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Offline Grumpmeister

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Re: Changing power suppliers and solar panels.
« Reply #15 on: October 18, 2011, 03:13:33 PM »
Maybe I'm over simplifying things here but isn't there supposed to be enough shale gas under north and north west England to keep us going for decades? Surely if that was tapped then the lower costs could then be passed on.
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Re: Changing power suppliers and solar panels.
« Reply #16 on: October 18, 2011, 03:14:38 PM »
The tree huggers are against it  ::)
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Re: Changing power suppliers and solar panels.
« Reply #17 on: October 18, 2011, 03:16:09 PM »
Quote from: Grumpmeister on October 18, 2011, 03:13:33 PM
Maybe I'm over simplifying things here but isn't there supposed to be enough shale gas under north and north west England to keep us going for decades? Surely if that was tapped then the lower costs could then be passed on.

Hoone doesn't want to tho does he...?  noooo:

And as far as the lower costs being passed on >>>>> happy002

Remember how lektrik would be soooo cheap when nuclear came on line it wouldn't be worth charging us for it....  ::)
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Re: Changing power suppliers and solar panels.
« Reply #18 on: October 18, 2011, 03:34:43 PM »
Quote from: Nick on October 18, 2011, 03:14:38 PM
The tree huggers are against it  ::)

That's bloody stupid, the environmental impact of a gas leak is a hell of a lot less than that of a ruptured oil pipe plus gas burns more cleanly.

If it's down to an argument that it isn't a renewable source of power then they shot themselves in the foot by championing wind turbines instead of tidal power. Personally I think either they have no idea what they are talking about and are just choosing the option that makes it look like they are doing something or there is some kind of shady back hander deal going on.

Quote from: Barman on October 18, 2011, 03:16:09 PM
Hoone doesn't want to tho does he...?  noooo:

And as far as the lower costs being passed on >>>>> happy002

Remember how lektrik would be soooo cheap when nuclear came on line it wouldn't be worth charging us for it....  ::)

Nuclear power coming on line here was a bit before my time BM, I'm pretty sure Windscale was anyway.  rubschin: rubschin:
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Re: Changing power suppliers and solar panels.
« Reply #19 on: October 18, 2011, 03:38:00 PM »
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Re: Changing power suppliers and solar panels.
« Reply #20 on: October 18, 2011, 03:39:20 PM »
Quote from: Grumpmeister on October 18, 2011, 03:34:43 PM
Quote from: Nick on October 18, 2011, 03:14:38 PM
The tree huggers are against it  ::)

That's bloody stupid, the environmental impact of a gas leak is a hell of a lot less than that of a ruptured oil pipe plus gas burns more cleanly.

If it's down to an argument that it isn't a renewable source of power then they shot themselves in the foot by championing wind turbines instead of tidal power. Personally I think either they have no idea what they are talking about and are just choosing the option that makes it look like they are doing something or there is some kind of shady back hander deal going on.

Quote from: Barman on October 18, 2011, 03:16:09 PM
Hoone doesn't want to tho does he...?  noooo:

And as far as the lower costs being passed on >>>>> happy002

Remember how lektrik would be soooo cheap when nuclear came on line it wouldn't be worth charging us for it....  ::)

Nuclear power coming on line here was a bit before my time BM, I'm pretty sure Windscale was anyway.  rubschin: rubschin:

Suffice to say energy won't get any cheaper....  noooo:

... in the same way that North Sea Oil didn't reduce petrol prices...
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Re: Changing power suppliers and solar panels.
« Reply #21 on: October 18, 2011, 03:40:53 PM »
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Re: Changing power suppliers and solar panels.
« Reply #22 on: October 18, 2011, 03:44:07 PM »
Oh and they do say that there is at least 200 years worth of coal still under Wales.

