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Come Inside... => Saloon Bar => Topic started by: GROWLER on May 28, 2010, 08:57:54 PM
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I mean, what is the point of all those little slits on envelopes, you know, the bit where you open them up, the sticky flappy bit.
You peel away the edge and you only get half an inch when it tears back, so you have to start again and continue this process the full length.
Pointless, and mildly annoying.
The other one is the packaging on some goods.
Growler Jnr recently bought some random thing for his X Box, and it took the two of us over five minutes to hack our way through the reinforced plastic casing, and I had the same problem with a new shower head I puurchased recently.
I literally had to hack and cut at it to gain entry,and cut my hand in the process.
After all that, I discovered it was the wrong one too. Banghead
Can I take it back to B and Very Long Q without any packaging I wonder? Shrugs:
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Wrap rage, Growler, see here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wrap_rage)
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So why the blazes do these manufacturers keep on using these reinforced 'blister packs'?
They are an absolute nightmare. cussing:
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That plastic film they wrap new CD's up in is another 'mare to get open too.
Just how can they seal them so tightly that you cannot find an edge to start the process of unwrapping.
I've taken to using my ciggy lighter to start the process quite often.
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Non stick pans.
HA! noooo:
Why does my full fry up always stick then ey...especially the egg? Banghead
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So why the blazes do these manufacturers keep on using these reinforced 'blister packs'?
They are an absolute nightmare. cussing:
Agreed...
I note that Amazon now offer 'simple packaging' on some of their goods... cloud9:
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It's probably a DDA requirement these days lol:
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New toothbrushes are always sealed like they were radioactive or summat cussing:
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New toothbrushes are always sealed like they were radioactive or summat cussing:
Oh yes... bloody lucky brushing your teeth isn't urgent! cussing:
We have an electric one and even the new 'head' things are sealed for life! noooo:
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Might be easier to seal yer teeth up, like rubschin:
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Might be easier to seal yer teeth up, like rubschin:
You have to brush them twice a day or you have a heart attack apparently.... ::)
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Research sponsored by Colgate perhaps rubschin:
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Research sponsored by Colgate perhaps rubschin:
Prolly.... ::)
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Might be easier to seal yer teeth up, like rubschin:
You have to brush them twice a day or you have a heart attack apparently.... ::)
Youghurt cures cancer....this week...apparently.
Any answers for those little slits in the envelope sticky flappy bit, normally white window envelopes please?
I'm intrigued.
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The only reason I can think of is that the slits show if the envelope has been tampered with. You can't peel it open and reclose it without damage. shrugs:
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The only reason I can think of is that the slits show if the envelope has been tampered with. You can't peel it open and reclose it without damage. shrugs:
Quite right Uncle... happy088
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Non stick pans.
HA! noooo:
Why does my full fry up always stick then ey...especially the egg? Banghead
We were given some non stick pans ~ couldn't get the fecking label off! cussing:
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This may help angel1
Claims:
What is claimed is
1. A side-seam envelope comprising:
2. The envelope defined in claim 1 wherein the tab die cut is crescent-shaped.
3. The envelope defined in claim 1 wherein the tear lines diverge as they move upwardly from the tab die cut.
4. The envelope defined in claim 1 wherein each tear line comprises a plurality of spaced slits.
5. The envelope defined in claim 4 wherein each slit is straight.
6. The envelope defined in claim 4 wherein each slit is obliquely inclined with respect to the direction of the tear.
7. The envelope defined in claim 4 wherein each slit is approximately parallel to the adjacent slit.
8. The envelope defined in claim 7 wherein each slit is laterally displaced outwardly with respect to the subjacent slit and partially overlaps the subjacent slit.
9. The envelope defined in claim 8 wherein each slit is obliquely inclined.
10. The envelope defined in claim 4 wherein each slit is laterally displaced outwardly with respect to the subjacent slit and laterally displaced inwardly with respect to the superjacent slit and wherein each slit partially overlaps the subjacent slit and is partially overlapped by the superjacent slit.
11. The envelope defined in claim 10 wherein each slit is obliquely inclined.
12. The envelope defined in claim 1 wherein the angle between the tear lines is approximately 80? .
13. The envelope defined in claim 1 wherein each tear line terminates short of the side seam.
14. The envelope defined in claim 1 wherein each tear line extends upwardly and terminates adjacent the upper edge of the back panel and under the flap.
15. The envelope defined in claim 1 wherein each tear line extends upwardly and terminates adjacent the bottom free edge of the flap in its secured position.
16. The envelope defined in claim 1 wherein the upper portion of each side seam is free of any adhesive connection to the back panel and wherein each tear line extends upwardly and outwardly until the tear line is adjacent an edge of the back panel overlapping an unsecured portion of the side seam.
17. The envelope defined in claim 1 wherein each tear line extends upwardly to at least the free bottom edge of the flap in its secured position and wherein the tear line then turns outwardly and approximately follows the free bottom edge of the flap in its secured position until the tear line is adjacent a free edge of the back panel.
18. The envelope defined in claim 17 wherein said free edge of the back panel overlaps an unsecured portion of the side seam.
Description:
BACKGROUND OF THE INVENTION
This invention relates to an envelope and more particularly to a side-seam envelope having an opening device which insures easy access to the envelope and full disclosure of the contents thereof.
In an era of mass mailings, emphasis has been on envelope constructions which provide quick and easy devices for opening the envelope. Such devices include tear strips along an edge of the envelope or tear-out, triangular sections on the back of a diagonal-seam envelope, such as disclosed in the U.S. Pat. to Robbins, No. 3,297,285 of Jan. 10, 1967. On the other hand, some devices work from the front side of the envelope in conjunction with the window, such as the tear strip in Heywood, U.S. Pat. No. 2,828,065 of Mar. 25, 1958.
