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British justice
« on: June 25, 2014, 02:31:09 AM »
I remember when I was a kid how my grandparents would go on about how British justice was the envy of the world. Now look at it, arrested 25 times, convicted 11 times (including one for assaulting 2 police officers), missed 2 probation meetings because getting her breasts enlarged was more important and can't be bothered to do her community service as picking litter is 'too hard for her'. And we wonder why crime of any sort is an increasing problem. What the hell happened to the days of being sent to prison if you didn't bother to do your probation work.  Banghead

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She faced the court this month for breaching the order by failing to give a 'reasonable excuse' for missing the January meetings.

But magistrates cleared Miss Dalzell when she produced a letter from a Brussels plastic surgeon.

I can understand treatment for medical conditions being valid grounds but how the hell is getting cosmetic surgery a reasonable excuse for missing a probation meeting.  noooo:

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With 180 hours of litter picking left to complete, Miss Dalzell has now declared she has ground to a halt because she 'just can't physically do it'.

'At the moment I am refusing to go because I hate everything about it,' she told The Sun.

'They make you work from 8am until 4pm. It's a waste of a full day and it's just too hard for me.'

Community service is supposed to be unpleasant you stupid child, its a punishment. This is just an observation but I suspect if you put as much effort into doing the hours as you seem to have in whining about them they would have been done by now.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2667305/I-not-scared-police-cell-I-know-I-day-Glamour-model-skipped-probation-meeting-boob-job-admits-shes-arrested-25-times.html
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Re: British justice
« Reply #1 on: June 25, 2014, 04:50:41 AM »
I remember when I was a kid how my grandparents would go on about how British justice was the envy of the world. Now look at it, arrested 25 times, convicted 11 times (including one for assaulting 2 police officers), missed 2 probation meetings because getting her breasts enlarged was more important and can't be bothered to do her community service as picking litter is 'too hard for her'. And we wonder why crime of any sort is an increasing problem. What the hell happened to the days of being sent to prison if you didn't bother to do your probation work.  Banghead

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She faced the court this month for breaching the order by failing to give a 'reasonable excuse' for missing the January meetings.

But magistrates cleared Miss Dalzell when she produced a letter from a Brussels plastic surgeon.

I can understand treatment for medical conditions being valid grounds but how the hell is getting cosmetic surgery a reasonable excuse for missing a probation meeting.  noooo:

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With 180 hours of litter picking left to complete, Miss Dalzell has now declared she has ground to a halt because she 'just can't physically do it'.

'At the moment I am refusing to go because I hate everything about it,' she told The Sun.

'They make you work from 8am until 4pm. It's a waste of a full day and it's just too hard for me.'

Community service is supposed to be unpleasant you stupid child, its a punishment. This is just an observation but I suspect if you put as much effort into doing the hours as you seem to have in whining about them they would have been done by now.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2667305/I-not-scared-police-cell-I-know-I-day-Glamour-model-skipped-probation-meeting-boob-job-admits-shes-arrested-25-times.html

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Re: British justice
« Reply #2 on: June 25, 2014, 10:17:44 AM »
What the hell happened to the days of being sent to prison if you didn't bother to do your probation work.

Prison wasn't subjected to cost/benefit analysis in those days.
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Re: British justice
« Reply #3 on: June 25, 2014, 07:13:11 PM »
Another example of our glorious justice system. A 'man' (I use the term loosely given his tendency to attack women who can't defend themselves) with a history of violence including trying to gouge out a police officers eyes and all he gets for beating the crap out of his girlfriend because he couldn't get cash out of the machine is yet more probation time? What the hell happened to duty of care, this is a violent thug who in all honesty will probably never change his ways so how many more women are going to be attacked before one of you makes the sensible choice and puts him behind bars

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Magistrates were told he would return from prison 'full of problems' and decided that custody would be the 'easy option'.

You don't think he is full of problems already? Easy option my arse, at least be honest about your decision and admit custody is the more expensive option. I know there is a cost/benefit analysis towards prison sentences these days but this bastard deserves more than a slap on the wrist and unpaid hours that won't deter him in the slightest.

Out of curiosity I had a quick look at the .gov guide to becomming a magistrate and the relevant duties and found this:

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Throughout the trial, your task is to listen carefully to all that is said in court and to make appropriate decisions as part of a team. You have to think about all the evidence given, decide what is relevant and, if different stories are told, whom you believe in an unbiased manner. When someone has pleaded or been found guilty, you have to think about how to deal with the offender and consider:

The punishment of offenders.
The reduction of crime.
The reform and rehabilitation of offenders.
The protection of the public.
The making of reparation by offenders to those affected by their offences.

Well congratulation, you are doing a bang up job and bring honour to your position  Banghead

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2669335/Drunk-thug-spared-jail-repeatedly-battering-girlfriend-face-free-AGAIN-magistrates-attacking-new-partner.html

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Re: British justice
« Reply #4 on: June 25, 2014, 07:39:57 PM »
Another example of our glorious justice system. A 'man' (I use the term loosely given his tendency to attack women who can't defend themselves) with a history of violence including trying to gouge out a police officers eyes and all he gets for beating the crap out of his girlfriend because he couldn't get cash out of the machine is yet more probation time? What the hell happened to duty of care, this is a violent thug who in all honesty will probably never change his ways so how many more women are going to be attacked before one of you makes the sensible choice and puts him behind bars

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Magistrates were told he would return from prison 'full of problems' and decided that custody would be the 'easy option'.

You don't think he is full of problems already? Easy option my arse, at least be honest about your decision and admit custody is the more expensive option. I know there is a cost/benefit analysis towards prison sentences these days but this bastard deserves more than a slap on the wrist and unpaid hours that won't deter him in the slightest.

Out of curiosity I had a quick look at the .gov guide to becomming a magistrate and the relevant duties and found this:

Quote from: Serving as a Magistrate
Throughout the trial, your task is to listen carefully to all that is said in court and to make appropriate decisions as part of a team. You have to think about all the evidence given, decide what is relevant and, if different stories are told, whom you believe in an unbiased manner. When someone has pleaded or been found guilty, you have to think about how to deal with the offender and consider:

The punishment of offenders.
The reduction of crime.
The reform and rehabilitation of offenders.
The protection of the public.
The making of reparation by offenders to those affected by their offences.

Well congratulation, you are doing a bang up job and bring honour to your position  Banghead

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2669335/Drunk-thug-spared-jail-repeatedly-battering-girlfriend-face-free-AGAIN-magistrates-attacking-new-partner.html
Banghead   Actually that is what I'd like to do with his head, even better onto those spiked thingies they use to deter the homeless

He's a bang him up and throw away the key person.  That way there won't be any problems when he comes out of jail cos he never will

 rubschin:   how come it was a magistrates court?  Maybe the CPS wot's to blame.
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