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Come Inside... => Saloon Bar => Topic started by: Nick on February 08, 2010, 07:04:14 AM
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So let's see. First we are told that that delicate little flower Gordon Brown broke down in tears during an interview with Piers Moron. We have that lovely Jim Devine with his trembling little lip protesting and simultaneouly admitting that he was guilty of false accounting. Now sensitive little Alastair Campbell gets all tearful because that horrid Mr Marr has asked him a tricky question char090
How long till we see the loathsome Baroness Uddin sniffling into a Kleenex as she explains she accidentally stole ?180000? cussing:
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But if they cry and express remorse then the stupid British public are supposed to go 'aah bless' and forgive them all for being irresponsible criminals - it wasn't their fault after all - they were just working within the rules , even if they made them up as they went along evil:
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I expect the people in charge of this country to be made of sterner stuff. Any sign of blubbing should be a sackable offence.
cussing:
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Did you read the comments on the Daily Mail article...? 99% thought Brown put it on and was a loathsome reptile for it... eveilgrin:
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Did you read the comments on the Daily Mail article...? 99% thought Brown put it on and was a loathsome reptile for it... eveilgrin:
That'll be 99% of Daily Mail readers would it. Dippy and co ::)
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Leg-Iron manages to nail it once again! lol:
This is Britain. We don't respect you if you cower and cry. We don't want to know how you feel about anything at all. We are not remotely interested in your emotions and we don't understand them if you show them. We get edgy if you even stand too close. This is the country where Asperger's is normal. Here, you'd need to be well advanced along the autism spectrum before we'd even notice. And when we do notice, we won't worry about it.
We want leaders who will rage and fight against anything life throws at them. We want leaders who can stand up and say "Yes, I had a problem. I dealt with it. Forget it, it's not your business." We do not want to be run by a bunch of girlie men who blubber their way through life. That just won't work here. Any public emotional display makes us uncomfortable and we don't like to be uncomfortable. It's worse than vomiting at your host's dining table and it gets much the same reaction.
Source (http://underdogsbiteupwards.blogspot.com/2010/02/cry.html)
happ096
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I like Leg Iron cloud9:
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I like Leg Iron cloud9:
He is my first read of the day - after the pub of course... whistle:
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Vitriol is fine as far as it goes but clearly ridicule makes no difference to these people any more. They are immune to it.
The problem with Leg Iron and all the others is that they really don't offer anything as an alternative. Call Me Dave is a total arse, Clegg lacks Compo and Foggy to make him even laughable and Nu/Old Labour are beyond redemption. Where are the alternatives?
And now they are floating the idea of "ennobling" Cherry Booth/Blair ~ Gawd help us noooo:
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Agreed, but short of armed revolution vitriol and ridicule is about all we have. They hate it. I am not one of the piano wire and lamp-post brigade, but the blogosphere is now watched more closely inside Parliament and has brung off some scalps - more than the newspapers or the Beeb.....
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Thanks to Wiki we at least know that this lot will be gone:
In all, 86 Labour MPs, 35 Conservatives, 7 Liberal Democrats, 2 independents, 1 Independent Conservative and 1 member each from Plaid Cymru, Scottish National Party and the Democratic Unionist Party have announced that they will not be contesting the next election.