There is no attempt in any of these inventions to provide a device which, when opened, will disclose the entire contents of the envelope to the viewer. In each instance, one end or an end panel is ripped thereby enabling one to easily remove the contents from the ripped end of the envelope. Some individuals will not take the time to open an envelope nor, once opened, will they take the time to remove and examine all of the contents. Rather, the envelope and its contents find the wastebasket before the viewer is hit with the "selling message."
In order to get the selling message to the addressee, it is desirable to have an easy means of opening the envelope and furthermore to have a means which will disclose a sufficient portion of the major selling message to attract the interest of the addressee. There are some problems with the prior art which relates to quick opening devices. Most mass mailing envelopes have window constructions. Therefore, any attempt to remove a substantial portion of the front panel of the envelope is complicated because of the construction of the window. Devices which start at the window and work towards one edge of the envelope do not disclose a sufficient portion of the contents of the envelope. A further problem encountered with devices which operate on the front side of the envelope is that the top and most readily viewable insert, once a portion of the front panel has been torn away, is the address sheet or the reverse side of the return envelope, since the address appearing thereon must show through the window.
If the envelope is turned over so that the most important message would be readily viewable once the back panel is removed, another problem is presented. The envelopes shown in the prior art are generally diagonal-seam envelopes. It is quite easy to position the tear lines so that one panel of the diagonal-seam envelope can be removed. However, where it is necessary to remove more than one panel, the tear lines must pass across sealed seams. Since the tear lines are cut in the envelope blank before it is folded, it is readily apparent that it is quite difficult to register the cuts forming the tear line at the overlapping seams. Moreover, when the envelope is glued, the glue might seep through the tear cuts and completely defeat the purpose of the tear line.
SUMMARY OF THE INVENTION
The present invention is designed for use in mass mailings. Its purpose is two fold. First, like other envelopes, there is provided a device which enables the envelope to be easily opened. Second, the opening device is constructed in such a way that the most important message is readily viewable when the envelope is opened.
In the present invention the envelope uses a side seam so that the major portion of the back panel is free of glued seams. The tear line starts with a die cut defining a tab adjacent the bottom edge of the back panel and proceeds upwardly to the bottom edge of the flap in its sealed position. At that point, the tear line can stop; it can proceed under the flap to the upper edge of the back panel; or it can proceed along the free edge of the flap in its sealed position to a point where it intersects a free edge of the back panel of the envelope. In some constructions this point might occur on an edge which overlies a side seam. In such constructions, it is contemplated that the glued portion of the side seam would terminate short of the overlapping tear line.
BRIEF DESCRIPTION OF THE DRAWINGS
FIG. 1 is a back, plan view of the envelope in a sealed condition with parts broken away for clarity;
FIG. 2 is a fragmentary back plan view of a modification of the tear line in FIG. 1;
FIG. 3 is a fragmentary back plan view of another modification of the tear line in FIG. 1;
FIG. 4 is a fragmentary back plan view of still another modification of the tear line in FIG. 1; and
FIG. 5 is a fragmentary back plan view of the envelope in FIG. 1 after it has been ripped open.
DETAILED DESCRIPTION OF THE DRAWINGS
FIG. 1 comprises a plan view of the backside of a side-seam envelope 10. The envelope includes a front panel 12, a back panel 14, and a flap 16. The front panel 12 has upper 18 and bottom 20 edges and opposed side edges 22. A pair of opposed side seams 24 are integrally connected to the front panel along the side edges 22. The side seams are folded back to lie adjacent or contiguous to the front panel. The back panel has upper 26 and bottom 28 edges and opposed side edges 30. The bottom edge 28 of the back panel is integrally secured to the bottom edge 20 of the front panel. The back panel is folded up to lie adjacent or contiguous to the front panel and is secured to each side seam 24 along at least a portion of the side seam by an adhesive means shown at 32. The upper edge 26 of the back panel defines the throat of the envelope.
The flap 16 is integrally secured to the front panel along the upper edge 18 of the front panel and has the usual adhesive strip 34 adjacent its free bottom edge 36. The flap is adapted to be folded back in the usual manner and to be secured by the adhesive strip 34 to the back panel.
An opening means is provided on the back panel for providing an easy method for opening the envelope while simultaneously providing a full disclosure of the inserts not shown, in the envelope. The opening means comprises a tab 40 defined by the area between a tab die cut 42 extending through the back panel and having two upwardly turned, free ends 44. As illustrated, the tab die cut is arcuate or cresent in shape, but within the scope of the invention it could take various configurations. The free, upwardly turned ends 44 insure that the tab, when pulled to initiate the tear, will start an upward tear leading to the top of the back panel.
The lowermost point 46 on the tab die cut is spaced a short distance 47 from the bottom edge 28 of the back panel. If the lowermost point on the tab die cut occurred at the bottom edge of the panel, it could be easily ripped when the front and back panels are folded during the manufacture of the envelope. Moreover, if the lowermost point on the die cut fell exactly on the bottom edge of the envelope, it might be ripped during mailing. The lowermost point 46 on the tab die cut is spaced a short distance from the bottom edge of the back panel to permit a full disclosure of the contents of the envelope when it is ripped opened. Furthermore, if this point was spaced more than a short distance from the bottom edge of the back panel, the inserts, mechanically placed in the envelope, might snag on the tab die cut. If the tab die cut is only a short distance from the bottom edge, such as one-eighth of an inch, the flap can still be folded over the inserts and sealed if the inserts snag, since there is generally greater than one-eighth of an inch clearance between the upper edge of the front panel and the top of the inserts when fully inserted in the envelope.
