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Come Inside... => Petrol/Diesel/Red Diesel/Aviation Fuel Head Zone => Topic started by: GROWLER on July 25, 2007, 11:45:05 AM
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More like a bloody scam than a scheme ffs. evil:
Did you know for instance, that a 16 year old can learn to drive if he/she is on the scheme, everything bar patrol/diesel paid for...including a guarenteed eye watering insurance premium?
Did you also know that a motobilty customer... who is 'alledgedly' disabled, only some it seems are 'playing the system' shock and horror eeek:...can now get their fat lazy arses into a 20+k Mazda RX8 sports car for about ?500 deposit I think he said!!! eeek:
I appreciate that some customers are genuinely disabled and worthy, but my my bessy mate who works as the main 'Motobilty adviser' for a main franchised dealer, assures me that many are not.
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Mazda RX8!! I can't even even get into one of those! What sort of bad back have they got? ::)
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its time anyone wanting a car on mobility was given one of those little pale blue spastic chariots like they used to have. ( Often seen by the side of football pitches in the 70's )
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Mazda RX8!! I can't even even get into one of those! What sort of bad back have they got? ::)
My sentiments entirely Degs.
Most motobility customers are classed as disabled by virtue of the fact that they find it difficult getting around (the whole point of the scheme I thought)....bad back, dodgy legs etc, so how in gods name can these same people be expected to stoop right down and manouver themselves into one of them, or possibly even more difficult and also on the scheme for a very minimal deposit, an MX5?
I had to work on one recently, and had to whistle on of the mechanics over to help me out.
I'd still have one mind. ;)
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My Motability (pauses to let you all blush) vehicle is a Citroen Picasso. Hope that meets with your approval.
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its time anyone wanting a car on mobility was given one of those little pale blue spastic chariots like they used to have. ( Often seen by the side of football pitches in the 70's )
Indeed?
And do you remember that if you went anywhere by train there always seemed to be another train loaded up with the bloody things? Presumably they had to make thousands and thousands of them to replace the ones that fell-over and broke on just about any gentle curve in the road?
I don?t think we should condemn every disabled person to one of those again but common sense should surely prevail on the range of vehicles allowed?
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BTW it isn't only bad backs you know. Blind people are eligible for Motability Scheme vehicles eeek:
Now that is a worry!
Yes I know they qualify so that someone else can drive them about.
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its time anyone wanting a car on mobility was given one of those little pale blue spastic chariots like they used to have. ( Often seen by the side of football pitches in the 70's )
No Begsy. They were a bloody hazard on the road, and a target for local arse wipes to tip over whilst standing at traffic lights.
The scheme should be restricted to Renault Scenic type cars, which are in fact already exceedingly popular amongst the disabled fraternity due to ease of access.
The problem with the scheme is that a disabled person can NOMINATE a driver to drive the car for them if they as the disabled person can't.
This has lead to 17 year olds driving around in fairly high performance cars virtually cost free with the occassional trip to Asda with disabled mom.
I know this happens, as I have to try and eradicate the spliff burns off the seats following jolly little trips out with their mateys.
Make my piss instantly combust. evil:
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My Motability (pauses to let you all blush) vehicle is a Citroen Picasso. Hope that meets with your approval.
Actually Snoops, they are a damned good motor. Even the Citroen mechanics reckon they are one of the best and most trouble free motors they've had for quite some time.
I had one back in 2000. Used it for work and completed 46k in just under 3 years. Never had to take it back for anything serious. Did plenty of whinging to Citroen HQ about the dire reflections of the dashboard onto the screen though, which they eventually did a darker colour change on I was pleased to note.
Sadly, the current 'old' model will be finishing shortly. The new one has far too much electrical nonsense on it.
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its time anyone wanting a car on mobility was given one of those little pale blue spastic chariots like they used to have. ( Often seen by the side of football pitches in the 70's )
No Begsy. They were a bloody hazard on the road, and a target for local arse wipes to tip over whilst standing at traffic lights.
The scheme should be restricted to Renault Scenic type cars, which are in fact already exceedingly popular amongst the disabled fraternity due to ease of access.
The problem with the scheme is that a disabled person can NOMINATE a driver to drive the car for them if they as the disabled person can't.
This has lead to 17 year olds driving around in fairly high performance cars virtually cost free with the occassional trip to Asda with disabled mom.
I know this happens, as I have to try and eradicate the spliff burns off the seats following jolly little trips out with their mateys.
