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Let him drown - we aren't trained
« on: September 21, 2007, 12:53:19 PM »
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/manchester/7006412.stm

I heard this on the radio earlier. It beggars belief. The poloce are defending them!

I wonder if the passers by who jumped in to try to rescue the TWO drowning children had been "trained"?
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Re: Let him drown - we aren't trained
« Reply #1 on: September 21, 2007, 01:04:29 PM »
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/manchester/7006412.stm

I heard this on the radio earlier. It beggars belief. The poloce are defending them!

I wonder if the passers by who jumped in to try to rescue the TWO drowning children had been "trained"?

 censored: That just beggars belief. 

I was taught basic life saving in school and took a full course in my twenties, I guess I should do a refresher like my First Aid.
You sometimes are not thanked though, once, when I was about 17 and a tiny wisp of a thing, I hauled a very large, fully grown, unconscious, male out of the sea. He was a fair way out and it was after the lifeguards had gone home, early evening I went for a swim after work. The beach was quiet, but when I got him back into the surf a few people came along and took him off me and got us both out. They took him by ambulance to the hospital, and when I called the following day to see how he was, I was told he was displeased with me as he had been trying to kill himself.  noooo: So, no thank you there then.....

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Re: Let him drown - we aren't trained
« Reply #2 on: September 21, 2007, 01:05:54 PM »
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Re: Let him drown - we aren't trained
« Reply #3 on: September 21, 2007, 01:36:20 PM »
Plastic Policing on the cheap ..... just about sums up 10 years of Nu Labour.

As for the PCSO's involved .... out and out cowards. You do not let a child drown just to keep your pretty uniform dry you b@st@rds. Whether you could swim or not one of you could have tried to save the child. Not just stand there and talk into your bloody radio asking for instructions.
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Re: Let him drown - we aren't trained
« Reply #4 on: September 22, 2007, 10:19:35 AM »
The quality od fPSCO's depends on the force deploying them. Devon and Cornwall seem to be using them as part of the vetting process to become a full police officer. If its done that way then its a good idea, the potential officers get basic training and a degree of experience before a training place is freed up for them. 

One thing I have found curious about this, is that according to the coverage I've seen the parents, or at the very least an adult wasn't keeping half an eye on them. Given that the girl was only 8 I would have though someone would have been there watching just to be on the safe side.
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« Reply #5 on: September 22, 2007, 10:34:22 AM »
The quality od fPSCO's depends on the force deploying them. Devon and Cornwall seem to be using them as part of the vetting process to become a full police officer. If its done that way then its a good idea, the potential officers get basic training and a degree of experience before a training place is freed up for them. 


That is what they do here, you have to do a year as a PCO to be taken in to the local force.  It does weed out those who just cannot hack it.

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Re: Let him drown - we aren't trained
« Reply #6 on: September 22, 2007, 10:41:29 AM »
The PCSO?s may be useless but it sounds to me as though this story has been blown out of all proportion by a hysterical media.

If he was already under the water by the time they got there as has been reported there would have been little point going to search for him unless his exact location was known ? it is a large lake by the looks of things, not a village duck pond.

The real question is why the two kids were there unsupervised in the first place.
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Re: Let him drown - we aren't trained
« Reply #7 on: September 22, 2007, 01:07:51 PM »
The PCSO?s may be useless but it sounds to me as though this story has been blown out of all proportion by a hysterical media.

If he was already under the water by the time they got there as has been reported there would have been little point going to search for him unless his exact location was known ? it is a large lake by the looks of things, not a village duck pond.

The real question is why the two kids were there unsupervised in the first place.


ditto every word