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I sometime think that strangling stroppy female fatties should be made legal
The other thing that struck me today listening to the wireless is this concept of a 'Racist Murder'...Surely murder is murder - when did the motive ever become relevant...? Is Racist Murder worse than normal murder?Is there ever likely to be a conviction for a black on white Racist Murder?WTF is going on?
Quote from: Barman on January 04, 2012, 04:24:47 PMThe other thing that struck me today listening to the wireless is this concept of a 'Racist Murder'...Surely murder is murder - when did the motive ever become relevant...? Is Racist Murder worse than normal murder?Is there ever likely to be a conviction for a black on white Racist Murder?WTF is going on? Are these questions you need for tomorrow........
Quote from: Barman on January 04, 2012, 04:24:47 PMThe other thing that struck me today listening to the wireless is this concept of a 'Racist Murder'...Surely murder is murder - when did the motive ever become relevant...? Is Racist Murder worse than normal murder?Is there ever likely to be a conviction for a black on white Racist Murder?WTF is going on? For that matter what about Black on Black. All Africans hate Nigerians. West Indians hate all Africans. Indian Hindus cannot abide Pakistani Muslims (and yet until 1947 they were all the same) and so it goes on. They each see the others as a different race. It goes beyond the mere "tribal".
Surely murder is murder - when did the motive ever become relevant...?
Quote from: Barman on January 04, 2012, 04:24:47 PMSurely murder is murder - when did the motive ever become relevant...? Aah, what about Crime Passionnel, eh?
Surely Creme Passionnel belongs in the restaurant
Quote from: Pastis on January 04, 2012, 04:34:45 PMQuote from: Barman on January 04, 2012, 04:24:47 PMSurely murder is murder - when did the motive ever become relevant...? Aah, what about Crime Passionnel, eh? Something planned for your next meet with Miss D...?
Quote from: Marley's Ghost (Imbiber of Spirits) on January 03, 2012, 03:43:39 PMQuote from: bodiam on January 01, 2012, 07:33:55 AMQuote from: Nick (GC First Class) on December 31, 2011, 05:37:41 PMhttp://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/tobyyoung/100125465/if-exam-boards-feel-it-necessary-to-spoon-feed-children-to-the-answers-to-gcse-ict-questions-there-really-is-no-hope-left-for-this-country/ NO !! Lilly livered Liberals and the feckin human Rights bill have Fecked this country right up. It's now all ME ME ME.Everybody is afraid to upset everybody else. The sooner a Government gets some bollocks and takes the Justice system and the HR bill by the scruff of the neck the better for everybody, but it will never happen and the country just spirals downwards and inwards, eventually to implode on itself. Happy New Year if that's what you want. Well said that man!And, when we get fully ruled joined up to the EU, we'll really be in the shite!Napoleonic Law and all that - GUILTY until YOU can PROVE you're NOT.Plod can come along and lift you, then keep you without charge for as long as they like, and there's nowt you or anyone else can do about it!I don't know about you lot, but I find that prospect frightening in the extreme!Worse still, the 'need' to prosecute the 'racist' killers of Stephen Lawrence has resulted in the removal of the Double Jeopardy law...Which means in effect that if the plod get the 'wrong' verdict in a trial they can keep having another go until they get the 'right' one....
Quote from: bodiam on January 01, 2012, 07:33:55 AMQuote from: Nick (GC First Class) on December 31, 2011, 05:37:41 PMhttp://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/tobyyoung/100125465/if-exam-boards-feel-it-necessary-to-spoon-feed-children-to-the-answers-to-gcse-ict-questions-there-really-is-no-hope-left-for-this-country/ NO !! Lilly livered Liberals and the feckin human Rights bill have Fecked this country right up. It's now all ME ME ME.Everybody is afraid to upset everybody else. The sooner a Government gets some bollocks and takes the Justice system and the HR bill by the scruff of the neck the better for everybody, but it will never happen and the country just spirals downwards and inwards, eventually to implode on itself. Happy New Year if that's what you want. Well said that man!And, when we get fully ruled joined up to the EU, we'll really be in the shite!Napoleonic Law and all that - GUILTY until YOU can PROVE you're NOT.Plod can come along and lift you, then keep you without charge for as long as they like, and there's nowt you or anyone else can do about it!I don't know about you lot, but I find that prospect frightening in the extreme!
