The Virtual Pub
Come Inside... => Saloon Bar => Topic started by: Miss Demeanour on August 11, 2009, 07:27:45 AM
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I normally get into work by about 7.30. There are a few early starters including 1 bloke who is normally in by 7.
This morning I got into the office to find him out cold, blood everywhere and another team member administering first aid eeek: He had already called for an ambulance.
The guy had blacked out - hit his head on the corner of a concrete pillar and had a deep , nasty cut on his head. He came too slowly and then proceeded to be sick.
Poor sod
He has now been taken off to hospital with another colleague and I am now trying to organise for a clean up of the area.....what a fffing palava . Not in service level agreements for our contract cleaning services to do this etc etc etc...
There may be more blood spilt yet by the end of the day evil:
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There may be more blood spilt yet by the end of the day evil:
Then you'll just have to clear that up as well.
Slip the office junior a few quid to clean it up.
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I hate vomit evil:
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Then you'll just have to clear that up as well.
Slip the office junior a few quid to clean it up.
Office junior ...office junior noooo:....this is local government you cannot use such derogatory terminology as that here Unc lol:
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Gopher? Deputy bin superintendent? Associate paper clip manager?
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Then you'll just have to clear that up as well.
Slip the office junior a few quid to clean it up.
Office junior ...office junior noooo:....this is local government you cannot use such derogatory terminology as that here Unc lol:
You lot are far too sensitive, probably why the chap fainted in the first place.
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Then you'll just have to clear that up as well.
Slip the office junior a few quid to clean it up.
Office junior ...office junior noooo:....this is local government you cannot use such derogatory terminology as that here Unc lol:
You lot are far too sensitive, probably why the chap fainted in the first place.
;D
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The old 'passed out and hit his head' story eh...? rubschin:
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No, he didn't fall off the roof
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I reckon he hit himself over the head... um with an ice club so no evidence could be found...
They can't possibly make him redundo when he is off on the sick see...? whistle:
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There have already been comments made about management brutality eeek: ....just cos I was sitting next to him and he was covered in blood when people were coming in proves nothing at all whistle:
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I now have to fill in an online accident report....complete a risk assessment and organise a occ health referral for his return to work.
I have also had to produce a report for the director and chief exec on what happened ...
feeling like banging my head on something sharp cussing:
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Here you go:
online accident report: Chap fainted, fell over, banged head.
risk assessment: fainting can cause accidents. Remedy: add question on employment form "how often do you faint in a year?" do NOT employ if answer over 1.
Referral for his return to work: return when a) bleeding has stopped. And b) when you have stopped seeing double.
report for the director and chief exec on what happened: "I wasn't there so I don't know"
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Don't you love the simplicity of life in the private sector worthy:
lol:
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We had a girl in the office who used to feint regularly - she never cracked her head open though and it always seemed to be on a Friday afternoon. She had great cans though, so she was always forgiven.
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Especially if she fell forwards eh lol:
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There was usually a scramble of males to get their first - for the mouth-to-mouth and chest compressions. Just to be on the safe side, like whistle:
And no, I didn't know at first that you weren't meant to use tongues during mouth-to-mouth...
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And at what point did you discover that the heart is not actually behind the breast you were so carefully massaging? whistle:
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And at what point did you discover that the heart is not actually behind the breast you were so carefully massaging? whistle:
The thing I was massaging was lower down and had hair on it. Seemed to revive her pretty quickly 8)
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Aaahh the pot of belly button fluff lol:
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back to fainting fella - he has had 13 stitches in the head wound and is being kept in the hospital today eeek:
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Do you know what caused him to faint?
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No Shrugs:
ECG tests all appear fine and blood sugar levels etc seem also to be ok
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We had a chap at work who was always in early. It turns out it was becuase he hadn't made it home the night before. He didn't so much feint as fall asleep with the gentle aroma of stale lager wafting from him.
And no, we didn't try mouth-to-mouth on him.