Two birds with one stone .... a real win-win situation  whistle:
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Re: Changing power suppliers and solar panels.
« Reply #23 on: October 19, 2011, 12:44:35 AM »
My mate does solar panels, however, these are purely for heating the water - not PV panels. A "mates rates" installation is about £3,500 and most customers estimate it reduces their electricity bill by about £500 per annum, so the payback time isn't too bad. In most instances, the solar panels heat all the water from about March-Novemberand; even in the winter the solar panels still heat the water by 20 degrees or so, so less mains electricity is needed to fully heat it and your bolier is doing less work, so should last longer.
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« Reply #24 on: October 19, 2011, 05:27:45 AM »
Quote from: The Moan Ranger on October 19, 2011, 12:44:35 AM
My mate does solar panels, however, these are purely for heating the water - not PV panels. A "mates rates" installation is about £3,500 and most customers estimate it reduces their electricity bill by about £500 per annum, so the payback time isn't too bad. In most instances, the solar panels heat all the water from about March-Novemberand; even in the winter the solar panels still heat the water by 20 degrees or so, so less mains electricity is needed to fully heat it and your bolier is doing less work, so should last longer.

We all have those here for heating water...

It is only for a couple of months a year that we need to heat it with gas or lektrik...
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Re: Changing power suppliers and solar panels.
« Reply #25 on: October 19, 2011, 05:29:39 AM »
Quote from: Snoopy on October 18, 2011, 03:44:07 PM
Oh and they do say that there is at least 200 years worth of coal still under Wales.

Two birds with one stone .... a real win-win situation  whistle:

In the same way that previously uneconomic oil fields are now viable, there must be vast amounts of coal under the whole of the UK that could now compete with the cost of importing gas...

Of course, it isn't 'green' coal...  ::)
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Re: Changing power suppliers and solar panels.
« Reply #26 on: October 19, 2011, 05:31:30 AM »
Quote from: Barman on October 19, 2011, 05:27:45 AM
Quote from: The Moan Ranger on October 19, 2011, 12:44:35 AM
My mate does solar panels, however, these are purely for heating the water - not PV panels. A "mates rates" installation is about £3,500 and most customers estimate it reduces their electricity bill by about £500 per annum, so the payback time isn't too bad. In most instances, the solar panels heat all the water from about March-Novemberand; even in the winter the solar panels still heat the water by 20 degrees or so, so less mains electricity is needed to fully heat it and your bolier is doing less work, so should last longer.

We all have those here for heating water...

It is only for a couple of months a year that we need to heat it with gas or lektrik...


Had to use the emersion yesterday morning(afternoon  redface: )..........
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Re: Changing power suppliers and solar panels.
« Reply #27 on: October 19, 2011, 05:32:13 AM »
Quote from: apc2010 on October 19, 2011, 05:31:30 AM
Quote from: Barman on October 19, 2011, 05:27:45 AM
Quote from: The Moan Ranger on October 19, 2011, 12:44:35 AM
My mate does solar panels, however, these are purely for heating the water - not PV panels. A "mates rates" installation is about £3,500 and most customers estimate it reduces their electricity bill by about £500 per annum, so the payback time isn't too bad. In most instances, the solar panels heat all the water from about March-Novemberand; even in the winter the solar panels still heat the water by 20 degrees or so, so less mains electricity is needed to fully heat it and your bolier is doing less work, so should last longer.

We all have those here for heating water...

It is only for a couple of months a year that we need to heat it with gas or lektrik...


Had to use the emersion yesterday morning(afternoon  redface: )..........

Spect your panels are all covered in shite....  ::)
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Re: Changing power suppliers and solar panels.
« Reply #28 on: October 19, 2011, 05:32:50 AM »
Quote from: Barman on October 19, 2011, 05:29:39 AM
Quote from: Snoopy on October 18, 2011, 03:44:07 PM
Oh and they do say that there is at least 200 years worth of coal still under Wales.

Two birds with one stone .... a real win-win situation  whistle:

In the same way that previously uneconomic oil fields are now viable, there must be vast amounts of coal under the whole of the UK that could now compete with the cost of importing gas...

Of course, it isn't 'green' coal...  ::)
We could export it to China
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Re: Changing power suppliers and solar panels.
« Reply #29 on: October 19, 2011, 05:33:41 AM »
Quote from: Darwins Selection on October 19, 2011, 05:32:50 AM
Quote from: Barman on October 19, 2011, 05:29:39 AM
Quote from: Snoopy on October 18, 2011, 03:44:07 PM
Oh and they do say that there is at least 200 years worth of coal still under Wales.

Two birds with one stone .... a real win-win situation  whistle:

In the same way that previously uneconomic oil fields are now viable, there must be vast amounts of coal under the whole of the UK that could now compete with the cost of importing gas...

Of course, it isn't 'green' coal...  ::)
We could export it to China

Indeed!  lol:
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