Blame the victim, absolutely bleedin brilliant!

[Grumpmeister]

So you are saying that if a 10 year old dresses as if she is 16 then she is fair game? How the hell can you blame a child for something like this, the adult had free will and the option to walk away but he didnt. He chose his actions and should be punished accordingly not let off with a sentence that is an insult.

Children's charities have reacted with anger after a window cleaner who raped a 10-year-old girl was jailed for two years.
Keith Fenn, 24, will be free in four months after a judge said the girl had appeared older than her actual age.

The charity Kidscape accused Judge Julian Hall of "trying to find excuses" and said a child must never be blamed.

Attorney General Lord Goldsmith is to decide whether the sentence should be appealed as 'unduly lenient'.

Judge Hall had said that the sentencing had been the most difficult decision he had ever made, but the girl had appeared to be 16.

She was attacked by Fenn and an accomplice in a park in Henley-on-Thames, South Oxfordshire on 14 October last year.

Moral dilemma

Oxford Crown Court heard that Fenn removed her clothes and raped her, while an accomplice, Darren Wright, 34, took her home and sexually assaulted her.

The judge said in sentencing he faced a moral dilemma as the fact they had sex within 45 minutes of meeting was an absolute crime.

But he said the girl had dressed provocatively and looked like she was 16.

He gave Fenn concurrent two-year and 18-month sentences, but he will be free in eight weeks after serving eight months in prison awaiting sentence.

Wright is already free as Judge Hall had already given him a nine-month sentence for inciting the girl to perform a sex act.

'Back to the 1950s'

Dr Michele Elliott, director of Kidscape said the decision had left her "lost for words".

She said: "It takes us back to the 1950s when the victim was blamed if they were dressed provocatively.

"No one in my opinion could mistake a 10-year-old child, even dressed up, for a 16-year-old. They are just trying very hard to find excuses.

"You can never blame a child victim for sexual abuse when excusing the abuser of any kind of abuse."

The NSPCC added: "There is no excuse for having sex with a 10-year-old, no matter how she dresses."

A spokesman for Lord Goldsmith said he had asked the Crown Prosecution Service to send him the papers on the case, and would consider whether or not to refer the sentence to the Court of Appeal as "unduly lenient".

He has 28 days to make a decision.

[Shy Talk]

So you are saying that if a 10 year old dresses as if she is 16 then she is fair game? How the hell can you blame a child for something like this, the adult had free will and the option to walk away but he didnt. He chose his actions and should be punished accordingly not let off with a sentence that is an insult.

Children's charities have reacted with anger after a window cleaner who raped a 10-year-old girl was jailed for two years.
Keith Fenn, 24, will be free in four months after a judge said the girl had appeared older than her actual age.

The charity Kidscape accused Judge Julian Hall of "trying to find excuses" and said a child must never be blamed.

Attorney General Lord Goldsmith is to decide whether the sentence should be appealed as 'unduly lenient'.

Judge Hall had said that the sentencing had been the most difficult decision he had ever made, but the girl had appeared to be 16.

She was attacked by Fenn and an accomplice in a park in Henley-on-Thames, South Oxfordshire on 14 October last year.

Moral dilemma

Oxford Crown Court heard that Fenn removed her clothes and raped her, while an accomplice, Darren Wright, 34, took her home and sexually assaulted her.

The judge said in sentencing he faced a moral dilemma as the fact they had sex within 45 minutes of meeting was an absolute crime.

But he said the girl had dressed provocatively and looked like she was 16.

He gave Fenn concurrent two-year and 18-month sentences, but he will be free in eight weeks after serving eight months in prison awaiting sentence.

Wright is already free as Judge Hall had already given him a nine-month sentence for inciting the girl to perform a sex act.

'Back to the 1950s'

Dr Michele Elliott, director of Kidscape said the decision had left her "lost for words".

She said: "It takes us back to the 1950s when the victim was blamed if they were dressed provocatively.

"No one in my opinion could mistake a 10-year-old child, even dressed up, for a 16-year-old. They are just trying very hard to find excuses.

"You can never blame a child victim for sexual abuse when excusing the abuser of any kind of abuse."

The NSPCC added: "There is no excuse for having sex with a 10-year-old, no matter how she dresses."

A spokesman for Lord Goldsmith said he had asked the Crown Prosecution Service to send him the papers on the case, and would consider whether or not to refer the sentence to the Court of Appeal as "unduly lenient".

He has 28 days to make a decision.

 she was 10 but he thought she was 16 ??? Surely he must have wondered where her tits went 

[Barman]

If I read it correctly, he raped the girl??? 

Her age is somewhat immaterial IMHO. Rape should be life inside ? no excuses. 

Perhaps the article is wrong but is it is agreed that rape was committed this is a ludicrously and criminally short sentence.

[Anise]

If I read it correctly, he raped the girl??? 

Her age is somewhat immaterial IMHO. Rape should be life inside – no excuses. 

Perhaps the article is wrong but is it is agreed that rape was committed this is a ludicrously and criminally short sentence.

Rape should be life without testicles surely?

[Darwins Selection]

If I read it correctly, he raped the girl??? 

Her age is somewhat immaterial IMHO. Rape should be life inside ? no excuses. 

Perhaps the article is wrong but is it is agreed that rape was committed this is a ludicrously and criminally short sentence.

Rape should be life without testicles surely?

I would be happy to see the testicles kept alive as a warning to others, so long as they incinerate the rest.

[Grumpmeister]

The thing that gets me about this case is not that the defendant has tried to excuse his actions by saying she looked older but that the judge has been lenient on him for that excuse. The judge in question should also be up for gross misconduct.

[Snoopy]

The judge probably belongs to the same Lodge as the willy waver that got off last week.

[Grumpmeister]

I want to see this judge defrocked, disbarred or whatever it is they do when they kick them out.

[Snoopy]

I want to see this judge defrocked, disbarred or whatever it is they do when they kick them out.

Y'Know I don't think they can actually do that. They have to wait for the Judge (any judge as far as I know) to "resign". I suspect they could apply a push in the right direction but there is this "assumption of honour" as among politicians etc. Shakespeare got it right with his:
"For Brutus is an honourable man;
So are they all, all honourable men--"

[Lizzie]

Perhaps the judge was dreaming he got to her first, then thought "there but for the grace of god go I".

[Mr Happy]

If I read it correctly, he raped the girl??? 

Her age is somewhat immaterial IMHO. Rape should be life inside ? no excuses. 

Perhaps the article is wrong but is it is agreed that rape was committed this is a ludicrously and criminally short sentence.

Rape should be life without testicles surely?

It's a serious crime but turn him into a woman, harsh!