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Offline Miss Demeanour

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Protecting victims
« on: November 17, 2011, 10:16:23 AM »
One of the officers went out on a case last week and had some concerns about what was going on in this property.

I went back with her this week.

Essentially this little old lady owns this huge 5 storey property in a very posh part of town. She has no mortgage on it and has a number of tenants in it as well as living there herself. The property is in a dreadful state  noooo:

She has not a penny to her name ( so it seems) and appears to be suffering from dementia . She is dishevelled and obviously not eating properly. One of the 'tenants' there claims he is her business advisor and is acting on her behalf. He is really one of the most unsavoury characters I have met. I told him yesterday that I could not discuss anything with him directly as her had no legal authority and that he should leave and he became quite aggressive . Little old lady is very subserviant to him ( he is no relation or partner ).

So have checked with Housing Benefit . they are paying 'her' over £1000 a week for the various tenants in the building . Business Advisor man says she is not receiving this , tenants say they are paying it. You just know where it is actually going  evil: Business Advisor man lives in property as well, opens all her mail, handles all her accounts, tells her what is 'fact' from 'fiction' , and generally makes her feel even more confused than she already is  evil:

So tried to 'engage' Social Services - real concerns what is going on here , she is not able to look after herself, being manipulated, ripped off, etc. " Unless she makes the referral we cannot take action "  Banghead Banghead Banghead

I spent most of this week trying to reverse such a nonsense decision and then they finally went to do an assessment of her yesterday. Well what a surprise , they have assessed her under the Mental Capacity Act and have confirmed she is not capable of making or understanding her own decisions. Eureka.

I also contacted a police engagement officer that works with the Council and again they were reluctant to get involved. Then they sent something yesterday which basically involved us compiling all the evidence they would need before they could investigate any 'criminality'.

Every message these people send out is about reporting suspcious circumstances , promising investigations and welcoming the opportunity to do so.

The reality however is bloody horrendous. cussing:
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Re: Protecting victims
« Reply #1 on: November 17, 2011, 10:25:40 AM »
One of the officers went out on a case last week and had some concerns about what was going on in this property.

I went back with her this week.

Essentially this little old lady owns this huge 5 storey property in a very posh part of town. She has no mortgage on it and has a number of tenants in it as well as living there herself. The property is in a dreadful state  noooo:

She has not a penny to her name ( so it seems) and appears to be suffering from dementia . She is dishevelled and obviously not eating properly. One of the 'tenants' there claims he is her business advisor and is acting on her behalf. He is really one of the most unsavoury characters I have met. I told him yesterday that I could not discuss anything with him directly as her had no legal authority and that he should leave and he became quite aggressive . Little old lady is very subserviant to him ( he is no relation or partner ).

So have checked with Housing Benefit . they are paying 'her' over £1000 a week for the various tenants in the building . Business Advisor man says she is not receiving this , tenants say they are paying it. You just know where it is actually going  evil: Business Advisor man lives in property as well, opens all her mail, handles all her accounts, tells her what is 'fact' from 'fiction' , and generally makes her feel even more confused than she already is  evil:

So tried to 'engage' Social Services - real concerns what is going on here , she is not able to look after herself, being manipulated, ripped off, etc. " Unless she makes the referral we cannot take action "  Banghead Banghead Banghead

I spent most of this week trying to reverse such a nonsense decision and then they finally went to do an assessment of her yesterday. Well what a surprise , they have assessed her under the Mental Capacity Act and have confirmed she is not capable of making or understanding her own decisions. Eureka.

I also contacted a police engagement officer that works with the Council and again they were reluctant to get involved. Then they sent something yesterday which basically involved us compiling all the evidence they would need before they could investigate any 'criminality'.

Every message these people send out is about reporting suspcious circumstances , promising investigations and welcoming the opportunity to do so.

The reality however is bloody horrendous.
cussing:

Ah.... but the interest of the authorities is to stop people stealing from the state...

... they are (clearly) not concerned if somebody is stealing from an old lady....  noooo:

Well done for trying tho....  :thumbsup:
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Re: Protecting victims
« Reply #2 on: November 17, 2011, 10:33:45 AM »
Seconded, too many of those who should be doing something 'look the other way' these days.
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Re: Protecting victims
« Reply #3 on: November 17, 2011, 03:19:24 PM »
If I may make a suggestion, an 'anonymous' tip to a couple of papers about this could get something sorted out PDQ.  rubschin:
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Re: Protecting victims
« Reply #4 on: November 17, 2011, 06:07:55 PM »
or you could ask the Oscar winning actress Vanessa Redgrave to get involved.....is the old ladies ''financial advisor'' of the pikey persuasion? whistle:
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Re: Protecting victims
« Reply #5 on: November 17, 2011, 06:09:52 PM »
Or get it on the Jeremy Vine Show  ;D
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Re: Protecting victims
« Reply #6 on: November 17, 2011, 06:10:23 PM »
Na, he wears a fedora hat, spokes cigars and thinks he's some gangstar type !
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Re: Protecting victims
« Reply #7 on: November 17, 2011, 06:46:19 PM »
Well, I have to take my hat off to yer MissD (Fedora or otherwise) for trying to right the wrongs   worthy:
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Re: Protecting victims
« Reply #8 on: November 17, 2011, 08:32:38 PM »
We finally managed to get a case conference going this afternoon and got a detective to come in as well...they will investigate  Eureka. Would appear one of the tenants has also managed to register a charge on her property with the Land Registry  in the last two weeks because of some alledged debt she owes him from land  in Cyprus  eeek:

For £109,000  eeek:

She cannot possibly understand what is going on - it can't be legal   noooo:

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Re: Protecting victims
« Reply #9 on: November 17, 2011, 08:47:16 PM »
We finally managed to get a case conference going this afternoon and got a detective to come in as well...they will investigate  Eureka. Would appear one of the tenants has also managed to register a charge on her property with the Land Registry  in the last two weeks because of some alledged debt she owes him from land  in Cyprus  eeek:

For £109,000  eeek:

She cannot possibly understand what is going on - it can't be legal   noooo:


Land in Cyprus you say............Has anyone seen Baldy........ rubschin:

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Re: Protecting victims
« Reply #10 on: November 17, 2011, 08:48:00 PM »
Does he smoke cigars ?
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Re: Protecting victims
« Reply #11 on: November 18, 2011, 09:27:25 AM »
No, he spokes them ;-)