[edit] Labour
1. Hilary Armstrong ? North West Durham, announced 4 July 2009[36]
2. John Austin ? Erith and Thamesmead, announced 31 July 2008[37]
3. John Battle ? Leeds West, announced 20 October 2006[38]
4. Liz Blackman ? Erewash, announced 9 January 2010[39]
5. Des Browne ? Kilmarnock and Loudoun, announced 27 November 2009[40]
6. Colin Burgon ? Elmet, announced 23 April 2009[41]
7. Stephen Byers ? North Tyneside, announced 14 November 2009[42]
8. Richard Caborn ? Sheffield Central, announced 13 September 2007[43]
9. Colin Challen ? Morley and Rothwell, announced 30 January 2007[44]
10. Ben Chapman ? Wirral South, announced 21 May 2009 [45]
11. David Chaytor ? Bury North, announced 2 June 2009[46]
12. Michael Clapham ? Barnsley West and Penistone, announced 14 November 2006[47]
13. David Clelland ? Tyne Bridge, announced 26 January 2010[48]
14. Harry Cohen ? Leyton and Wanstead, announced 30 June 2009 [49]
15. Frank Cook ? Stockton North, deselected 12 January 2008[50]
16. Jim Cousins ? Newcastle upon Tyne Central, announced 9 June 2009[51]
17. Ann Cryer ? Keighley, announced 21 August 2008[52]
18. John Cummings ? Easington, announced 9 October 2006[53]
19. Claire Curtis-Thomas ? Crosby, announced 7 October 2009[54]
20. Janet Dean ? Burton, announced 20 June 2007[55]
21. Bill Etherington ? Sunderland North, announced 9 December 2006[56]
22. Barbara Follett ? Stevenage, announced 1 October 2009[57]
23. Neil Gerrard ? Walthamstow, announced 23 February 2007[58]
24. Nigel Griffiths ? Edinburgh South, announced 31 January 2010[59]
25. John Grogan ? Selby, announced 10 October 2006[60]
26. Mike Hall ? Weaver Vale, announced 2 February 2010[61]
27. Doug Henderson ? Newcastle upon Tyne North, announced 4 July 2009[36]
28. Stephen Hesford ? Wirral West, announced 23 January 2010[62]
29. Patricia Hewitt ? Leicester West, announced 2 June 2009[63]
30. Keith Hill ? Streatham, announced 23 May 2007[64]
31. Kim Howells ? Pontypridd, announced 18 December 2009[65]
32. Beverley Hughes ? Stretford and Urmston, announced 2 June 2009[63]
33. John Hutton ? Barrow and Furness, announced 5 June 2009[66]
34. Brian Iddon ? Bolton South East, announced 5 October 2006[67]
35. Adam Ingram ? East Kilbride, Strathaven and Lesmahagow, announced 27 March 2009[68]
36. Lynne Jones ? Birmingham Selly Oak, announced January 2007[69]
37. Martyn Jones ? Clwyd South, announced 7 May 2009[70]
38. Ruth Kelly ? Bolton West, announced 2 October 2008[71]
39. Fraser Kemp ? Houghton and Washington East. announced 6 September 2008[72]
40. Jane Kennedy ? Liverpool Wavertree, announced 9 November 2009[73]
41. Robert Laxton ? Derby North, announced 19 October 2009[74]
42. David Lepper ? Brighton Pavilion, announced 19 September 2006[75]
43. Tom Levitt ? High Peak, announced 12 November 2009[76]
44. Chris McCafferty ? Calder Valley, announced 7 March 2007[77]
45. Ian McCartney ? Makerfield, announced 23 May 2009[78]
46. John McFall ? West Dunbartonshire, announced 29 January 2010[79]
47. Rosemary McKenna ? Cumbernauld, Kilsyth and Kirkintilloch East, announced 3 August 2007[80]
48. Andrew MacKinlay ? Thurrock, announced 24 July 2009[81]
49. Bob Marshall-Andrews ? Medway, announced 17 July 2007[82]
50. Eric Martlew ? Carlisle, announced 1 May 2009[83]
51. Alan Milburn ? Darlington, announced 27 June 2009[84]
52. Margaret Moran ? Luton South, announced 28 May 2009[85]
53. Elliot Morley ? Scunthorpe, announced 29 May 2009[86]
54. Kali Mountford ? Colne Valley, announced 16 January 2009[87]
55. Chris Mullin ? Sunderland South, announced 10 May 2008[88]
56. Denis Murphy ? Wansbeck, announced 5 November 2009[89]
57. Doug Naysmith ? Bristol North West, announced 26 January 2007[90]
58. Bill Olner ? Nuneaton, announced 25 March 2007[91]
59. Ian Pearson ? Dudley South, announced 21 January 2010[92]
60. Greg Pope ? Hyndburn, announced 11 June 2009[93]
61. Bridget Prentice ? Lewisham East, announced 6 April 2009[94]
62. John Prescott ? Hull East, announced 27 August 2007[95]
63. Ken Purchase ? Wolverhampton North East, announced 27 October 2007[96]
64. John Reid ? Airdrie and Shotts, announced 15 September 2007[97]
