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Offline Uncle Mort

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Meeting Postponed
« on: October 15, 2007, 10:21:40 AM »
Had a meeting scheduled this morning with our account manger from DHL. One of the items to discuss is late deliveries. He's just phoned to say that he's running very late and can't make the meeting today.  noooo:  

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Re: Meeting Postponed
« Reply #1 on: October 15, 2007, 10:26:06 AM »
Take your business elsewhere?
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Re: Meeting Postponed
« Reply #2 on: October 15, 2007, 10:27:30 AM »
Take your business elsewhere?

I hear that the Royal Mail is held in high esteem in some parts.
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Re: Meeting Postponed
« Reply #3 on: October 15, 2007, 10:31:04 AM »
The Liverpool lot are still on strike. Surprising, innit?
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Re: Meeting Postponed
« Reply #4 on: October 15, 2007, 10:32:01 AM »
Take your business elsewhere?

I hear that the Royal Mail is held in high esteem in some parts.


ROYAL MAIL !!!!   noooo: noooo: noooo: noooo: noooo: noooo:

DHL used to be faultless. Now I'm not so sure. I shall use the threat of taking my business elsewhere as a incentive for them to 'pull their socks up' .

(that is when I get to see him)

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Re: Meeting Postponed
« Reply #5 on: October 15, 2007, 10:35:54 AM »
The Liverpool lot are still on strike. Surprising, innit?

I am told (by a postmans wife) that the Liverpool and glasgow lot are the most militant in the country.  noooo:
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Re: Meeting Postponed
« Reply #6 on: October 15, 2007, 11:06:20 AM »
The Liverpool lot are still on strike. Surprising, innit?

I am told (by a postmans wife) that the Liverpool and glasgow lot are the most militant in the country.  noooo:

I wonder if there's a correlation between militancy and Irish-descended left footerism?  ;)

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Re: Meeting Postponed
« Reply #7 on: October 15, 2007, 11:06:43 AM »
As someone who worked for the PO Union back in the seventies I can assure you that your informant is almost right but add in Mount Pleasant (London). Union and PO more or less forced many of the trouble makers at MP to transfer to Milton Keynes which then became a hot spot for "wild-cat" action but they have probably all retired now.
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Re: Meeting Postponed
« Reply #8 on: October 15, 2007, 01:53:00 PM »
And, when the bastards do go back CAN THEY PLEASE stop dropping RED RUBBER BANDS all over the pavements. The glorious hues of the fallen autumnal leaves are ruined by sporadic outbreaks of the damn things.

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Re: Meeting Postponed
« Reply #9 on: October 15, 2007, 02:01:40 PM »
Well, there is no continued strike today. Apparently the negotiations were satisfactory. Instead of starting at five they start at 6am.

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Re: Meeting Postponed
« Reply #10 on: October 15, 2007, 02:03:24 PM »
I still haven't had stuff that was sent first class on Wednesday. Tossers.

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Re: Meeting Postponed
« Reply #11 on: October 15, 2007, 04:10:21 PM »
And, when the bastards do go back CAN THEY PLEASE stop dropping RED RUBBER BANDS all over the pavements. The glorious hues of the fallen autumnal leaves are ruined by sporadic outbreaks of the damn things.

Wet leaves on the road when m-biking is bad enough, add to that RED RUBBER BANDS and it's a death trap  surrender:

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Re: Meeting Postponed
« Reply #12 on: October 16, 2007, 04:40:37 PM »
Well, there is no continued strike today. Apparently the negotiations were satisfactory. Instead of starting at five they start at 6am.

Great!  So now my post will be delivered even later then?!  Before the strike, I was lucky if my post turned up before midday.  What happened to the afternoon delivery?!  Evidently they've deicded to roll the morning and afternoon deliveries into one and not bother turning up in the morning then.   Angry9:

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Re: Meeting Postponed
« Reply #13 on: October 16, 2007, 05:01:00 PM »
A brief explanation. In the days of two postal deliveries a day the Postmen used to start between 5 and 6.30 am. They would sort their round and leave the office at 7am to make the first delivery. Much depended on the type of housing (Flats houses or whatever) but on average the postie would walk between 4 and 5 miles with his delivery. I leave out of this the inner city business deliveries which were treated differently. He would return to the office at about 10.00 to 10.30 and would then either sort a second delivery or would be on general sorting duties. The second deliveries normally combined two first delivery walks into one thus saving on the number of posties involved, leaving the surplus free to sort the incoming mail. The second delivery personnel would then make their rounds walking a further 8 to 10 miles (I know 'cos I've done it many times wearing a pedometer). No postie was ever allowed to carry more than 35 lbs weight (to avoid back injuries) and what didn't fit into one bag did not get taken except in very exceptional circumstances.
To improve productivity (ie reduce staff costs) the Royal Mail brought in single deliveries last year, something that had previously only applied to rural routes. To achieve this they said that the posties should have two or even three bags of mail to deliver and should spend longer in the office to (i) sort this extra load and (ii) to catch stuff that was arriving in the office off the first deliveries coming in from other offices. ie stuff that had been sorted overnight at the other end of the country and had previously been what was delivered on the second delivery.
The posties did not and do not like this method as they feel that it has taken away a unique and essential part of the "service" they offered. The "new start times" have nothing to do with the posties who don't like them either as they see them as all part of the giant con that is "privatisation".
Another myth that I can explode is that of "competition" The competitors will happily collect the mail from major posters (for a fee). They then sort it and take it to the nearest major town to its destination. they then hand it over to the Royal Mail for final delivery. This is what is known as the "final mile" which none of the privateers want to do as it is labour intensive and expensive. No privateer is prepared or even able to set up a post box network (think of the planning consents they would have to obtain for a start) and they certainly do not want to have to employ people to deliver a 37p letter from Brighton to John O Groats. Only the Royal Mail can do that and only the Royal Mail has a legal obligation to provide a "universal service"
I am on the side of the posties 'cos I have done the job. Sure there are "Spanish Practices" and some overtime is "negotiated" but all in all you have to admit that before the Government stuck its nose in the system worked. It no longer does.
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Re: Meeting Postponed
« Reply #14 on: October 16, 2007, 05:23:04 PM »
Also when they brought in the single delivery, posties were concerned at either reduced wages (working less hours) or redundancies, they were promised no redundancies and no pay reductions which brought in job and knock (or spanish practices) for the same wage.

Yet another half arsed fvck about by our government who only give out half a story to the media.


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