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Re: Nigel v. Nick live thread
« Reply #15 on: April 02, 2014, 06:43:22 PM »
He is really a lightweight  noooo:
Which one?

I'm watching on the live text feed http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-26729567  and seems the fibometer is starting to get overheated

I'm watching live on BBC2....

the Cleggmeister is washed out....  noooo:
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Re: Nigel v. Nick live thread
« Reply #16 on: April 02, 2014, 06:44:30 PM »
He is really a lightweight  noooo:
Which one?

I'm watching on the live text feed http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-26729567  and seems the fibometer is starting to get overheated

I'm watching live on BBC2....

the Cleggmeister is washed out....  noooo:

BBC news....

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Re: Nigel v. Nick live thread
« Reply #17 on: April 02, 2014, 06:45:30 PM »
7% has bitten Clegg on the arse!  lol:
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Re: Nigel v. Nick live thread
« Reply #18 on: April 02, 2014, 06:46:54 PM »
The audience is with Nigel too....  ;D
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Re: Nigel v. Nick live thread
« Reply #19 on: April 02, 2014, 07:00:41 PM »
Nigel wins on a knockout  :thumbsup:

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Re: Nigel v. Nick live thread
« Reply #20 on: April 02, 2014, 07:03:02 PM »
Nigel wins on a knockout  :thumbsup:

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Re: Nigel v. Nick live thread
« Reply #21 on: April 02, 2014, 07:10:02 PM »
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Re: Nigel v. Nick live thread
« Reply #22 on: April 02, 2014, 07:14:28 PM »
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LBC listeners poll gives Farage 86.4% Van Clegg 14.4%

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Re: Nigel v. Nick live thread
« Reply #23 on: April 02, 2014, 07:18:46 PM »
Watching the News 24 analysis and it looks like Danny Alexander would have been far better at this debate than Nick  lol:

Yougov results just came in 68% for Nigel and 27% for Nick  :thumbsup:
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Re: Nigel v. Nick live thread
« Reply #24 on: April 02, 2014, 07:33:31 PM »
It gets worserer for the boy Clegg on LBC....  noooo:

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Re: Nigel v. Nick live thread
« Reply #25 on: April 02, 2014, 08:01:46 PM »
Clegg misses open goals, Farage sells dreams with tales of nightmares.

I don't there's much doubt now who's the best debater










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Re: Nigel v. Nick live thread
« Reply #26 on: April 02, 2014, 08:10:54 PM »
Clegg misses open goals, Farage sells dreams with tales of nightmares.

I don't there's much doubt now who's the best debater

Clegg was terrible.... he just came out with the same tired old rhetoric that everybody can see through now....

...he was completely bolloxed with his stupid 7% claim which has been widely disproved.... THAT was an open goal for Farage and he scored a HUGE volley with it.... as he did with the 'small print' claim on the referendum leaflet.....

The only positive thing you can say about the Clegg is that he did at least have the bottle to stand up and debate with Nigel... Still.... he has prolly secured himself a multi-million €uro position in the EU - why should he care about the UK at all...?
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Re: Nigel v. Nick live thread
« Reply #27 on: April 02, 2014, 08:22:20 PM »
That 7% idiocy lost Clegg the high ground that WAS his main weapon.  Apparently it is true in a narrow context but the high ground isn't about using narrow truths as wide facts.

He could have screwed Farage on his continual use of wrong figures but after that he couldn't.  Farage appeals to the emotional argument that we can again be that Great Britain our grandparents talked of.  Those that buy that don't care about his wild arsed guesses positioned as 'facts'.

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Re: Nigel v. Nick live thread
« Reply #28 on: April 02, 2014, 08:33:38 PM »
That 7% idiocy lost Clegg the high ground that WAS his main weapon.  Apparently it is true in a narrow context but the high ground isn't about using narrow truths as wide facts.

He could have screwed Farage on his continual use of wrong figures but after that he couldn't.  Farage appeals to the emotional argument that we can again be that Great Britain our grandparents talked of.  Those that buy that don't care about his wild arsed guesses positioned as 'facts'.

But Clegg "continual(ly) use(s) of wrong figures" like his 7%.... and his 3 (or 4 tonight) million jobs that would be lost if the UK left the EU.... he can't now say that 7% was true "in a narrow context".... he should have said that last week....

You can't have it both ways... you can't call Farage a liar for his 75% laws claim when he is clearly closer to the truth than Clegg's 7%... and you can't ignore the fact that 3M jobs simply wouldn't be lost if the UK left the EU....

Farage won and (amazingly) the BBC picked audience were behind him.... and I thought David Dimbleby realised the ship was sinking too....
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Re: Nigel v. Nick live thread
« Reply #29 on: April 02, 2014, 08:58:35 PM »
Where did I say I wanted it both ways? 

You seem to use opinions as if they are 'facts'  they're not

I call Farage a liar because he clearly is.  A liar isn't a comparitive term it's an absolute for someone who utters a falsehood knowing it to be false. 

And come on it's not like he hasn't been told is it.  "485 million" (FFS there's not 450 million in the rest of the EU), "29 million" when the census figures say 27.5 and declining and no way they are all able, £55M a day when the truth is £17 to £24M depending on how you look at import duties and "75% of laws" based on a wild arsed guesstimate from Germany in 2005 when no one has been able to find more than 50% in any sub category of laws.

But as I said UKIP is more about an emotional argument, their supporters don't care about the details but hope big emotional numbers will win the middle ground.  Well we'll see what the middle ground really thinks in about 370 days time. 

I remain both an EU and UKIP sceptic


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