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Offline Grumpmeister

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How the hell does this not justify life imprisonment????
« on: July 23, 2008, 12:07:14 PM »
Let me see if I understand the facts here. Bieber is a former US marine who shot a policeman in the head at point blank range despite the officer pleading for his life? And the appeals court don't think this justifies a whole life prison sentence?

Of course it justifies an entire life sentence you bleedin moron, this wasnt the case of someone accidentally shooting an officer. This was a premeditated act by a trained killer who ignored his victim begging for his life.

The appeals court says that to it amounts to a breach of Article 3 of the European Convention on Human Rights, which states that no-one shall be subjected to "inhuman or degrading treatment or punishment".  And what about the inhuman treatment of his victim, or doesnt his last few moments of life seeing this animal pointing a gun at him and knowing he was going to die count.  cussing:

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A former US marine who murdered a policeman has won an appeal against his "whole life" prison sentence.

David Bieber shot Pc Ian Broadhurst in the head at point blank range in Leeds on Boxing Day 2003, despite the officer pleading for his life.

The Court of Appeal said that the facts of Bieber's case, "horrifying though they were", did not justify a "life means life" sentence.

The American, 42, was told he will now serve a minimum of 37 years in jail.

Three judges headed by the Lord Chief Justice, Lord Phillips, rejected an argument by Bieber's defence lawyers that whole-life jail terms in principle amounted to a breach of Article 3 of the European Convention on Human Rights, which states that no-one shall be subjected to "inhuman or degrading treatment or punishment".

Attempted murder

In 2004 Bieber was found guilty by a jury at Newcastle Crown Court of the murder of Pc Broadhurst, 34.

He was also convicted of the attempted murders of Pc Broadhurst's colleagues, Pc Neil Roper and Pc James Banks. 
The policeman was shot dead on Boxing Day 2003

He became one of only 25 people at the time to have been given a whole-life sentence in England and Wales.

In October 2006, the Court of Appeal rejected Bieber's appeal against his convictions, saying the evidence against him was "overwhelming".

Lord Phillips, sitting with Mr Justice Pitchford and Mrs Justice Dobbs, said Bieber's lawyers had argued that an irreducible life sentence, with no prospect of release and regardless of any progress made by the prisoner towards rehabilitation, amounted to inhuman treatment.

But the judge said the European Court of Human Rights in Strasbourg had so far not held that an irreducible life sentence breached Article 3, although its approach to the issue might change in future.

In any event, he said a whole life term should not be regarded as irreducible because the Home Secretary had the power to order a prisoner's release on compassionate grounds - for instance, when an inmate was terminally ill or incapacitated.
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Re: How the hell does this not justify life imprisonment????
« Reply #1 on: July 23, 2008, 12:56:21 PM »
Lawyers will argue anything if they are paid enough ~ the rights and wrongs of their arguments do not enter into it.
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