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Kyle Rittenhouse
« on: November 19, 2021, 06:22:59 PM »
Just watched the verdict come in, not guilty on all counts. While I'm glad a clear case of self defence held true, especially given the stunts the prosecution pulled, I'm dreading the reaction from Antifa, rent-a-mob & co.
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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse
« Reply #1 on: November 19, 2021, 06:29:08 PM »
Begs to differ: he is a murdering little cunt
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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse
« Reply #2 on: November 19, 2021, 06:58:46 PM »
Just watched the verdict come in, not guilty on all counts. While I'm glad a clear case of self defence held true, especially given the stunts the prosecution pulled, I'm dreading the reaction from Antifa, rent-a-mob & co.

Wonderful news! But like you say, it will all kick off now...  noooo:
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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse
« Reply #3 on: November 19, 2021, 07:06:34 PM »
Begs to differ: he is a murdering little cunt

Murder implies intent, the evidence shows that Rittenhouse tried to remove himself from the situation and deescalate things before being forced to defend himself after being hit over the head with a skateboard, narrowly avoiding someone else trying to flying kick him in the head and having someone pull a gun on him.

Rittenhouse volunteered to help out in a town that he had family and worked in, his three attackers were trying to push a burning dumpster into a petrol station.

His three attackers were all convicted criminals. Grosskreutz was in breach of his parole terms when he went to the kenosha riot carrying an illegal handgun over state lines. Kyle was providing first aid to anyone that needed it and had already been thanked by the local police for helping.

The prosecution was almost in breach of the constitution by attacking Rittenhouse's right to silence, withheld evidence (the name of flying kick guy) and handed over a lower quality copy of the drone footage under a different file name (I'm sure it was pure coincidence that AD Bingers laptop had Handbrake and Format Factory installed).
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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse
« Reply #4 on: November 19, 2021, 09:24:00 PM »
Begs to differ: he is a murdering little cunt
Certainly arguably lucky.  Under UK law he'd be serving life now.
 
But the jury has spoken so hopefully he uses this experience wisely and goes on to have a decent life and never touches an assault rifle again. 

Seeing as how all his victims were white I'm less than convinced there'll be race riots. The risk was more if he'd been found guilty
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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse
« Reply #5 on: November 20, 2021, 02:27:33 AM »
Steve, the problem is that there are plenty on the left including Biden himself who either strongly hinted or outright claimed that Rittenhouse was a white supremacist because it suited their narrative and is easier to deal with than the actual truth. Rittenhouse should not have been there because he shouldn't have NEEDED to be in Kenosha that night. The local, state and federal governments failed in their duty to keep the peace which led to him being one of many who thought they had no choice but to step up.



This has led to there being a significant number of people who haven't realised that Rittenhouse defended himself against 3 white men on top of those who just don't care and want to burn and loot.
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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse
« Reply #6 on: November 20, 2021, 06:22:10 AM »

Certainly arguably lucky.  Under UK law he'd be serving life now.


Well yes, it would not have been possible for him to have the gun in the UK. Sadly.
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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse
« Reply #7 on: November 20, 2021, 09:20:34 AM »
Everyone is going to put their own spin on it to suit their own agendas so will we as mere media consumers be able to know? The jury, I assume, received a more balanced view of exactly what happened so I have to trust them to make a more informed decision.

It will, however, all kick off now   noooo:

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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse
« Reply #8 on: November 20, 2021, 09:27:45 AM »

Certainly arguably lucky.  Under UK law he'd be serving life now.


Well yes, it would not have been possible for him to have the gun in the UK. Sadly.
No, seems under Wisconsin law it's legal to provoke an altercation, make people think you might shoot them and then kill anyone that seeks to disarm you. 
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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse
« Reply #9 on: November 20, 2021, 01:33:55 PM »

Certainly arguably lucky.  Under UK law he'd be serving life now.


Well yes, it would not have been possible for him to have the gun in the UK. Sadly.
No, seems under Wisconsin law it's legal to provoke an altercation, make people think you might shoot them and then kill anyone that seeks to disarm you.

No it isn't... ::)

It is legal to confront a rioting, looting and burning mob...
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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse
« Reply #10 on: November 20, 2021, 09:40:40 PM »
You should read up on the case and Wisconsin law, just avoid the more nutter sites
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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse
« Reply #11 on: November 20, 2021, 10:07:16 PM »
Not a bad read objectively looking at why the not guilty verdict arose
 
https://edition.cnn.com/2021/11/19/us/legal-experts-what-helped-rittenhouse-acquittal/index.html
 
' state law meant the burden fell on prosecutors to disprove Rittenhouse was acting in self-defense beyond a reasonable doubt.'
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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse
« Reply #12 on: November 21, 2021, 06:24:22 AM »
It does miss out a number key facts.

1. That Grosskreutz is in the process of suing the state for $10m, something that would have been made far easier with a guilty verdict.

2. That after is was established that the prosecution had provided the defence with a lower quality, cropped version of the drone footage in a strange resolution with the broadcaster logo removed AD Bingler was caught with shortcuts to Format Factory and Handbrake on his laptop despite claiming he had no idea how it could have happened and even tried to say it was probably something to do with airdropping the file to an android phone.

3. There were multiple attempts to either photograph or identify the jury members, including by a freelancer in the employ of MSNBC. Something that was commented on as being a good thing by the cousin of George Floyd.

4. A large section of the mainstream media, including CNN, went out of it's way to label Rittenhouse as a white supremacist who carried an assault rifle across state lines deliberately looking for a fight when none of it was true. The main basis for the white supremacist claim was a photograph taken with members of the Oathkeepers and some comments he is supposed to have made that have been taken out of context. Now using those standards then Biden is also a white supremacist for having multiple photographs taken of himself with his good friend Robert Byrd who was a senior member of the Klu Klux Klan, not to mention that Biden made plenty of statements over the years that can easily be argued as being racist.

5. Rittenhouse didn't take an assault rifle across state lines, he was provided with a common SEMI AUTOMATIC rifle and not one with selective fire. Also the AR in AR-15 stands for Armalite Rifle, the original manufacturer of that style and not assault rifle as is claimed by ignorant or dishonest portions of the media.

6. That it was in fact Grosskreutz who actually carried an illegal weapon across state lines as because he was out on parole his right to carry a firearm was revoked and he could only go to a different state under specific circumstances which doesn't include joining a riot.

And speaking of the rifle AD Binger needs to be charged with reckless endangerment for picking up the rifle in the courtroom and without checking to see if the chamber was clear, pointing it at the jury with his finger on the trigger. Especially coming on the back of the whole Alec Baldwin Rust set tragedy.

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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse
« Reply #13 on: November 21, 2021, 06:32:10 AM »
You should read up on the case and Wisconsin law, just avoid the more nutter sites

Nutter sites like the British press...?  rubschin:



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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse
« Reply #14 on: November 21, 2021, 09:25:35 AM »
You should read up on the case and Wisconsin law, just avoid the more nutter sites

Nutter sites like the British press...?  rubschin:




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