Quote from: Nick (GC First Class) on December 31, 2011, 05:37:41 PMhttp://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/tobyyoung/100125465/if-exam-boards-feel-it-necessary-to-spoon-feed-children-to-the-answers-to-gcse-ict-questions-there-really-is-no-hope-left-for-this-country/ NO !! Lilly livered Liberals and the feckin human Rights bill have Fecked this country right up. It's now all ME ME ME.Everybody is afraid to upset everybody else. The sooner a Government gets some bollocks and takes the Justice system and the HR bill by the scruff of the neck the better for everybody, but it will never happen and the country just spirals downwards and inwards, eventually to implode on itself. Happy New Year if that's what you want.
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/tobyyoung/100125465/if-exam-boards-feel-it-necessary-to-spoon-feed-children-to-the-answers-to-gcse-ict-questions-there-really-is-no-hope-left-for-this-country/
Quote from: Barman on January 04, 2012, 07:39:54 AMQuote from: Marley's Ghost (Imbiber of Spirits) on January 03, 2012, 03:43:39 PMQuote from: bodiam on January 01, 2012, 07:33:55 AMQuote from: Nick (GC First Class) on December 31, 2011, 05:37:41 PMhttp://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/tobyyoung/100125465/if-exam-boards-feel-it-necessary-to-spoon-feed-children-to-the-answers-to-gcse-ict-questions-there-really-is-no-hope-left-for-this-country/ NO !! Lilly livered Liberals and the feckin human Rights bill have Fecked this country right up. It's now all ME ME ME.Everybody is afraid to upset everybody else. The sooner a Government gets some bollocks and takes the Justice system and the HR bill by the scruff of the neck the better for everybody, but it will never happen and the country just spirals downwards and inwards, eventually to implode on itself. Happy New Year if that's what you want. Well said that man!And, when we get fully ruled joined up to the EU, we'll really be in the shite!Napoleonic Law and all that - GUILTY until YOU can PROVE you're NOT.Plod can come along and lift you, then keep you without charge for as long as they like, and there's nowt you or anyone else can do about it!I don't know about you lot, but I find that prospect frightening in the extreme!Worse still, the 'need' to prosecute the 'racist' killers of Stephen Lawrence has resulted in the removal of the Double Jeopardy law...Which means in effect that if the plod get the 'wrong' verdict in a trial they can keep having another go until they get the 'right' one.... Sounds like the EU with voting (referenda) on treaty changes (think Eire). Be afraid, be VERY afraid!
I don't know whether the 2 guys who stand convicted of the murder of Stephen Lawrence are guilty, I suspect they may be, however the lengths that the authorities had to go to to get a conviction strikes me as being very unsafe. First the law on double jeopardy had to be removed as the accused had already been tried once and found not guilty. Excuses had to be found for the poor storage of evidence meaning that cross contamination may have (not necessarily did) occur. The accused had already been named as "guilty" by the MSM in the shape of the Daily Mail. Plus there is now an ongoing campaign to try and get to the other 3 involved. A massive and costly undercover operation was set up by the police that looks from an outsiders point of view as entrapment yet the accused were finally only convicted on 16 fibres and a speck of blood.I don't know if they were guilty, I do know that the appeals court and the lawyers are going to have a field day over this and when or if it goes up to the European Court of Justice which will sift the evidence and the trial procedures then I suspect the case might just be overturned and hefty compensation paid out.What was done here to try and get a conviction had far more to do with political correctness and a desire not to appear racist. The murders of Charlene Downes and Gavin Hopley have already proven that you need to be the right skin colour to get this sort of response from the police, the government and various other political groupings.So from my strictly jaundiced viewpoint, if this was justice, God help us all.