65. Martin Salter ? Reading West, announced 10 February 2009[98]
66. Mohammad Sarwar ? Glasgow Central, announced 21 June 2007[99]
67. Si?n Simon ? Birmingham Erdington, announced 3 February 2010[100]
68. Alan Simpson ? Nottingham South, announced 18 February 2007[101]
69. John Smith ? Vale of Glamorgan, announced 22 May 2009[102]
70. Helen Southworth ? Warrington South, announced 16 June 2009[103]
71. Ian Stewart ? Eccles, defeated in selection for merged seat 19 January 2008[104]
72. Howard Stoate ? Dartford, announced 28 July 2009[105]
73. Gavin Strang ? Edinburgh East, announced 26 November 2007,[106] but reversed his decision 31 March 2008.[107] He announced on 27 June 2008 that he will stand down after all.[108]
74. Paddy Tipping ? Sherwood, announced 23 October 2009[109]
75. Mark Todd ? South Derbyshire, announced 21 September 2007[110]
76. Don Touhig ? Islwyn, announced 29 January 2010[111]
77. Paul Truswell ? Pudsey, announced 8 July 2009[112]
78. Des Turner ? Brighton Kemptown, announced 23 October 2006[113]
79. Neil Turner ? Wigan, announced 31 July 2009[114]
80. Kitty Ussher ? Burnley, announced 17 June 2009[115]
81. Rudi Vis ? Finchley and Golders Green, announced 28 May 2008[116]
82. Alan Williams ? Swansea West, announced September 2006[117]
83. Betty Williams ? Conwy, announced 12 September 2008[118]
84. Michael Wills ? North Swindon, announced 14 September 2009[119]
85. Tony Wright ? Cannock Chase, announced 21 July 2008[120]
86. Derek Wyatt ? Sittingbourne and Sheppey, announced 1 July 2009 [121]
Labour's National Executive Committee (NEC) barred five MPs from standing as official Labour Party candidates at the next general election in the wake of the United Kingdom Parliamentary expenses scandal.[122][123] However, they could stand as independent candidates. Three of these MPs, David Chaytor, Margaret Moran and Elliot Morley, have stated that they will be standing down as MPs. Another, Ian Gibson, resigned his seat, causing a by-election in Norwich North that was won by Conservative candidate Chloe Smith. The fifth, Jim Devine, has not yet stated whether he plans to stand down as an MP, resign, or stand as an independent for re-election as MP for Livingston.[124][125]
In addition, David Taylor (North West Leicestershire) had announced on 13 May 2008 that he would stand down at the general election,[126] but died on 26 December 2009.[127]
The East Lothian Labour Party voted on 22 January 2010 to deselect their MP Anne Moffat,[128] and the NEC will shortly be taking a decision on the matter.[129]
Conservative
1. Michael Ancram ? Devizes, announced 11 August 2009[130]
2. Peter Ainsworth ? East Surrey, announced 5 January 2010[131]
3. Peter Atkinson ? Hexham, announced 19 June 2008[132]
4. Tim Boswell ? Daventry, announced 31 March 2006[133]
5. Angela Browning ? Tiverton and Honiton, announced 17 November 2006[134]
6. Sir John Butterfill ? Bournemouth West, announced 17 March 2008[135]
7. Sir Patrick Cormack ? South Staffordshire, announced 1 December 2009[136]
8. David Curry ? Skipton and Ripon, announced 5 February 2009[137]
9. Christopher Fraser ? Norfolk South West, announced 28 May 2009[138]
10. Paul Goodman ? Wycombe, announced 5 June 2009[139]
11. John Greenway ? Ryedale, announced 28 November 2006[140]
12. John Gummer ? Suffolk Coastal, announced 30 December 2009[141]
13. Douglas Hogg ? Sleaford and North Hykeham, announced 19 May 2009[142]
14. John Horam ? Orpington, announced 12 October 2009[143]
15. Michael Howard ? Folkestone and Hythe, announced 17 March 2006[144]
16. Michael Jack ? Fylde, announced 14 March 2008[145]
17. Robert Key ? Salisbury, announced 2 December 2009[146]
18. Julie Kirkbride ? Bromsgrove, announced on 28 May 2009 that she would stand down,[147] reversed her decision on 5 November,[148] then announced she would indeed stand down on 18 December[149]
19. Jacqui Lait ? Beckenham, announced 21 September 2009[150]
20. Sir Michael Lord ? Central Suffolk and North Ipswich, announced 12 September 2009[151]
21. Andrew MacKay ? Bracknell, announced 23 May 2009[152]
22. David Maclean ? Penrith and The Border, announced 26 June 2009[153]
