Returing to topic I see today that the Women's Institute is putting its not inconsiderable lobbying weight behind a campaign to bring back "Asylums" for the mentally illl. They say "Don't build new prisons, build new secure asylums and transfer the mentally ill from prison to where they may get help" I have to say they are right. Look at the figures ~ Prison is now the default option for those with uncontrolled mental problems and that is wrong. The WI solution would, of course, solve the prison over-crowding issue as well.