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Sorry TMR but:
feint:
1. A feigned attack designed to draw defensive action away from an intended target.
2. A deceptive action calculated to divert attention from one's real purpose.
faint
1. To fall into a usually brief state of unconsciousness.
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Sorry TMR but:
feint:
1. A feigned attack designed to draw defensive action away from an intended target.
2. A deceptive action calculated to divert attention from one's real purpose.
faint
1. To fall into a usually brief state of unconsciousness.
redface: I was thinking that as I was typing it, but I convinced myself I was right.
I blame it on the fact I have been up since 4 o'clock in the bloody morning.
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An unusual faint of that sort can be heart related and not show up on an ECG ~ it happens to me from time to time only in my case I don't faint because the implanted defibrillator kicks in and shocks me back. Some people do develop a heart problem that results in the heart literally stopping and then restarting itself and this doesn't show on an ECG because the event is well over before the ECG is taken.
See: http://www.stars.org.uk/
Click on Medical Info on the menu to the left hand side of the screen and then on Blackouts.
This BTW is a charity well worth supporting.
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An unusual faint of that sort can be heart related and not show up on an ECG ~ it happens to me from time to time only in my case I don't faint because the implanted defibrillator kicks in and shocks me back. Some people do develop a heart problem that results in the heart literally stopping and then restarting itself and this doesn't show on an ECG because the event is well over before the ECG is taken.
See: http://www.stars.org.uk/
Click on Medical Info on the menu to the left hand side of the screen and then on Blackouts.
This BTW is a charity well worth supporting.
Seconded, a friends daughter suffers from this.
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Do you know what caused him to faint?
No Shrugs:
ECG tests all appear fine and blood sugar levels etc seem also to be ok
You can ask again at the hospital when you go for your HIV test.
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Tsk noooo:
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Tsk noooo:
Well, you can't be too careful after handling a blood-spattered workmate. noooo:
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No fear...I don't have any open wounds...just the scars on my soul cry:
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No fear...I don't have any open wounds...just the scars on my soul cry:
Yes, we all have scars on our souls. noooo:
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And so the day begins Banghead
Yesterday one of the people in my team hadn't shown up for work by lunchtime. She was due to be in but no call received offering an explanation etc. So I rang her mobile and home numbers and left messages.
At 2 o clock she emailed in to say she would be taking the day off as leave due to circumstances beyond her control Shrugs:
I replied and said the following:-
"........you are aware of the absence reporting procedure and I'm sure you can appreciate the onus is on an individual to telephone a manager, regardless of the circumstances, before 10am. I do not consider an email at 2pm prompted by my phone messages to be adequate notification or acceptable.
Obviously I am unaware of the circumstances for which you have taken time off and we will need to discuss the matter upon your return to the office.
We can make retrospective arrangements for you to take the time as leave/flexi when we meet. Unless I hear further from you I will assume that you will return to work tomorrow."
Surely this is reasonable... rubschin:
I have opened up my messages this morning to find this reply :-
"Tone of your email is completely unnecessary. The time taken is annual leave I have not requested special leave or sick leave. You have no idea the circumstances of my late reporting, Your exaggerated response is unacceptable. I am totally unaware that you rang me and my email to you confirmed I will be in Tuesday, and confirmed AL or flexi leave if my hours allow.
I am now in need of taking Tuesday off , as A/L."
let the battle commence
Explode:
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Sack her!
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Keeeel her! eveilgrin:
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She is also the one that has taken out a grievance against me for refusing her some training ( discrimination etc ) . The course was for 18months. Cost ?4k and was for managers - which is not her position.
cussing: cussing: cussing:
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Sack her then keeeel her!
If she wants special treatment and compassion she should have told you the circumstances of her taking time off and not advising you.
Somehow though I get the feeling that the circumstances will turn out to be trivial.
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She prolly had an accident with a paint pod
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She has a real feckin issue with any kind of authority.......and has absolutely no concept that any of her behaviour is wrong and never will.
This can only end badly noooo:
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She has a real feckin issue with any kind of authority.......and has absolutely no concept that any of her behaviour is wrong and never will.
