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Title: O.S maps
Post by: GROWLER on July 13, 2007, 09:34:26 PM
Talking about navigation, has anyone come across any maps from any country that can come even remotely being as good as the O.S. series?

I know I / we rant about this country of ours being shite, but I have to admit we have got something right. They are brilliant. cloud9:

Some smart arse is going to come along now and tell us that they are owned by the Gerrrrrrmans or Yanks or something aren't they? sad32:
Title: Re: O.S maps
Post by: Bar Wench on July 13, 2007, 09:38:06 PM
Ahhh there really are geeks of all varieties aren't there.  point:
Title: Re: O.S maps
Post by: GROWLER on July 13, 2007, 09:44:21 PM
Ahhh there really are geeks of all varieties aren't there.  point:

GO AWAY you annoying woman.  ::)
This is 'MANS' talk.
Have you never used an O.S map ey? Obviously not judging by your TYPICAL wummany comment. doh:
Title: Re: O.S maps
Post by: Nick on July 16, 2007, 08:58:16 AM
I love OS map[s. I sometimes just pore over them looking for signs of ancient artefacts. On a Geog field trip once two class swots did a project to discover a minor error in the OS map of the North Yorks Moors. They were thirilled to discover an inaccurately mapped bend in a stream. We all thought they were saddos. point:
Title: Re: O.S maps
Post by: GROWLER on July 16, 2007, 09:02:01 AM
I love OS map[s. I sometimes just pore over them looking for signs of ancient artefacts.

Have you found Snoopy on there yet then? eatdrink013
Title: Re: O.S maps
Post by: Uncle Mort on July 16, 2007, 09:03:41 AM
Great maps...  When I left school (1971) I wanted to work as a surveyor with them. I had a couple of interviews but unfortunately of all things I failed the eyesight test. They used steroscopic viewers on aeiral photos and I couldn't interpret heights correctly.  cry:
Title: Re: O.S maps
Post by: GROWLER on July 16, 2007, 09:30:44 AM
Great maps...  When I left school (1971) I wanted to work as a surveyor with them. I had a couple of interviews but unfortunately of all things I failed the eyesight test. They used steroscopic viewers on aeiral photos and I couldn't interpret heights correctly.  cry:

Funnily enough, so did I.
Like Nick, I pore over them admiring the sheer hard work, detail, accuracy, and simple fascination of them. Better than reading a book imo.
Works of art.
I always purchase the copy of an area I've not visited before. Must have about 40 of them now, mostly out of date now though.
Title: Re: O.S maps
Post by: Snoopy on July 16, 2007, 10:12:11 AM
I love OS map[s. I sometimes just pore over them looking for signs of ancient artefacts. On a Geog field trip once two class swots did a project to discover a minor error in the OS map of the North Yorks Moors. They were thirilled to discover an inaccurately mapped bend in a stream. We all thought they were saddos. point:

Every map maker puts in an error or two. Just minor ones that do not effect the use of the map ~ that way they can prove copyright. I'd have expected you to know that. ::)
Title: Re: O.S maps
Post by: Nick on July 16, 2007, 11:39:47 AM
I didn't. It is something I have done with footnotes to catch out plagiarists. That Professor X in London won't be doing that again!!
Title: Re: O.S maps
Post by: Snoopy on July 16, 2007, 11:59:40 AM
I didn't. It is something I have done with footnotes to catch out plagiarists. That Professor X in London won't be doing that again!!

There are whole non existent streets in the London A to Z.
Can be quite confusing when entering the new Docklands area to discover that the A to Z tells you there is a road when it is actually a dead end footpath (a blind alley in fact).
I believe the A to Z publishers do this with all their books.

