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Re: The tyranny of the ex
« Reply #15 on: January 30, 2013, 11:23:48 AM »
Right time to get stuff off my chest !!!!
New man is totally lovely and ‘we’ are really good together.

The fly in the ointment is his ex, they were not married though. She left him about 5 years to go off with his best mate. She now lives with said ex best mate.

They have a joint mortgage but she has not paid anything for the last 5 years. He has remained at the house with their 2 sons (20 & 15). She turns up at the house anytime she wants which is often quite a few days a week (under the guise of seeing the boys).

New man informed her sometime ago that he was in a new relationship. Since then all hell has broken loose.  cussing:

She has asked to get back together (whilst still going on holiday with her other blokey  of course ) . When he has refused she has gone totally ballistic. She has tried to turn their sons against him but both of the boys fully support him having this relationship.

Yesterday she has declared she is moving back in and will be making his life hell and obviously the lives of her children who do not want her to move back in .

The wumman is feckin unbelievable ....I am hoping that she is just having a massive tantrum cos I can’t possibly see her leaving her current bloke to go and stay where she is not wanted , potentially at the risk of losing current bloke  and the ex bloke not wanting anything to do with you  - but I wouldn’t put it past her. Banghead

There's your clue .... right there.
She will want "Buying out" and I'll wager she already has a figure in mind ..... that'll be at least half the current value of the property ~ Go to court and she'll prolly get it. Morally that is wrong in so many ways but legally she'll have a case and if your man loses in court they'll stuff him with her costs too.
Short answer is for him to move out and let her have the whole thing as I did BUT first he has to get out of the Joint Mortgage situation or she still won't pay and the Bank/Bld Soc will come after him for it as Joint Mortgagees are "Jointly and separately liable for the whole debt" not, as one would think, only their half of it.
He needs good legal advice and quickly. Even if you two don't stay together forever she'll have him over this no matter what. That is her insurance for the future. It's not him she wants it's the munny.
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Re: The tyranny of the ex
« Reply #16 on: January 30, 2013, 11:25:21 AM »
Meet her for a drink at Victoria Station  :thumbsup:

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Re: The tyranny of the ex
« Reply #17 on: January 30, 2013, 11:33:05 AM »
Right time to get stuff off my chest !!!!
New man is totally lovely and ‘we’ are really good together.

The fly in the ointment is his ex, they were not married though. She left him about 5 years to go off with his best mate. She now lives with said ex best mate.

They have a joint mortgage but she has not paid anything for the last 5 years. He has remained at the house with their 2 sons (20 & 15). She turns up at the house anytime she wants which is often quite a few days a week (under the guise of seeing the boys).

New man informed her sometime ago that he was in a new relationship. Since then all hell has broken loose.  cussing:

She has asked to get back together (whilst still going on holiday with her other blokey  of course ) . When he has refused she has gone totally ballistic. She has tried to turn their sons against him but both of the boys fully support him having this relationship.

Yesterday she has declared she is moving back in and will be making his life hell and obviously the lives of her children who do not want her to move back in .

The wumman is feckin unbelievable ....I am hoping that she is just having a massive tantrum cos I can’t possibly see her leaving her current bloke to go and stay where she is not wanted , potentially at the risk of losing current bloke  and the ex bloke not wanting anything to do with you  - but I wouldn’t put it past her. Banghead

There's your clue .... right there.
She will want "Buying out" and I'll wager she already has a figure in mind ..... that'll be at least half the current value of the property ~ Go to court and she'll prolly get it. Morally that is wrong in so many ways but legally she'll have a case and if your man loses in court they'll stuff him with her costs too.
Short answer is for him to move out and let her have the whole thing as I did BUT first he has to get out of the Joint Mortgage situation or she still won't pay and the Bank/Bld Soc will come after him for it as Joint Mortgagees are "Jointly and separately liable for the whole debt" not, as one would think, only their half of it.
He needs good legal advice and quickly. Even if you two don't stay together forever she'll have him over this no matter what. That is her insurance for the future. It's not him she wants it's the munny.

"Joint and several liability"  whistle:

But the hound is right, unfortunately. When you weren't around it probably suited her for him to have the house and the children. Now that the situation could change and even the younger boy is nearly adult, she will do all in her power to make things as uncomfortable as possible. "Hell hath no fury (or furry)..." and all that.

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Re: The tyranny of the ex
« Reply #18 on: January 30, 2013, 11:36:31 AM »
OH yes Snoops I am sure that is the case too. She doesn't want to lose her safety net as she sees it.

She has also enquired about what entitlement she would have to his pension rights when he retires as she doesn't have any provision in place.  They are not married so that seems fairly clean cut to me  noooo:

I have told him he needs to go and seek legal advice but you're right, it will not be simple or fair.

