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BFPO madness.
« on: December 10, 2007, 12:51:26 PM »
Suicide bombers, taliban rebels, RPG attacks, roadside bombs and the army has to defuse christmas crackers before they can be sent to the troops in Afghanistan? Bloody lunacy, especially as the CAA classes them as safe to transport when they are complete, only listing them as dangerous when the snaps are transported seperately.  Banghead

Surely the military have transported ammunition by air to front line troops in the past, and I cant see the average cracker snap having more explosive power than a bullet. So why not use the same safety precautions for the crackers as they would for ammunition.

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Hundreds of crackers due to be sent to soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan had to be defused after it was discovered they were classed as explosives.
Major Iain Dalziel-Job, 60, of the Scots Guards Association, learned of the regulation as he prepared to send 650 Christmas parcels to the soldiers.

The British Forces Post Office website defines Christmas cracker snaps as explosives, banned on RAF aircraft.

There are no such rules for passenger aeroplanes.

Major Dalziel-Job, from Rosyth, had arranged for the festive packages to be taken by truck from Edinburgh to London on Tuesday before being handed over to the BFPO and then flown out from Brize Norton.

He told The Sunday Post newspaper: "Every cracker has got to have the snap taken out of it because the RAF won't fly them with the bit still in.

"It's quite tricky to get them out. It took us two hours to go through them all.

"The soldiers will just have to go 'bang' themselves when they pull them."

A Ministry of Defence spokesman told the newspaper: "The safety of our aircraft and personnel is paramount.

"Large numbers of Christmas crackers are classified as dangerous air cargo and therefore require special handling."

Civil Aviation Authority rules, which govern passenger aircraft, state that Christmas crackers which are complete and in their retail packaging do not have sufficient explosive in the "snap" to be regarded as dangerous.

It is only when the "snaps" are transported on their own that they are treated as dangerous goods.

The Scots Guards Association had already had its plans to include alcohol miniatures in the packages scuppered due to alcohol being forbidden in Islamic countries.
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Re: BFPO madness.
« Reply #1 on: December 10, 2007, 12:55:49 PM »


I suggest a new logo for the Sunday Post.

They are talking bollox as usual and everyone knows that you can't send alcohol into a Muslim country
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Re: BFPO madness.
« Reply #2 on: December 10, 2007, 12:58:50 PM »
If I understand correctly you cant consume alcohol made from the grape of the grain in islamic countries but what about mead?
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Re: BFPO madness.
« Reply #3 on: December 10, 2007, 01:02:24 PM »
Even if true I can't see a bunch of hairy arsed porridge wogs thanking anyone for a "wee bottle o' mead".

But I think you will find it apples to all alcohol.
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Re: BFPO madness.
« Reply #4 on: December 10, 2007, 01:08:32 PM »
I think you will find it apples to all alcohol.


Not the cider as well?  sad24:
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Re: BFPO madness.
« Reply #5 on: December 10, 2007, 01:22:33 PM »
Bugger   Banghead
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Re: BFPO madness.
« Reply #6 on: December 10, 2007, 08:55:31 PM »
I believe the story is Growler that if they go astray they can be use as initiators in black powder IED's But you are right there should be no real logistic problem in treating them as live and shipping as such.

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Re: BFPO madness.
« Reply #7 on: December 11, 2007, 07:45:31 AM »


I suggest a new logo for the Sunday Post.

They are talking bollox as usual and everyone knows that you can't send alcohol into a Muslim country
We've sent tanks, troops, rockets, bombers and general death and destruction to the whole country...

... I don't see how a few Glenfiddich miniatures are going to tip the balance really.  noooo:
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Re: BFPO madness.
« Reply #8 on: December 11, 2007, 09:51:07 AM »


I suggest a new logo for the Sunday Post.

They are talking bollox as usual and everyone knows that you can't send alcohol into a Muslim country
We've sent tanks, troops, rockets, bombers and general death and destruction to the whole country...

... I don't see how a few Glenfiddich miniatures are going to tip the balance really.  noooo:

Because we fly the stuff in via so called allied countries ie Saudi, Turkey and the like. We do not fly direct to Afghanistan or Iraq. Our Muslim Allies do not like to be used as staging posts for alcohol and once it lands in their country they have every right to carry out Customs searches of the cargoes. So speaks the voice of RAF Transport Command experience.
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Re: BFPO madness.
« Reply #9 on: December 11, 2007, 09:57:28 AM »


I suggest a new logo for the Sunday Post.

They are talking bollox as usual and everyone knows that you can't send alcohol into a Muslim country
We've sent tanks, troops, rockets, bombers and general death and destruction to the whole country...

... I don't see how a few Glenfiddich miniatures are going to tip the balance really.  noooo:

Because we fly the stuff in via so called allied countries ie Saudi, Turkey and the like. We do not fly direct to Afghanistan or Iraq. Our Muslim Allies do not like to be used as staging posts for alcohol and once it lands in their country they have every right to carry out Customs searches of the cargoes. So speaks the voice of RAF Transport Command experience.
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