Where did I say I wanted it both ways?
You seem to use opinions as if they are 'facts' they're not
I call Farage a liar because he clearly is. A liar isn't a comparitive term it's an absolute for someone who utters a falsehood knowing it to be false.
And come on it's not like he hasn't been told is it. "485 million" (FFS there's not 450 million in the rest of the EU), "29 million" when the census figures say 27.5 and declining and no way they are all able, £55M a day when the truth is £17 to £24M depending on how you look at import duties and "75% of laws" based on a wild arsed guesstimate from Germany in 2005 when no one has been able to find more than 50% in any sub category of laws.
But as I said UKIP is more about an emotional argument, their supporters don't care about the details but hope big emotional numbers will win the middle ground. Well we'll see what the middle ground really thinks in about 370 days time.
I remain both an EU and UKIP sceptic