Our local Business Assoc had a map of the village done up as a postcard and it was cheaper to get someone to draw it for us than pay copyright to the OS so that's the route we took. When the proofs came through for approval we spotted two spelling errors ~ very plausible deliberate miss-spellings of local sites of interest and when we queried them we were told they were the "copyright protectors". We had paid for copyright only for 5000 postcards ~ any further use of the map could then be identified.
Title: Re: O.S maps
Post by: GROWLER on July 16, 2007, 12:16:43 PM
Reading all that Snoops, about copyright stuff, where do I stand having a map in the 'location' section on my web site and any stationery I have printed?
Can I use google earth instead of O.S., or would I still be hung drawn and quartered if they found out I was using their maps, and what's the likelyhood of them finding out anyway?
Title: Re: O.S maps
Post by: Snoopy on July 16, 2007, 01:06:56 PM
Reading all that Snoops, about copyright stuff, where do I stand having a map in the 'location' section on my web site and any stationery I have printed?
Can I use google earth instead of O.S., or would I still be hung drawn and quartered if they found out I was using their maps, and what's the likelyhood of them finding out anyway?


Either do a hand drawn sketch map of the area or pay to use one of the many on-line map services to be safe.
If you try to set an OS map on your site you will find that it will not "copy" ~ I know 'cos I tried. Somehow they have locked them so that no pay = no map. All estate agents use maps on their sites. Google local estate agents find one with a map you like and that suits your purpose and contact the people that supply the estate agents (their name and details will be on the map page) and see what deal they offer you.
Get it right and Robert will become your father's brother!
Title: Re: O.S maps
Post by: Grumpmeister on July 16, 2007, 04:02:28 PM
Reading all that Snoops, about copyright stuff, where do I stand having a map in the 'location' section on my web site and any stationery I have printed?
Can I use google earth instead of O.S., or would I still be hung drawn and quartered if they found out I was using their maps, and what's the likelyhood of them finding out anyway?


Well if you start handing out maps with the starship enterprise somewhere on them odds are they will figure out you are using goggle earth  point:
Title: Re: O.S maps
Post by: Pastis on July 16, 2007, 04:17:20 PM
Reading all that Snoops, about copyright stuff, where do I stand having a map in the 'location' section on my web site and any stationery I have printed?
Can I use google earth instead of O.S., or would I still be hung drawn and quartered if they found out I was using their maps, and what's the likelyhood of them finding out anyway?

Why not have a link to Streetfinder or Multimap with the postcode ??
Title: Re: O.S maps
Post by: Snoopy on July 16, 2007, 06:27:33 PM
Reading all that Snoops, about copyright stuff, where do I stand having a map in the 'location' section on my web site and any stationery I have printed?
Can I use google earth instead of O.S., or would I still be hung drawn and quartered if they found out I was using their maps, and what's the likelyhood of them finding out anyway?

Why not have a link to Streetfinder or Multimap with the postcode ??

That was more or less what I suggested but couldn't remember the names hence the suggestion of looking at an Estate Agent's site.
Title: Re: O.S maps
Post by: Pastis on July 16, 2007, 08:35:48 PM
 happy088

I'd give you a clap, but you've got far too many ...  sad32:
Title: Re: O.S maps
Post by: Misunderstood on July 16, 2007, 11:52:44 PM
Returning to the original posted question - if I may.

The French  'Cartegraphique Nationale'  series are a good equal to OS and are very detailed.

Actual addresses in the countryside were until recently very rare and usually annexed to the nearest town withe the address of 'Le Borg' to help you along.

The maps contain all of the country residences, farms and outbuildings and are the de facto method of finding anywhere.

I still have a substantial collection because, like you, I actually enjoy reading maps.
Title: Re: O.S maps
Post by: Barman on July 17, 2007, 02:54:06 AM
happy088

I'd give you a clap, but you've got far too many ...  sad32:
I have loads spare - you can have one of mine...  eatdrink013
Title: Re: O.S maps
Post by: Sour Puss on July 17, 2007, 03:20:05 AM
We used to find something on an OS map, like a disused windmill or the like and just go out for a drive to find it.  redface: Geoserchers now do somethng very similay with hand held GPS's, not the same as a map though.  whistle:

