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Offline Miss Creant Commander of the picklement and baking BAb(Hons)

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NHS records
« on: February 26, 2014, 12:02:16 PM »
I am in a fury about the fact that hospital medical records have already been sold off to insurance companies and am going to try and bring people to book for this.  Anyone on here know any good lawyers (normally an oxymoron I know) who would take on group cases?

Have been in discussion with OH about it on the separate matter of your medical records held by your GP's surgery and 'opting out' he sent me this link which does make it easy.

I must admit I was sitting on the fence until the hospital records palava came to light and hearing today that ATOS are getting the contract regarding the GP's surgeries just reinforced for me my belief that I have made the right decision for me in opting out.

Just another stinking barrel in a long line of stinking barrels of putrid corruption IMO. cussing: cussing:

https://www.faxyourgp.com/
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Re: NHS records
« Reply #1 on: February 26, 2014, 12:19:22 PM »
Hmmm worrying

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/10656893/Hospital-records-of-all-NHS-patients-sold-to-insurers.html

"The report by the Institute and Faculty of Actuaries details how it was able to use NHS data covering all hospital in-patient stays between 1997 and 2010 to track the medical histories of patients, identified by date of birth and postcode."

If as I suspect it's the full postcode then it doesn't take much to link a record with an identifiable person.

More like cock-up than corruption imho

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Re: NHS records
« Reply #2 on: February 26, 2014, 01:10:39 PM »
^^^Yep that is the article I read.^^^

As I said Steve a long line of stinking barrels of putrid corruption.

I am certain that what they have done must be illegal if only because of the Dr patient confidentiality thing.  The insurance companies admit that premiums have risen because they have access to information.  This is a two pronged attack on some of the most vulnerable members of society.  They may be made uninsurable, they will have to pay more for any insurance they can get.  As a consequence they may well not go to their GP when they are ill.

NHS waiting lists down.
NHS costs down.
Vast swathes of ill folks dying prematurely thus saving the 'hard working people of Britain oodles of lovely dosh.

This country is going to hell in a hand cart unless something is done about this 'moral quest' our beloved leader is on. Angry9:
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Re: NHS records
« Reply #3 on: February 26, 2014, 01:53:54 PM »
Its been a couple of years since I've done anything much regarding the Data Protection Act but as far as I remember you would have had to give permission before they can sell your details. Having said that given the patient confidentiality aspect I can't see any way that they could legally sell the information on.

It could be worth contacting the Information Commissioner to make a complaint as well as if it turns out this has been done en mass and without consent then they are obligated to investigate unless some kind of loophole has been put in place.   
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Re: NHS records
« Reply #4 on: February 26, 2014, 02:05:31 PM »
The other tactic would be one of those on line petitions

The wording would have to be clever to forestall the counter claim that the records have not been passed on in an identifiable manner

Suggest something like postcode information will be limited to 4 characters.

But I cannot see the evidence of corruption here
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Re: NHS records
« Reply #5 on: February 26, 2014, 02:10:49 PM »
There is a way to find out what has been passed on. Send an official data request for all information held concerning you to your local NHS trust and your insurer, they may charge for the prodecure but they have to comply by law. Then its just a case of comparing both sets of data and disregarding anything that was obviously obtained legitimately.
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Re: NHS records
« Reply #6 on: February 26, 2014, 04:41:32 PM »
It is the definition of "personal data" that is the important part. If it contains something obvious like your name or address then that is easily dealt with. "Statistical" data is quite different and the act does really not take into account the collation and cross-referencing/matching of data from different sources (obtained legally) to produce indentifiable results.

How many people opt out on the electoral roll or go ex-directory (which in the case of 192 never worked anyway) or opt out from all the different options on the interweb?
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