I think for far too long he has been far too compliant and it will be difficult to change these patterns and her control.  He says he has to though so we shall see.

Seriously fecked up situation though  noooo:
« Last Edit: January 30, 2013, 11:38:04 AM by Miss Demeanour »
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Re: The tyranny of the ex
« Reply #19 on: January 30, 2013, 11:37:00 AM »
Meet her for a drink at Victoria Station  :thumbsup:

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It wasn't my fault  noooo:
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Re: The tyranny of the ex
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Re: The tyranny of the ex
« Reply #21 on: January 30, 2013, 11:54:26 AM »
OH yes Snoops I am sure that is the case too. She doesn't want to lose her safety net as she sees it.

She has also enquired about what entitlement she would have to his pension rights when he retires as she doesn't have any provision in place.  They are not married so that seems fairly clean cut to me  noooo:

I have told him he needs to go and seek legal advice but you're right, it will not be simple or fair.

I think for far too long he has been far too compliant and it will be difficult to change these patterns and her control.  He says he has to though so we shall see.

Seriously fecked up situation though  noooo:


This is going to be no consolation but remember that we were married.
Her Solicitors demanded, under threat of a court order, access to details of my insurances and pension provisions.
On the grounds that although she had not paid a penny piece into them she had "contributed" by staying at home, being housewife, cook etc, I ended up having to cash in the life policies and give her half the resultant cash PLUS, as the pension could not be cashed in (Company Pension Scheme ..... in the event of my death she would get 1/3 of the pension for the rest of her days) I had to pay her half the value of contributions (My contributions and those made by the company) made to date of divorce. This was all presented to the Judge who handed down a Court Order to that effect, commenting that it seemed a fair and amicable settlement .... the implication being that had I opposed it he would have awarded her more but he preferred it if couples could make their own agreements which he would then "rubber stamp".

I cannot stress enough the value of getting good legal advice as soon as possible.


There is, of course, one other option but I know you won't want to take it. I'll say it anyway: Walk away now and tell him to sort his life then give you a call
« Last Edit: January 30, 2013, 11:56:45 AM by Snoopy »
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Re: The tyranny of the ex
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Re: The tyranny of the ex
« Reply #23 on: January 30, 2013, 01:23:51 PM »
OH yes Snoops I am sure that is the case too. She doesn't want to lose her safety net as she sees it.

She has also enquired about what entitlement she would have to his pension rights when he retires as she doesn't have any provision in place.  They are not married so that seems fairly clean cut to me  noooo:

I have told him he needs to go and seek legal advice but you're right, it will not be simple or fair.

I think for far too long he has been far too compliant and it will be difficult to change these patterns and her control.  He says he has to though so we shall see.

Seriously fecked up situation though  noooo:


This is going to be no consolation but remember that we were married.
Her Solicitors demanded, under threat of a court order, access to details of my insurances and pension provisions.
On the grounds that although she had not paid a penny piece into them she had "contributed" by staying at home, being housewife, cook etc, I ended up having to cash in the life policies and give her half the resultant cash PLUS, as the pension could not be cashed in (Company Pension Scheme ..... in the event of my death she would get 1/3 of the pension for the rest of her days) I had to pay her half the value of contributions (My contributions and those made by the company) made to date of divorce. This was all presented to the Judge who handed down a Court Order to that effect, commenting that it seemed a fair and amicable settlement .... the implication being that had I opposed it he would have awarded her more but he preferred it if couples could make their own agreements which he would then "rubber stamp".

I cannot stress enough the value of getting good legal advice as soon as possible.


There is, of course, one other option but I know you won't want to take it. I'll say it anyway: Walk away now and tell him to sort his life then give you a call

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Re: The tyranny of the ex
« Reply #24 on: January 30, 2013, 01:27:05 PM »
Posty left me  a card yesterday informing me that there was something for me at the Sorting Office. Insufficient postage. £2 to pay.

When I collected it I found it to be a birthday card from Mrs Nick  evil:
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Re: The tyranny of the ex
« Reply #25 on: January 30, 2013, 01:27:52 PM »
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Re: The tyranny of the ex
« Reply #26 on: January 30, 2013, 01:32:25 PM »
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Re: The tyranny of the ex
« Reply #27 on: January 30, 2013, 01:47:28 PM »
So sorry to hear all that Miss D.... happy100
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Re: The tyranny of the ex
« Reply #28 on: January 30, 2013, 02:20:13 PM »
Oh dear,  noooo:    happy100

I was going to make a comment but our Snoopy has hit that nail on the head at the top of page 2.
Difficult doesn't begin to describe it; I've been in an equally difficult but different situation. After much thought, anguish, argument, threats, tantrums ... I took the decision to walk away.  confused:
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Re: The tyranny of the ex
« Reply #29 on: January 30, 2013, 02:26:07 PM »
Like Growler and BM, like  rubschin:
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