Vaccine passports

[Nick]

What say we?

I don't see a problem. We will need them to travel abroad for holidays.  The vaccination is vountary and I don't see why the passport should not also be voluntary. Freedom of choice and all that.

BUT it works both ways. Why not let businesses of any kind also vuluntarily decide if they wish to let you onto their premises, including demanding a v passport if they choose?  If my local pub or hairdresser or whatever says, our house, our rules, who am I to question that?

[Uncle Mort]

Thin edge of the wedge I say. Travelling abroad is totally different from going about your daily life in your own country. I certainly don't expect to show my 'papers' whilst going about my business.

[Steve]

What say we?

I don't see a problem. We will need them to travel abroad for holidays.  The vaccination is vountary and I don't see why the passport should not also be voluntary. Freedom of choice and all that.

BUT it works both ways. Why not let businesses of any kind also vuluntarily decide if they wish to let you onto their premises, including demanding a v passport if they choose?  If my local pub or hairdresser or whatever says, our house, our rules, who am I to question that?

Let the market decide but if we know other countries are going to demand some sort of verifiable passport then yes the government should look at making it possible - for a price just as with normal passports

[The Moan Ranger]

Thin edge of the wedge I say. Travelling abroad is totally different from going about your daily life in your own country. I certainly don't expect to show my 'papers' whilst going about my business.

 

[Uncle Mort]

What say we?

I don't see a problem. We will need them to travel abroad for holidays.  The vaccination is vountary and I don't see why the passport should not also be voluntary. Freedom of choice and all that.

BUT it works both ways. Why not let businesses of any kind also vuluntarily decide if they wish to let you onto their premises, including demanding a v passport if they choose?  If my local pub or hairdresser or whatever says, our house, our rules, who am I to question that?

Let the market decide but if we know other countries are going to demand some sort of verifiable passport then yes the government should look at making it possible - for a price just as with normal passports

Why an additional passport? Surely an 'official' stamp in your current passport would suffice.

[Steve]

What say we?

I don't see a problem. We will need them to travel abroad for holidays.  The vaccination is vountary and I don't see why the passport should not also be voluntary. Freedom of choice and all that.

BUT it works both ways. Why not let businesses of any kind also vuluntarily decide if they wish to let you onto their premises, including demanding a v passport if they choose?  If my local pub or hairdresser or whatever says, our house, our rules, who am I to question that?

Let the market decide but if we know other countries are going to demand some sort of verifiable passport then yes the government should look at making it possible - for a price just as with normal passports

Why an additional passport? Surely an 'official' stamp in your current passport would suffice.

Stamps are so easily forged.  I know this from watching Colditz a long long time ago.
 

[Miss Demeanour]

It's just not going to be practical for small businesses, pubs etc and it will just be like the whole face mask debacle  - there will be so many people with exemptions or excuses .

As for large events I am sure they will bring some app in , or add an extra feature to the track and trace one , to show if you have had a test or vaccination  that should be easy to  verify.

[Barman]

Thin edge of the wedge I say. Travelling abroad is totally different from going about your daily life in your own country. I certainly don't expect to show my 'papers' whilst going about my business.

I'm with Uncle on this. It is a pointless, intrusive scheme and we should have nothing to do with it...

Good to see that Gove got an absolute kicking below the line of his Telegraph article. 

It's time to explore the need for Covid certification

[The Moan Ranger]

From the utterly wonderful Legiron..

"With apologies to Paul Simon and Art Garfunkel

The sound of science

Hello needle my old friend
You’ve come to jab in me again
You bring diseases slowly creeping
Through my veins when I am sleeping
The infections that you planted in my brain
Still remain
Within the sound of ‘science’

Through restless nights I sweat alone
Soaking sheets, chilled to the bone
By the cold light of a bedside lamp
I rest my head upon a pillow damp
Then my mind was stabbed by a migraine fast and tight
With fairy lights
That torched the sound of ‘science’

And on the internet I saw
Ten thousand people maybe more
People telling of reactions
People dying, people fractured
People writing blogs, that Google never shared
And no one dared
Question the sound of ‘science’.

Fools said I, you do not know
Science is all money now
You won’t hear me, I can’t teach you
You’re too far away to reach you
All I say, like tinfoil hats proclaim
Just fades out in the world of ‘science’

And the people bowed and prayed
To the Covid god they made
And the needle had no warning
Of the harm that it was causing
And the insert had nothing to tell us of the coming harm
Jabbed in your arm
In the name of Government ‘science’."

 

[Uncle Mort]

From the utterly wonderful Legiron..

He's a prat and certainly "jumped the shark" with his Ramping up wars post.

[Steve]

From the utterly wonderful Legiron..

He's a prat and certainly "jumped the shark" with his Ramping up wars post.

Yep

[Barman]

From the utterly wonderful Legiron..

"With apologies to Paul Simon and Art Garfunkel

The sound of science

Hello needle my old friend
You’ve come to jab in me again
You bring diseases slowly creeping
Through my veins when I am sleeping
The infections that you planted in my brain
Still remain
Within the sound of ‘science’

Through restless nights I sweat alone
Soaking sheets, chilled to the bone
By the cold light of a bedside lamp
I rest my head upon a pillow damp
Then my mind was stabbed by a migraine fast and tight
With fairy lights
That torched the sound of ‘science’

And on the internet I saw
Ten thousand people maybe more
People telling of reactions
People dying, people fractured
People writing blogs, that Google never shared
And no one dared
Question the sound of ‘science’.

Fools said I, you do not know
Science is all money now
You won’t hear me, I can’t teach you
You’re too far away to reach you
All I say, like tinfoil hats proclaim
Just fades out in the world of ‘science’

And the people bowed and prayed
To the Covid god they made
And the needle had no warning
Of the harm that it was causing
And the insert had nothing to tell us of the coming harm
Jabbed in your arm
In the name of Government ‘science’."

 

[Uncle Mort]

Legiron's finally lost it   

From Farm to… Pharm

They'll be coming to take him away.


(that'll set the conspiracy theorists off)

[Steve]

Legiron's finally lost it   

From Farm to… Pharm

They'll be coming to take him away.


(that'll set the conspiracy theorists off)

Yep a total piece of  by legiron.