Make my piss instantly combust. evil:
You are right Growler ~ the "owner" of the vehicle can nominate two drivers other than themselves. Of course it is a condition of the contract hire (for that is what it is) that the insurance covers only journeys made with or on behalf of the disabled person. Thus My wife is covered to use my car to go shopping or to take my children to school but she would be uninsured to use it to go for a night out with the girls or to go to work ~ unless I could convince the insurance company that she was actually doing so for my benefit. They keep stressing the use to which the vehicles may be put in their regular update letters to all customers and are getting quite hot about misuse. Same as Blue badges in some areas whereas other councils allow any bugger to use on. The Blue badge has the owners photograph on it and this does not show when the badge is displayed in the vehicle but traffic wardens etc can ask to see the card and mine has been checked twice recently.
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My Motability (pauses to let you all blush) vehicle is a Citroen Picasso. Hope that meets with your approval.
Actually Snoops, they are a damned good motor. Even the Citroen mechanics reckon they are one of the best and most trouble free motors they've had for quite some time.
I had one back in 2000. Used it for work and completed 46k in just under 3 years. Never had to take it back for anything serious. Did plenty of whinging to Citroen HQ about the dire reflections of the dashboard onto the screen though, which they eventually did a darker colour change on I was pleased to note.
Sadly, the current 'old' model will be finishing shortly. The new one has far too much electrical nonsense on it.
Have to say I am very pleased with mine ~ 'specially as the one I had before was a Zafira. The Zafira was OK but I never felt comfortable in it ... too van like I felt, whereas the Citroen, even with all its gadgets, is a pleasure to drive.
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My Motability (pauses to let you all blush) vehicle is a Citroen Picasso. Hope that meets with your approval.
Actually Snoops, they are a damned good motor. Even the Citroen mechanics reckon they are one of the best and most trouble free motors they've had for quite some time.
I had one back in 2000. Used it for work and completed 46k in just under 3 years. Never had to take it back for anything serious. Did plenty of whinging to Citroen HQ about the dire reflections of the dashboard onto the screen though, which they eventually did a darker colour change on I was pleased to note.
Sadly, the current 'old' model will be finishing shortly. The new one has far too much electrical nonsense on it.
Have to say I am very pleased with mine ~ 'specially as the one I had before was a Zafira. The Zafira was OK but I never felt comfortable in it ... too van like I felt, whereas the Citroen, even with all its gadgets, is a pleasure to drive.
Did the Zafira come with those two fat kids?
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My Motability (pauses to let you all blush) vehicle is a Citroen Picasso. Hope that meets with your approval.
Actually Snoops, they are a damned good motor. Even the Citroen mechanics reckon they are one of the best and most trouble free motors they've had for quite some time.
I had one back in 2000. Used it for work and completed 46k in just under 3 years. Never had to take it back for anything serious. Did plenty of whinging to Citroen HQ about the dire reflections of the dashboard onto the screen though, which they eventually did a darker colour change on I was pleased to note.
Sadly, the current 'old' model will be finishing shortly. The new one has far too much electrical nonsense on it.
Have to say I am very pleased with mine ~ 'specially as the one I had before was a Zafira. The Zafira was OK but I never felt comfortable in it ... too van like I felt, whereas the Citroen, even with all its gadgets, is a pleasure to drive.
Did the Zafira come with those two fat kids?
Indeed, and funny you should say that.
Most Zafiras DO actually have 2 fat kids fitted as standard equipment straight from the factory. eeek:
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One of the fellas in the asylum I work in has a new car, it is set up for him to drive, automatic gearbox, automatic handbrake !!!!, all computerised... trouble is, he has the mental age of a 4 year old so he cant drive it, because HE CANT DRIVE !!!!!, so we drive it, its a bloody nightmare
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My Motability (pauses to let you all blush) vehicle is a Citroen Picasso. Hope that meets with your approval.
Actually Snoops, they are a damned good motor. Even the Citroen mechanics reckon they are one of the best and most trouble free motors they've had for quite some time.
I had one back in 2000. Used it for work and completed 46k in just under 3 years. Never had to take it back for anything serious. Did plenty of whinging to Citroen HQ about the dire reflections of the dashboard onto the screen though, which they eventually did a darker colour change on I was pleased to note.
Sadly, the current 'old' model will be finishing shortly. The new one has far too much electrical nonsense on it.
Have to say I am very pleased with mine ~ 'specially as the one I had before was a Zafira. The Zafira was OK but I never felt comfortable in it ... too van like I felt, whereas the Citroen, even with all its gadgets, is a pleasure to drive.
Did the Zafira come with those two fat kids?
Please assume Yorkshire accent:
"I were married t'lass from Sheffield for twenty years. Her family spoke and behave just like those fat kids (though to be fair they were not themselves fat) but t'attitudes and t'mannerisms were exactly t'same. It were like t'mixed marriage. They dint understand me nor me them.
Back to normal southern accent ~ If those bloody kids had appeared with my car I'd have run the buggers over.
They, above all else, were what decided me to make the change. I kept seeing them in the rear view mirror shocked003
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My Motability (pauses to let you all blush) vehicle is a Citroen Picasso. Hope that meets with your approval.
Are you allowed to park it on the touchline?
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My Motability (pauses to let you all blush) vehicle is a Citroen Picasso. Hope that meets with your approval.
Are you allowed to park it on the touchline?
There is a difference between a Motor Car and a Motability Scooter/Invalid Carriage so the answer is no ~ but I do get to park right outside the ground for free. ::)
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My Motability (pauses to let you all blush) vehicle is a Citroen Picasso. Hope that meets with your approval.
Are you allowed to park it on the touchline?
There is a difference between a Motor Car and a Motability Scooter/Invalid Carriage so the answer is no ~ but I do get to park right outside the ground for free. ::)
Only teasing redface:
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I know that you old bugger happy100
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My Motability (pauses to let you all blush) vehicle is a Citroen Picasso. Hope that meets with your approval.
Are you allowed to park it on the touchline?
Only if he promises not to hurl abuse at the ref. whistle:
I have a Motability Citroen too, but it is of limited use lately because I can never find a vacant disable bay to park in and I can't walk from the 'other' bays.
Sadly, it is usually fit young women that fill the parking bays, they'll only be a 'tick'. The average 'tick' seems to last about 45 minutes. So I have got myself a scooter and so I can go more or less where I want and more importantly, take my chair with me.
Trouble with that is the amazing amount of people, not looking where they are going, just walk straight into it then try to blame me. What IS the best way of scrubbing bloodstains off plastic? ;)
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My Motability (pauses to let you all blush) vehicle is a Citroen Picasso. Hope that meets with your approval.
Are you allowed to park it on the touchline?
Only if he promises not to hurl abuse at the ref. whistle:
I have a Motability Citroen too, but it is of limited use lately because I can never find a vacant disable bay to park in and I can't walk from the 'other' bays.
Sadly, it is usually fit young women that fill the parking bays, they'll only be a 'tick'. The average 'tick' seems to last about 45 minutes. So I have got myself a scooter and so I can go more or less where I want and more importantly, take my chair with me.
Trouble with that is the amazing amount of people, not looking where they are going, just walk straight into it then try to blame me. What IS the best way of scrubbing bloodstains off plastic? ;)
Don't bother! Wear it as a badge of honour - at least it'll act as a warning to 'em!
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I've been considering one of those ~ trouble is I don't want to admit how limited my mobility is. Some days are better than others and I always use the good days as an excuse that I may get better. ::) Stupid vanity really.
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I've been considering one of those ~ trouble is I don't want to admit how limited my mobility is. Some days are better than others and I always use the good days as an excuse that I may get better. ::) Stupid vanity really.
I felt like that to start with, after all I can walk some and I felt a bit of a fraud riding around like I was crippled. But the advantage of never being stuck for somewhere to sit down won the day, I had been waiting in line at the chemist for my script and there were three chairs - occupied by a woman and her two kids plus about half a ton of toys - I was tottering on the point of collapse when one of the staff brought another out for me.
The squatters in the chairs didn't even notice anything had happened despite all the grumbling and scowls of everybody else around. Me? I am embarrassed to be needing a chair let alone demand one. cry:
So, the scooter duly arrived and now I feel quite comfortable on it and quite independent too - and it fits in the back of the car for longer trips so I get to go out more.
Trouble is... I want two now. One small one to go local and in the car and one big one to go hammering up to town without bothering with the car at all, thus saving all the aggro of trying to park.
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Thanks for that Bouncer ~ it makes me feel much better about the situation. I have thought about it overnight and decided to visit my local Shopmobility next week where I am told I can "borrow" a scooter for a day to try it out. They will, apparently, also let me borrow/hire (not sure which) a scooter for a week when I go on holiday. Since we are on hols in Dorset in October that might be a good trial to see how I get on with one. With 3 kids we do take a bit of luggage so the practicalities of carrying that plus a scooter in the car boot is one I need to resolve. The upcoming week in t'south seems an ideal opportunity.
I have been checking them out on the net this morning and the "user weight restriction" rules out the smaller ones so I think I do need to try out a couple at Shopmobility and take some advice.
Did you buy yours new? I ask because the same outfit offer recons to purchase at very low rates. Natch I have used my total Motability allowance for the Citroen so will have to fund the scooter myself thus am interested in saving by going for a recon if indeed that would represent a real saving and not just a short term cash flow easement.
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Sorry I caught something off Sicknote and spend yesterday in bed. cry:
Odd story coming up. I originally purchased a second-hand scooter in excellent nick for ?200, it was impressive BUT it was a three wheeler and I found it a bit unstable especially when mounting curbs and slopes.
A few days later, we happened to look at a community notice board and saw an ad asking to change a four wheel scooter for a three wheeler. It was just around the corner and turned out to be someone I knew slightly and he said he had bought his wife a new one but she wouldn't use it! So she tried out mine and declared she loved it. 3 wheels are more 'nippy', I tried hers and loved it and suggested we swapped for a week to try them out.
We agreed that we wanted to swap and I started wondering about the difference in value but he insisted on a straight swap so I ended up with a virtually new one with paperwork for nearly ?2000. eeek:
Anyway, as mentioned I decided I wanted a big class C one too and was looking around the shops and the prices ranged from ?2500 to about ?6000 which I thought was expensive then I came across a supplier on the net http://www.factoryoutletscooters.co.uk/index.php and found exactly what I had been looking for for ?1295 new and delivered. The local prices was ?3675 so I figure there is an enormous margin on them and to shop around.
The one I swapped for with the ?2000 tag, I could have bought there for ?650. Lesson learnt! I didn't mention it to him - I figured he probably wouldn't really want to know.
Things that matter. Some scooters are designed to snap apart easily into several bits and nest into the boot taking up very little space. range varies a lot, don't settle for less than 15 miles. Lights would be nice if you use it in the dark and plastic seats make you sweat. Group B are not to be used on the road except to cross it and they are limited to 4mph.
It is not unusual to rent them for holidays and at some national parks and wildlife parks you can rent ones that are all-terrain monsters that'll take you up mountains. eeek:
If you need any more info - ask!
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It is not unusual to rent them for holidays and at some national parks and wildlife parks you can rent ones that are all-terrain monsters that'll take you up mountains. eeek:
What a splendid image! You're not contemplating doing a Steve McQueen are you? ;)
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It is not unusual to rent them for holidays and at some national parks and wildlife parks you can rent ones that are all-terrain monsters that'll take you up mountains. eeek:
What a splendid image! You're not contemplating doing a Steve McQueen are you? ;)
No ~ but now you mention it whistle:
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No ~ but now you mention it whistle:
Go on, you know you want to... ;)
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Yes you're right...
Here's something to be going on with....
http://www.tramper.co.uk/stoppress.htm
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I am visiting the local shop mobility this coming week for some trial runs. They say they will loan me a used machine for a couple of days to see how I get on with it.
Look out Rhyl:
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I?ve been trying to find that scene from Jackass the movie where they rent a car, pain numbers on the side and enter it in a destruction derby... point:
...but I can?t. noooo:
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I?ve been trying to find that scene from Jackass the movie where they rent a car, pain numbers on the side and enter it in a destruction derby... point:
...but I can?t. noooo:
That was hysterical! Love Jackass.
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I?ve been trying to find that scene from Jackass the movie where they rent a car, pain numbers on the side and enter it in a destruction derby... point:
...but I can?t. noooo:
That was hysterical! Love Jackass.
Me too... have you seen Wild Boyz?
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I?ve been trying to find that scene from Jackass the movie where they rent a car, pain numbers on the side and enter it in a destruction derby... point:
...but I can?t. noooo:
That was hysterical! Love Jackass.
Me too... have you seen Wild Boyz?
They're Welsh, what do you think?
Funny but not as funny.
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I?ve been trying to find that scene from Jackass the movie where they rent a car, pain numbers on the side and enter it in a destruction derby... point:
...but I can?t. noooo:
That was hysterical! Love Jackass.
Me too... have you seen Wild Boyz?
They're Welsh, what do you think?
Funny but not as funny.
noooo:
You're thinking of Dirty Sanchez...
Wildboyz are Steve-O and Chris Pontius from Jackass doing a pseudo wildlife thing...
Click here (http://www.amazon.co.uk/s/ref=nb_ss_d_h_/203-6245960-6450330?initialSearch=1&url=search-alias%3Ddvd&field-keywords=wildboyz&Go.x=17&Go.y=14)
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I?ve been trying to find that scene from Jackass the movie where they rent a car, pain numbers on the side and enter it in a destruction derby... point:
...but I can?t. noooo:
That was hysterical! Love Jackass.
Me too... have you seen Wild Boyz?
They're Welsh, what do you think?
Funny but not as funny.
noooo:
You're thinking of Dirty Sanchez...
Wildboyz are Steve-O and Chris Pontius from Jackass doing a pseudo wildlife thing...
Click here (http://www.amazon.co.uk/s/ref=nb_ss_d_h_/203-6245960-6450330?initialSearch=1&url=search-alias%3Ddvd&field-keywords=wildboyz&Go.x=17&Go.y=14)
How could I confuse the two!?!?!
You are of course right!
Wildboyz!!! happy001