmeanyway...making my own mistakes and hopefully learning from them.
I apparently didn't wake everyone up at 12:30 am with all my thrashing bashing and very loud obsene language and exclamations when I lost eveything

It's just a second site that is identical to the first one. For instance ours are .ltd.uk and .com

.com is the real one that is on business cards etc and .ltd.uk is the one I use for testing.
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: GROWLER on July 18, 2007, 12:10:05 PM
No.I didn't think of doing that first tbh. Where can you get a 'mirror site' from?Not heard of that expression before. confused:

Uncle M will be well proud ofmeanyway...making my own mistakes and hopefully learning from them.
I apparently didn't wake everyone up at 12:30 am with all my thrashing bashing and very loud obsene language and exclamations when I lost eveything

It's just a second site that is identical to the first one. For instance ours are .ltd.uk and .com

.com is the real one that is on business cards etc and .ltd.uk is the one I use for testing.

So I've got to purchase another flamin' domain now then? ::)
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: Bar Wench on July 18, 2007, 12:10:43 PM
No.I didn't think of doing that first tbh. Where can you get a 'mirror site' from?Not heard of that expression before. confused:

Uncle M will be well proud ofmeanyway...making my own mistakes and hopefully learning from them.
I apparently didn't wake everyone up at 12:30 am with all my thrashing bashing and very loud obsene language and exclamations when I lost eveything

It's just a second site that is identical to the first one. For instance ours are .ltd.uk and .com

.com is the real one that is on business cards etc and .ltd.uk is the one I use for testing.

So I've got to purchase another flamin' domain now then? ::)

You don't have to. It's just a suggestion.  scared2:
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: GROWLER on July 18, 2007, 12:25:35 PM
No.I didn't think of doing that first tbh. Where can you get a 'mirror site' from?Not heard of that expression before. confused:

Uncle M will be well proud ofmeanyway...making my own mistakes and hopefully learning from them.
I apparently didn't wake everyone up at 12:30 am with all my thrashing bashing and very loud obsene language and exclamations when I lost eveything

It's just a second site that is identical to the first one. For instance ours are .ltd.uk and .com

.com is the real one that is on business cards etc and .ltd.uk is the one I use for testing.

So I've got to purchase another flamin' domain now then? ::)

You don't have to. It's just a suggestion.  scared2:

Yes. I know AND appreciate that Wenchy, and thank you accordingly. cloud9:

I was just questioning the fact that that is in fact what you have to do?

Can't I p'raps just do my word editing on Microsoft werd or summat, and then copy and paste it onto the web?

I know, I know, I'm tighter than a witches f****. ::)
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: Bar Wench on July 18, 2007, 01:00:16 PM
You can but I like other people to check it as once I've worked on something for bloody hours it all looks the same. This way I can tell five or six different people to check it and there isn't anyway they can change anything.
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: GROWLER on July 18, 2007, 01:02:01 PM
As part of the development of GROWLER PLC.com., I have today ordered my nice new GPS operated credit card machine.
If ANYONE would care to give me their credit card details for me to simply 'test' it, I would be most grateful.
Thank you in anticipation. happy088
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: Bar Wench on July 18, 2007, 01:03:22 PM
Accept this off with a complementary piss!  point:
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: Barman on July 18, 2007, 01:42:07 PM
As part of the development of GROWLER PLC.com., I have today ordered my nice new GPS operated credit card machine.
If ANYONE would care to give me their credit card details for me to simply 'test' it, I would be most grateful.
Thank you in anticipation. happy088
Hopefully you have ordered a GSM machine and not a GPS one?  eeek:
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: Bar Wench on July 18, 2007, 01:46:14 PM
I didn't like to say.  whistle:
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: Barman on July 18, 2007, 01:48:18 PM
I didn't like to say.  whistle:
Nor me... Ooopps.  whistle:
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: GROWLER on July 18, 2007, 06:16:03 PM
No, I did mean GPS. Global Positioning System or is it sattelite?

That's what they said to me on the blower anyway. I assume that's how it werks without wires or the need for a telephone. Bit like sat nav?
What's a GSM then? confused:
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: Darwins Selection on July 18, 2007, 10:02:40 PM
No, I did mean GPS. Global Positioning System or is it sattelite?

That's what they said to me on the blower anyway. I assume that's how it werks without wires or the need for a telephone. Bit like sat nav?
doh:

Was it the one from the "Early Learning Centre - Little Spiv Kit"  that bloke in the public bar was flogging last night?

Would you be interested in buy one of my 'Magic Turnip' franchises?

By the way, if you break a 'mirror site' you get 7 years bad luck. whistle:

Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: Barman on July 19, 2007, 04:37:46 AM
No, I did mean GPS. Global Positioning System or is it sattelite?

That's what they said to me on the blower anyway. I assume that's how it werks without wires or the need for a telephone. Bit like sat nav?
What's a GSM then? confused:
GPS (Global Positioning System) is a receive-only system that purely tells you where you are.

Your unit will effectively have a mobile ?phone in it so the technology will be GSM (Global System for Mobile communications) or GPRS (General Packet Radio Service).  ;)
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: GROWLER on July 19, 2007, 07:19:45 AM
No, I did mean GPS. Global Positioning System or is it sattelite?

That's what they said to me on the blower anyway. I assume that's how it werks without wires or the need for a telephone. Bit like sat nav?
What's a GSM then? confused:
GPS (Global Positioning System) is a receive-only system that purely tells you where you are.

Your unit will effectively have a mobile ?phone in it so the technology will be GSM (Global System for Mobile communications) or GPRS (General Packet Radio Service).  ;)

Yea, that's what I meant to say.
GPS was just a slip of the keyboard...a typo.

First page of the instruction manual says 'firstly you need a telephone' eeek:
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: Grumpmeister on July 19, 2007, 04:04:56 PM
No, I did mean GPS. Global Positioning System or is it sattelite?

That's what they said to me on the blower anyway. I assume that's how it werks without wires or the need for a telephone. Bit like sat nav?
What's a GSM then? confused:
GPS (Global Positioning System) is a receive-only system that purely tells you where you are.

Your unit will effectively have a mobile ?phone in it so the technology will be GSM (Global System for Mobile communications) or GPRS (General Packet Radio Service).  ;)

Not forgetting PCN or Public Cellular Networlk, an alternative protocol used by certain service providers.
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: Misunderstood on July 19, 2007, 11:02:02 PM
No, I did mean GPS. Global Positioning System or is it sattelite?

That's what they said to me on the blower anyway. I assume that's how it werks without wires or the need for a telephone. Bit like sat nav?
What's a GSM then? confused:
GPS (Global Positioning System) is a receive-only system that purely tells you where you are.

Your unit will effectively have a mobile ?phone in it so the technology will be GSM (Global System for Mobile communications) or GPRS (General Packet Radio Service).  ;)

Not forgetting PCN or Public Cellular Networlk, an alternative protocol used by certain service providers.

