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Climate Change and Energy Dependency
« on: March 13, 2022, 12:34:45 PM »
It would be impossible to overstate what a complete clusterfuck everything in my opinion...  evil:

Years of climate change lunacy has left the West impotent and dependent on Russian energy - whatever you consider the cause of the conflict to be, the West can do little about it because of the risk of being cut off from its energy supplies...

...in the meanwhile we seem completely focussed on diversity and insisting that men with dicks are women...  noooo:

It can't end well at all and I have serious fears for the future world my grandchildren will grow up in.

How the fuck did we get here, I find it utterly depressing...  Banghead
Surely 'climate change lunacy' led to reduced not more demand for gas and oil?
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Re: Climate Change and Energy Dependency
« Reply #1 on: March 13, 2022, 01:40:18 PM »
Surely 'climate change lunacy' led to reduced not more demand for gas and oil?

Hardly... Has consumption fallen...?

We now use vast amounts of energy making windy-millers and solar panels which are unreliable and need to be backed up with dispatchable energy sources which are less efficient as they are not running at their optimum performance...

But more importantly, we've walked away from our own energy resources as it is somehow 'greener' to import gas, coal and oil from abroad than using the resources right under our feet... And now that forrin energy is quite likely to be cut off.... facepalm:

All due to climate change lunacy and politicians listening to schoolgirls... ::)

The West has invested vast amounts of taxpayer's hard earned cash on renewables yet here we are facing unprecedented increases in energy costs when it really should be in plentiful (and cheap) supply...

And that idiot leader of the opposition wants a 'windfall tax' on energy companies...  noooo:

Utter lunacy...
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Re: Climate Change and Energy Dependency
« Reply #2 on: March 13, 2022, 03:20:49 PM »
Surely 'climate change lunacy' led to reduced not more demand for gas and oil?

Hardly... Has consumption fallen...? . .
Yes  https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1020154/2020_consumption_tables_-_web_copy.xlsx   (Table C1 column BE)
 
Our growing 'like' of Russian gas came from the increasing cost and reducing supply of North Sea gas which peaked over 20 years ago https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1021959/ET_3.10_SEP_21.xlsx
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Re: Climate Change and Energy Dependency
« Reply #3 on: March 13, 2022, 03:38:25 PM »
Surely 'climate change lunacy' led to reduced not more demand for gas and oil?

Hardly... Has consumption fallen...? . .
Yes  https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1020154/2020_consumption_tables_-_web_copy.xlsx   (Table C1 column BE)
 
Our growing 'like' of Russian gas came from the increasing cost and reducing supply of North Sea gas which peaked over 20 years ago https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1021959/ET_3.10_SEP_21.xlsx


*sigh* ::)

Exporting our manufacturing to elsewhere may indeed have reduced consumption in the UK but overall consumption has increased...





And will continue to increase...



As for Russian gas, we have chosen to import from abroad rather than exploiting the resources under our feet (because of green lunacy)... You've heard of the Shale Gas revolution in the 'States I assume...?
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Re: Climate Change and Energy Dependency
« Reply #4 on: March 13, 2022, 08:12:58 PM »
And what would the graph look like if multiple countries hadn't taken climate change action?

Higher obviously, no one thinks we just take all that windmill power to boil the oceans etc

IE rightly or wrongly climate change action has reduced consumption from what it would have been
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Re: Climate Change and Energy Dependency
« Reply #5 on: March 13, 2022, 08:43:22 PM »
And what would the graph look like if multiple countries hadn't taken climate change action?

Higher obviously, no one thinks we just take all that windmill power to boil the oceans etc

IE rightly or wrongly climate change action has reduced consumption from what it would have been

 lol: lol: lol:

Which countries exactly...? The ones like the UK spending £££££££££££££££s who produce just 1% of World CO2 output or countries like China that we have outsourced our manufacturing to, who produce 30% and are burning coal as fast as they can...? Or Germany, that shut down nuclear, relied on Russian gas and is now burning coal as fast as it can...?

The whole thing is a complete farce...

You just have to look at the 'green' policy of cutting down trees in 'merica, chipping and drying them, shipping them across the Atlantic, driving them to Drax and burning them in preference to locally produced coal to see how ridiculous the whole thing is! Surely?

Where do you think all the energy comes from to make the concrete and steel to create the renewables that make such a tiny dent in the world energy graph I posted earlier...? It ain't solar at night or unreliable wind that is for sure...

And what has been the effect of all the investment in renewables, all the COP conferences (and private jets  lol:) and the 25% of your energy bill that goes to subsidise renewables...?

Global CO2 Emissions Rebounded to Their Highest Level in History in 2021

Absolutely nothing gained... ::)

And the graph would be pretty much the same to answer your question directly but we'd all be richer...  Or less poor, depending on how you view your glass...  ;)

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Re: Climate Change and Energy Dependency
« Reply #6 on: March 13, 2022, 10:54:30 PM »
Is that red mist I see?
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