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Re: Your first car
« Reply #165 on: October 09, 2007, 10:25:05 PM »
you're right there growler. my skoda octavia vrs is the best (and fastest) car i've ever had. never given me any trouble worth mentioning in 4 years of ownership.

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Re: Your first car
« Reply #166 on: October 10, 2007, 07:08:26 AM »
Could that be because they are now made by someone else?
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« Reply #167 on: October 10, 2007, 07:11:29 AM »
That's as may be, but they did in fact win their class on the RAC rally for many many years from the mid 70's to the early 90's
Unfortunately the class was ‘Rusty Pile of Wank’  point:
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« Reply #168 on: October 10, 2007, 07:51:41 AM »
Fiat Panda

My thoughts too tbh. Crackin car, and well respected in the trade. Fiats are 100% better than they were even 5 years ago.

Hyundai Getz with the balance of the 5 year manufactureres warranty worthy of a sniffin', and I think Kia are offering a 7 year warranty on their range now too. Picanto is quite sweet albeit a bit of an ugly face.

New Fiat 500 coming out in 2 months, beautiful but expensive for what it is, + join the waiting list.

Have a very close look at the Citroen C1/Peugeot 107/Toyota Aygo.
They are all made in the same factory which is a Toyota factory. Build quality is very good. Driven the C1 and was suprised just how good it was. The 3 cylinder1.0 litre engine is a gem and suprisingly perky, with phenominal economy....60mpg easily obtainable around town. Don't waste time looking at the diesel version. Little benefit for the extra 1000 quid.
Miniscual boot though, so transporting all your 'tat' around could be a problem if that's a requirement...back seat folds down in one piece on the cheaper model, but in two halves on the 'posh' one to give you loads of extra tat moving space. ;)

I'd say the C1, Panda, Picanto, Getz, or the Toyota Yaris. All obtainable new or fairly new for less than 7 grand.
C1 attracts the cheapest insurance i think. Group 1, and shop around well hard for that too. ;)

DON'T get sucked into the BMW Mini range trend setting tripe. Horrendous second hand prices,upwards of 6+k for an early one even, and many have been abused. New prices are just a bloody joke! happy001
Up to 23k!!!!!!! Give me strength. eeek:
DON'T do it, (buy new) no matter how big the temptation to be 'trendy' ::)

Thank-you very much! Mr Wench was most appreciative for the information!

No fear on the mini thing. One of Brother Wench's mates has one. Biggest tosser this side of the river. No way no how are we being tarred with that brush!

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Re: Your first car
« Reply #169 on: October 10, 2007, 08:18:34 AM »
That's as may be, but they did in fact win their class on the RAC rally for many many years from the mid 70's to the early 90's
Unfortunately the class was ‘Rusty Pile of Wank’  point:

Ignorance is bliss in'it? ::)

Look here plums. I stood in various forest throughout the UK over 25+ years EVERY November watching the Daily Mirror/Lombard RAC rally, and the Skodas' where always a delight and suprise to watch.
1 particular moment over those years stood out, and that was in the mid 80's at 'The Woodyard' in Dalby forest. It's like a great big bowl arena, extremely popular with speccies, and the track leading out of it is moderately steep.
This particular November it was quite snowy, and VERY icy. The top lads negotiated the slope well good like, being mainly 4WD, but once the lower class cars arrived, all 2WD, the place almost became a car park, with loads cars being pushed by dozens of amused spectators...loads of cheering and jeering. The atmosphere was fantastic, with co drivers falling over helping to push their stricken cars, and cars sliding back down the hill.

The BIGGEST cheer however, was reserved for one of the Skoda Estelles that came plodding 'round the corner, and zig zagged it's way around the mayhem and promptly disappeared over the crest of the hill.
The roar, cheering and clapping was almost deafening from the 2/3000 + crowd! Fantastic stuff, and I think anyone that witnessed the Skoda of those days will agree, they were a crackin' little motor. happy088

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Re: Your first car
« Reply #170 on: October 10, 2007, 08:26:54 AM »
Wenchy. When you're ready, do check out the deals from Citroen. They are always very aggresive with their marketing, and sometimes offer free insurance for the over 19's, which in Mr W's case would be a very strong factor to consider in his early driving days.
Do check out all the others too though. It's a buyers market at the moment. The stealers are falling over themselves to get your signature. happy088 

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« Reply #171 on: October 10, 2007, 08:34:11 AM »
Wenchy. When you're ready, do check out the deals from Citroen. They are always very aggresive with their marketing, and sometimes offer free insurance for the over 19's, which in Mr W's case would be a very strong factor to consider in his early driving days.
Do check out all the others too though. It's a buyers market at the moment. The stealers are falling over themselves to get your signature. happy088 
Check they have locking wheelnuts as well if Growler recommends them.