What's wrong with a GPS card system?

It's terribly important to know exactly where the machine is when you put your card into it.

In case it runs away with your card or you were not actually in the shop that you thought you were...

Shit like this happens....  best to be prepared ...  whistle:



Anyway, what's wrong with the POTS method?    rubschin:
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: Barman on July 20, 2007, 05:19:16 AM
No, I did mean GPS. Global Positioning System or is it sattelite?

That's what they said to me on the blower anyway. I assume that's how it werks without wires or the need for a telephone. Bit like sat nav?
What's a GSM then? confused:
GPS (Global Positioning System) is a receive-only system that purely tells you where you are.

Your unit will effectively have a mobile ?phone in it so the technology will be GSM (Global System for Mobile communications) or GPRS (General Packet Radio Service).  ;)

Not forgetting PCN or Public Cellular Networlk, an alternative protocol used by certain service providers.

What's wrong with a GPS card system?

It's terribly important to know exactly where the machine is when you put your card into it.

In case it runs away with your card or you were not actually in the shop that you thought you were...

Shit like this happens....  best to be prepared ...  whistle:



Anyway, what's wrong with the POTS method?    rubschin:
POTS...  noooo:
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: Snoopy on July 20, 2007, 09:10:50 AM
No, I did mean GPS. Global Positioning System or is it sattelite?

That's what they said to me on the blower anyway. I assume that's how it werks without wires or the need for a telephone. Bit like sat nav?
What's a GSM then? confused:
GPS (Global Positioning System) is a receive-only system that purely tells you where you are.

Your unit will effectively have a mobile ?phone in it so the technology will be GSM (Global System for Mobile communications) or GPRS (General Packet Radio Service).  ;)

Not forgetting PCN or Public Cellular Networlk, an alternative protocol used by certain service providers.

What's wrong with a GPS card system?

It's terribly important to know exactly where the machine is when you put your card into it.

In case it runs away with your card or you were not actually in the shop that you thought you were...

Shit like this happens....  best to be prepared ...  whistle:



Anyway, what's wrong with the POTS method?    rubschin:
POTS...  noooo:

You had to ask didn't you? whistle:
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: GROWLER on July 21, 2007, 07:37:36 PM
Been having a spot of trouble getting alterations/editing to show on my web site.
It does, eventually, but can take several hours sometimes, and very occassionally days.
 Loaded a new picture in the gallery this morning, and it's only just showed up now. confused:
Stupidly I'd already put this picture in the gallery, so it's a bit irrelevant now and will have to be deleted. ::)

I sent a ticket to the server, and they've replied stating that it will probably be because of my server.
Oh?
Really? whistle:

What's THAT all about then, and how do I 'fix' the server?

TBH, I'm not actually too sure what the server does...apart from serve up what I see on here I presume?
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: Misunderstood on July 21, 2007, 07:54:08 PM
POTS...  noooo:

You had to ask didn't you? whistle:

 ::)  Plain Old Telephone System.

Know by the trade as POTS
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: Misunderstood on July 21, 2007, 08:06:14 PM
Been having a spot of trouble getting alterations/editing to show on my web site.
It does, eventually, but can take several hours sometimes, and very occassionally days.
 Loaded a new picture in the gallery this morning, and it's only just showed up now. confused:
Stupidly I'd already put this picture in the gallery, so it's a bit irrelevant now and will have to be deleted. ::)

I sent a ticket to the server, and they've replied stating that it will probably be because of my server.
Oh?
Really? whistle:

What's THAT all about then, and how do I 'fix' the server?

TBH, I'm not actually too sure what the server does...apart from serve up what I see on here I presume?

Your connection to the internet is via your IP's server - that 'serves' the internet to you.   Your site host has a 'server' that stores your site and serves it on demand to anyone that asks - if it can.

That generates a lot of traffic in the internet for supplying servers dishing out the same old data time after time to the same people that keep looking at it (the owner for example) and the usual method to reduce frequently requested site information locally where you access it (and think you are looking at the live site).

Most of the time nobody notices and all's well but when you are looking for posted changes to appear the latency of a cached page becomes obvious, depending on the frequency of your local server's update of the live page you can spend minutes, hours or even days before you receive the updated site.

Sometimes, it can be your own fault by not clicking on 'Update' or 'Refresh' and end up continuing looking in vain at your own computer's cached image believing it to be live.
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: GROWLER on July 21, 2007, 11:25:31 PM
So in a nutshell, what do I do apart from clear my cache, which I've done with CCleaner, and lost all my passwords as a consequence...some retrieved, some not, YET? ::)
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: Misunderstood on July 21, 2007, 11:50:41 PM
So in a nutshell, what do I do apart from clear my cache, which I've done with CCleaner, and lost all my passwords as a consequence...some retrieved, some not, YET? ::)

Not much you can do really except for refreshing the page you are viewing in your browser.  Arguing with your IP about their update intervals is usually futile.

I have found accessing the site from another computer to be helpful as I know it will be taking a fresh look at it.

I don't know about IE but I use Firefox and it has a bolt-on that refreshes my pages automatically every minute, two minutes or 5 and so on to save me the bother,  but it's a bugger when trying to do this (write a thread) as it keeps renewing the page and erasing what I've written, you need to disable it or write very quickly...
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: Barman on July 22, 2007, 07:30:34 AM
So in a nutshell, what do I do apart from clear my cache, which I've done with CCleaner, and lost all my passwords as a consequence...some retrieved, some not, YET? ::)

Not much you can do really except for refreshing the page you are viewing in your browser.  Arguing with your IP about their update intervals is usually futile.

I have found accessing the site from another computer to be helpful as I know it will be taking a fresh look at it.

I don't know about IE but I use Firefox and it has a bolt-on that refreshes my pages automatically every minute, two minutes or 5 and so on to save me the bother,  but it's a bugger when trying to do this (write a thread) as it keeps renewing the page and erasing what I've written, you need to disable it or write very quickly...
What he says?

Another good way to get around the ?caching? (if that is indeed the problem) is to use a proxy ? if you go to http://anonymouse.org/anonwww.html you can get a completely ?fresh? look at your web site from an external perspective. it is also good for finding those little links to your hard drive that you can never spot?
 whistle:
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: GROWLER on July 22, 2007, 08:55:12 AM
Just tried that B/M, and it didn't seem to do much other than show an annoying pop up and oh, my entire gallery had disappeared too. eeek:
What exactly is supposed to happen? I wasn't expecting dancing bears or owt, but I was expecting something exciting and different. confused:
I feel somewhat disillusioned and let down now. cry:


Getting away from this aol crap may well help, yes?
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: Barman on July 22, 2007, 09:59:13 AM
Just tried that B/M, and it didn't seem to do much other than show an annoying pop up and oh, my entire gallery had disappeared too. eeek:
What exactly is supposed to happen? I wasn't expecting dancing bears or owt, but I was expecting something exciting and different. confused:
I feel somewhat disillusioned and let down now. cry:


Getting away from this aol crap may well help, yes?
If you use Anonymouse and type in your web address it should allow you to see it as others do ? i.e. it will not be using any files that are stored in your browser or on your PC.