23. Humfrey Malins ? Woking, announced 16 March 2009[154]
24. John Maples ? Stratford-on-Avon, announced 10 January 2010[155]
25. Michael Mates ? East Hampshire, announced 24 November 2006[156]
26. Malcolm Moss ? North East Cambridgeshire, announced 6 September 2007[157]
27. Sir Michael Spicer ? West Worcestershire, announced 24 March 2006[158]
28. Richard Spring ? West Suffolk, announced 23 November 2009[159]
29. Anthony Steen ? Totnes, announced 20 May 2009[160]
30. Ian Taylor ? Esher and Walton, announced 16 June 2009[161]
31. Sir Peter Viggers ? Gosport, announced 20 May 2009[162]
32. Ann Widdecombe ? Maidstone and The Weald, announced 7 October 2007 [163]
33. David Wilshire ? Spelthorne, announced 15 October 2009[164]
34. Sir Nicholas Winterton ? Macclesfield, announced 25 May 2009[165]
35. Ann, Lady Winterton ? Congleton, announced 25 May 2009[165]
Liberal Democrats
1. John Barrett ? Edinburgh West, announced 25 July 2009[166]
2. Colin Breed ? South East Cornwall, announced 9 October 2007[167]
3. David Howarth ? Cambridge, announced 5 November 2009[168]
4. Paul Keetch ? Hereford, announced 16 November 2006[169]
5. Mark Oaten ? Winchester, announced 25 July 2006[170]
6. Matthew Taylor ? Truro and St Austell, announced 17 January 2007.[171]
7. Phil Willis ? Harrogate and Knaresborough, announced 18 May 2007.[172]
Other parties
1. Derek Conway (Independent conservative; Conservative Party whip withdrawn) ? Old Bexley and Sidcup, announced 30 January 2008[173]
2. Ian Paisley (Democratic Unionist Party) ? North Antrim, announced January 2008,[174] may reverse decision.[175]
3. Andrew Pelling (Independent; Conservative Party whip withdrawn) ? Croydon Central, announced 4 December 2007,[176] although is reported to be reconsidering.[177]
4. Adam Price (Plaid Cymru) ? Carmarthen East and Dinefwr, announced 18 September 2009[178]
5. Alex Salmond MSP (Scottish National Party) ? Banff and Buchan, announced 15 January 2006[179] (will remain an MSP)
6. Clare Short (Independent; elected as Labour MP, resigned the whip 20 October 2006) ? Birmingham Ladywood, announced 14 September 2006.[180][181]
Iris Robinson, the Democratic Unionist Party MP for Strangford, had announced on 28 December 2009 that she would not seek re-election.[182] However subsequent revelations led her to resign her seat in January 2010, before the end of the Parliament.
However looking at those queueing up to get selected I doubt that we will see much benefit.
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Did you see Guido Fawkes tearing into Tim Yeo the other night? No one in the mainstream had picked THAT up! Yeo went bonkers!
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No I missed that. Did you post something? ~ I'll go and have a look.
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http://order-order.com/guy-news-yeo-tory-policy-confusion-lie-action-replay/ (http://order-order.com/guy-news-yeo-tory-policy-confusion-lie-action-replay/)
whistle:
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and so it continues noooo: noooo: noooo:
Gordon Brown has admitted he struck a deal with Tony Blair over the 1994 succession to the Labour leadership.
He said they agreed Mr Blair would have a clear run, and then support Mr Brown to take over when he stepped down.
But he told ITV1's Piers Morgan's Life Stories the deal was not made at the Granita restaurant as widely believed.
The prime minister also wept when he spoke about his daughter Jennifer, who died aged 10 days after suffering a brain haemorrhage in 2002.
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Last time I got a Valentines card, St Valentine was still alive. sad32:
Still, I turned out quite normal. rubschin:
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and so it continues noooo: noooo: noooo:
Gordon Brown has admitted he struck a deal with Tony Blair over the 1994 succession to the Labour leadership.
He said they agreed Mr Blair would have a clear run, and then support Mr Brown to take over when he stepped down.
But he told ITV1's Piers Morgan's Life Stories the deal was not made at the Granita restaurant as widely believed.