A tear line 48 extends upwardly from each free end 44 of the die cut to at least the free bottom edge 36 of the flap in a secured position. The tear line is not directly connected to the free end 44 of the die cut but the pulling of the tab will result in the paper between the free end of the tab die cut and the tear line being easily ripped. It will be noted that the adhesive strip 32 of the flap, when it is in its secured position, falls between the opposed tear lines 48. When the envelope is torn open along the tab die cut and tear line, the back panel is divided into a torn portion 50 and a remaining portion 52, as further illustrated in FIG. 5. Thus, the adhesive strip 32 of the flap is secured to the torn portion 50 and terminates short of the remaining portion 52 of the back panel.
The arrangement of the tear lines could take a variety of configurations. Preferably, the tear lines diverge as they move upwardly from the tab die cut. As the tear lines diverge (assuming something greater than a minimal divergence), there is apt to be a tendency for the tear not to follow the lines unless there is some reinforcement in the torn portion. It will be found, for instance with respect to the envelope illustrated in FIG. 1, that the tear will diverge from the tear lines when the flap is not secured to the back panel. The point of divergence is approximately halfway up the tear line. At this point, the tendency for the tear to assume a vertical path is greater than its tendency to follow the diverging, inclined path of the tear line. The ability of the tear to follow the tear line depends in part upon the depth and amount of support which the secured flap gives to the torn portion of the back panel. It might even be possible to arrange tear lines in any given configuration so long as the torn portion is reinforced by some means, such as a clear plastic compound applied to the back panel between the tear lines.
In FIG. 1, the tear lines extend upwardly toward a corner of the envelope. As illustrated, the envelope has a McIntyre cut 54 which exposes a portion of the side seam 24. This cut is desirable for use with mechanical inserting machines since a vacuum means operates on the exposed side seam to lift the back panel during mechanical insertion of the envelope contents. The tear lines extend up to the adjacent proximity of the McIntyre cut, but do not in this embodiment, nor in any other embodiment, intersect the edge of the back panel. Otherwise, this cut, raw edge might cause jamming or tearing during mechanical insertion. As shown, the tear lines extend under the corners 56 of the flap, with the adhesive strip terminating short of these corners.
In the embodiment shown in FIG. 2, each tear line rises more abruptly and extends up to the bottom edge 36 of the flap and then under the bottom edge of the flap to the upper edge 26 of the back panel. Again, the tear line terminates in the adjacent proximity of the upper edge, but does not actually intersect this edge. The adhesive portion of the flap in its secured position falls between the tear lines.
Each tear line shown in FIG. 3 terminates at the bottom edge of the flap. At this point, the adhesive portion of the flap lies within an imaginary vertical line drawn from a termination of the tear line to the upper edge of the back panel. In operation, the tear line is followed up to the bottom edge of the flap or, for that matter, a slight distance under the flap, and then follows a free tear, which is generally vertical in direction, through the paper. The tear is effective because the adhesive portion of the flap remains on the torn portion of the back panel and terminates short of the remaining portion of the back panel. In essence, the free tear follows the most direct approach from the termination of tear line to the upper edge of the back panel. This embodiment is probably less desirable than that shown in FIG. 2, for instance, since the free tear is less attractive than the finished tear.
Still a further modification is shown in FIG. 4 where each tear line extends upwardly to the free bottom edge of the flap in a secured position and then turns outwardly and approximately follows the free bottom edge of the flap to a free edge of the back panel. This design is most effective when used in conjunction with a V-flap such as disclosed in FIG. 4. When the tear line follows the free bottom edge of the flap, it generally intersects an edge of the back panel at a point which overlies the side seam. Accordingly, it is necessary in this embodiment to short-glue the side seams so that the adhesive means 32 does not interfere with the tear strip.
The tear line itself could assume a number of configurations. For instance, the tear line could comprise a plurality of spaced perforations, but a tear line having this configuration is often hard to follow when diverging from the direction of pull. The same problem also occurs with respect to a plurality of spaced, end-to-end slits since such a tear line is hard to follow as you pull up on a triangular-shaped, torn panel. Preferably, the tear line comprises a plurality of spaced slits 58 which are illustrated as being straight. Each of the slits is obliquely inclined with respect to the direction of the tear. The slits are laterally displaced outwardly with respect to the subjacent slit and laterally displaced inwardly with respect to the superjacent slit. Thus, adjacent slits are partially overlapping so that the configuration of the tear (see FIGS. 1 and 5) follows the slit line to its upper, outer end and then passes, approximately vertically, to the superjacent slit where it again follows the contour of that slit to its upper, outer end. The tear path thus has a stepped effect which is illustrated in FIG. 5. If the overall tear line is approximately straight, as is preferable, the slits will be approximately parallel. By being obliquely inclined, there is a reduced tendency for the slits to interfere with the mechanical insertion of contents into the envelope.
In one operative model of the invention, an envelope 4 1/2 ? 7 3/4inches had a tab die cut having its lowermost point three-sixteenth inch from the bottom edge. The angle between the two tear lines was approximately 80? with each slit being obliquely inclined from a horizontal at approximately 15? (i.e., the cut angle). The slits were approximately three-eighth inch long and spaced vertically from each other by one-eighth inch.
It should be readily apparent that there are infinite variations depending basically upon the size of the envelope and the angle of the tear or "action line". It is readily apparent that the greater the cut angle, the better the tearing action. Moreover, there is a direct relationship between the length of each slit or cut and the number of parallel cuts as well as the vertical distance between adjacent slits--the longer the slit the fewer the parallel cuts and the greater the vertical distance between the slits.