It is actually a tool for hiding your IP address and location when you are surfing the ?tinterweb but I use it as described above.

I also get the annoying pop-up ads which go away if you actually buy it but I only use it rarely and haven?t bothered.

AOL does have some limitations I?m afraid although somebody on another site was swearing by it (not at it) the opther day providing you don?t use any of the AOL ?tools?.
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: GROWLER on July 22, 2007, 10:13:11 AM
Just tried that B/M, and it didn't seem to do much other than show an annoying pop up and oh, my entire gallery had disappeared too. eeek:
What exactly is supposed to happen? I wasn't expecting dancing bears or owt, but I was expecting something exciting and different. confused:
I feel somewhat disillusioned and let down now. cry:


Getting away from this aol crap may well help, yes?
If you use Anonymouse and type in your web address it should allow you to see it as others do ? i.e. it will not be using any files that are stored in your browser or on your PC.

It is actually a tool for hiding your IP address and location when you are surfing the ?tinterweb but I use it as described above.

I also get the annoying pop-up ads which go away if you actually buy it but I only use it rarely and haven?t bothered.

AOL does have some limitations I?m afraid although somebody on another site was swearing by it (not at it) the opther day providing you don?t use any of the AOL ?tools?.

So, in essence, what you are saying is that my bloody gallery is not on show to anyone but me?! eeek:
Greeeeeat. evil:

Have considered getting out of aohell, but quite a few have warned me to expect major problems completely getting away from them, all their software being buried in here now apparently, and extremely difficult to eradicate completely.
They aren't too bad in many ways, and i am used to the layout which I find user friendly and easy to navigate my way around.
As an example of their quirkiness though, look at the trouble me and Degsy had getting in here....no authorisation emails received for aol users.
 What's THAT all about then? sex014
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: Barman on July 22, 2007, 10:25:42 AM
Just tried that B/M, and it didn't seem to do much other than show an annoying pop up and oh, my entire gallery had disappeared too. eeek:
What exactly is supposed to happen? I wasn't expecting dancing bears or owt, but I was expecting something exciting and different. confused:
I feel somewhat disillusioned and let down now. cry:


Getting away from this aol crap may well help, yes?
If you use Anonymouse and type in your web address it should allow you to see it as others do ? i.e. it will not be using any files that are stored in your browser or on your PC.

It is actually a tool for hiding your IP address and location when you are surfing the ?tinterweb but I use it as described above.

I also get the annoying pop-up ads which go away if you actually buy it but I only use it rarely and haven?t bothered.

AOL does have some limitations I?m afraid although somebody on another site was swearing by it (not at it) the opther day providing you don?t use any of the AOL ?tools?.

So, in essence, what you are saying is that my bloody gallery is not on show to anyone but me?! eeek:
Greeeeeat. evil:

Have considered getting out of aohell, but quite a few have warned me to expect major problems completely getting away from them, all their software being buried in here now apparently, and extremely difficult to eradicate completely.
They aren't too bad in many ways, and i am used to the layout which I find user friendly and easy to navigate my way around.
As an example of their quirkiness though, look at the trouble me and Degsy had getting in here....no authorisation emails received for aol users.
 What's THAT all about then? sex014
The gallery looks fine to me but then I checked it the other day so it could be resident in my browser cache or firewall?
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: Snoopy on July 22, 2007, 10:32:57 AM
Just tried that B/M, and it didn't seem to do much other than show an annoying pop up and oh, my entire gallery had disappeared too. eeek:
What exactly is supposed to happen? I wasn't expecting dancing bears or owt, but I was expecting something exciting and different. confused:
I feel somewhat disillusioned and let down now. cry:


Getting away from this aol crap may well help, yes?
If you use Anonymouse and type in your web address it should allow you to see it as others do ? i.e. it will not be using any files that are stored in your browser or on your PC.

It is actually a tool for hiding your IP address and location when you are surfing the ?tinterweb but I use it as described above.

I also get the annoying pop-up ads which go away if you actually buy it but I only use it rarely and haven?t bothered.

AOL does have some limitations I?m afraid although somebody on another site was swearing by it (not at it) the opther day providing you don?t use any of the AOL ?tools?.

So, in essence, what you are saying is that my bloody gallery is not on show to anyone but me?! eeek:
Greeeeeat. evil:

Have considered getting out of aohell, but quite a few have warned me to expect major problems completely getting away from them, all their software being buried in here now apparently, and extremely difficult to eradicate completely.
They aren't too bad in many ways, and i am used to the layout which I find user friendly and easy to navigate my way around.
As an example of their quirkiness though, look at the trouble me and Degsy had getting in here....no authorisation emails received for aol users.
 What's THAT all about then? sex014
The gallery looks fine to me but then I checked it the other day so it could be resident in my browser cache or firewall?

I too have had a look using my lap-top instead of the PC. this is the first time the Lap-top has seen the site and it looks fine.
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: Barman on July 22, 2007, 10:36:49 AM
Bingo!

The technical support department works it?s magic again!
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: GROWLER on July 22, 2007, 10:41:00 AM
Well that leads me nicely into a little problem I've discovered.

You try saving it into your favourites and see what comes up.
Well here instead of showing the web address, it says 'About us'
If I tap in the first 3 words into google,it's there, great, BUT  it comes up welcome page followed by my email address rather than the title of my web site. crash:
I don't know what I've done wrong tbh., but I obviously have done something.
Tried renaming the welcome page to the web name, but to no avail.  sad32:
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: Barman on July 22, 2007, 10:48:54 AM
Well that leads me nicely into a little problem I've discovered.

You try saving it into your favourites and see what comes up.
Well here instead of showing the web address, it says 'About us'
If I tap in the first 3 words into google,it's there, great, BUT  it comes up welcome page followed by my email address rather than the title of my web site. crash:
I don't know what I've done wrong tbh., but I obviously have done something.
Tried renaming the welcome page to the web name, but to no avail.  sad32:
Its not the page name ? it?s in the page properties?
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: GROWLER on July 22, 2007, 10:56:39 AM
Well that leads me nicely into a little problem I've discovered.

You try saving it into your favourites and see what comes up.
Well here instead of showing the web address, it says 'About us'
If I tap in the first 3 words into google,it's there, great, BUT  it comes up welcome page followed by my email address rather than the title of my web site. crash:
I don't know what I've done wrong tbh., but I obviously have done something.
Tried renaming the welcome page to the web name, but to no avail.  sad32:
Its not the page name ? it?s in the page properties?

Meaning? How do I change the properties then?
I'll have a look later and see if I can tweak it.
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: Barman on July 22, 2007, 10:58:32 AM
Well that leads me nicely into a little problem I've discovered.

You try saving it into your favourites and see what comes up.
Well here instead of showing the web address, it says 'About us'
If I tap in the first 3 words into google,it's there, great, BUT  it comes up welcome page followed by my email address rather than the title of my web site. crash:
I don't know what I've done wrong tbh., but I obviously have done something.
Tried renaming the welcome page to the web name, but to no avail.  sad32:
Its not the page name ? it?s in the page properties?

Meaning? How do I change the properties then?
I'll have a look later and see if I can tweak it.
In FrontPage you right-click on the page in the listing and select properties. There is a page title there that provides the information I beleive...
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: GROWLER on July 22, 2007, 09:46:17 PM
Found the properties ok by right clickin'
Now what do I do? Doesn't seem to offer any options tbh. ::)
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: Barman on July 23, 2007, 05:39:52 AM
Found the properties ok by right clickin'
Now what do I do? Doesn't seem to offer any options tbh. ::)
I dunno...  shrugs:

In FrontPage there is a 'Title' box which holds the info you need to change...
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: GROWLER on July 30, 2007, 09:19:33 AM
Slightly updated with extra info about ME, whistle:  and some of the dreaded piccies. ;)
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: Darwins Selection on July 30, 2007, 09:33:38 AM
Slightly updated with extra info about ME, whistle:  and some of the dreaded piccies. ;)
VERY SUBTLE SIGNWRITING
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: GROWLER on July 30, 2007, 09:36:58 AM
Slightly updated with extra info about ME, whistle:  and some of the dreaded piccies. ;)
VERY SUBTLE SIGNWRITING

yes indeed redface:
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: GROWLER on July 30, 2007, 09:41:47 AM
I've decided to go down the paypal route for now, rather than commit myself to a 2 or 3 year contract with a credit card machine......just until I can see that this is in demand.....but I can't quite fathom out how to set the page up properly as you can see.
How do I actually get the 'pay now' details up onto the page? Is it something I have to download off paypal to my web site?
Yes, before you ask, I HAVE signed up with them.
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: GROWLER on August 11, 2007, 11:24:41 PM
How do I go about getting my website up the Google rankings, preferably onto the first page.
I've added all the 'keywords' for the spiders to pick up via the free facility provided by my hosting company, but I still can't find any reference on the first 10 pages.
If I have to buy this facility, how do i go about it, and how much does it cost? rubschin:
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: Misunderstood on August 12, 2007, 06:10:26 AM
How do I go about getting my website up the Google rankings, preferably onto the first page.
I've added all the 'keywords' for the spiders to pick up via the free facility provided by my hosting company, but I still can't find any reference on the first 10 pages.
If I have to buy this facility, how do i go about it, and how much does it cost? rubschin:

Ha Ha!  Buy it!  I like that...

Seriously, usage does it. the more hits the site receives, the higher up the rankings the site goes.  Another way is links, get everyone you know with a website to carry a link to your place, the spiders will pick up the references and the chances of getting hits improve out of sheer curiosity.

It's a question of the cart following the horse as popularity will increase the rankings but it will always be trailing behind reflecting the popularity never causing it.

To advertise (paid rankings) depends on the competition but it has been known to bite into the millions.  Furthermore it starts wars.

What you need is hits.  Plain and simple.  Some kiddies comps would help... short term special offers regularly posted... Random prizes, like first person whose birthday is on.. Uh say.. Saturday with a name starting with D or whose number plate contains a N and adds up to 7.  You get the picture... to encourage people to check in on a regular basis to see what's going on.   Questions and Answers.  A Forum even  eeek:  Get their attention and keep it going.

I'll start by making your site my default page which will give you a hit every time I log on (invoice in the post  ;)  )

From experience, it usually takes about two or three years to get to be high profile.
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: GROWLER on August 12, 2007, 08:29:55 AM
Thanks BIG B. ;)

My thieving accountant paid someone to get his web site onto the first page of Google apparently....over a hundred quid a month. eeek:
Mere loose change in his ashtray though I suppose. evil:
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: Snoopy on August 12, 2007, 09:09:25 AM
Thanks BIG B. ;)

My thieving accountant paid someone to get his web site onto the first page of Google apparently....over a hundred quid a month. eeek:
Mere loose change in his ashtray though I suppose. evil:

Everything has a price ~ whether it is worth paying is the question. No new business should throw money at unproven advertising. Articles written and submitted as a "PRESS RELEASE" to local newspapers will get you plenty of free publicity ~ well free in the sense that you will have to write it and pay for the stamp/fax (Faxed adds more excitement to it in the "Newsroom"). All editors are desperate to fill their pages every week and will be only too happy to have a local new business/success story.  Be sure not to tell them too much or they will edit it out and make sure referrals to your website are highly visible. This will increase your hit rate and thus your rating with the search engines.

Make sure all the Councils, both Town and County in your area have a link to your website on the Tourism sections of their sites. They will be only too happy to do this free of charge ~ you only have to ask. Remember that having a website is not the be all and end all. Less that 10% of people planning a day out will ever think to look at the internet ~ after all less than 50% of households have access to the internet anyway ~ despite what the "Geeks Trade" claim. Where do I get my figures? ~ well I asked the population of this village, when we set up our site. I trust my own research far more than those whose business it is to sell the internet.
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: GROWLER on August 12, 2007, 09:33:54 AM
Thanks BIG B. ;)



Less that 10% of people planning a day out will ever think to look at the internet ~ after all less than 50% of households have access to the internet anyway ~

Both of those statistics suprised me tbh.

Internet is the first place I look for just about anything now, and i thought that was a trend followed by the majority rather than the minority tbh. eeek:

I would say that less than 10% of people I know, HAVEN'T got a 'puter AND connected to the internet
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: Snoopy on August 12, 2007, 12:02:47 PM
Then you don't live in a village of 2400 people in North Wales.  lol:

The village website, which covers everything about this village including where to eat/drink, what to visit, ALL business telephone numbers and addresses (grouped by category), Info about schools, churches, attractions, events etc gets fewer than 1000 hits a year and over 50% of those do not last more than 20 seconds. Remember that this is an historic village, in a known holiday destination, through which thousands of vehicles bearing holiday makers/weekenders etc  drive every week. We are two miles from miles of sandy beaches, within 25 minutes of Snowdonia and 30 Minutes from Anglesey. There is a large Night Club and leisure centre here plus four pubs and of course our famous waterfalls. The village is mentioned in the Domesday Book and the castle was captured from the English by the Welsh. The Bible was translated into Welsh in this village. You would honestly think that perhaps a few more people might have a look at us.
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: GROWLER on August 12, 2007, 12:26:28 PM
Then you don't live in a village of 2400 people in North Wales.  lol:

The village website, which covers everything about this village including where to eat/drink, what to visit, ALL business telephone numbers and addresses (grouped by category), Info about schools, churches, attractions, events etc gets fewer than 1000 hits a year and over 50% of those do not last more than 20 seconds. Remember that this is an historic village, in a known holiday destination, through which thousands of vehicles bearing holiday makers/weekenders etc  drive every week. We are two miles from miles of sandy beaches, within 25 minutes of Snowdonia and 30 Minutes from Anglesey. There is a large Night Club and leisure centre here plus four pubs and of course our famous waterfalls. The village is mentioned in the Domesday Book and the castle was captured from the English by the Welsh. The Bible was translated into Welsh in this village. You would honestly think that perhaps a few more people might have a look at us.


OK, OK, you've convinced me. ::)
 A sight seeing day trip for the GROWLER family is now on the agenda before the little darlings go back to school.
Didn't know you had waterfalls out there.
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: Snoopy on August 12, 2007, 12:48:25 PM
(https://www.virtual-pub.com/SMF/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.rhylphotosoc.co.uk%2FGALLERIES%2Fdigital%2FDyserth%2Fimages%2F01-04.jpg&hash=7c3829ba7f01aa472342d297013a3d9f94812968)

Only 20 pence to get in, free car park (next to the church) two good pubs. Red Lion opposite if you just want a pint or two or 50 yards away the New Inn which is a bit "Foody" and there is a Tearooms/ice cream shop at the entrance to the falls. Depends on how much rain in the days before your visit but it can be very spectacular.
You can take the steps to the top if you wish but once up there it is not fenced and it is a 60 foot drop so do keep hold of Mrs Growler  evil:

(https://www.virtual-pub.com/SMF/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fhpbimg.onthebusesfanclub.co.uk%2Fwaterfallshop2.jpg&hash=88a625559fcc5d7f61866c2540cd07d13b76fc9c)

Ice Creams/Tea etc at the entrance to the Falls.
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: GROWLER on August 12, 2007, 12:51:46 PM
(https://www.virtual-pub.com/SMF/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.rhylphotosoc.co.uk%2FGALLERIES%2Fdigital%2FDyserth%2Fimages%2F01-04.jpg&hash=7c3829ba7f01aa472342d297013a3d9f94812968)


You can take the steps to the top if you wish but once up there it is not fenced and it is a 60 foot drop so do keep hold of Mrs Growler  evil:

I have a plan. rubschin:


NO! eveilgrin:
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: Snoopy on August 12, 2007, 12:53:08 PM
I won't tell ~ Promise. whistle:
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: GROWLER on August 31, 2007, 09:19:33 PM
Just added a map to me site, but the address looks very long and untidy on the site.
How do you change it to a simple 'click here' for map? rubschin:
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: Barman on September 01, 2007, 05:50:39 AM
Just added a map to me site, but the address looks very long and untidy on the site.
How do you change it to a simple 'click here' for map? rubschin:
Add a 'Hyperlink' with the map address in it...
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: GROWLER on September 01, 2007, 09:15:18 AM
Just added a map to me site, but the address looks very long and untidy on the site.
How do you change it to a simple 'click here' for map? rubschin:
Add a 'Hyperlink' with the map address in it...

Yea....right. rubschin:
Right clicked, checked all the symbols on the edit page, and can't find the facility to do that.
I'm obviously doing something incorrectly, or should I say, I'm NOT doing summat right.
What? crash:
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: Nick on September 01, 2007, 09:32:13 AM
Try this?

http://www.geocities.com/adilbookz/Utilities/tinyurlcode.html (http://www.geocities.com/adilbookz/Utilities/tinyurlcode.html)
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: GROWLER on September 01, 2007, 08:06:00 PM
Try this?

http://www.geocities.com/adilbookz/Utilities/tinyurlcode.html (http://www.geocities.com/adilbookz/Utilities/tinyurlcode.html)

Did it and now it doesn't werk. evil: crash:
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: Snoopy on September 02, 2007, 10:14:36 AM
Try this?

http://www.geocities.com/adilbookz/Utilities/tinyurlcode.html (http://www.geocities.com/adilbookz/Utilities/tinyurlcode.html)

Did it and now it doesn't werk. evil: crash:

That is because you haven't put the tiny url link in properly. It needs http:// which you have got THEN www. which you have omitted.
I think if you go back into it and make the link read http://www.tinyurl.com and then add the magic numbers supplied by Tiny you will get what you want.
I have just used the address your link shows and inserted the www. bit and it works perfectly.
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: Nick on September 02, 2007, 10:18:32 AM
What he said
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: Barman on September 02, 2007, 12:01:11 PM
What he said
http://seconded  ;)
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: Misunderstood on September 02, 2007, 01:43:42 PM
Yeah!
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: Snoopy on September 02, 2007, 01:59:33 PM
I spoke to the Bear this morning via his mobile (He's having a day out) and he is going to insert the www when he gets home.
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: Bar Wench on September 03, 2007, 09:02:20 AM
(https://www.virtual-pub.com/SMF/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.rhylphotosoc.co.uk%2FGALLERIES%2Fdigital%2FDyserth%2Fimages%2F01-04.jpg&hash=7c3829ba7f01aa472342d297013a3d9f94812968)

Only 20 pence to get in, free car park (next to the church) two good pubs. Red Lion opposite if you just want a pint or two or 50 yards away the New Inn which is a bit "Foody" and there is a Tearooms/ice cream shop at the entrance to the falls. Depends on how much rain in the days before your visit but it can be very spectacular.
You can take the steps to the top if you wish but once up there it is not fenced and it is a 60 foot drop so do keep hold of Mrs Growler  evil:

(https://www.virtual-pub.com/SMF/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fhpbimg.onthebusesfanclub.co.uk%2Fwaterfallshop2.jpg&hash=88a625559fcc5d7f61866c2540cd07d13b76fc9c)

Ice Creams/Tea etc at the entrance to the Falls.

Somewhere in Wales worth visiting!  eeek:
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: Snoopy on September 03, 2007, 09:36:14 AM
(https://www.virtual-pub.com/SMF/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.rhylphotosoc.co.uk%2FGALLERIES%2Fdigital%2FDyserth%2Fimages%2F01-04.jpg&hash=7c3829ba7f01aa472342d297013a3d9f94812968)

Only 20 pence to get in, free car park (next to the church) two good pubs. Red Lion opposite if you just want a pint or two or 50 yards away the New Inn which is a bit "Foody" and there is a Tearooms/ice cream shop at the entrance to the falls. Depends on how much rain in the days before your visit but it can be very spectacular.
You can take the steps to the top if you wish but once up there it is not fenced and it is a 60 foot drop so do keep hold of Mrs Growler  evil:

(https://www.virtual-pub.com/SMF/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fhpbimg.onthebusesfanclub.co.uk%2Fwaterfallshop2.jpg&hash=88a625559fcc5d7f61866c2540cd07d13b76fc9c)

Ice Creams/Tea etc at the entrance to the Falls.

Somewhere in Wales worth visiting!  eeek:

 rubschin: I wouldn't go that far!
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: GROWLER on September 03, 2007, 06:26:23 PM
Briefly dropped in to your 'city' on the way to Canarvon  lol: last week Snoops, to ogle at the waterfall. eeek:

Where TF are the signposts for it ey, or is it for residents secret viewing only? ::)
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: Snoopy on September 03, 2007, 07:12:44 PM
Briefly dropped in to your 'city' on the way to Canarvon  lol: last week Snoops, to ogle at the waterfall. eeek:

Where TF are the signposts for it ey, or is it for residents secret viewing only? ::)

Exit A55 at Junction 31. Take third exit from roundabout onto A5151 signed for Prestatyn. At next roundabout take first exit signed for Dyserth You are still on A5151. Stay on that road through Trelawnyd and onto Dyserth. Once in Dyserth the A5151 becomes the High Street. Pass my house on the right the chip shop and other shops on the left. As you go down the hill out of the village you come to a crossroads where there is a Pub called the Cross Keys on your left. Turn right at these crossroads (Following in fact the sign that says WATERFALL) and descend a steep and winding hill called WATERFALL ROAD. At the bottom of the hill you will see a Pub called the Red Lion. Opposite the Red Lion there is a narrow entrance to a small car park. There is a big sign that says WATERFALL Park there and walk 50 yards back to the road and you will see the waterfalls. You can pay your 20p at the WATERFALL SHOP  and enter the Waterfall Gardens and explore to your heart's content.
By the way the Welsh for Waterfall is Rhayader or Rhaeadr (It seems to depend on the sign writer but Welsh is like that) and some of the signs say that as well.
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: GROWLER on September 03, 2007, 07:26:49 PM
Briefly dropped in to your 'city' on the way to Canarvon  lol: last week Snoops, to ogle at the waterfall. eeek:

Where TF are the signposts for it ey, or is it for residents secret viewing only? ::)

Exit A55 at Junction 31. Take third exit from roundabout onto A5151 signed for Prestatyn. At next roundabout take first exit signed for Dyserth You are still on A5151. Stay on that road through Trelawnyd and onto Dyserth. Once in Dyserth the A5151 becomes the High Street. Pass my house on the right the chip shop and other shops on the left. As you go down the hill out of the village you come to a crossroads where there is a Pub called the Cross Keys on your left. Turn right at these crossroads (Following in fact the sign that says WATERFALL) and descend a steep and winding hill called WATERFALL ROAD. At the bottom of the hill you will see a Pub called the Red Lion. Opposite the Red Lion there is a narrow entrance to a small car park. There is a big sign that says WATERFALL Park there and walk 50 yards back to the road and you will see the waterfalls. You can pay your 20p at the WATERFALL SHOP  and enter the Waterfall Gardens and explore to your heart's content.
By the way the Welsh for Waterfall is Rhayader or Rhaeadr (It seems to depend on the sign writer but Welsh is like that) and some of the signs say that as well.


Oh.......................right. redface:
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: Nick on September 03, 2007, 07:43:36 PM
They trick you in Wales, don't trust him
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: Misunderstood on September 04, 2007, 11:28:46 AM
Why is this thread now about welsh waterfalls?   evil:
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: Snoopy on September 04, 2007, 11:35:10 AM
Why is this thread now about welsh waterfalls?   evil:

 shrugs: Dunno ~ Maybe summat I said. Sorry  redface:
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: Grumpmeister on September 04, 2007, 12:20:31 PM
Why is this thread now about welsh waterfalls?   evil:

Its the Nick effect, similar to entering the Twilight Zone  scared2:
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: Nick on September 04, 2007, 07:57:16 PM
 evil:
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: Darwins Selection on September 05, 2007, 03:00:25 PM
. . . the Twilight Zone
(https://www.virtual-pub.com/SMF/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.thedrinkshop.com%2Fimages%2Fproducts%2Fmain%2F1626%2F1626.jpg&hash=e56d89255d8afa0a0a33280d21eb1fc5069eb4db)
 sick2: sick2: sick2: sick2:
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: GROWLER on September 17, 2007, 10:02:15 PM
Can I summon up the help of those that have access to my website please?
I've done a bit of editing over the last week, and it's not showing from here. rubschin:
Been in touch with mine host, and they tell me that they can now see 2 pages of piccies, 15 on the first page, and 2 on the second.
Only 14 showing here. ::)
Also, my new and dedicated mobile number should now be showing directly under the first line of text on the home page.

None of this is showing from here, nearly a week after editing on this heap of electrical crap. sex014

Can you lot confirm the edits are showing your end please?

Mine host reckons it's a 'browser cache' problem. I presume this is another description for 'my history' on here. rubschin:
 Very strange as I've set it to clear every time I switch off, but did it manually again tonight anyway.

Any ideas and suggestions as to what else it could be that's delaying the edits from showing from this end?



edit. Bloody typical. Just checked my site, and the photos have now uploaded. Taken 9 bloody days to finally reach her though. The text is still not showing though.
Suggestions please.
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: Barman on September 18, 2007, 05:15:06 AM
I can see both the phone number and all the pictures - 16 on the first page and 2 on the second...
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: Uncle Mort on September 18, 2007, 07:44:01 AM
I can see both the phone number and all the pictures - 16 on the first page and 2 on the second...

Same here Growler.
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: Snoopy on September 18, 2007, 10:13:33 AM
All working at my end. happy088
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: Bar Wench on September 18, 2007, 10:23:28 AM
I don't have the address so can't check. But when you do look at the pages have you tried doing a forced refresh? ctrl+F5

Sorry if this is an obvious already tried option.
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: Snoopy on September 18, 2007, 10:37:11 AM
That sounds about as safe as poking a dead badger. scared2:
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: Nick on September 18, 2007, 11:25:16 AM
I will take a peek later.
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: Misunderstood on September 18, 2007, 11:44:23 AM
I see eighteen pictures (16 + 2) and a mobile phone number.

NOTE:  Personal opinion only.

Front page looks a little text heavy to me - how about a header picture or - maybe better - a pictorial watermark behind all the text?
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: Bar Wench on September 18, 2007, 12:17:37 PM
I WANT TO SEE!!!!  sad24:
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: Misunderstood on September 18, 2007, 12:52:50 PM
I WANT TO SEE!!!!  sad24:

The address is posted in the secret boys room.... OooH Err!  I've said too much  eeek:
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: Snoopy on September 18, 2007, 12:55:49 PM
I WANT TO SEE!!!!  sad24:

The address is posted in the secret boys room.... OooH Err!  I've said too much  eeek:


I've sworn her to secrecy and PMd her the address ~ if we can't trust Wenchy then we have no hope.
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: Bar Wench on September 18, 2007, 01:03:05 PM
I have the address  point:
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: Nick on September 18, 2007, 01:09:11 PM
And therefore you have seen the Swamp! scared2:
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: Bar Wench on September 18, 2007, 01:29:42 PM
And therefore you have seen the Swamp! scared2:

I have!  eeek: Looks wicked!  ;D
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: Misunderstood on September 18, 2007, 01:45:52 PM
I WANT TO SEE!!!!  sad24:

The address is posted in the secret boys room.... OooH Err!  I've said too much  eeek:


I've sworn her to secrecy and PMd her the address ~ if we can't trust Wenchy then we have no hope.

Expecting a wumman to keep a secret is like expecting to win the lottery.   It DOES happen.....  confused:
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: Snoopy on September 18, 2007, 01:47:59 PM
I know but this is Wenchy and she is no ordinary wummun.
She's sort of "One of the lads" really.





Oh God I hope that doesn't offend her ~ she's bloody lethal with that rolled newspaper and my nose is getting sore.
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: Bar Wench on September 18, 2007, 02:02:49 PM
Not at all. That has always been a common statement.
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: Snoopy on September 18, 2007, 02:11:27 PM
Not at all. That has always been a common statement.


Phew!


It was a sort of compliment. Glad you didn't mind.


See you in the showers after the game then. eyes:
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: Bar Wench on September 18, 2007, 02:11:55 PM
 Banghead
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: Snoopy on September 18, 2007, 02:15:03 PM
Banghead

I promise you Wench ~ If you saw me in the shower you would  point: happy001 point:
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: GROWLER on September 18, 2007, 06:38:09 PM
I know but this is Wenchy and she is no ordinary wummun.
She's sort of "One of the lads" really.





Oh God I hope that doesn't offend her ~ she's bloody lethal with that rolled newspaper and my nose is getting sore.

Talkin' of which. WHERE is the man of the house, whos' visit was promised in here ey? rubschin:

Thanks for the wonderful response everyone. happy088

I contacted the host, and I got an admission of guilt off them.
It seems I wasn't alone after all that, and they admitted that they were having problems with the editing facility but were 'on the case'.
It seems ok tonight and have just done some more editing with more to come via GROWLER jnr after taking Snoops suggestion on board.

Cheers everyone. cloud9:
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: Nick on September 18, 2007, 07:26:34 PM
She is always up for a bumpy ride, I am told!
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: GROWLER on September 18, 2007, 10:29:15 PM
Ey Wenchy, that pressing of the F5 button werks! eeek:
Learn summat every day in 'ere.

What do all these other F....in' buttons do then? rubschin:

Come to think of it, what apart from the alaphabet ones, do any of the others do?
Never had the urge or knowledge of what to expect to press them tbh.


I now notice that my 'hit counter' has gone down from 738 to 52! eeek:

I think BM has been doin' some more secret number fiddlin'. rubschin:
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: Barman on September 19, 2007, 04:50:28 AM
Ey Wenchy, that pressing of the F5 button werks! eeek:
Learn summat every day in 'ere.

What do all these other F....in' buttons do then? rubschin:

Come to think of it, what apart from the alaphabet ones, do any of the others do?
Never had the urge or knowledge of what to expect to press them tbh.


I now notice that my 'hit counter' has gone down from 738 to 52! eeek:

I think BM has been doin' some more secret number fiddlin'. rubschin:
whistle:
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: Bar Wench on September 19, 2007, 08:11:57 AM
Ey Wenchy, that pressing of the F5 button werks! eeek:
Learn summat every day in 'ere.

What do all these other F....in' buttons do then? rubschin:


It makes the computer pick up changes rather than just viewing the page as it remembers. I use it because when I build web pages it sometimes doesn't recognise that I want it to look at the web rather than my hard drive for links/images etc. So it can come in handy.

As for what the others do ...  shrugs: I only know what I've been told. The others for me are basically functions that relate to particular programmes, what they do in general I don't have a clue!
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: Bar Wench on September 19, 2007, 08:12:40 AM
Oh, as for Mr Wench, I informed him of your desire to meet him and then it is up to him. I'm not going to drag him here kicking and screaming ...  rubschin:
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: Nick on September 19, 2007, 08:14:22 AM
He gets dragged kicking and screaming to too many places I assume.
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: GROWLER on November 02, 2007, 02:12:51 PM
My web site has just reached 1000 hits! Whuhey! cloud9:

I'll get the ale in...on a tab of course. eastdrink048


Got 2 cussies this sunday, two more in a fortnight, and 15 on crimbo eve! eeek:

I'll get the ale in at the ale house down the road from 'The Swamp' at approx 4:00pm on the 24/12 if any ones passing like.  ;)
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: Nick on November 02, 2007, 02:14:08 PM
The drinks are on you! spider:
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: GROWLER on November 02, 2007, 02:15:17 PM
The drinks are on you! spider:

I know. I just said so you bearded gruff old duffer. ::)

In'it a bloody shame I can't put my web site addy in my signature ey?

I trust you regulars, but...........

.....can you just imagine the 'fun' some 'friendly folk'/guests in here from places unmentionable would have if they gained access to it? ::)
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: Bar Wench on November 02, 2007, 02:31:51 PM
Congratulations!!!!
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: GROWLER on November 02, 2007, 02:36:39 PM
Thank you. It's been worth the effort so far.

Have an applaud on me, but make the most of it, cus it's bound not to last. lol:
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: Bar Wench on November 02, 2007, 02:38:56 PM
I don't know what I've done to have such bad karma. I'm a polite and pleasant young lady. You'd think you would all be glad to have me around rather than smiting me.  sad24:
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: TG on November 02, 2007, 02:57:28 PM
I don't know what I've done to have such bad karma. I'm a polite and pleasant young lady. You'd think you would all be glad to have me around rather than smiting me.  sad24:

Its just because you are a figure of authority vis-a-vis admin stuff on this board. You are in everybodies sights cos your name appears in red at the bottom of the page. Simple as that really innit.

Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: Darwins Selection on November 02, 2007, 03:27:43 PM
I don't know what I've done to have such bad karma. I'm a polite and pleasant young lady. You'd think you would all be glad to have me around rather than smiting me.  sad24:

Its just because you are a figure of authority vis-a-vis admin stuff on this board. You are in everybodies sights cos your name appears in red at the bottom of the page. Simple as that really innit.

What he said.

If you want to be a prefect, expect to get your pigtails pulled sometimes. whistle:



Well done on the website Growler me lad!

Xmas eve bookings, they must be mad. noooo:
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: Bar Wench on November 02, 2007, 03:36:13 PM
I don't know what I've done to have such bad karma. I'm a polite and pleasant young lady. You'd think you would all be glad to have me around rather than smiting me.  sad24:

Its just because you are a figure of authority vis-a-vis admin stuff on this board. You are in everybodies sights cos your name appears in red at the bottom of the page. Simple as that really innit.

What he said.

If you want to be a prefect, expect to get your pigtails pulled sometimes. whistle:



Well done on the website Growler me lad!