The prime minister also wept when he spoke about his daughter Jennifer, who died aged 10 days after suffering a brain haemorrhage in 2002.
As much as I think that Gordon is a loathsome power hungry bully a part of me is tempted to give him the benefit of the doubt as far as shedding tears talking about the death of his daughter. No parent should ever outlive their child. It doesnt however mean that I'm going to vote labour at the next election.
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and so it continues noooo: noooo: noooo:
Gordon Brown has admitted he struck a deal with Tony Blair over the 1994 succession to the Labour leadership.
He said they agreed Mr Blair would have a clear run, and then support Mr Brown to take over when he stepped down.
But he told ITV1's Piers Morgan's Life Stories the deal was not made at the Granita restaurant as widely believed.
The prime minister also wept when he spoke about his daughter Jennifer, who died aged 10 days after suffering a brain haemorrhage in 2002.
As much as I think that Gordon is a loathsome power hungry bully a part of me is tempted to give him the benefit of the doubt as far as shedding tears talking about the death of his daughter. No parent should ever outlive their child. It doesnt however mean that I'm going to vote labour at the next election.
Didn't he say he wanted to keep his family out of it all tho...? rubschin:
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Exactly - before that was strictly off limits
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This is one of the most sickening, revolting pieces of political posturing I have ever, ever seen. I simply can't find the words to express just how repugnant this is, and how contemptible a 'man' Brown has become in his desperate scrabble to maintain his position.
Source (http://lookingforavoice.blogspot.com/)
What he said! ^^^^^
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Grief top trumps is not an edifying sight. But somebody experiencing grief apparently demonstrates that they ?understand? your pain. It is therefore all the rage. I felt grief after David Carradine choked himself to death whilst tossing off, (you see, the trend setting Tories were into that way before Carradine and Hutchence made it look cool). So I now ?understand? your pain right?
Apparently not. There are different levels of grief. For example, the pain felt from losing a family dog is slight when compared to the loss of say a sibling. On the scale of grief my Kung-Fu star doesn?t seem to cut it.
I am regularly informed that the pinnacle of grief is the loss of one?s offspring. Seemingly if this has happened to you, you have climbed the summit and are now free to ?understand? everything.
I wonder though if this top stratum of grief can be further sub-divided. Let?s try these two examples.
1: A couple become pregnant. Following complications the baby is born prematurely weighing a tiny amount. After a week or so, before it has developed the ability to recognise and react to its father, to demonstrate personality or to form friendships, it dies. The parents try again and are successful in having another child. The distress of this incident is enough to cause tears when explained during a TV interview years later.
2: A couple raise their one and only child for 18 years. Through years of care-filled effort, love and expense they produce a young adult ready to make its way in the world and of whom they are rightfully proud. Later they receive the news that despite the top of the range body-armour they paid for themselves, their genetic future is now little more than a charred lump of flesh in a field hospital somewhere in Afghanistan. They strongly believe, and with good reason, this is due to a Scottish liar cutting the Army?s helicopter budget and forcing their child to be sent on a journey in a Landrover instead. They are now too old to produce another.
Is there a difference in grief between these two examples? Does one trump the other? I would imagine so.
Perspective is everything. So forgive me if I struggle to feel your pain GB. You can cry us an entire river if you like but history will remember you as one of the more incompetent, vindictive and mendacious Prime Ministers in our nation?s history and barring a miracle your public abasement will still see you at the job centre come May.
I didn?t start blogging so I could comment upon the deaths of other people?s children, but then I never ever expected to see the leader of my country exploiting such a death for votes. How much lower have we to sink before this farce is over?
?Old Slaughter
Source (http://www.annaraccoon.com/politics/the-hierarchy-of-grief/)
Excellent! happ096
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Evening All,
I was very tempted the other day to respond to this but emotion (and Leon) got the better of me. I am now slightly more composed.
"Crying" - I could cry when I think of the 3300 + laws introduced under this Gummint.
CRB notices required for Grandparents, volunteers and anyone else who interfaces with children.
The bodies we see weekly in Wooton Baaset.
The absolute greed of 'public servants' at all levels from the House of Poo to the local council.
Gummint inability to differentiate between the public & private sector -I look forward to seeing the P &L for
'public sector' operation.
Enough for now - need to get tissues!
B.
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Leon...? sick2: