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Offline Grumpmeister

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Of course it isnt bleedin justified
« on: September 25, 2008, 12:48:59 PM »
And just what side effects are you talking about? The possibility that they may go off and sleep around? Newsflash, changes are they are doing that anyway.

No moral concerns, yeah right. Well try this one as a moral concern, the HPV virus is responsible for almost 3 quarters of cases of cervical cancer. What's the moral standpoint of banning vaccination against that virus at your school, therefore increasing the chances of them being exposed to the virus?  cussing:

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A Roman Catholic school's decision to prevent girls receiving the cervical cancer vaccine on its premises was "disappointing", a health boss said.

Governors at St Monica's High School in Prestwich, Greater Manchester, said they had concerns about the possible side effects of the injections.

The head teacher of the school said he could not comment on the decision.

Dr Peter Elton, the borough's director of public health, said the governors' concerns were "not justified".

The vaccine gives immunity to key strains of the sexually-transmitted Human Papilloma Virus (HPV), responsible for 70% of cervical cancers. Experts believe it could save hundreds of lives in the UK each year.

It is given in a course of three injections over six months and is being offered to all year-eight girls.

Dr Elton said schools were the best places to immunise children because when parents have to make special arrangements uptake was often lower.

Experts believe vaccinating against HPV could save hundreds of lives
"It is very important that we have the maximum number of children vaccinated against HPV, that all girls get vaccinated," he said.

"The way we can get the most done is by having them at school, so we are naturally disappointed when we can't go into a school to vaccinate girls.

"They [the governors] recognise it as a very effective vaccine but they have these other concerns and we think they are not justified."

Governors at St Monica's - which has 1,200 pupils - have sent a letter to parents outlining concerns about possible side effects.

It states: "We do not believe that school is the right place for the three injections to be administered.

"Therefore, governors have taken the decision not to allow the school premises to be used for this programme."

Although some religious groups are opposed to the vaccine because of fears it may encourage promiscuity, the governors make no moral objection to the programme.

In its advice on the HPV vaccine, the Department of Health said it had undergone rigorous safety testing as part of the licensing process.
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Re: Of course it isnt bleedin justified
« Reply #1 on: September 25, 2008, 01:04:00 PM »
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Dr Elton said schools were the best places to immunise children because when parents have to make special arrangements uptake was often lower.

Or put it another way "The State will get your child this way ~ and you will have little choice in the matter"

Of course one can always "opt out" but schools have been known to ignore that and give the kids jabs anyway. A Southampton School did that to my two oldest some years ago. Claimed the children didn't say anything when they were told to line up with all the others for vaccination. What child would?
Thing was that we had already had them vaccinated a year previously by our GP.

I still have the correspondence that ensued. End result was a written apology from Hampshire's Chief Medical Officer, the disciplining of the School Head and the School Nurse transferred to other duties. eveilgrin:
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Re: Of course it isnt bleedin justified
« Reply #2 on: September 25, 2008, 01:29:20 PM »
I have an interest in this as my daughter is due her vaccinations some time soon. I have spoken to my local practice nurse and looked up the drug on the web. There are reported side effects but generally at a lower level than most vaccines. Fainting seems to be the most likely and I believe there is a recommendation to remain seated for a while after the jab.

Neither I, or her mother have a problem with the vaccination. We certainly don't expect her moral behaviour to change afterwards.

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Re: Of course it isnt bleedin justified
« Reply #3 on: September 25, 2008, 01:31:46 PM »
My daughter is 15 so will not be included in this anyway.
We would have no objections but realisitically it'll be too late to be any use by the time they get to her.
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Re: Of course it isnt bleedin justified
« Reply #4 on: September 25, 2008, 03:36:38 PM »
they just want them to all join the nunnery! madness yet again! i would have no problems my daughter having the vacc when she was that age. oh well..
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Re: Of course it isnt bleedin justified
« Reply #5 on: September 25, 2008, 03:40:23 PM »
i would have no problems my daughter having it
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Re: Of course it isnt bleedin justified
« Reply #6 on: September 25, 2008, 04:00:26 PM »
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Re: Of course it isnt bleedin justified
« Reply #8 on: September 25, 2008, 04:16:42 PM »
i would have no problems my daughter having it
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Re: Of course it isnt bleedin justified
« Reply #9 on: September 25, 2008, 06:09:55 PM »
i would have no problems my daughter having it
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why turn a serious subject into smut, i have re worded the post so others wil wonder what you on about.. noooo:
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Re: Of course it isnt bleedin justified
« Reply #10 on: September 25, 2008, 06:36:04 PM »
i would have no problems my daughter having it
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why turn a serious subject into smut, i have re worded the post so others wil wonder what you on about.. noooo:
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Re: Of course it isnt bleedin justified
« Reply #11 on: September 25, 2008, 06:50:53 PM »
We always wonder what BM is on about...