I have, over the years, found a number of places, on various maps, where the roads and railways just stop, dead. They enter a "Black Hole", but the least said about those the better.  When I went  to see where one of those little country roads went, I was met at a very large gate, by a man with a very large item of ordanace, which, when waved in my direction,  scared2: had the effect of making me an expert in rapid 3 point turns and I could have used Wenchies Cloak of invisability to escape  surrender:. Never have gone back to see if they are still there.  noooo:
Title: Re: O.S maps
Post by: tel on July 17, 2007, 10:53:52 AM
OS maps are very collectable and the old cloth ones fetch good prices. Unfortunately I only found this out after I had got rid of some sad32:
Title: Re: O.S maps
Post by: Barman on July 17, 2007, 10:55:42 AM
OS maps are very collectable and the old cloth ones fetch good prices. Unfortunately I only found this out after I had got rid of some sad32:
Good reason never to get rid of anything...  whistle:
Title: Re: O.S maps
Post by: tel on July 17, 2007, 10:59:30 AM
OS maps are very collectable and the old cloth ones fetch good prices. Unfortunately I only found this out after I had got rid of some sad32:
Good reason never to get rid of anything...  whistle:
Until your house starts coming apart at the seams
Title: Re: O.S maps
Post by: Barman on July 17, 2007, 11:03:58 AM
OS maps are very collectable and the old cloth ones fetch good prices. Unfortunately I only found this out after I had got rid of some sad32:
Good reason never to get rid of anything...  whistle:
Until your house starts coming apart at the seams
Time to move...  whistle:
Title: Re: O.S maps
Post by: tel on July 17, 2007, 11:22:11 AM
I bought a repro mid 1800's OS map last year. Covers the part of Surrey where my ancestors came from, but also just about covers the are where I live now. Very strange to look at place names that no longer exist.
Title: Re: O.S maps
Post by: Barman on July 17, 2007, 12:32:31 PM
I bought a repro mid 1800's OS map last year. Covers the part of Surrey where my ancestors came from, but also just about covers the are where I live now. Very strange to look at place names that no longer exist.
Stolen prolly...   whistle:
Title: Re: O.S maps
Post by: Darwins Selection on July 26, 2007, 01:02:22 PM
I bought a repro mid 1800's OS map last year. Covers the part of Surrey where my ancestors came from, but also just about covers the are where I live now. Very strange to look at place names that no longer exist.
Dorking?
Title: Re: O.S maps
Post by: Pastis on July 26, 2007, 07:24:47 PM
Are you using that as a verb?  eeek:
Title: Re: O.S maps
Post by: Bar Wench on July 27, 2007, 07:34:45 AM
OS maps are very collectable and the old cloth ones fetch good prices. Unfortunately I only found this out after I had got rid of some sad32:
Good reason never to get rid of anything...  whistle:
Until your house starts coming apart at the seams
Time to move...  whistle:

It is NEVER time to get rid of stuff!!!  eeek:
Title: Re: O.S maps
Post by: Barman on July 27, 2007, 08:56:52 AM
OS maps are very collectable and the old cloth ones fetch good prices. Unfortunately I only found this out after I had got rid of some sad32:
Good reason never to get rid of anything...  whistle:
Until your house starts coming apart at the seams
Time to move...  whistle:

It is NEVER time to get rid of stuff!!!  eeek:
Agreed!  happy088
Title: Re: O.S maps
Post by: Darwins Selection on July 27, 2007, 09:46:06 AM
Are you using that as a verb?  eeek:
An adverb actually.

"This dorking town ain't big enough for the two of us"
Title: Re: O.S maps
Post by: Bar Wench on July 27, 2007, 10:13:15 AM
Dorking isn't like that!  eeek:
Title: Re: O.S maps
Post by: tel on July 27, 2007, 10:27:34 AM
Well, the R. Mole is nice.
Title: Re: O.S maps
Post by: Darwins Selection on July 27, 2007, 10:43:52 AM
Well, the R. Mole is nice.

And the L. Mole?

Banished or ravaged by dogs I wouldn't wonder.
Title: Re: O.S maps
Post by: Marley's Ghost (Imbiber of Spirits) on July 27, 2007, 12:09:06 PM
Well, the R. Mole is nice.

So, Dorking is a jumper or cardigan then. In which case, what about the Neck Ole?
Title: Re: O.S maps
Post by: Snoopy on July 27, 2007, 12:11:08 PM
Well, the R. Mole is nice.

So, Dorking is a jumper or cardigan then. In which case, what about the Neck Ole?

Shome Mishtake Shurely..... Don't you mean the 'ead ole?
Title: Re: O.S maps
Post by: tel on July 27, 2007, 12:13:14 PM
If it's Dorking then it has to be the Pudding Hole (local knowledge helps)