UK 'exporting emissions' to China

[Barman]

You don't say???

The UK's increasing dependence on Chinese goods is contributing to a rise in carbon emissions, a report suggests.

The New Economic Foundation (Nef) says such reliance is adding to CO2 levels because China's factories produce more CO2 per item than British ones.

Source

So banning ‘normal’ light bulbs and buying ‘low energy’ bulbs that are produced in energy gobbling and polluting factories in China and shipped to Europe in ships burning the most polluting fuels might not be the panacea we were promised then?

Well I’m buggered! 

[chuntering again]

Are ordinary bulbs made round the corner in the UK? 

[Barman]

Are ordinary bulbs made round the corner in the UK? 

Thorn EMI used to have a HUGE factory in Wales... 

[Snoopy]

Are ordinary bulbs made round the corner in the UK? 

Thorn EMI used to have a HUGE factory in Wales... 

And you don't get much more round the corner than that.

[Barman]

Are ordinary bulbs made round the corner in the UK? 

Thorn EMI used to have a HUGE factory in Wales... 

And you don't get much more round the corner than that.

Well, not if you live in Wales... Osram was it? 

[Snoopy]

Are ordinary bulbs made round the corner in the UK? 

Thorn EMI used to have a HUGE factory in Wales... 

And you don't get much more round the corner than that.

Well, not if you live in Wales... Osram was it? 

TBH I don't know BUT I expect that most companies put the manufacturing out to the cheapest possible source and nowadays merely distribute.

[grumpyoldsoldier]

You cant beat the the gas mantle me dearies.....

[Nick]

What's wrong with candles? Ask the "ladies"

[grumpyoldsoldier]

Behave!!!!!

[Barman]

Are ordinary bulbs made round the corner in the UK? 

Thorn EMI used to have a HUGE factory in Wales... 

And you don't get much more round the corner than that.

Well, not if you live in Wales... Osram was it? 

TBH I don't know BUT I expect that most companies put the manufacturing out to the cheapest possible source and nowadays merely distribute.

The sad thing is that this has become government policy to keep inflation down!

I can’t remember which of the numpties was being interviewed on the wireless the other day but he said that increasing the amount of our manufactured goods that were produced in the far east would keep inflation low…

Yes, that’s fucking brilliant that is but how will the UK pay for all these low-cost goods once the credit has run out and the gold reserves used up? 

[chuntering again]

So to surmise, the government pursues policies that actively encourage the destruction of the environment then pisses and moans at consumer not to drive his car, take foreign holidays or buy food in packaging. Consumer tells government to shove it up his arse. Understandable.

[Snoopy]

Yup! So vote the buggers out as soon as they give you the chance.

[chuntering again]

Yup! So vote the buggers out as soon as they give you the chance.

I would love to Snoops, but I have a problem with the alternatives. I fear for the liberty of the country under another 5 years of New Labour, but I can't bring myself to elect the little Englanders, while Ming has done a sterling job in making the Lib Dems completely irrelevant.

[Bar Wench]

Yup! So vote the buggers out as soon as they give you the chance.

I would love to Snoops, but I have a problem with the alternatives. I fear for the liberty of the country under another 5 years of New Labour, but I can't bring myself to elect the little Englanders, while Ming has done a sterling job in making the Lib Dems completely irrelevant.

And there in lies the problem. Mr Wench has had enough of New Labour too but won't vote for the only possible alternative out of principle. Regardless of the fact that he might actually agree with them. 

[chuntering again]

Yup! So vote the buggers out as soon as they give you the chance.

I would love to Snoops, but I have a problem with the alternatives. I fear for the liberty of the country under another 5 years of New Labour, but I can't bring myself to elect the little Englanders, while Ming has done a sterling job in making the Lib Dems completely irrelevant.

And there in lies the problem. Mr Wench has had enough of New Labour too but won't vote for the only possible alternative out of principle. Regardless of the fact that he might actually agree with them. 

It's not just principle in my case, it's trust as well. I don't trust them not to reverse the economic recovery of the regions, and look after their core voters in the home counties. I would need to be convinced that Mr Cameron intended to govern for the wellbeing of County Durham as well as West Oxfordshire. On the other hand, give New Labour another 5 years and we will have ID cards and laws on how to wipe your arse.