The invention has disclosed the tear lines falling on the back panel. If the envelope has, by chance, a reverse flap, the flap would be secured to the front side or at least to the side with the address and postage. If there was a window, the tear lines could go around the window so that the window would lay within the torn portion of the panel. Of course, in this construction, one advantage of the invention is negated because the address label or return envelope is the first thing disclosed upon opening the envelope. Within the scope of the invention, however, the back panel is defined as the panel to which the flap is adapted to be secured.
While the preferred forms of the invention have been illustrated in the drawings and discussed above, it should be adequately clear that considerable modification may be made thereto without departing from the principles of the invention. Therefore, the foregoing should be considered in an illustrative sense rather than a limiting sense, and accordingly the extent of this invention should be limited only by the spirit and scope of the claims appended hereto.
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So we gave the non stick pans to the charity shop whistle:
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Nick. Can you possibly ring and dictate to me a slightly briefer version?
I actually wore my eyes out reading that and am now blind.
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Non stick pans.
HA! noooo:
Why does my full fry up always stick then ey...especially the egg? Banghead
We were given some non stick pans ~ couldn't get the fecking label off! cussing:
drumroll:
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Whilst I was in the bank this morning waiting whilst the rather attractive young lady figured out how to set up "business banking" on the new software that no one had told her about ::) ... ... ... ...
... I was quite glad that I'd taken with me a promo copy of the Lakeland magazine which someone had left downstairs in our hallway. A truly amazing emporium of strange and potentially useless things. I think I can live without a set of Sporks (sic) but I might have to investigate further the Swiss Mandoline and the Lettuce Knife rubschin:
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Whilst I was in the bank this morning waiting whilst the rather attractive young lady figured out how to set up "business banking" on the new software that no one had told her about ::) ... ... ... ...
... I was quite glad that I'd taken with me a promo copy of the Lakeland magazine which someone had left downstairs in our hallway. A truly amazing emporium of strange and potentially useless things. I think I can live without a set of Sporks (sic) but I might have to investigate further the Swiss Mandoline and the Lettuce Knife rubschin:
You can spare the fingers can you?
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Don't worry Snoops, I'm well trained in the fence: department ;)
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Having, joyfully, watched that twat Rick Stein slice himself on a mandolin, on TV to much on camera cursing, I have to say we have all done it.
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Was'a lettuce knife especially do then like ey? rubschin:
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I wandered that but just thought I was being stoopid redface:
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I Googled it
Lettuce Knife™
Serrated plastic lettuce knife.
If you cut through lettuce with a metal knife, natural oxidisation turns the edges brown.
This serrated plastic knife leaves verdant green lettuce, with no waste.
But then the Chef in me says NEVER CUT A LETTUCE ~ ALWAYS TEAR IT WITH YOUR FINGERS
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I Googled it
Lettuce Knife?
Serrated plastic lettuce knife.
If you cut through lettuce with a metal knife, natural oxidisation turns the edges brown.
This serrated plastic knife leaves verdant green lettuce, with no waste.
Well I just experimented on a bira lettuce with an ordinary knife, and it didn't turn brown, so THAT is all a load of old bolox then.
Another strange and useless article....bit like Nick really i suppose. rubschin:
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I Googled it
Lettuce Knife?
Serrated plastic lettuce knife.
If you cut through lettuce with a metal knife, natural oxidisation turns the edges brown.
This serrated plastic knife leaves verdant green lettuce, with no waste.
Well I just experimented on a bira lettuce with an ordinary knife, and it didn't turn brown, so THAT is all a load of old bolox then.
Another strange and useless article....bit like Nick really i suppose. rubschin:
Just you wait, it'll turn brown around the cut edges.
Anyhoo, slicing an Iceberg is just what I want angel1
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Like I said ~ that's why Chefs tend to tear lettuce leaves.
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I Googled it
Lettuce Knife?
Serrated plastic lettuce knife.
If you cut through lettuce with a metal knife, natural oxidisation turns the edges brown.
This serrated plastic knife leaves verdant green lettuce, with no waste.
But then the Chef in me says NEVER CUT A LETTUCE ~ ALWAYS TEAR IT WITH YOUR FINGERS
The CHEF in me sez 'go the chippy'. cloud9:
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I Googled it
Lettuce Knife?
Serrated plastic lettuce knife.
If you cut through lettuce with a metal knife, natural oxidisation turns the edges brown.
This serrated plastic knife leaves verdant green lettuce, with no waste.
But then the Chef in me says NEVER CUT A LETTUCE ~ ALWAYS TEAR IT WITH YOUR FINGERS
The CHEF in me sez 'go the chippy'. cloud9:
lol: lol: lol:
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The CHEF in me sez 'go the chippy'. cloud9:
;D happy088
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Pastis reminds me that I "won" a little gizmo which cuts cucumbers into the shape of those springy slinky thingies. The ones that climb down stairs. Why?
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Lakeland Plastic make a fortune out of selling such gadgets. About the only places I have seen vegetables/fruit cut and served in these exotic styles is at presentations for time share holidays or in the piccies in those brochures for cruises with improbably named shipping companies who offer a "Chef's deluxe buffet on arrival".
I think the Hyacinth Buckets of this world buy them.
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What's wrong with just stuffing the nosh on a plate just as it is, off the tree or from the ground, whatever, and simply diving in and eating it.
Far too much time wasted on all this fancy pants decoration malarky crap.
Jusst get it down yer neck, no messin', horns an' hoofs included.
Like these bloody wretched 'drizzles' that some retaurants put on your dinner plates.
WTF is THAT all about ey, what? Shrugs:
Bloody tossers. ::)
It's a bit like all these car showrooms I have to visit in me job.
Millions spent on decorating them with all the latest gizmos and coorporate image shite, matching cups and bloody saucers, fresh skones and crumpets, FFS, I just want to buy a bloody car at the best price, not come on bloody holiday here. Banghead
Pass me a blue and white tin mug full of yer best sludge, and let's get down to business man! eveilgrin:
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I have solved the problem angel1
What problem? I hear you ask. The problem of enzyme-catalysed oxidation, otherwise known as the browning of lettuce leaves cut by a steel knife. The solution offered up by commerce and marketing was to provide a plastic knife which would not cause the oxidation and thus to promulgate (I do like that word) the manufacture, use of valuable materials, time, energy, manpower into the production of the Lettuce Knife.
What a waste of time. The real solution is far easier and requires no special equipment. It goes straight to the heart of the matter ~ 8)
Take the head of lettuce, cut by the steel knife and douse it under a cold running tap for a couple of seconds and then shake dry. The deposits left by the cutting knife will be washed down the drain. I've tried it with an Iceberg lettuce over the last few nights and no browning has occurred. Clean, fresh and crisp.
Next?
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How much time do you have on your hands noooo:
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How much time do you have on your hands noooo:
I just have curiosity in the kitchen, honest redface:
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Oh bloody 'ell Pasty. ::)
Personally speaking I just lob the lettuce into the 'utch and let nature take its course. happy088
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Oh dear, oh dear Pastis... noooo:
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Lettuce actuallty fits into the thread titla quite well don't you think?
I mean WHO can actually honestly say that it's tasty ey? WHO? Shrugs:
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Look at this way you Philistines ::)
If you were running a restaurant and determined to cut costs one of the areas you'd be looking at would be wastage. Discarding 10% of the lettuce because it's brown is waste; to reduce that waste is to increase profit .... ok? angel1
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Look at this way you Philistines ::)
If you were running a restaurant and determined to cut costs one of the areas you'd be looking at would be wastage. Discarding 10% of the lettuce because it's brown is waste; to reduce that waste is to increase profit .... ok? angel1
So... you have a new restaurant then, eh.... EH? ::)
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Look at this way you Philistines ::)
If you were running a restaurant and determined to cut costs one of the areas you'd be looking at would be wastage. Discarding 10% of the lettuce because it's brown is waste; to reduce that waste is to increase profit .... ok? angel1
Look you raging lettuce leaf, if I was running a restaurant, the menu would consist of Fray Bentos pies, chips, beans, toast, chips, full English all day and night brekky's and chips. Cake for pudding, chocolate and marzipan. cloud9:
Lettuce would be only used in the bogs to wipe bottoms on. happy088
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Look at this way you Philistines ::)
If you were running a restaurant and determined to cut costs one of the areas you'd be looking at would be wastage. Discarding 10% of the lettuce because it's brown is waste; to reduce that waste is to increase profit .... ok? angel1
Look you raging lettuce leaf, if I was running a restaurant, the menu would consist of Fray Bentos pies, chips, beans, toast, chips, full English all day and night brekky's and chips. Cake for pudding, chocolate and marzipan. cloud9:
Lettuce would be only used in the bogs to wipe bottoms on. happy088
Wot he said! ^^^^
Apart from Tarzipan obviously.... sick2:
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Look at this way you Philistines ::)
If you were running a restaurant and determined to cut costs one of the areas you'd be looking at would be wastage. Discarding 10% of the lettuce because it's brown is waste; to reduce that waste is to increase profit .... ok? angel1
Look you raging lettuce leaf, if I was running a restaurant, the menu would consist of Fray Bentos pies, chips, beans, toast, chips, full English all day and night brekky's and chips. Cake for pudding, chocolate and marzipan. cloud9:
Lettuce would be only used in the bogs to wipe bottoms on. happy088
I have never, ever been called a raging lettuce leaf happy001 happy001 Hat off to Growler for the insult of the week! happy001
As for opening a restaurant; the thought had occurred to me on several occasions 8)
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Haute Quisine char048 salad dishes no doubt, using your lettuce cutter naturally? whistle:
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Napkin: tucked in the collar or on the lap like...?
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I'm surprised Tipsy isn't in salivating over Pastis's suggestions eyes:
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I'm surprised Tipsy isn't in salivating over Pastis's suggestions eyes:
Perhaps she is bizzy like...? eyes:
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I'm surprised Tipsy isn't in salivating over Pastis's suggestions eyes:
Perhaps she is bizzy like...? eyes:
Suprised you're still in here tbh BM. eeek:
Haven't one of your mates insisted on taking you down the local taverna for a birthday bevvy at least?
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I'm surprised Tipsy isn't in salivating over Pastis's suggestions eyes:
Perhaps she is bizzy like...? eyes:
Suprised you're still in here tbh BM. eeek:
Haven't one of your mates insisted on taking you down the local taverna for a birthday bevvy at least?
No... sad24:
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Haute Quisine char048 salad dishes no doubt, using your lettuce cutter naturally? whistle:
#1. Have disproved the need for a lettuce knife QED point:
#2. Napkins: do as you please and dependent on where you are. Italians favour the neck approach eyes:
#3. I'm sure Tipsy's Francophile leanings are strictly family whistle:
And #4. Yes BM, if this were my birthday I wouldn't be able to construct a sentence let alone type it ;D
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. . if this were my birthday I wouldn't be able to construct a sentence let alone type it
Happy birthday Pastis. ;)
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. . if this were my birthday I wouldn't be able to construct a sentence let alone type it
Happy birthday Pastis. ;)
lol: surrender:
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How much time do you have on your hands noooo:
I just have curiosity in the kitchen, honest redface:
Well let her go for heavens sake you will have the police after you.
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I'm surprised Tipsy isn't in salivating over Pastis's suggestions eyes:
I was busy eating lettuce in Hampshire. cloud9:
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Oooohhhh my poor head... noooo:
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Oh dear, Good Morning, have some food, sugar and water. lol:
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Tea... cloud9:
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Good idea, I'll join you. Have a good day, I'm off to sunny Birmingham. angel1
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Good idea, I'll join you. Have a good day, I'm off to sunny Birmingham. angel1
Poor you... noooo:
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I suspect she in on the run from the law rubschin:
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Good idea, I'll join you. Have a good day, I'm off to sunny Birmingham. angel1
You're always going somewhere you, or you are actually somewhere where you weren't earlier.
Wasat all about ey? rubschin:
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Do you reckon she works on the trains perhaps...or National Express rubschin:
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HGV driver?
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If I may engage your attention once more on the subject of the humble lettuce ~ much of course depends on the type of lettuce you prefer. Personally I don't much care for iceberg and we tend to grow mixed lettuce varieties in boxes, both on the window ledge and in the garden. We sow seed over a period of time, ensuring a constant supply of new growth, and simply collect fresh leaves whenever the mood takes us.
But as I meander down memory lane to the days of my childhood, before the arrival in my life of the ubiquitous and indigestible iceberg variety of lettuce my Grandfather and my Father, allotment holders both, would grow what we knew as "Cos" lettuce and also a plain lettuce that seemed to have no particular name other than my Mother calling it the "Sandwich" lettuce. Nowadays it is sold as a "Round Lettuce". Again seed was sown to ensure constant cropping was available throughout the summer months (No Spanish imports in those days).
Anywhoo mother would always take a lettuce, fresh from the allotment, and shred it under running water. No knives were used. She would then place the shredded leaves in a tea towel and take herself into the garden and, taking care not to spray the windows, would grip the four corners of the tea towel in one hand and whirl the bundle containing lettuce leaf around her head to "spin" the water from it. I see one can now buy, from Lakeland Plastics, a device to carry out this function ..... doesn't look half as much fun.
Any leaf not consumed at the ensuing meal would be placed in a bowl of cold water with a carefully scrubbed piece of coal which she swore would ensure the continued freshness of the leaves.
With the advent of modernisation and our conversion from a coal fire to a "Magicoal" electric monstrosity (hopeless for toasting crumpets by) she preserved her piece of coal which did duty for many more summers (until she died in fact) and also got an airing on New Years Eve when it was issued to the tallest, darkest haired member of the family (me) to carry whilst performing my first footing duties at the stroke of midnight.
Sorry ~ you are undoubtedly bored rigid with all this ( I know Nick will be) but there is a wealth of fifties history in there if you care to look for it. Anyone else's mother have these little tricks?
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No ...we used to use coal for the fire lol:
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Lettuce.
Arse wipes for tree huggers.
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No ...we used to use coal for the fire lol:
And just which bit of the replacement of coal fires with an electric one did you fail to grasp? ::)
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Lettuce.
Arse wipes for tree huggers.
And I thought you used a passing rabbit whistle:
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No ...we used to use coal for the fire lol:
And just which bit of the replacement of coal fires with an electric one did you fail to grasp? ::)
I'm a gerl...it's all too technical for me whistle:
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Lettuce.
Arse wipes for tree huggers.
And I thought you used a passing rabbit whistle:
Correct. A friendly one. I'm a BEAR don't forget. cloud9:
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No ...we used to use coal for the fire lol:
Luxury, we had to use heretics.
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No ...we used to use coal for the fire lol:
Luxury, we had to use heretics.
But that was before you had bathrooms.
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Back from Birmingham and am now where I started out from. surrender:
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Oh well done ~ errr ..... where's that then?
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Worcestershire, and not off topic as it is both a strange and useless place. evil:
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Back from Birmingham and am now where I started out from. surrender:
...and tomorrow we can be expecting what/where exactly like? ::)
Would you care to text us all p'raps like, Nick style?
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No ...we used to use coal for the fire lol:
Luxury, we had to use heretics.
;D happy001 happy001
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Worcestershire, and not off topic as it is both a strange and useless place. evil:
Some of my bestest memories in all the world are from Worcestershire, Malvern to be exact. My bedroom winsow looked out over the Malvern hills, I knew winter had arrived when I looked out and saw snow on the top of the hills. cloud9:
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Worcestershire, and not off topic as it is both a strange and useless place. evil:
Some of my bestest memories in all the world are from Worcestershire, Malvern to be exact. My bedroom winsow looked out over the Malvern hills, I knew winter had arrived when I looked out and saw snow on the top of the hills. cloud9:
Just my individual preference, I am sure there are many people like yourself who like it here too. I used to live and work in Malvern and I don't think the mist lifted the whole time I was there. noooo:
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Carrying on with the theme of the thread:
I've noticed it a few times, and was following one today on a Post Office cash carrying security van.
'POLICE. PLEASE FOLLOW THIS VAN'!
Ey? How does this message actually werk in real time ey? Shrugs:
I've NEVER seen a rozzermobile following one of these vehicles, have you?
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It works because the Postman driving the vehicle is not repeat NOT permitted to open his van for anyone. So the police, if they wish to stop him, have to follow him to the nearest Crown Post Office (NOT your local sub P.O.)where a Royal Mail Official will take charge of the vehicle and contents and then the police may speak to the driver (breath test him/her, arrest him/her etc).
In my days with the Royal Mail we had a card with that message printed on it to show, through the locked window, to any policeman who tried to stop us.
Some of these signs can now, I understand, be activated to light up thus requesting the police to follow the van to the nearest Crown Post Office. This could happen, for example, if the driver was under duress (someone was pointing a gun at him etc) or if he had been requested to stop by the police.
Even for a policeman to impede or wilfully delay Her Majesty's Mail is an offence.
That is how it works.
And in answer to your last question ~ Yes I have seen a PO van being followed and indeed have been driving one that was followed.
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This is just a tatty sticker slapped on the back door that I'm referring to.
Why would a rozzer need to, or even want to follow a PO van just because of a poxy sticker. UNLESS of course he's been specifically asked to do so by H.O or whatever/whoever, cus of a reported robbery or summat? Shrugs:
Seems like a totally pointless and useless item IMO, but no doubt you'll argue the toss with me though. ::)
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OK ~ If you won't believe me read this thread ~ they sound like your sort of people.
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?f=10&t=769962
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Well that actually said a lot, but told me little tbh.
General opinion is that it's a 'deterent' seemingly.
Strange and useless sign, but that is just and mearly MY opinion.
What is 'MY sort of people' btw? rubschin:
I only go on Pistoffheads to read the classifieds. I'm not a member on the forum.
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"Pistonheads" suggests car related matters in common.
Oh and the reason that only some vans have that sign on? ~ It's because of what they carry ~other than letters and the like. Or did you suppose the money and stamps etc gets to all the sub offices by magic?
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"Pistonheads" suggests car related matters in common.
Yes, and? Shrugs:
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Water filter jugs.
I've just lobbed our fairly new one into the plastic recycling bin, as I am NOT paying £9 for a couple of lousy filters that don't (IN MY OPINION) appear to do anything other than pamper to the do gooders of society.
Mrs G has rescued it but I shall find it and re-lob it. eveilgrin:
Been drinking tap water all me life, so it can't be that bad.
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Been drinking tap water all me life, so it can't be that bad.
Quite so.
You are a beacon of health to us all. I am surprised you don't bottle it and sell it to the world.
"Growlers Sparkling Me'ill water, passed by the Bear"
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Been drinking tap water all me life, so it can't be that bad.
Quite so.
You are a beacon of health to us all. I am surprised you don't bottle it and sell it to the world.
"Growlers Sparkling Me'ill water, passed by the Bear"
lol:
Seriously though, what you lot reckon to these flamin' 'purified' water jugs then?
I personally think they are just a fantasticly profitable marketing ploy to con all these health fanatical plant pots....like Mrs G for instance. ::)
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Since you ask:
I tend to drink water liberally pre-treated with Hops and Malted Barley and I know that water has been filtered and "Burtonised".
Filtered water makes no difference to boiled water used to make a cup of tea so I wouldn't use it for that purpose.
It is generally reckoned that tap water in the Thames Water area has passed through seven other people before you drink it ~ I can see a value in filtering that if only for peace of mind.
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It is generally reckoned that tap water in the Thames Water area has passed through seven other people before you drink it ~ I can see a value in filtering that if only for peace of mind.
Living relatively near to the source of the Thames myself, I don't know what the fuss is about. whistle:
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It is generally reckoned that tap water in the Thames Water area has passed through seven other people before you drink it ~ I can see a value in filtering that if only for peace of mind.
Living relatively near to the source of the Thames myself, I don't know what the fuss is about. whistle:
First in line as usual eh?
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Since you ask:
I tend to drink water liberally pre-treated with Hops and Malted Barley and I know that water has been filtered and "Burtonised".
Filtered water makes no difference to boiled water used to make a cup of tea so I wouldn't use it for that purpose.
It is generally reckoned that tap water in the Thames Water area has passed through seven other people before you drink it ~ I can see a value in filtering that if only for peace of mind.
All water is dinosaur piss, originally like. sick2:
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Since you ask:
I tend to drink water liberally pre-treated with Hops and Malted Barley and I know that water has been filtered and "Burtonised".
Filtered water makes no difference to boiled water used to make a cup of tea so I wouldn't use it for that purpose.
It is generally reckoned that tap water in the Thames Water area has passed through seven other people before you drink it ~ I can see a value in filtering that if only for peace of mind.
All water is dinosaur piss, originally like. sick2:
I could bore the arse off you with tales of glacial melt waters which form the basis (still) of many Welsh reservoirs but I won't. whistle:
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It's all still dinosaur piss noooo:
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Been drinking tap water all me life, so it can't be that bad.
Quite so.
You are a beacon of health to us all. I am surprised you don't bottle it and sell it to the world.
"Growlers Sparkling Me'ill water, passed by the Bear"
lol:
Seriously though, what you lot reckon to these flamin' 'purified' water jugs then?
I personally think they are just a fantasticly profitable marketing ploy to con all these health fanatical plant pots....like Mrs G for instance. ::)
We used to have one here as the water is soooo freaking hard and the kettle furred up in a couple of days...
Also, the water 'main' here is a plastic pipe that snakes around the village... it is regularly dug up by developers and we get loads of sand through the pipes when they re-join them...
In the house we now have a sand filter and a reverse osmosis purification unit with UV purifier...
Even dinosaur piss doesn't get through that lot! lol:
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It's all still dinosaur piss noooo:
Nick was there all those years ago to witness it... whistle:
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Even dinosaur piss doesn't get through that lot! lol:
I do wish you'd remember to call it the "House Wine" ;)
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It is generally reckoned that tap water in the Thames Water area has passed through seven other people before you drink it ~ I can see a value in filtering that if only for peace of mind.