This can only end badly noooo:
For her! eveilgrin:
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She has a real feckin issue with any kind of authority.......and has absolutely no concept that any of her behaviour is wrong and never will.
This can only end badly noooo:
Write a considered report enclosing copies of all relevant correspondence, times of your calls etc, stating that you feel unable to deal with the matter due to the outstanding grievance and dump the whole matter on HR. When she arrives, eventually, for work you would be within your rights to suspend her on full pay until those above you can resolve the matter. Meanwhile instruct the pay section to deduct her pay for the period of absence as she has failed to comply with the (presumably) written procedures and has thus no permission to be absent. Well that's how it would have been dealt with in the world of employment that I came from and certainly, in my days as a Post Office Union Officer, would have drawn no complaint from the union as the employee is (i) breaking the agreed procedures (and all unions know it is their own interests to maintain those) and (ii) by passing the buck upwards you will take the argument away from the personal level that she is relying on and thus remove the union reps major headache and allow them to discuss an "arrangement" to mutual advantage with "management".
But what do I know ~ it would probably be easier to keeeeeel her!
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She has a real feckin issue with any kind of authority.......and has absolutely no concept that any of her behaviour is wrong and never will.
This can only end badly noooo:
Write a considered report enclosing copies of all relevant correspondence, times of your calls etc, stating that you feel unable to deal with the matter due to the outstanding grievance and dump the whole matter on HR. When she arrives, eventually, for work you would be within your rights to suspend her on full pay until those above you can resolve the matter. Meanwhile instruct the pay section to deduct her pay for the period of absence as she has failed to comply with the (presumably) written procedures and has thus no permission to be absent. Well that's how it would have been dealt with in the world of employment that I came from and certainly, in my days as a Post Office Union Officer, would have drawn no complaint from the union as the employee is (i) breaking the agreed procedures (and all unions know it is their own interests to maintain those) and (ii) by passing the buck upwards you will take the argument away from the personal level that she is relying on and thus remove the union reps major headache and allow them to discuss an "arrangement" to mutual advantage with "management".
But what do I know ~ it would probably be easier to keeeeeel her!
Wot he said.
I am also offering a special deal to all VP members of 10% off a "Slurry Surprise" if ordered before 1st September.
Terms and conditions apply
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She has a real feckin issue with any kind of authority.......and has absolutely no concept that any of her behaviour is wrong and never will.
This can only end badly noooo:
Get rid of her and hire me! I can bow and scrape with aplomb and make a fab cup of tea! I also have no history of fainting.
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Hey u - good to see you here . You have been missed cry:
PS I would love to hire you - at least I would have a laugh at work lol:
And I so don't expect bowing or scraping - just to do what you are meant to do - that's all
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You mean bowing and scraping isn't part of the job description? It isn't a standard requirment!?!?!?!? eeek:
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Only at a senior management level whistle:
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OK - after yet another inappropriate email from the woman in question this morning regarding her being AWOL I have confirmed in writing to her today that I will be taking formal action for misconduct cussing:
Whoop de doo - this will mean months of hassle noooo:
And so the day begins cry:
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The woman is a fool.
When someone uses the phrase "You can't get the staff these days" when commenting on an employee my retort is "wrong, you can't get rid of the staff these days!"
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She has requested voluntary redundancy although her job is not at risk ( a case of jumping on the bandwagon) . What's the bet that even though she has a guaranteed job she is making life difficult enough that they will consider just paying her off.
Boils my noodles it really does Banghead
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Booby trap her chair eveilgrin:
http://gizmodo.com/5157354/boy-killed-anally-when-office-chair-explodes (http://gizmodo.com/5157354/boy-killed-anally-when-office-chair-explodes)
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I have arranged a meeting with HR at 11 - whats the bet they will shy away from this evil:
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HR are always useless, but none of them ever gets made redundant for some reason whistle:
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Booby trap her chair eveilgrin:
http://gizmodo.com/5157354/boy-killed-anally-when-office-chair-explodes (http://gizmodo.com/5157354/boy-killed-anally-when-office-chair-explodes)
Ouch...Where on earth do you get these things from Nick?
