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Come Inside... => Saloon Bar => Topic started by: Grumpmeister on June 20, 2007, 12:25:27 PM
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With all the things wrong in the world that the vatican could be taking an active part in changing why this?
The Vatican has issued a set of "10 commandments" for motorists to promote safer driving.
The "Guidelines for the Pastoral Care of the Road" call on drivers to respect speed limits, refrain from drinking before driving and avoid cursing.
Roman Catholics are also urged to make the sign of the cross before setting off on a journey.
That'll be a good one if you are a christian taxi driver picking up fares from forest gate
This is said to be the first time the Vatican has specifically dealt with the growing worldwide problem of road rage.
'Occasion of sin'
The 36-page document was put together by the Vatican's Pontifical Council for Migrants and Itinerant People.
We know that as a consequence of transgressions and negligence, 1.2 million people die each year on the roads
Cardinal Renato Martino
"Thou shalt not drive and drink", "thou shalt not make rude gestures behind the steering wheel" and "help accident victims" are among the 10 recommendations for motorists.
Surely drive and drink is acceptable, its drink and drive that would be the problem. Or am I just being pedantic here rubschin:
The document also warns that driving can bring out "primitive" behaviour in motorists, including "cursing, blasphemy, loss of sense of responsibility".
It says that automobiles can be "an occasion of sin" - particularly when they are used for dangerous overtaking or for prostitution.
eeek: I know there are people out there who really love cars but that is just disturbing. On the other hand its got to be more acceptable for the clergy than altar boys.
Cardinal Renato Martino, who heads the Vatican's council, said it was important to address the issue because driving had become a big part of contemporary life.
"We know that as a consequence of transgressions and negligence, 1.2 million people die each year on the roads," he said.
"That's a sad reality, and at the same time a great challenge for society and the Church."
There is not much speeding going on in the Vatican City itself, the BBC's David Willey in Rome says.
A 30km/h (19 mph) speed limit has been enforced for years in the tiny state.
The last recorded accident there was a year-and-a-half ago, our correspondent says.
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I agree ? talk about getting your priorities totally, completely and utterly wrong ? that just about sums it up. I was shouting at the radio this morning when I heard it but have been too busy to post? 1.2millions die every year on the roads and millions more die needlessly because the RCC won?t let them use condoms.
UK gov is adept at this attention diversion too ? I hear they want to have a footpath all round the UK ? headline news yesterday. Most excellent, that will make people sleep safe in their beds and give them confidence in the filthy germ ridden hospital that they?ll be taken to if they fall over during their trip.
Of course, if you have a path all round the UK people can walk around it ? after driving to a convenient car park in their polluting cars of course. Joined up thinking - my arse.
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1.2millions die every year on the roads and millions more die needlessly because the RCC won?t let them use condoms.
Go on, impress me.
How does the use of barrier contraceptives help road safety?
noooo:
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1.2millions die every year on the roads and millions more die needlessly because the RCC won?t let them use condoms.
Go on, impress me.
How does the use of barrier contraceptives help road safety?
noooo:
::)
Less kids = less drivers. Silly.
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1.2millions die every year on the roads and millions more die needlessly because the RCC won?t let them use condoms.
Go on, impress me.
How does the use of barrier contraceptives help road safety?
noooo:
Simple, recycling. Take 365 used ones melt them down and turn them into replacement tyres... whistle:
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Can they add one saying "Thou shalt not speed on the A3 after that last camera before hook, as the pigs in the camera wagon are hiding 300 yards down the road, in the shadows of the bridge and will get you with their mobile unit"
I can vouch that this is true as I was collared for it 2 hours ago. Bastards!
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Can they add one saying "Thou shalt not speed on the A3 after that last camera before hook, as the pigs in the camera wagon are hiding 300 yards down the road, in the shadows of the bridge and will get you with their mobile unit"
I can vouch that this is true as I was collared for it 2 hours ago. Bastards!
Bad luck. cry:
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Can they add one saying "Thou shalt not speed on the A3 after that last camera before hook, as the pigs in the camera wagon are hiding 300 yards down the road, in the shadows of the bridge and will get you with their mobile unit"
I can vouch that this is true as I was collared for it 2 hours ago. Bastards!
Oh jolly hard luck ..... Hook you say ~ That was the nearest railway station to the village I come from. Just walk across Hook Common onto Odiham Common, cross the canal bridge and call in the Water Witch for a quick pint. When you leave the Water Witch you'll see a small road on the opposite side of the road. I was born in the end house.
All much changed now but I do have something like 10 generation sin the church yard there.
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. . .10 generation sin the church yard there.
[snigger] point: [/snigger]
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redface: redface: redface: I told you I was not well yesterday. I may be joining them in the Churchyard.
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. . .10 generation sin the church yard there.
[snigger] point: [/snigger]
drumroll:
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Can they add one saying "Thou shalt not speed on the A3 after that last camera before hook, as the pigs in the camera wagon are hiding 300 yards down the road, in the shadows of the bridge and will get you with their mobile unit"
I can vouch that this is true as I was collared for it 2 hours ago. Bastards!
Bad luck. cry:
Bad luck? nonsense, he shouldn't have been speeding in the first place. point:
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The eleventh commandment.
If thou ist driving in the americas, shouldst thou run into somebody gettest thou the hell out of there
An angry Texas crowd has beaten and killed a 40-year-old car passenger after a driver injured a young girl near the site of a busy local festival.
Police said the driver of the car had stopped to check on the health of the girl, said to be aged three or four.
But when the passenger got out to see how she was, he was set upon by a group of up to 20 people before being left lying in a car park, police said.
The girl was hit at low speed and was not seriously injured.
The incident happened near Austin, Texas, as crowd of between 2,000-3,000 people gathered for the annual Juneteenth festival, which commemorates the freeing of American slaves.
'Group mentality'
According to reports, the driver of the car hit the girl at a low speed while moving through a car park, and then stopped so his passenger could check on her condition.
But the angry crowd quickly turned on David Rivas Morales, 40, beating him before leaving him lying on the ground.
He was taken to hospital but pronounced dead soon afterwards. A preliminary autopsy listed "blunt force trauma" as the cause of death, the Associated Press reported.
The driver was able to leave the scene in his car.
"Mr Morales could have been assaulted by two to 20 folks," said Harold Piatt, from the Austin police department.
"It's that same crowd mindset of being one face in 1,000. Things get out of hand pretty quickly and people don't have the good sense to stop."
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True UM, but the bit of road is just a government cash cow. Still, I was in a hire car, so perhaps our lazy police force won't follow it through
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True UM, but the bit of road is just a government cash cow. Still, I was in a hire car, so perhaps our lazy police force won't follow it through
happy001
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An odd thing.
Before they finally withdrew charges against me for speeding at an alledged 43mph. I paid a lot of attention and throughly investigated mobile speed units and their methods of application and any flaws existant in them.
It turns out every single case I have researched where people have been accused of speeding and had emphatically denied it, the alledged speed was - 43 mph.
That strikes me as an extraordinary coincidence.
With regard to the authorities being too lazy to bother... Had you mown down a bus queue or sparked off a multiple pile-up then you could hope. But for speeding? They'll chase you to the ends of the earth.
Speeding fines rank alongside Council Tax as-must collect monies, regardless of the cost.
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An odd thing.
Before they finally withdrew charges against me for speeding at an alledged 43mph. I paid a lot of attention and throughly investigated mobile speed units and their methods of application and any flaws existant in them.
It turns out every single case I have researched where people have been accused of speeding and had emphatically denied it, the alledged speed was - 43 mph.
That strikes me as an extraordinary coincidence.
With regard to the authorities being too lazy to bother... Had you mown down a bus queue or sparked off a multiple pile-up then you could hope. But for speeding? They'll chase you to the ends of the earth.
Speeding fines rank alongside Council Tax as-must collect monies, regardless of the cost.
Hmmmnnn? rubschin:
I?ve been caught for speeding twice here ? both times allegedly 73kph in a 50kph limit. I?ve met others with this mythical ?23? too?. It is a remarkable coincidence.
Both times were mobile traps with radar guns ? the policeman shows you the display of course but you have no way of knowing if it is your reading, somebody else?s or just a number he types-in at the beginning of his shift. noooo:
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An odd thing.
Before they finally withdrew charges against me for speeding at an alledged 43mph. I paid a lot of attention and throughly investigated mobile speed units and their methods of application and any flaws existant in them.
It turns out every single case I have researched where people have been accused of speeding and had emphatically denied it, the alledged speed was - 43 mph.
That strikes me as an extraordinary coincidence.
With regard to the authorities being too lazy to bother... Had you mown down a bus queue or sparked off a multiple pile-up then you could hope. But for speeding? They'll chase you to the ends of the earth.
Speeding fines rank alongside Council Tax as-must collect monies, regardless of the cost.
Hmmmnnn? rubschin:
I?ve been caught for speeding twice here ? both times allegedly 73kph in a 50kph limit. I?ve met others with this mythical ?23? too?. It is a remarkable coincidence.
Both times were mobile traps with radar guns ? the policeman shows you the display of course but you have no way of knowing if it is your reading, somebody else?s or just a number he types-in at the beginning of his shift. noooo:
That is more than a mere coincidence I think. The equivalent across the miles/kilometers divide is too damn close.
There has to be a logical reason why that speed differential is so common.
Maybe it is a break line from careless speeding to negligent speeding or a threshold for a higher fine or even the lowest 'beyond doubt' figure or somesuch...
It warrants more research I think.
I know, and can prove, a inbuilt flaw of 5mph in the 20-20 laser that is in use in the UK and also am aware that there is a distance limit to accurate use - and flaws in the calibration techniques and operational irregularities and provable flaws in deployment. Intentional misdirection in the declaration obligations to identify the driver - not to mention the evidence chain problems.
I may start a new company.