Living relatively near to the source of the Thames myself, I don't know what the fuss is about. whistle:
I thought it started near here? (http://www.thamesheadinn.co.uk/)
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It is generally reckoned that tap water in the Thames Water area has passed through seven other people before you drink it ~ I can see a value in filtering that if only for peace of mind.
Living relatively near to the source of the Thames myself, I don't know what the fuss is about. whistle:
I thought it started near here? (http://www.thamesheadinn.co.uk/)
Quite correct JOM.
I did say relatively to ensure it was understood I was towards the shallow end and the other five people through which the waters of the Isis have passed, are downstream from me. ;)
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Came across this little gem today - and this old thread seems an appropriate resting place . . . .
http://youtu.be/iW1Nff6jgjo (http://youtu.be/iW1Nff6jgjo)
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Came across this little gem today - and this old thread seems an appropriate resting place . . . .
http://youtu.be/iW1Nff6jgjo (http://youtu.be/iW1Nff6jgjo)
lol: lol: lol:
Love it!
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Came across this little gem today - and this old thread seems an appropriate resting place . . . .
http://youtu.be/iW1Nff6jgjo (http://youtu.be/iW1Nff6jgjo)
lol: lol: lol:
Love it!
lol: lol: lol: lol:
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Water filter jugs.
I've just lobbed our fairly new one into the plastic recycling bin, as I am NOT paying £9 for a couple of lousy filters that don't (IN MY OPINION) appear to do anything other than pamper to the do gooders of society.
Mrs G has rescued it but I shall find it and re-lob it. eveilgrin:
Been drinking tap water all me life, so it can't be that bad.
I think the benefits depend on where in the country you live and the water quality. Given South West Water's track record I probably should invest in one methinks.
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Water filter jugs.
I've just lobbed our fairly new one into the plastic recycling bin, as I am NOT paying £9 for a couple of lousy filters that don't (IN MY OPINION) appear to do anything other than pamper to the do gooders of society.
Mrs G has rescued it but I shall find it and re-lob it. eveilgrin:
Been drinking tap water all me life, so it can't be that bad.
I think the benefits depend on where in the country you live and the water quality. Given South West Water's track record I probably should invest in one methinks.
You read the whole thread! point:
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They are imho really good for taking out that horrible Chlorine taste.
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Water filter jugs.
I've just lobbed our fairly new one into the plastic recycling bin, as I am NOT paying £9 for a couple of lousy filters that don't (IN MY OPINION) appear to do anything other than pamper to the do gooders of society.
Mrs G has rescued it but I shall find it and re-lob it. eveilgrin:
Been drinking tap water all me life, so it can't be that bad.
I think the benefits depend on where in the country you live and the water quality. Given South West Water's track record I probably should invest in one methinks.
You read the whole thread! point:
No just Growler's post you bucket wearing buffoon. point:
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Water filter jugs.
I've just lobbed our fairly new one into the plastic recycling bin, as I am NOT paying £9 for a couple of lousy filters that don't (IN MY OPINION) appear to do anything other than pamper to the do gooders of society.
Mrs G has rescued it but I shall find it and re-lob it. eveilgrin:
Been drinking tap water all me life, so it can't be that bad.
I think the benefits depend on where in the country you live and the water quality. Given South West Water's track record I probably should invest in one methinks.
You read the whole thread! point:
No just Growler's post you bucket wearing buffoon. point:
Grumps of feather, or should that be fur, stick together ey? cloud9:
Bottled water. ::)
Now THERE'S a load of ole money making bollox too imo. evil:
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If the water company are working on the pipes in your area bottled water can be a godsend. I've seen water that looked as if it was filtered through a septic tank come out of the taps on more than one occasion and even if it is save to drink after being boiled there is no way in hell I'd do so. noooo:
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Water filter jugs.
I've just lobbed our fairly new one into the plastic recycling bin, as I am NOT paying £9 for a couple of lousy filters that don't (IN MY OPINION) appear to do anything other than pamper to the do gooders of society.
Mrs G has rescued it but I shall find it and re-lob it. eveilgrin:
Been drinking tap water all me life, so it can't be that bad.
I think the benefits depend on where in the country you live and the water quality. Given South West Water's track record I probably should invest in one methinks.
You read the whole thread! point:
No just Growler's post you bucket wearing buffoon. point:
Grumps of feather, or should that be fur, stick together ey? cloud9:
Bottled water. ::)
Now THERE'S a load of ole money making bollox too imo. evil:
Now that IS one of the most munny wasting, planet damaging things every invented.... noooo:
We make our own drinking water with a reverse osmosis system... strangely, even tho it is completely de-mineralised it is the best tasting water I've ever had... plus the kettle never gets full of shyte.... Thumbs:
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Water filter jugs.
I've just lobbed our fairly new one into the plastic recycling bin, as I am NOT paying £9 for a couple of lousy filters that don't (IN MY OPINION) appear to do anything other than pamper to the do gooders of society.
Mrs G has rescued it but I shall find it and re-lob it. eveilgrin:
Been drinking tap water all me life, so it can't be that bad.
I think the benefits depend on where in the country you live and the water quality. Given South West Water's track record I probably should invest in one methinks.
You read the whole thread! point:
No just Growler's post you bucket wearing buffoon. point:
Grumps of feather, or should that be fur, stick together ey? cloud9:
Bottled water. ::)
Now THERE'S a load of ole money making bollox too imo. evil:
Now that IS one of the most munny wasting, planet damaging things every invented.... noooo:
We make our own drinking water with a reverse osmosis system... strangely, even tho it is completely de-mineralised it is the best tasting water I've ever had... plus the kettle never gets full of shyte.... Thumbs:
Soft, with loads of bubbles as well. cloud9:
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