Joking apart, all sound advice there
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« Reply #172 on: October 10, 2007, 08:53:17 AM »
Wenchy. When you're ready, do check out the deals from Citroen. They are always very aggresive with their marketing, and sometimes offer free insurance for the over 19's, which in Mr W's case would be a very strong factor to consider in his early driving days.
Do check out all the others too though. It's a buyers market at the moment. The stealers are falling over themselves to get your signature. happy088 


Ohh free insurance!!! Now that isn't something to be sneezed at!!

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Re: Your first car
« Reply #173 on: October 10, 2007, 08:55:57 AM »
Wenchy. When you're ready, do check out the deals from Citroen. They are always very aggresive with their marketing, and sometimes offer free insurance for the over 19's, which in Mr W's case would be a very strong factor to consider in his early driving days.
Do check out all the others too though. It's a buyers market at the moment. The stealers are falling over themselves to get your signature. happy088 


Ohh free insurance!!! Now that isn't something to be sneezed at!!

I think it's motor insurance love ~ not BUPA  ;)
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Re: Your first car
« Reply #174 on: October 10, 2007, 08:56:51 AM »
I know!  redface:

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« Reply #175 on: October 10, 2007, 08:57:56 AM »
Wenchy. When you're ready, do check out the deals from Citroen. They are always very aggresive with their marketing, and sometimes offer free insurance for the over 19's, which in Mr W's case would be a very strong factor to consider in his early driving days.
Do check out all the others too though. It's a buyers market at the moment. The stealers are falling over themselves to get your signature. happy088 


Ohh free insurance!!! Now that isn't something to be sneezed at!!

I think it's motor insurance love ~ not BUPA  ;)
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Re: Your first car
« Reply #176 on: October 10, 2007, 09:10:07 AM »
I can see her on one of these!

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« Reply #177 on: October 10, 2007, 09:20:14 AM »
I can see her on one of these!


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Re: Your first car
« Reply #178 on: October 10, 2007, 09:33:16 AM »
I know!  redface:

Some right owld 'wags' in 'ere ey Wenchy? ::)

Going back to the new v 2nd hand choice arguement.
 
New, for: 
It's new, so you know it's history...well nearly. ::) Did you know that ALL new cars have usually been driven by up to approx 11-15 different people before you reach it? eeek:
Nice to know that no one has ever owned it too.
Breaks down? Under warranty, so no hefty repair bills, just the annoyance, but you'll usually get a courtesy car for free. Most manufacturers include 3 years RAC/AA/ Greenflag breakdown cover too.

New, against:
Price, and an immidiate big loss /depreciation as soon as they register it in your name.
The worry of it getting damaged. Some like me get paranoid, and end up parking it 3 miles away from the supermarket to avoid it getting whacked/scratched by other inconsiderate arses. Some like our Nick for instance, don't give a flying duck however...it's JUST a car.  ::)
Whatever.

2nd hand. For:

Price. Biggest slice of depreciation will have been suffered by the first owner. Most of it's early days problems will have/should have been sorted under warranty.
Balance of manufacturers warranty if the car is under 3 years old ( for most models, more with Hyundai and Kia to name two)

2nd hand. Against:

What has the car been through? How was it treated? Has it ever been damaged. Is its service history (essential) genuine?
HPI'ing it normally reveals any adverse history, and most if not all reputable garages would do this check as  a matter of course.
Always a good idea to ring the previous owner for a 'friendly chat' if you can obtain his/her details.

If it breaks down out of warranty, you are on your own. Beware of 2nd hand dealers warranties, as they normally have limits on how much you can claim per breakdown. READ the small print to discover WHAT exactly you are gettin'.

Buying privately you won't be offered a warranty, and you'll have no come back whatsoever if it was described reasonably accurately in the first place.

If for instance, the ECU ( brain for the car) coughs its clogs, you are quite often looking at a 4 figure sum to get it replaced. Lights coming on on the dashboard can sometimes be a quite expensive pain to rectify too..airbag, engine management etc. ::)

In a nutshell, buying new or very nearly new is the safest but most expensive option. 2nd hand has the financial benefits, but beware of how/where you buy it. Take an expert with you, and don't buy a car on your own. the salesman normally see wimmen as 'easy meat'. Not that I'm suggesting you are my little cherub. cloud9:

Of course you have always got the 'banger option'

Couple of hundred quid for a 10 year old Fiesta with a bit of tax and MOT, and if it breaks down or fails the next MOT, you simply weigh it in at the local scrappie, and probably get 50 snotters too! Lafin! lol: Just make sure you've got breakdown cover though, as you'll probably need it at some time during ownership.

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« Reply #179 on: October 10, 2007, 09:35:21 AM »
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Of course you have always got the 'banger option'

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