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Sour Puss

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Re: Lost discs
« Reply #30 on: November 21, 2007, 11:46:05 PM »
Found them!


Nope gone now!!!

HMRC data breach fiasco disks appear on eBay

At least somebody has a sense of humour about the absolute farce of the UK Government losing discs holding the personal details of 25 million UK citizens. Including their bank account details.

The discs briefly appeared on eBay listed as "Two CD-R's - Have data on them - some sort of database". I think it's a really nice touch that "The seller ended this listing early because the item was lost or broken."

I suppose you've got to laugh, really. Or maybe cry. That Her Majesty's Revenue and Customs managed to compromise the names, addresses and national insurance numbers of half the people in the country is compounded by the fact that bank and building society details were linked to those people. What was HMRC thinking? Obviously not much.

It really calls into doubt the competence of the government, or anyone else, to administer the ID Cards Scheme. Honestly, does the government really expect us to trust it with all of our personal information, as well as our biometrics, handily kept in one place -- the National Identity Register?

Public trust over the data-handling capabilities of the government will rightly be shaken over the HMRC fiasco, and I hope it will get people questioning about whether ID Cards will actually be secure, and necessary.


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Re: Lost discs
« Reply #31 on: November 22, 2007, 01:07:57 AM »
Nonsense, the government is doing a fine job.

They have managed to smash all known failure targets and have comfortably exceeded them to provide a serious challenge to any others that fancy a shot at getting rich Er... - I mean running the country.

Besides, they won't lose my details, I'm not giving them to them.
I will demand a signed declaration from the Cabinet Secretary that if I provide my details and subsequently 'mislay' them then they will compensate me in cash to the tune of two million pounds to cover any losses I may suffer.

If they won't provide any guarantees, then I won't be able to trust them with my confidential data.   Let a Judge pick the bones out of that.

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Re: Lost discs
« Reply #32 on: November 22, 2007, 07:07:08 AM »
Wouldn't work Bouncer, the government are making it illegal not to provide details.

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Re: Lost discs
« Reply #33 on: November 22, 2007, 08:35:55 AM »
I see someone was selling them on e-bay yesterday  lol:

he then withdrew the sale saying he'd lost them.. whistle:

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Re: Lost discs
« Reply #34 on: November 22, 2007, 08:36:57 AM »
I see someone was selling them on e-bay yesterday  lol:

he then withdrew the sale saying he'd lost them.. whistle:
See reply #19 on this very thread...  ::)
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Re: Lost discs
« Reply #35 on: November 22, 2007, 08:37:39 AM »
can't be arsed to read them all.. whistle:

Sour Puss

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Re: Lost discs
« Reply #36 on: November 24, 2007, 03:58:49 PM »
 noooo:  This just gets worse...

Six more data discs 'are missing'

HM Revenue and Customs has confirmed that a further six data discs have gone missing in transit between its offices in Preston and London.
The discs, transported by courier company TNT, contained recorded conversations between a member of staff and a customer making a complaint.
They were reported missing on the 30 October, HMRC said.


Timeline: Child benefits records loss

Two CDs containing personal details of 25m people have been lost by HM Revenue and Customs. Here is how the crisis unfolded.

MARCH 2007
A junior official at HM Revenue and Customs gives the National Audit Office a full copy of HMRC's child benefit data, in breach of security procedures. That information is later safely returned.
SEPTEMBER
Records of about 15,000 people's details go missing after being sent by HMRC to Standard Life. Also in September, a laptop containing around 400 ISA (individual savings accounts) customers' details is stolen.
18 OCTOBER

Child benefit data is again sent to the NAO by a junior official, using the courier company TNT, which operates the HMRC's post system. The package containing two CDs, containing details of 25 million individuals, is not recorded or registered and fails to arrive.
24 OCTOBER

The NAO tells HMRC it has not received the package. An HMRC spokeswoman said the official believed it may have been delayed by the postal strikes or in the NAO's office move and did not report it. A second copy is sent, again in breach of procedures, but this time it is sent by registered post and arrives safely.
8 NOVEMBER

Senior HMRC management are informed that the 18 October package is missing.
10 NOVEMBER
Alistair Darling is informed and tells Prime Minister Gordon Brown. Mr Darling orders an immediate investigation and searches of all premises where the package might be, as well as action to ensure it does not happen again.
12 NOVEMBER
Mr Darling is told by HMRC that evidence has been found which might help to find the missing package.
14 NOVEMBER
The chancellor decides the HMRC searches have failed and tells HMRC chairman Paul Gray to call in the Metropolitan Police.
15 NOVEMBER
The chancellor goes to Information Commissioner Richard Thomas, who agrees that remedial action must be taken before a public statement is made.
12-18 NOVEMBER
Mr Gray tells Mr Darling he feels he should resign. The chancellor seeks the advice of the Financial Services Authority and Serious Organised Crime Agency, while banks are alerted by HMRC.
20 NOVEMBER
Mr Gray resigns following an announcement that Mr Darling is to make a statement to the House of Commons. The chancellor outlines what has happened and announces an investigation of HMRC's security procedures by PricewaterhouseCoopers chairman Kieran Poynter, alongside the Independent Police Complaints Commission, which monitors the HMRC.
21 NOVEMBER
Prime Minister Gordon Brown apologises for the "inconvenience and worries" caused and orders security checks on all government departments. The Conservatives produce e-mails they say show senior HMRC officials approved the downloading of the entire Child Benefit register - including bank details - on to discs to save cash.
22 NOVEMBER
HMRC writes to seven million families to reassure them that the missing data is "likely to still be on government property". The government denies the personal data was put on to discs at the request of senior officials.


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Re: Lost discs
« Reply #37 on: November 24, 2007, 04:21:54 PM »
I just heard this on the news... how many more do you think?  noooo:
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Re: Lost discs
« Reply #38 on: November 24, 2007, 06:25:05 PM »
Oh add in the odd 40 plus lap-tops that they have "lost" plus this afternoon's announcement that many more discs have gone missing over the years, "we also use DX Couriers and the Post Office ............ so can't be entirely sure which company we may have handed them to .........." whistle:

Roughly translated they seem to be saying "Whoops ~ we've been found out .... but most of us don't give a flying fvck anyway 'cos we can just resign and take our gold plated pensions".
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Re: Lost discs
« Reply #39 on: November 24, 2007, 10:03:35 PM »
Using my powers of deduction, I've worked out whose got these missing disks. 

On the run up to Christmas, who would be interested in the age, the name and the address of every child in Britain?













You got it!








Father Christmas!!

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Re: Lost discs
« Reply #40 on: November 25, 2007, 12:32:54 AM »
. . .  who would be interested in the age, the name and the address of every child in Britain?



Seems to have printed it out as well.
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Re: Lost discs
« Reply #41 on: November 25, 2007, 08:23:22 AM »
Using my powers of deduction, I've worked out whose got these missing disks. 

On the run up to Christmas, who would be interested in the age, the name and the address of every child in Britain?

You got it!

Father Christmas!!

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Re: Lost discs
« Reply #42 on: November 25, 2007, 08:23:44 AM »
. . .  who would be interested in the age, the name and the address of every child in Britain?



Seems to have printed it out as well.
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You beat Berek to it!
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