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Heathrow Aircrash Speculation
« on: January 18, 2008, 07:23:23 AM »
All the media are having a bash at this, finding 'experts' to speculate on the cause so we should too... Place your bets (and your theories) below.

I'm guessing that there won't be a strong smell of aviation fuel at the crash site...  whistle:
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Re: Heathrow Aircrash Speculation
« Reply #1 on: January 18, 2008, 08:06:31 AM »
I think it was a plane, landing short on the runway, after losing power...

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Re: Heathrow Aircrash Speculation
« Reply #2 on: January 18, 2008, 08:13:01 AM »
Radio 5:

"They've got to look at the 'flight data recorder', the black box to you and me".

Er what is it about the term flight data recorder that is so difficult to understand and what informatio does black box give us?



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Re: Heathrow Aircrash Speculation
« Reply #3 on: January 18, 2008, 08:21:57 AM »
I think it was a plane, landing short on the runway, after losing power...
Can't fault your logic there...  noooo:
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Re: Heathrow Aircrash Speculation
« Reply #4 on: January 18, 2008, 08:23:41 AM »
Radio 5:

"They've got to look at the 'flight data recorder', the black box to you and me".

Er what is it about the term flight data recorder that is so difficult to understand and what informatio does black box give us?



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Typical dumbing-down – pisses me off too...

Why can't they just say flight data recorder and cockpit voice recorder – the bloody things aren't even black!  Banghead

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Re: Heathrow Aircrash Speculation
« Reply #5 on: January 18, 2008, 08:28:01 AM »
I think it was a plane, landing short on the runway, after losing power...
Can't fault your logic there...  noooo:

Case closed!

No need to youtube Black Box - Ride on Time (featuring Rozalla i think) it was gash!

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Re: Heathrow Aircrash Speculation
« Reply #6 on: January 18, 2008, 09:26:02 AM »

Was it a female driver ?
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Re: Heathrow Aircrash Speculation
« Reply #7 on: January 18, 2008, 09:29:54 AM »
 ::)

Apparently the plane narrowly missed Gordon Brown. Pity eveilgrin:
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Re: Heathrow Aircrash Speculation
« Reply #8 on: January 18, 2008, 09:32:37 AM »
Pilot left the handbrake on.
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Re: Heathrow Aircrash Speculation
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Re: Heathrow Aircrash Speculation
« Reply #10 on: January 18, 2008, 10:02:49 AM »

Was it a female driver ?

Just as well you asked that one Miss D, had it been one of the guys on here there would have been hell up  ;D

I suppose they could always use the old British Rail excuse, wrong kind of air on the airport.
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Re: Heathrow Aircrash Speculation
« Reply #11 on: January 18, 2008, 10:20:46 AM »
Well, having watched the aviation industry for a while now, I have to admit to having some reservations about modern planes.

I believe I'm right in saying that the Boeing 777 is a 'fly by wire' aircraft, in which case, the pilots have no direct control over anything. More a case of 'ask the computer nicely and it will do what you want'.

Now, how often have you guys had either a complete system freeze or a 'blue screen of death' (BSOD) occur?

Supposing, just for arguments sake, that this (or something similar) happened to the the flight system controlling the engines?

It is certainly unusual for both to quit at once! Bird strike would kill one - two at the same time is stretching it a bit. Same for fuel, I'd expect one to quit way before the other (same for mechanical issues).

I suspect the answer will lie in the 'fly by wire' stuff - some errant signal told both engines to cease operation thus rendering the aircraft a glider and, since the modern jet has all the gliding characteristics of a house brick, the result was inevitable.

Let's wait and see - though there may be an attempt at a cover-up if too much money is involved on the part of Boeing (think class action law suits).
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Re: Heathrow Aircrash Speculation
« Reply #12 on: January 18, 2008, 10:29:41 AM »
Well, having watched the aviation industry for a while now, I have to admit to having some reservations about modern planes.

I believe I'm right in saying that the Boeing 777 is a 'fly by wire' aircraft, in which case, the pilots have no direct control over anything. More a case of 'ask the computer nicely and it will do what you want'.

Now, how often have you guys had either a complete system freeze or a 'blue screen of death' (BSOD) occur?

Supposing, just for arguments sake, that this (or something similar) happened to the the flight system controlling the engines?

It is certainly unusual for both to quit at once! Bird strike would kill one - two at the same time is stretching it a bit. Same for fuel, I'd expect one to quit way before the other (same for mechanical issues).

I suspect the answer will lie in the 'fly by wire' stuff - some errant signal told both engines to cease operation thus rendering the aircraft a glider and, since the modern jet has all the gliding characteristics of a house brick, the result was inevitable.

Let's wait and see - though there may be an attempt at a cover-up if too much money is involved on the part of Boeing (think class action law suits).
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Re: Heathrow Aircrash Speculation
« Reply #13 on: January 18, 2008, 10:33:14 AM »
Are you saying that Microsoft provide the software for airlines BM?  eeek: eeek: eeek: eeek: eeek: eeek:

Well I suppose in that case the Blue Screen of Death would be appropriate.  noooo:





That settles it, not only am I never flying again I'm going to find somewhere far away from commercial air routes to move to.  scared:
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Re: Heathrow Aircrash Speculation
« Reply #14 on: January 18, 2008, 10:34:06 AM »
Pilot error. Heroes at the moment but you wait and see. I can visualise it:

Co-Pilot: Are we there yet?
Pilot: Dunno
Co-Pilot: Are we there yet?
Pilot: Dunno
Co-Pilot: You fancy a pint when we get down?
Pilot: Nah. I've had seven since Shanghai.
Co-pilot: Is that the London eye?
Pilot: Prolly. Gear down.
Co-pilot: Oooh look. A runway.
(sound of ignition key being turned and hand brake being appllied)
Co-pilot: Why does that dial thingy say 400ft?
Pilot: OH FU...!

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