Xmas eve bookings, they must be mad. noooo:

Thinking about it, I don't really remember being asked.  eeek: rubschin: eeek:

Prefect? Please, I was head girl I'll have you know!  cloud9:
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: tel on November 02, 2007, 03:38:35 PM
I don't know what I've done to have such bad karma. I'm a polite and pleasant young lady. You'd think you would all be glad to have me around rather than smiting me.  sad24:

Its just because you are a figure of authority vis-a-vis admin stuff on this board. You are in everybodies sights cos your name appears in red at the bottom of the page. Simple as that really innit.

What he said.

If you want to be a prefect, expect to get your pigtails pulled sometimes. whistle:



Well done on the website Growler me lad!

Xmas eve bookings, they must be mad. noooo:

Thinking about it, I don't really remember being asked.  eeek: rubschin: eeek:

Prefect? Please, I was head girl I'll have you know!  cloud9:

As in giving?

(Sorry DS)
(and nearly 900 posts!)
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: Darwins Selection on November 02, 2007, 04:27:49 PM
I don't know what I've done to have such bad karma. I'm a polite and pleasant young lady. You'd think you would all be glad to have me around rather than smiting me.  sad24:

Its just because you are a figure of authority vis-a-vis admin stuff on this board. You are in everybodies sights cos your name appears in red at the bottom of the page. Simple as that really innit.

What he said.

If you want to be a prefect, expect to get your pigtails pulled sometimes. whistle:



Well done on the website Growler me lad!

Xmas eve bookings, they must be mad. noooo:

Thinking about it, I don't really remember being asked.  eeek: rubschin: eeek:

Prefect? Please, I was head girl I'll have you know!  cloud9:

As in giving?

(Sorry DS)
(and nearly 900 posts!)
happ096

Wench was Head Girl!

That is very hard to swallow.
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: Bar Wench on November 02, 2007, 04:30:23 PM
I don't know what I've done to have such bad karma. I'm a polite and pleasant young lady. You'd think you would all be glad to have me around rather than smiting me.  sad24:

Its just because you are a figure of authority vis-a-vis admin stuff on this board. You are in everybodies sights cos your name appears in red at the bottom of the page. Simple as that really innit.

What he said.

If you want to be a prefect, expect to get your pigtails pulled sometimes. whistle:



Well done on the website Growler me lad!

Xmas eve bookings, they must be mad. noooo:

Thinking about it, I don't really remember being asked.  eeek: rubschin: eeek:

Prefect? Please, I was head girl I'll have you know!  cloud9:

As in giving?

(Sorry DS)
(and nearly 900 posts!)

 sick2:
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: GROWLER on November 02, 2007, 05:32:43 PM
I don't know what I've done to have such bad karma. I'm a polite and pleasant young lady. You'd think you would all be glad to have me around rather than smiting me.  sad24:

Its just because you are a figure of authority vis-a-vis admin stuff on this board. You are in everybodies sights cos your name appears in red at the bottom of the page. Simple as that really innit.

What he said.

If you want to be a prefect, expect to get your pigtails pulled sometimes. whistle:



Well done on the website Growler me lad!

Xmas eve bookings, they must be mad. noooo:

Thinking about it, I don't really remember being asked.  eeek: rubschin: eeek:

Prefect? Please, I was head girl I'll have you know!  cloud9:

As in giving?

(Sorry DS)
(and nearly 900 posts!)

 sick2:

And you're not even married yet either. ::)

WHAT has a man got to do ey? ::)

I've un-smited you anyway, to put you back to where you where 3 hours ago. OK?
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: GROWLER on November 02, 2007, 05:39:26 PM
Xmas eve bookings, they must be mad. noooo:

No. I am, but there's method in me madness
In reality, it's going to give me a good excuse to keep out of GROWLER towers were there will no doubt be all the usual crimboey holly jolly spirits in full swing sick2:, and an absolute cast iron fool proof excuse to go to the ale 'ouse and get meself bladdered. eastdrink048
Lafin'! lol:
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: Marley's Ghost (Imbiber of Spirits) on November 02, 2007, 05:59:33 PM
Congratulations!!!!

In the spirit of Wenchie's post, I give you:

 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ba6Vs6aLY6I)
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: GROWLER on November 02, 2007, 06:12:58 PM
Thanks MG. I get the drift even if this electonic heap of shite no longer seems capable of viewing MOST You Tube clips. crash:
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: Marley's Ghost (Imbiber of Spirits) on November 02, 2007, 06:28:04 PM
Thanks MG. I get the drift even if this electonic heap of shite no longer seems capable of viewing MOST You Tube clips. crash:

That's OK Big G - I just thought that as Wenchy had managed to pass the earworm to me, I'd share it round like.
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: TG on November 02, 2007, 07:14:15 PM
Congratulations!!!!

In the spirit of Wenchie's post, I give you:

 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ba6Vs6aLY6I)

It's a good job BM put the YouTube preview pic thingy on, otherwise I would have clicked on that and had to smite you from here to Xmas.  noooo:
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: Snoopy on November 03, 2007, 09:40:15 AM
Well done old bear.
I look forward to the day when I can say "I knew him when he had nothing and now look at him"
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: Barman on November 03, 2007, 10:12:32 AM
Well done old bear.
I look forward to the day when I can say "I knew him when he had nothing and now look at him"
Ahem...

I think you mean, "I knew him when he had nothing and now look at him like..."  whistle:
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: Snoopy on November 03, 2007, 11:32:34 AM
"Like, I knew him when he had nothing like and now look at him like ....."

Any better?

I fight a daily rearguard action to prevent my boys from speaking like that ..... like. evil:

And this is another gem in North Wales which I suspect is imported from across the Mersey.
Two or more girls/wimmin pass in the street.
#1 (In high pitched voice) "HIYA!"
#2 (In equally high pitched voice "HIYA"
#1 (Still in HPV) "SEEYA"
#2 (Ditto) "YEAH ~ SEEYA"

And that is the entire conversation ~ I could kill them  evil:
Title: Re: Your further diy web site thoughts?
Post by: Misunderstood on November 03, 2007, 09:45:44 PM
"Like, I knew him when he had nothing like and now look at him like ....."

Any better?

I fight a daily rearguard action to prevent my boys from speaking like that ..... like. evil:

And this is another gem in North Wales which I suspect is imported from across the Mersey.
Two or more girls/wimmin pass in the street.
#1 (In high pitched voice) "HIYA!"
#2 (In equally high pitched voice "HIYA"
#1 (Still in HPV) "SEEYA"
#2 (Ditto) "YEAH ~ SEEYA"

And that is the entire conversation ~ I could kill them  evil:

No.  It is pure Welsh.   Except in the South, it is a far more developed and graceful greeting form.

1.    HIYA.
2.           HIYA.

1.    Orrite?         (Celtic equivalent to Ca Va?)
2.           Orrite!   (  ditto  )

1.    Seeya THEN.
2.            Yeah, Seeya.