I am now going to swap my office chair for a hard chair. scared2:
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Explode: Explode: Explode:
HR want mediation Banghead
her latest email
An apology was contained in the first email I sent you, within that same email I confirmed my time of return. An apology means I was in breach of procedure. In the same email I explained it was circumstances outside my control. A personal matter. I signalled in that same email I would be taken that time as AL or flexi. What else could have been done?
Your instance on telling matters I am aware of is unclear.
My reasons for failing to notify the department on time , is in trying to meet the deadline for an assignment for a management course (which the department refused to sponsor me on) I overslept. . I worked on the assignment till 4am Monday. The intention was to come into work, but I overslept.
I notified the department as soon as I was able to. Your inference suggesting I only emailed because you rang, was insulting. I had no way of knowing you had called or left a message on my phone. Your accusation of saying I was aggressive, is equally offensive. No doubt you have your reasons for wanting to create such impressions in writing, go ahead, but be sure it is based on evidence .
In 12 years, only twice have notified the council late in terms of my absence if that is a hanging offence , that is a decision for you.
Your exaggerated response on the matter show the unfairness and inconsistency of treatment of various staff. There are greater abusers of council time in the xxx department , I don't see management make a move with respect to those.
Your management style would be more effective, if you weren't so concerned with positioning.
Anyone fancy a drink after work evil:
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What are we drinking ~ Blood?
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Re-reading that email may I take it that English is not her mother tongue?
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She OVERSLEPT! eeek:
oh good grief!
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My old standby when dealing with HR was to declare that I felt unable to have the person back in my department as I had lost confidence and trust in them therefore, whilst I would not object to their continued employment in another department, they could not work under my direction.
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Explode: Explode: Explode:
HR want mediation Banghead
her latest email
An apology was contained in the first email I sent you, within that same email I confirmed my time of return. An apology means I was in breach of procedure. In the same email I explained it was circumstances outside my control. A personal matter. I signalled in that same email I would be taken that time as AL or flexi. What else could have been done?
Your instance on telling matters I am aware of is unclear.
My reasons for failing to notify the department on time , is in trying to meet the deadline for an assignment for a management course (which the department refused to sponsor me on) I overslept. . I worked on the assignment till 4am Monday. The intention was to come into work, but I overslept.
I notified the department as soon as I was able to. Your inference suggesting I only emailed because you rang, was insulting. I had no way of knowing you had called or left a message on my phone. Your accusation of saying I was aggressive, is equally offensive. No doubt you have your reasons for wanting to create such impressions in writing, go ahead, but be sure it is based on evidence .
In 12 years, only twice have notified the council late in terms of my absence if that is a hanging offence , that is a decision for you.
Your exaggerated response on the matter show the unfairness and inconsistency of treatment of various staff. There are greater abusers of council time in the xxx department , I don't see management make a move with respect to those.
Your management style would be more effective, if you weren't so concerned with positioning.
Anyone fancy a drink after work evil:
They are on me! happy100
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Re-reading that email may I take it that English is not her mother tongue?
Forked tongue?
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Re-reading that email may I take it that English is not her mother tongue?
Forked tongue?
Fork off more like! evil:
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Unfortunately English is her 1st language - hatred and bile her second evil:
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Bloody semi literate then! ~ anywhooo, that makes it easier to get shot of her.
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I have a feeling I am more likely to go than she is sad24:
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Then sue her eveilgrin:
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Unbloodybelievable! noooo:
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She is clearly a tosspot and deserves shooting. cussing:
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Try this.
http://www.personneltoday.com/blogs/human-resources-guru/2009/08/oh-good-its-national-hug-your.html
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Not feckin likely eeek:
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If Growler was around you could have got him in to give her a bear hug!
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Ahhhhh Growler cloud9: ...wouldn't mind a big bear hug myself lol: